SF doctors observe fentanyl side effect that causes people to be completely bent over after use

The use of fentanyl is going up and the medical community is trying to understand just what it does to the human body.
Things you may have witnessed are people so high, they just stand in the middle of the sidewalk bent over, appearing as if they were frozen in place.
abc7ne.ws/3QOvOIt
#sanfrancisco #tenderloin #fentanyl #sideeffects #ucsf #abc #abc7news

[@AA-le3xe]

Had to become a homeless addict in order to receive quality medical service - now that's a headliner.

[@lyssgoddess]

Works this way for veterans with housing lol I had to become homeless for them to even begin to help me. lol a list of veterans were on drugs.

[@cockyhemi-123]

He didn’t need medical attention until he was an addict.

[@cockyhemi-123]

@@marias2169 Ok. I stand corrected. But back issues don’t cause anyone to get hooked on fentanyl. I’ve had my share of ailments and didn’t find myself getting hooked on drugs.

[@ninapolley5363]

ain't that something! and here we are with health insurance getting a bill for a chest xray

[@dakmycat3688]

My mother in law just passed way. Doctors act like they couldn’t help her. Money talks I thought bullshit walked. No instead they’d rather help addicts who put them selves in that situation.

[@MiC-T]

The dope fiend lean. Ain't new.

[@Hippitidippity]

I know.. everybody seems to know this but these news people and nobody seems to want to bring up the fact that this crap is legally made and handed out by doctors like candy...

[@kennethjohnson4732]

This has been going on for decades now they act like it's something new.

[@j.7530]

True

[@judithmoore7892]

@@Hippitidippity. Doctors don’t prescribe fentanyl. It’s an anesthetic used in the OR to put patients to sleep.

[@4seaux]

Lol 😂right

[@mendesenzo6943]

Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety, alcoholism, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not, in a couple of years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.

[@PantawanMangkan]

To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

[@Mihkel-km9fw]

Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in Switzerland. Really need!

[@DeanSteven-qu8xk]

Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.

[@CisnerosVera]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@Mihkel-km9fw]

Is he on Instagram?

[@sheryldupre-mercier7607]

I’m a substance abuse nurse. Some of that is also probably xylazine in the fentanyl

[@cindyloucuster2188]

Exactly... Thank you for the work you do

[@Kyle-gs2sv]

No...not in sanfran...

[@rhondabailey9238]

My husband used the 12 step program to get away from addictions, but over the years...stays busy with healthier "addictions"...lawn care business, then weight lifting...now he's restoring an old Stingray...been living happy and full of life🩵👍

[@conniepitts8392]

That's what I thought it was the xylazine that made people this way.

[@lilykilfoy856]

It's there now. ​@@Kyle-gs2sv

[@l.q.1253]

Thank you for including a success story of someone that got off of drugs.

[@victormusic01x]

..exactly, there is always a way to get clean..thank you for your comment

[@chriscohlmeyer4735]

So many of us started to relieve pain, be it physical or mental pain from injury or abuse. Typically to get clean we need a desire to do the hard work along with support and love. Being forced to abstain too often results in us rebounding to even heavier use. The example guy got his pain relieved which basically negated his prime motivation to use. Personally all I could see in my future was prison or a mental hospital, I chose a third option of a friends family who took me in back in the day when drug detox programs were very rare.

[@robrob7011]

One in a million

[@whoknowswhocares885]

@@victormusic01x People who get clean never stay clean

[@davidwright873]

How did he go from being on the streets, an addict to hiking across Spain? that's quite a leap....Where'd the money come from? odd....

[@detch01]

Happy for the man who recovered from a fentanyl addiction - that is quite a feat. I hope he keeps his life on track and wish his success and happiness.

[@Nilessterner]

Seriously thats like 10% of people.

[@stenstensson2086]

What's sad is it will never go away fully. recovered addicts are always potentially just a crisis away from going back to square one.

[@m.htruth8880]

​@@keithbronson9777You don't want ppl to get better because you want ppl doing "worse" that you can look at to feel better abt yourself. Ppl never compare their selves to ppl doing better than them.

[@MossyMozart]

@@keithbronson9777 - No. But it does take work and support from people around you.

[@thesjkexperience]

Congrats 🎉🎉🎉. That is a strong man! I got off OxyContin prescribed to me, but I didn’t want to live like a junky. Could not go to the bathroom, etc. 7 years ago was run over by 6,000 pound f150 so now I’m on a small amount of opioid, but I never crave more as I can’t feel it. No pain, no desire for more is perfect.

[@major_kukri2430]

Are we not gonna talk about the fact that chronic pain is what drove that guy to Fentanyl addiction?

[@cindyloucuster2188]

Did me too 😪

[@gaterunner64]

@@cindyloucuster2188 No and that's because it goes against the ridiculous agenda that is running through this thread. I guarantee that a large percentage of people bitching about the" free first class health care" this guy received, are the same people who resisted the Affordable Health Care Act . Same crowd that resisted get a COVID flu shot.. masks in public.. etc

[@ed1658]

How would you know unless….. they talked about it and showed graphics and everything.

[@namijnebruhtra7683]

I was under the impression that this was an effect from the drug being cut with tranquilizer

[@major_kukri2430]

@@namijnebruhtra7683 fentanyl itself is already used in surgery for pain.

[@eshatbereitsbegonnen7313]

Thanks for shining a compassionate light on this matter.

[@nowistime8070]

congrats to the dude who got clean!! You are awesome

[@ohsweetmystery]

Just stopped being a narcissist.

[@KonaLife]

@@ohsweetmysterywtf does that mean? Heartless POS.

[@IAm-NotHear]

@@ohsweetmystery Congratulations. How long were you a narcissist?

[@MisterUnknown707]

​@@ohsweetmysteryWhat are you on about?

[@jakestone954]

Well it was get clean or become a stat

[@davidtrotman5990]

The thing that is most unusual is why people don't fall down. They stay on their feet but bent over to such a degree that most people would lose their balance.

