SFV:CE How to improve at zoning (Fireball zoning and nontraditional zoning)

[@OdinStan]

McMura - The hidden gem of the FGC.

[@sergman94]

I swear, this guy and rooflemonger are doing it right.

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thank you so much.

[@israeltommy3604]

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[@forestlouie7664]

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[@MCMuraFGC]

I also wanted to add that Regarding Ryu, his forward dash/jump along with EX fireball are his best answers vs walk forward and block.

[@iZonkGaming2021]

Ahh I was hoping for some Sagat action out of you, can’t deny he is the most interesting zoner to watch right? Great video once again, I’m starting to show your videos to people for specific characters. You have something for every one, great job!

[@phguitar23]

Lol he's the most boring zoner to watch

[@abdu5320]

@@phguitar23 let's agree to disagree

[@MCMuraFGC]

I find Sim to be the most fun zoner to watch personally but Sagat is certainly really cool as well. Thank you very much.

[@Ggreen1122]

Thank you so much on simplifying and giving a better explanation on ryu fireball game as a ryu main for years I’ve been scared of throwing them now I can use them for specific purposes!

[@MCMuraFGC]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@420haxx]

Great video, i have played a lot of SF over the years but still didn't know about some of these fundamentals.

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thanks, appreciated

[@jmarine28]

FB traps!!! I knew you could bait the jump using lp.fb but baiting with a lp.bf+hp.fb (specially as corner pressure) is something new to me - so simple to understand too

[@MCMuraFGC]

Glad you found it useful.

[@returningwhisper]

Just wanted to say I love your videos, thank you for making these!

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thanks very much, really appreciate it.

[@hesrizen1519]

Awesome upload! Your explaination in this video is clear and its super!

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thanks.

[@dionrezario]

thanks man! very useful. im just starting out playing shotos character.

[@MCMuraFGC]

Goodluck, shotos are super fun, who are you playing ?

[@Confudgius]

You good sir are amazing, you'd make a great teacher

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thank you very much.

[@matkacp8880]

Great video King! Your videos made me soo much better at SF! Aslo 14:00 god i wish it was me ;0

[@feri7mble]

Great video on a very interesting subject.

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thanks, it was really cool talking about it.

[@freshprinceofnightcity]

Helpful indeed.

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thanks a lot.

[@grasshopper30000]

I definitely see why I am at the rank I’m in I never knew these facts

[@MCMuraFGC]

Glad you found it helpful.

[@facts-never-lies3160]

Love it thank you .

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thank you very much.

[@donmurowski9421]

Awesome video, thanks for this

[@MCMuraFGC]

Thank you very much.

[@AsDeft]

6:37 video on grappler mix ups maybe?

[@MCMuraFGC]

That's a really cool suggestion.

[@Limit5482]

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[@MCMuraFGC]

Officially in there ?

[@Limit5482]

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[@co81385]

Excellent video! I think that this is one of the best videos, explanations, and demonstrations of the zoning game that I have seen! I have a question about zoning, and while I may have asked this question before, it is still something that I have trouble with. Say you throw a fireball or projectile, and your opponent doesn't respond by jumping over it or by trying to dash or advance forward. Instead, your opponent either backs up and just blocks the fireball, or neutral jumps it. What would be the best response? Also, I play Zeku, and I would consider Old Zeku to be a zoner more similar to Poison than Ryu. What would be Old Zeku's best way to combat someone who walks and block? He doesn't have something like EX Heart Raid or EX Yoga Fire.

[@Ticketman99]

Watch the video.

[@MCMuraFGC]

So when they neutral jump, you will not be able to throw another one until the jumped on leaves the screen. This is pretty much them resetting the neutral/zoning trap game. However, if you happen to do the LP boom, you could use that to gain some ground and move forward. I would also think that Old Zeku is a bit like a weaker Poison. With him you can try to check with cr,MP and cr.MK as well as st.LK buffers. He doesn't have great ways to force plus frames unfortunately, i guess the trade off is that he gets a DP.

[@protagonist52]

i can throw a fireball, but i struggle understanding the space

[@vinicius464able]

I don't like fireball in this game, every character have it's own unique way to deal with it. Seth has the sweep, v-skill 1, axe kick and the spinning kick, to me it feels real difficult, high risk and low return, i tried before i found it not to be fun.

[@MCMuraFGC]

Yeah, fireball zoning is certainly difficult in SFV, you can do it, but you can't win just by doing it. Its like a battle phase, not really a consistent gameplan.

[@lenneth1188]

What about medium fireball

[@MCMuraFGC]

You may use it every now and then just to throw off their temp but it doesn't have a strategic use like LP and HP

[@pav5971]

Ty for the video. Im descent at zoning. But alot of it was intuition. Does the same fireball stratergy apply to guile? I noticed sometimes i can anti air but other times i cant

[@MCMuraFGC]

Certainly, Guile have an even better LP boom (His LP boom is even slower than Ryu's LP Fireball) His HP boom is a bit worse than Ryu's HP Hadouken though.

[@fluox_etina2201]

guile's zoning changes in comparison to ryu's?

[@supermarioz5]

where did you find that poison mod :O

[@MCMuraFGC]

this is a mod by www.patreon.com/Leonaura/posts

[@Giraffinator]

Heard it, immediately had to test it: It takes 110 ten normal Ryu fireballs to bring Ryu's health to 1 Also, it takes 75 blocked Ryu sweeps to turn his entire healthbar gray.

[@MCMuraFGC]

I am kinda proud of my math on the fly then lmao, saw the FB doing 10 chip, Ryu have 1025 HP so i just thought it would be over a 100 to chip him out. But man, 110, that kinda sucks.

[@grasshopper30000]

Will you be playing gg strive

[@MCMuraFGC]

Yeah, i am planning to try it out.

[@vg4917]

lately i just go back and throw them cause people will mess up and get hit. its free damage

[@vg4917]

then they get annoyed and predictable

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Ooh zoning

[@vg4917]

all this is reversed w nash.