[@petergriffin383]

They're expert gymnasts

[@ChiquitaMia-ci2vg]

@@petergriffin383😂

[@snotrocketeer5523]

I saw a guy on BART doing this and was so sure he would fall when the train accelerated or braked, but he stayed up the whole time from Coliseum to Union City.

[@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain]

The comedian David Cross had a hilarious bit on exactly what you're talking about! It was on one of his early albums

[@Pugetwitch]

​​​@@snotrocketeer5523it's because they're conscious. They're nodded out, they're in a dream like state. They're not asleep or unaware of what's happening around them. I used to think that they were! I would talk about them like they weren't even there, not realizing that they could hear everything and know what's going on around them😂 they like it when they get that far gone. That's the goal of their drug usage, to nod. Sad. I don't understand how they don't suffer strokes constantly from blood pooling.

[@Beetmonster]

Fascinating that the news made this into a story. One thing this story did not cover is that heavy opiate users frequently have severe nerve damage caused by nodding out for lengthy periods. If their body part (usually a limb) is restricted in a certain way, blood flow is cut off, sometimes for 6-12 hours. Humans naturally move all the time, even when asleep, and even if it's just micro-movements. It's enough to keep blood circulating properly. Someone who is essentially nodded out cold will not have those micro-movements. I've seen this most commonly in opiate users who also use benzos. I've seen faces turn black due to tissue death where people were out cold while face-down for too long. It's also a common contributor to the limp that so many street drug users have. Nerves are quick to die and very slow to recover.

[@jamesmurphy9426]

Interesting how suicide prevention is widespread yet we tolerate public widespread drug addiction

[@silvertone1]

I find it amusing all the no-smoking bullshit..we can't even smoke in bars/clubs anymore..but drugs in the playground that kill, no problem.

[@TheBigHeavyKevy]

It’s amazing how they can lean and wobble so much and not fall over.

[@rob-robi]

you mean like , weeble wobbles ?

[@lordraydens]

@@rob-robi fetty, fetty, f-f-f-fetty!

[@williewonka6694]

Don't worry, they do fall over.

[@cherylj7460]

That’s true! Couldn’t do that on alcohol!

[@AngieBaby666]

They do

[@nikitakucherov5028]

You can’t stand up, your legs swell like balloons, your back deteriorates (sounds like a wonderful time)

[@manitoumimi]

I’ve been suffering from bulging discs for 14 years with no promise of relief from my doctors, but this guy, god bless him, gets silicone pads to replace his bad discs? What do I have to do, become a fentanyl addict?

[@filthforce]

yes

[@marcellixxx]

Exactly 😠

[@justkeepswimming8892]

Kratom... look into it for chronic pain. If you want to feel better from a natural leaf trust me I wouldn't steer you wrong

[@justkeepswimming8892]

All the likes says I'm right...

[@justkeepswimming8892]

They have extracts and you may heed to try ut a few times and try a little higher dose each time to find the sweet spot. It helps my disks

[@B6east]

It makes my day to see that Mr. Campofreda has been able to turn his life around, & stays active and grateful !

[@universeconsciouscitizensc592]

My younger son is a fentanyl addict, was homeless, had decided he would never quit, finally got busted for something, and while in jail decided to go into rehab. He's doing it now. As much as I don't like to criminalize addiction, it seems these kind of addicts don't have much chance until they are forced into sobriety and have a chance to make a reasonable and sober decision.

[@lr6477]

Finally someone says it. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes that people think these guys are lucid enough to make their own choices. Tough love is needed, they'll thank us later that we took over!

[@garrymoore5571]

Hats off to the guy who got clean. 🙏 Keep up the good work. These videos keep me on my own recovery journey. 12yrs come July one day at a time. Its worth the effort to continue on no matter what. Praying for all who struggle.

[@Secondhandlegs]

I got 10 Years ❤️‍🩹 we can recover

[@Bella-zh1me]

Congratulations to you both. 👏

[@jlspindler]

It's easier to stay sober than to get sober.

[@kygal]

I’ve got 13 yrs clean off meth and almost 6 yrs off pain pills. It can be done. In my case I had to move down into a holler and cut all ties. Cutting ties with people I genuinely cared about was what hurt the most. It had to be done though. Now I have a beautiful granddaughter and good relationships with my family. No way I’d turn back now. I hope anyone suffering with addiction can get clean.

[@Secondhandlegs]

@@jlspindler that is the truth. I'm not sure I'd survive getting clean again.

[@ThePatchin]

My husband and I visited San Francisco last year, from NZ. It is the saddest city I have ever been in, and I’ve been in many cities around the world. Fentanyl is destroying families and communities everywhere.

[@LoisGram]

Philadelphia, PA is arguably worse.

[@whita-db9zw]

They why visit? SF has been like this for years

[@es9758]

The fentanyl that they are talking about is not FDA approved, but black market version of it from over seas.

[@MrMountain707]

Long term impacts? They won't live long enough to worry about that.

[@karencarpenter5845]

You be surprised.

[@MrMountain707]

well I hope not at least. They will never be productive members of society.@@karencarpenter5845

[@howlinwulf]

Dude the human body is just bad ass. I've seen people do meth for 30 years and although they look sick they keep going and high all day every day. Dude up the road works on everyone's mowers weed whackers and such is a tweaker from wy back People trust him knowing he's an addict,he does fine work and is a great guy as far as character goes he's just a meth head. I know it's not normal but it's how it is.

[@carpelunam]

@@howlinwulf go look up average age of death of someone who uses heroin or meth

[@kenofken9458]

@@howlinwulf Meth is horrible stuff no doubt. Unlike fentanyl though, a half milligram overdose won't kill them.

[@viviandibrell849]

Nice to see a survivor…my son overcame fentanyl 20 years ago, thank God, but has lost many friends to addiction.

[@johnle231]

Ooh thought fentanyl was a new drug

[@morbidmanmusic]

Don't thank god, thank the humans that helped him, or blame god for hooking him in the first place.

[@johnle231]

@@morbidmanmusic be hinest, admit your sins, seek Gods forgiveness. Don’t blame God for your actions

[@bbblahoo7]

Fent been around for many years was actually used in surgery's etc

[@migzz7976]

Had no idea it’s been around that long.

[@cottoncandie761]

The man who almost died of treating his pain from severe medical neglect, only to FINALLY receive the life changing care he needed all along fucking BROKE me. These insurance cartels are killing us, cannot imagine how anyone works under them and manages to sleep at night. America is Hell on Earth.

[@chasetonga]

Ooh, Insurance Cartel. Can I borrow that?

[@JustGoAndFly]

the capacity for delusion amongst the rich is limitless.. most are on the same drugs as the junkies but they're not stuck in the sidewalk getting garbage from creeps on the street, they get their prescriptions from the doctors.

[@robertslugg8361]

Why do you expect doctors to work for free?

[@Pulseczar1]

​@@robertslugg8361Cotton Candie didn't say they expected doctors to work for free. These are my words: the healthcare industry should not hold our health hostage from us, with the ransom they charge. Healthcare is an extremely lucrative business. The only people that make more money than doctors are very successful business owners, celebrities, and people that already have a lot of money that they are getting a lot of investment returns from. Doctors are paid too much. The result of that is that a lot of people become doctors just because they want the money and prestige, rather than because they actually want to help people. I've been to so many doctors that didn't care to help me figure out what was wrong with me. I had to figure things out on my own. I have all the respect and appreciation for emergency room doctors, that actually save people's lives, and for other doctors who are clearly there to help people and do their jobs, but it seems like many doctors are just there for a paycheck.

[@major_kukri2430]

@@robertslugg8361 My brother in Christ, Do you think doctors in nations with affordable healthcare work for free?

[@Cllthdmnlds]

Did it really take them four years to notice/address the fenty bend??????

[@anneb6755]

Same happens with people on high on Heroin. They lean at impossible angles without falling over.

[@MichaelDeFillippo8889]

I'm definitely not a doctor but I am a daily opioid user (Methadone) and although I no longer do fentanyl I have many times and in my experience I believe the answer is a much simpler one. When high on opioids you tend to start to pass out (nod) and that causes the body to bend forward like you've seen in this video. I know in my experience it can be hours, sometimes even a day or 2 bent over in that position and what happens is once you're body/back stays bent over in that position for an extended period of time it becomes very hard to return back to the normal upright position. Basically, the longer you stay bent over in that position, the harder it becomes to stand back upright. I believe it really is that simple... for me it was.

[@resplendentquetzal6536]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is what's at the bottom of this behavior/condition. People blaming it solely on xylazine are not seeing the whole picture (i.e. haven't done their due diligence in studying the relevant aspects of pharmacology and history of opioid abuse).

[@autumnwind2699]

So would you say that you are basically unconscious the entire time or only for a short time like a few minutes and the rest of the time you are aware but immobilized?

[@MichaelDeFillippo8889]

@@autumnwind2699 I can't speak on this new xylazine stuff (tranq) as I have not done it. Thankfully, I got clean before it was a thing but on Heroin/fentanyl I would usually do one big shot and then essentially be in and out of consciousness literally all day sometimes even a few days because I was also mixing with benzos (Xanax). So imagine being bent over in a standing position for 24 -48 hours and then try standing up straight.

[@Volundur9567]

The narcotic nod.

[@steveflinn6]

This is perhaps the best-made news article of the year. Keep up the good work!

[@MichaelSHartman]

A woman died from overdose three times. When asked if she wanted to quit, she said no, that she could handle it.

[@filthforce]

ive never met someone who told those "i had an overdose and died and came back/got brought back" stories that seemed believable. mostly just people who OD'ed and didnt die, which is a far more common occurrence than OD'ing and dying so often it's the nonsense they conditioned themselves to share at programs theyre forced to attend, the stuff they realized that if they just say it, theyre treated well and given backpats etc

[@elleboyle9452]

Former street addict is now flying to Europe and hiking in Spain while the rest of us are choosing between groceries and filling up the tank. 😂

[@lobstermash]

Walking the Camino is a religious pilgrimage, although a lot of tourists also do it. It might have been a pilgrimage for this man.

[@kathleenmartin7498]

And isn't that wonderful that this man now has his life together and can afford to travel to Europe!! It just shows how far a person can quickly cone in life when they try hard.

[@larryjanson4011]

today is the 20th of the month and i am broke. need $200.USD just to buy gas to go see my mom during the next couple of weeks. that is not even a tank and a half. only one tv dinner and a package of sausages in the freezer. less than a loaf of bread. couple cans of corn. not even milk for to use on the 1/2 box of dry cereal..

[@shaggydawg5419]

That's the part I don't understand. His hospital bills must be over $1 million. Who pays for it? He must be wealthy.

[@SoundofSilence492]

@@shaggydawg5419 Taxpayers who can’t afford gas probably did.

[@ygee3169]

Say no to drugs !

[@ChazinFl1]

Dumb comment Nancy!

[@HarrypAhsokaT1231]

Forget you

[@davemanone3661]

That's what Nancy Reagan said in 1980, we're still laughing !

[@TheGoodOne-bf6up]

B Idol "Rebel Yell" " In the midnight hour, she cried more, more, more With a rebel yell she cried more, more, more In the midnight hour babe more, more, more With a rebel yell more, more, more More, more, more!"

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

Say ‘Yes’ to the good ones though

[@user-ow3xu3go1g]

So many wonderful things to do in life, don't drug up like this and throw your life away.

[@hippiebits2071]

Bravo to the man who over came his addiction and refused to be a victim anymore.

[@dootdoot1867]

True treatment is a path to sobriety. Not clean supply.

[@theChickenstones]

I can't agree. Habituated people need to stay alive long enough to make that choice to accept 'true treatment'. Sadly results of addiction are the great motivator for change. Dead people don't have a choice, so lets help them stay alive. Drugs aren't addictive, people are. The stupid 'drug war' is lost. I speak as a 40+ year D/A Detox and Rehabilitation Registered Nurse and counselor.

[@dootdoot1867]

@@theChickenstones lol, you said habituated and choice in the same sentence. Logic cannot make that leap. Drug war would be fine if Purdue didn't write medical text books for schools on prescribing opiates. Enabling is not a path to sobriety as decades of AA and recovering addicts will tell you. Enabling is not the answer.

[@theChickenstones]

@@dootdoot1867 The 1st says: 'We admitted we were powerless'...., this implies choice. The 12th says: 'carry the message'...., not enforce it. Bill and Dr Bob knew what they were talking about. When Dr Bob was near death he said to Bill, "Don't screw this up Bill, it's a work in progress". It still is. Tell me where logic fits in? I don't blame Doctors, they can get it wrong too. p:s I'm not laughing, 'lol'.

[@dootdoot1867]

@@theChickenstones admitting you are powerless is admitting you have no choice. It happens regardless as you are powerless to stop it. Your premise is off. By basic logic.

[@theChickenstones]

@@dootdoot1867 No choice to keep using, stay sane and survive. One way or another we choose to or are forced to stop. Then the real work starts. 2nd: sought a pathway to willingness. 3rd: We decide to join in. These are all choices to be helped with. The disease is illogical but the ultimate responsibility for continuing change is mine as is my premise.🙏

[@sandilobianco6734]

Why isn’t this drug considered a bio weapon?

[@flyoverkid55]

Because fentanyl, and all the other opiates of abuse, create a permanent dependent class, which is the " raison d'etre " of the liberal elite.

[@vihtoripuurola3775]

Supported by democrats and the need to keep the southern border open.

[@VocalSpiritPresents]

It is a bioweapon.

[@Heikin-Ashi-Larry]

Because the cartels own our politicians and they’re all making a ton of money. Why you think they opened the border on day 1?

[@michaelangellotti4773]

Alcohol affects more people than opiods, it's not even close. No one should suffer in pain. Opiods are needed for those that suffer from chronic pain. Cancer patients, those that have Fibromyalgia, and other painful ailments.

[@flyingriders631]

It's amazing that they bend double but can still stand on their feet and some even walk.

[@dannydougin3925]

I will *never* understand addiction nor why anyone would willingly take drugs knowing they are bad for the body.

[@silvertone1]

Do you understand skydivers? Because I don't use fentanyl but it makes a lot more sense to me than jumping out of a plane for thrills.

[@vickilawrence7207]

I have used it for chronic pain and if you use a therapeutic amount it doesn’t affect you like that at all. You are as able to go about your life like anyone else. I didn’t stay on it bc the health insurance would only allow me so many days a week and the patches would wear off before I could put a new one on and that just wasn’t as effective as taking other medications by mouth. I’ve been on pain meds for decades and i don’t have any issues. They treat my pain from a multitude of issues with my spine and rheumatoid arthritis as well. I’ll always be on pain meds and I just thank God that they’re available to me

[@dmm6341]

Same

[@lauramata4244]

I kept sweating the patches off. About all the patches did was make me nauseous

[@Eclectic8]

Rx'd responsibly, they certainly have their place.

[@anntunaley9974]

My fentanyl wears off too quickly as well. But my palliative care Dr realizes that this happens to some people and lets me put a new patch on every two days instead of every three days so it works for me. But fentanyl alone isn’t enough for my pain, I have to take dilauded and tramadol with it along with muscle relaxers, etc.

[@AllenManor]

First time I ever saw this "lean" phenomenon was at a train station in Southern California in about 2013 I think. A guy in his early 60s, in entirely brand-new clothes, was waiting for a train. The fact that his clothes were all new suggested to me that he might have just been released from the court down the street. He would stand normally, then slowly start to lean over and teeter about. This happened over and over for about 5 minutes. When his train arrived, he was in full-lean mode and as he realized the train was about to close its doors, he "woke up" and lept into the train just as the doors closed -- leaving his backpack on the train platform. His hat also flew off his head. I'll never forget his panicked face as he looked out the window, fruitlessly tapping on the glass for the door to open, at his backpack on the ground as the train rolled away. Probably everything he owned was in that bag...

[@RoseRaines]

Or he shoplifted those new clothes or robbed someone for them.

[@soyoucametosee7860]

Probably had more fentanyl in that bag.

[@melissasmess2773]

Got to be tripping to forget your drugs. 😂 Interesting story, thanks!

[@godfirst9845]

Terribly tragic. This atrocity needs to stop

[@CasCasados]

This was very helpful for understanding what I'm seeing out in my community. Thank you for doing this story.

[@jeaninea5029]

We travelled to the northwest and saw these folded over people wandering everywhere. Very disturbing to see so many people like this.

[@davidwright873]

they do make great door stops.....you think?

[@RoseRaines]

Yup, it’s a sh*tshow out here in the PNW. I wish I could move.

[@icankillbugs204]

​@@RoseRainesthen do it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kittycat5420]

If you think it's bad here in the PNW, you should see Kensington in Philly. I've spent 3 months there. They use Tranq and fentanyl. I've never seen the human body contort as I have with people high on that. Saddest thing to see.

[@biancamichelle11]

Oh my goodness, it does sound like that would be very disturbing to see. I’ve never seen or heard of it! (I’m in Los Angeles)

[@greghefner5193]

I’m more fascinated by the fact they don’t fall over.

[@MNP208]

The human body has an amazing ability to heal.

[@HamBones13]

In law enforcement we call it the “heroin hang”

[@qigong1001]

Doctors in SF see this all the time and sometime administer specific meds to counteract this bending effect. Anesthesiologists see this with various opioids sometimes. The opioids affect the nerves that cause the abdomen and chest to contract. That’s why the guy interviewed says it hurts as he tried to get upright. We know it destroys the central nervous system already.

[@aprilm4423]

Thanks for that info; very interesting!!!🤯🤩

[@RobotNannyDiaries]

Wooden chest syndrome caused by fent Cuasing a tightening of muscles around the lungs Severely restricts breathing It looks absolutely horrible; Im told its horrendous. Has people ODing standing up too I think George Floyd had it by the way he was moving in the full video (before he stopped moving)

[@niaprice3267]

Try not thinking ​@@RobotNannyDiaries

[@DxModel219]

he’s hungry

[@judil3294]

Where do you get your knowledge about the central nervous system?

[@philosopher4279]

I call it the “fentanyl fold”

[@Bella-zh1me]

Great reporting. Amazing recovery story, wishing continued good health to him.

[@rgrifferon]

That’s like being dead while breathing.

[@7Little701]

It's not the Fentanyl making them bend over it's the horse tranq they cut it with. It also causes necrosis and those swollen legs of his will soon have open sores that don't respond to treatment.😢

[@allywolf9182]

Thank you! Mainstream media sucks sooo bad. No facts anymore

[@savvyheadyyy6641]

No it’s the fentanyl.. heroin does this to addicts to. They fall asleep

[@rudy_2299]

That’s what I thought. Fentanyl Floyd wasn’t bent over😂

[@TOMVUTHEPIMP]

So the drug addict who takes it is wrong? LOL

[@ThePhoenixcompanies]

​@@TOMVUTHEPIMP yep.

[@Mobus_]

Congrats to the guy who got clean. I know the addiction never leaves you. You dream about using still. It is a lifelong battle.

[@dianetan5790]

It’s smoked in adjacent apartments second hand meth smoke is in all apartments I can smell popcorn in the hallways of my apartments I can tell this is bad

[@cinnamoslut]

Not true for everyone. Plenty of people fully recover. In fact, a lot of people who struggled with addiction at a young age and recover young, end up sort of growing out of addiction. It happened for me. Got sober 12 years ago and I rarely think about it nowadays, and I never crave it anymore and haven't in years. I think it may be different if you are addicted for several decades though.

[@User0000000000000004]

So if we could just have long term clinics to treat fetty users, they'll be able to get clean. Makes you wonder why we aren't doing it.

[@retire14pattaya9]

I've seen this for decades with other drugs. Nothing new.

[@allenmccreary2359]

I am absolutely astonished that this is accepted by society (in SF at least). Will never understand

[@filthforce]

what do you mean "accepted," that it's not so extreme that we dont kill on site? i dont get what you;re failing to understand, it sounds like you view the world like a child might

[@whita-db9zw]

@@filthforce wtf did I just read?

[@nrauhauser]

I spent a summer in SoMa back in 2018, right across from the Tenderloin, and I don't recall seeing anyone in this condition. I moved to Sacramento at the start of 2024 and I encountered someone in this puzzling condition for the very first time late last night. I'm a big, clean cut guy, been sober since the mid-90s, I don't present like a drug seeker, but since I moved here not a week goes by that I don't get hit up on the street, usually by people looking to score. I am firmly in the camp that people don't stop until they're utterly beaten, but sometimes a "nudge from the judge" is what precipitates that. A mass roundup to a detox camp is a slippery slope, civil liberties wise, but we gotta do something about this.

[@lindadunlap4281]

God bless your sober existence. Sacramento can be a deadly place.

[@rebeccasteinke4357]

Putting people who don't want to get clean in detox doesn't do anything for anyone. That's why the success rates of drug court programs are abysmal 🙄

[@k.elysium6819]

You can't mass round people up like that. They have to want it. Nobody has ultimate authority over other people's lives. Good for you, you got clean. Not everyone is the same. Some people use it for chronic pain so bad that without it they want to die. This approach is not ok unless someone is stealing or dealing.

[@cherobinson6371]

82% of Fentanyl/ opiate addicts are working and housed people. It’s not a u use fentanyl your homeless and bent up. Most users in Fact the majority are 30-45 year old male construction workers

[@kinfolk127]

Who is letting in the drug ? That's where you start.

[@AuntieHannabis]

It’s called nodded out af. So happy for that guy that got off of it though. A miracle!

[@gobofraggel7383]

I tasted addiction 35 years ago when I was 21 years old and attending university. The moment the sensation washed over me I instantly knew I would never graduate, never have a family, never realize any of my dreams. I saw my life ending in the gutter and I was totally okay with that. All I wanted was more. Luckily a friend intervened that night and kept me too busy and too distracted for that entire summer to do any drugs. It was enough to save me. Sadly, he committed suicide 4 years ago. Addiction is a monster and as strong as you may believe you are, addiction is stronger. Just stay away from drugs and get your kicks other ways.

[@winningwithoutracing7811]

This is news.... I'll leave my apartment in Philly and walk past a keeled over zombie and they'll literally still be there three hours later after I've dropped off work, grabbed breakfast, and run a few other errands. They say its from an animal sedative that I believe starts with a Z and not the Fentanyl but who really knows. The only thing certain is that this misery is condoned, encouraged, and it strikes me as if they're being sacrificed as if in a satanic manner. The painkiller pills to dope pipeline is long gone and people are still succumbing to this hell. It makes no sense.

[@krishannknight8261]

It’s not in California yet….well now it is.

[@SubieMayhem]

xylazine

[@laurita28061]

Leave this place

[@SpicyMang0s]

As if in the satanic manner? Lol

[@infinidominion]

Xylazine starts with a "z" sound, it's coming from Chinese and Mexican entities. Watch Andrew Callahans Channel 5 doc

[@stoneybowmann]

This story went from asking the question, "why are fentanyl users bent over?" to "here is an uplifting story about a guy who used fentanyl that has a completely unrelated back injury that was healed through surgery." What?

[@alisons9740]

You too can go to Spain! 😂

[@melissamartinez3593]

Dammit lol

[@kenmore01]

Well, I guess there's only so much to be said after the guy stood up straight and said it hurts. They can, but it hurts.

[@garylefevers]

I thought they said that more research needs to be done but they believe it has something to do with veins collapsing as the result of the side effects of Fentanyl. Perhaps I do not understand what you are saying and I am wrong. Either way, stay safe folks.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

You paid insufficient attention. Fentanyl exacerbated his back condition to the point that it became infected. That's why he had the surgery. Then the mere fact of hospital isolation was his avenue to lasting abstinence. It's an illustration about the possibilities of recovery.

[@joeyfung-i]

Love that they included someone getting better and showing a healthy life is possible

[@blairhoughton7918]

Proper medical care would prevent people from having to live with chronic pain and constant medication.

[@helener7545]

You should see it in Portland. It’s now been in front of my sister’s apartment building in what used to be a lovely part of the city. She is terrified to go to the grocery store across the street. I feel deeply for the addicts and the police are trying their best, but sometimes people do get violent, mix it with meth, etc. it is very frightening.

[@silvertone1]

Meth is insane. I had to stop using it not for me but for everybody encountered lol..made me psychopathic, no joke. Violent as HELL for absolutely no resaon whatsoever...mild psychosis i guess. The inner world takes over and it produces rage.

[@williamwilson6499]

It’s the tranq/xylazine.

[@rangerannie5636]

The tranq is causing the sores...

[@MrReymoclif714]

Cannot believe the announcers are so ignorant?

[@ChazinFl1]

Agreed, this "reporting" is very sad.

[@joepromedio]

I was thinking this through the whole story. It's fentanyl cut with tranc.

[@Malama_Ki]

🎶🎵otherwise known as the dope fiend lean🎵🎶

[@tiakennedy1681]

Thank you 🙏 His recovery story is very heartwarming.

[@kathleentate8343]

What is more amazing to me is they bend over in crazy ways and never fall over.

[@JennyMoore-bl4dk]

Seeing that poor dog broke my heart.

[@RandomRabbit007]

People have more sympathy for dogs than they do for these fiends lol. I don’t disagree

[@raymondecho]

@@RandomRabbit007they need their dog taken away it’s not fair the dog has to pay for their persons life mistakes.

[@PonyboyPanchorello]

The dogs of the homeless are happier than a responsible homeowner's dog. Homeowner's dogs get sad when they are left alone and locked up.

[@D1900fas]

​@PonyboyPanchorello is that a fact or an over generalization? I'm tired of these bums using dogs for sympathy

[@JennyMoore-bl4dk]

@@D1900fas I'm tired of it too.

[@JoeOvercoat]

This story is a swing and a miss. If the reporter had researched the affliction in any detail, she would’ve realized she missed a chance to tell that addict that it’s not the fentanyl, rather it’s what they’re cutting it with. that’s making his legs swell and if he keeps using the same product, he’s going to have open sores that are untreatable.

[@dmm6341]

Yes, and it's Trank!!!😮

[@filthforce]

yeah i have done the xylazine dope and regular and while the regular might make ur legs swell a little, that massive swelling is 100% xylazine. being bent over and nodding off while standing is also far more likely to be xylazine than just plain fent dope..... plain fent is kind of bunk, once you have any tolerance to it at all, there's virtually no euphoria, it hardly gets you high feeling..... it displaced the heroin supply because it is so cheap, but it is a far inferior drug

[@rickbrenner6079]

You’re right. It’s the Xylazine (Tranq) that is causing the “bent over” posture on the Fentanyl addicts, which the manufacturers “cut” the Fentanyl with. Videos of Kensington, Philadelphia, the world’s largest open-air drug market, show the homeless addicts “bent over”, as they “nod out”. Almost all of the Fentanyl addicts there, when high, end up exhibiting that compromised posture until the high “wears off”, or until they fall to the ground and fall asleep for a period of time. The Xylazine also is extremely harmful to the human body, and can cause all kinds of open wounds that could get infected if not treated in a timely manner. It is not a drug meant to be consumed by humans (like Fentanyl is), so the deleterious effects of Xylazine on humans can be horrific (like untreated open wounds that get so infected, the only way to prevent the infection from spreading throughout the body (which could then lead to death), is to amputate the limb that the infection has taken hold of. Scary stuff. Xylazine is prescribed as a sedative for veterinary use for horses and cattle.

[@Alice-hi2kx]

​@@filthforce, so true.Heroin is a much safer and far more effective opioid when it comes to pain management. So many people are dying now thanks to prohibition.

[@deborahthorvund3267]

Thank you for this report

[@lccsd2392]

The main issue that was resolved for the addict was his constant PAIN. After the successful surgery that solved the ever present pain he could then recover, initially supervised but away from his drug of choice and so he had no reason to take it because he had neither pain or an addiction.

[@Lp-ze1tg]

Stop the supply chain.

[@AngelaVlahos]

dude. americans. had enough of them.

[@obsidianjane4413]

Yeah that has worked so well over the past 50 years...

[@SpicyMang0s]

Lol that’ll never happen

[@juliepiemonte3268]

Close the border.

[@heatherwade2373]

Can’t find any quaaludes anywhere since they were banned. It can be done.

[@whatabouttheearth]

When I was homeless on the streets I saw people do this when they were nodding off and sleeping, it's amazing acrobatics, they never fall over.

[@annap450]

I‘m very happy for Ben 👏 and wish him all the very best 🌷

[@annemarie19553]

Very informative video. Thank you.

[@alyssagriffin5781]

Lost a cousin this week to fentanyl. My family has a history of back pain, I was able to help my sister get a disc replacement. My sister got her disc replacement at 26. She would have eventually gone paralyzed. It is a shame our parents are against Universal Healthcare but it would be a step to fighting the drug crisis.

[@NTJedi]

Universal Healthcare is a very bad idea, because the US government can't do anything correctly. Just look at what's happening to social security. After the US government permanently fixes its existing problems then the country can consider giving the US government more responsibilities. The same reason why you don't give more money to a financial advisor who's already doing terrible with the first batch of money you provided.

[@melissasmess2773]

Canada is case in point with their failure of universal healthcare 💩

[@SpicyMang0s]

I was on the bus in SF on my way to work yesterday and saw two dudes slumped over while they are sitting down. Its disturbing.

[@whatjake7898]

I have literally never seen that. I guess that's the benefit of not living in a leftist cesspool.

[@attitune]

I'm seeing more and more slumped-over fentanyl addicts on the Muni metro, the 38 Geary, etc. Almost all of them are men.

[@johnwick-ii6il]

You will also see them point their feet inward so they can lock their knees against each other. This makes the joint resist bending and adds support as they nod out.

[@Mystic_Light]

Sadly, the people who need to see this the most, are not watching television. Y'all need to collaborate with Drs in BC. We're 10 years in now.

[@j.7530]

😭😢 I’m hurt seeing folks suffer like this🙏

[@gemee1]

They CHOOSE to do Fentanyl.

[@notanindianscammer7594]

​@@gemee1they are victims of a drug crisis!!

[@dupedbydines1305]

You're hurt? Then vote Republican ffs.

[@Deflow91]

They chose to do drugs, and the politicians don't make it any better by enabling their addiction by giving them free needles and other paraphernalia to do their drugs. You should feel sorry for the people who have to pay taxes towards all of this while living in the Bay area where it's already hard to make a living.

[@susantully1533]

​@@notanindianscammer7594the only time someone is the victim of the the drug crisis is if they were forced to become addicts. If someone made the choice to start doing drugs then they are not a victim. I chose to start smoking cigarettes. I am an addict by definition. I am not a victim since it was my choice to start smoking. 99% of drug addicts chose to start doing drugs. Telling drug addicts they are victims only serves to give them an excuse for their actions which removes the responsibility. A victim couldn't have stopped what happened to them which is not the case with drugs.

[@MatthewEaton-zn4pt]

I always wonder why countries in Asia never have this problem. Our society should take a page or two from their playbook

[@pyootchnich]

Hell, yes. Singapore as an example. They don’t do everything right but they get most of it right.

[@stopper90004]

They all turn to hard drinking instead.

[@peteparsons432]

Good reporting! Thanks!

[@melindasaddler559]

Harm reduction is so cruel. To just watch people destroy themselves like that, it's so sad to see.

[@battano]

"Harm Reduction" more evil DemocRAT buzz words to make you think of good things even though practically nothing good EVER comes out of that side of the nation....

[@Louisa705]

It’s evil until you have a child you are raising in these big cities trying to protect them from dirty needles and diseases.

[@melindasaddler559]

@Louisa705 Making money off of the downfall of humans is evil. They don't need to do drugs. If people weren't encouraged to do drugs to solve their issues, there wouldn't be needles everywhere.

[@battano]

@@melindasaddler559 Just think those are also tax payer funded needles....

[@Lily_of_the_Alley]

​@@melindasaddler559Harm reduction saves lives, and people need to stop demonizing it. The truth is this: drug use will always exist, period, and if you want to complain about a real evil profiteering from human suffering then you can point that finger right at America's for-profit, labor-shackled healthcare system & the government that facilitates it.

[@suzyq8021]

I read a post before from a person who used heroin. He said they're SLEEPING standing up.

[@josebravo5125]

And dreaming

[@kenofken9458]

It probably is just extreme sedation.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

They are. It's like when you're driving and really sleepy and fighting to keep your eyelids open. You're not fully asleep, but you're not fully conscious either. You're numbed out but still more awake than asleep to where it's just more comfy to sorta laze out and dangle. It's just what opiates do at the right dosage - and if you have a tolerance from using them then you're able to go deeper without fully nodding out and going unconscious, and it results in this sorta behavior where it's like you're trying to stay awake but it feels comfy just relaxing "a bit" instead.

[@lauragreer6743]

horse syndrome

[@td7723]

Philly Yoga, 90 degree lean.

[@bear1more287]

Congratulations Ben … stay strong

[@chuckxu5910]

My previous job wanted me to carry narcan and I told them no, so they fired me radical fake news media reporters

[@UrsulaPowers]

Congrats to that young man who fought the battle and won.

[@wpgitchick]

Thank you for this story

[@andypower5531]

They have to be forced off of it. No way those people will willingly quit lol.

[@garylefevers]

Most addicts I know want to be clean. Those in active addiction have to hit rock bottom and decide for themselves that they want to be free of this horrific drug. Hopefully they live through long enough to seek help. The recovering addicts that I personally know are some if the best people that I have ever known because they have gotten a second second chance at a clean life. I know the hard way. Thank God it wasn't fentanol however is was something close, I was addicted to Oxycontin. It is literally miracle that I got to see my oldest granddaughter graduate a couple of years ago and my oldest grandson earlier tonight. I am truly blessed. Sorry I did not mean to preach a semon. Just thought I would share a little bit of my observations having been there myself. Stay safe.

[@kenofken9458]

Nobody has ever been forced clean. Forcing them to be abstinent itself does nothing. People with addictions who go to prison or get detoxed will start using the minute they get clear of that.

[@myranaam8562]

@@kenofken9458 Because prisons dont exist to rehabilitate. Prisons need to start providing extensive rehabilitation programs as they force them to get clean

[@PastorIhaza]

​@kenofken9458 Not all... Some get clean and some reuse... Some die when reusing because they were clean and over dose.... many more die without treatment. We have to try and save those we can..... 😢

[@dixonpinfold2582]

​@@kenofken9458 Just because you've had buddies that got out of jail and began using again right away, doesn't mean many do not. The durability of addictions is highly mythologized, largely because the narrative is dominated by addiction workers who by definition work with the hardest and most hopeless cases. 'Journalists' pitch in with a huge assist because they're dependent on drama and the depiction of awful occurrences. (So dependent that they're _addicted to them,_ it could be said with considerable justification.) Meanwhile the large majority of drug addicts quietly disappear from their respective drug scenes and restart their lives. Their recovery goes unnoticed and generally uncounted in statistics. No one ever strikes them off any database of users, because none is kept. But nearly every overdose death is counted.

[@lovedaybebe5881]

Heartbreaking 💔 I’m so sorry for everyone impacted by this tragedy!

[@jjsmama401]

This is not a tragedy. It’s a choice.

[@lovedaybebe5881]

@@jjsmama401 it’s a tragedy that it’s being made in Mexico and finding it’s way to nominally the USA and now Europe . People are taking lesser drugs that unbeknownst to them are laced ! It’s definitely a tragedy for the world !

[@richardmcleod1930]

You better start taking sides if you want anyone to be saved from the hazards of this drug!

[@christananavarro8257]

Thank you.

[@kricket3815]

This has been happening for a very long time. You just now found out about it?

[@TheCoolbreeze3206]

I've been on crutches for 3 years now with a herniated disc compressing a nerve that affects my left leg which doesn't really work because of it. Doctors want me to lose weight before they do surgery. How can I lose weight if I'm in pain every day, can't walk unassisted, can't stand for more than a few minutes? Maybe I should do drugs too. Physical therapy doesn't help. Injections doesn't help. I wish I could get that disc implant he got. Do you have to do drugs to get help now a days?

[@rookierider2096]

Stop being lazy my pain is worse than urs 😂

[@supinelemon]

i found that cutting out my carbs really helped me lose weight

[@cxg174]

Maybe you are a candidate for semaglutide? My husband's back is being destroyed by his weight. His doctor discouraged him from the weight loss meds. But he is an amputee and with his back he can barely walk let alone exercise. She would rather he die from his weight I guess. But some doctors are more open to ordering it. You can ask!

[@LoveYah1]

Fasting and eating with moderation. Eat healthy natural foods and less processed foods. Drink more water, especially distilled water from time to time.

[@TheCoolbreeze3206]

@supinelemon yeah I've lost about 30 pounds so far. All I can do is change my diet. I personally don't think losing weight will help at all though. I'll need surgery. Because I've herniated the same disc several times over the years. This time it just stuck. Heavy lifting. Some of it is probably my own fault because I did love heavy lifting in the gym, but also because all the jobs I had required heavy manual labor. I didn't mind it, but it took its toll over the years. And the 13 years of military service didn't help either. Medically retired now. Started gaining weight after.

[@rssell]

1:24 Person high on the strongest pain medication known to man says he could stand up straight but "it hurts". 🤣🤣

[@SylviaHolman-ef8fv]

Looks like a great time. So many volunteers. I live in pain every day, my neck is fused and have arthritis of the spine, vertigo with migraine. I do the most I can do every day and I try to avoid even aspirin. Difference of fortitude?

[@kellylott9296]

I just want to thank you for the respectful way you conducted this news story. Often addicts are demeaned but I don't feel you did that at all. Props and respect

[@heh2k]

I thought that was "tranq". Commonly seen in Philly.

[@evonne315]

Same. Probably mixed in with the fentanyl.

[@The_North0]

Zombie

[@PauloHernandezXD]

@@evonne315They're lacing it a lot these days, makes production cheaper thus more profitable

[@klsb75]

Xylezene (spelling??) the large animal tranquilizer that causes sores. Hideous.

[@jugo1944]

Tranq is another class of drugs mixed w fent in Philly

[@kittyroxs]

I dont understand how you can be so out of it youre all hunched over but still your legs work enough you dont fall all the way over

[@Duendito]

News channels need to raise the volume level of their audio. Most of them are SO quiet.

[@ajcraft-hello]

Thanks for reporting on this. Was in downtown SF this week and it’s so sad. Talked to one kid outta his mind…gave him the rest of a 1/2 liter water bottle, he was so grateful it was💔 IDK the solution but there has to be One🙏💪❤️✨🌎

[@filthforce]

you want to know something crazy.... if they opened heroin maintenance clinics and gave free, medical grade heroin for addicts to inject under supervision 2-3 times a day (as some other countries have done), it'd eliminate most of the problems. and it's truly not even expensive, especially when you consider all the crime that stops happening, because people no longer need to make up any money to stay high

[@anglophils645]

This is very educational. We do need to force people into drug treatment. It worked for this man, and it would work for a lot of people. Great reporting, and exceptional delivery by Lyanne. She speaks clearly and well. So many reporters today can barely speak English!

[@Choppini]

If you force someone into drug rehab, they will be out and on it again before you can say 'peep'. Just as with alcs. They have to WANT to stay sober. There is truth in this: >> The goal isn't to be sober. The goal is to love yourself so much that you don't need to do drugs or drink. Most of the drug users neither want help nor be sober. Because it would mean that they might have to get up every morning, clean up, and 😱 perhaps have to work for a living. Prove me wrong. Our city has an abundance of homeless drug users. Many of them get picked up by bylaw officers and put in a shelter. And a big percentage get evicted almost instantly because they DON'T WANT TO OBEY TO ANY RULES, are aggressive, combative, and the only thing they want is to be on the road, steal, B&E, and get money for drugs and booze.

[@k.elysium6819]

It doesn't work for everyone. I know someone who was forced into treatment twice due to medical issues. Due to both chronic pain and untreatable mental illness (despite seeing a psychiatrist regularly) they cannot stay clean. Until chronic pain clinics start treating ex-fentanyl users that live with chronic pain, there is no help for people in this category. When you have a condition that regularly has you in so much pain that you become nauseous from the pain, there is nothing that can be done other than give safer narcotics or offer MAID.

[@ottopartz1]

Unfortunately unless someone wants to be clean, treatment just doesn't work.

[@AP12360]

I agree. Organizations and non-profits go out each week begging them to seek assistance and leave the streets, yet they decline. How can city leaders address the issue when they refuse help!? The answer is clear: they need to be forced off the streets. This is the only viable solution. If they are unwilling to accept free help and get off the streets, there is no alternative but to force them or this problem will just become worse and worse!

[@cinnamoslut]

@@k.elysium6819 medication assisted treatment is a good option for people with chronic pain who struggle with opioid addiction. Methadone is an extremely powerful painkiller and is often used in treating people solely with chronic pain. The doses of methadone used in MAT are typically much higher than doses used solely for chronic pain. And the patient gets more control of their dose in MAT, so they should be able to get to an effective dose to properly treat their pain. I had to go thru MAT to get effective pain management. I'm not alone in that. One of my counselors said they estimate about half of the patients at the average methadone clinic are covert chronic pain patients, or, people with chronic pain and opioid use disorder. It's way more common than you'd think.

[@RobinaB530]

I didn't know about the back thing with fentanyl. Bizarre to see those people standing around like that.

[@AngieBaby666]

This is common with fentanyl users everywhere. I have seen it progress as the heroin supply has been overtaken by much more powerful fentanyl where I live. I have an idea that users spend so much time slumped over , even while sitting , that the back eventually remains in that posture. I don't know if it's the drug itself of just how it causes people to relax so much that they are constantly hunched over. II used to use the drug and this is my experience. it is a very striking phenomena and I can easily recognize fentanyl use when I see the same posture in other places.