Eagles recent struggles change your opinion of Jalen Hurts? | NFL | SPEAK

The Philadelphia Eagles have lost four out of their last five games entering Week 18. Quarterback Jalen Hurts was quoted saying the Eagles “still got to clean things up” as they approach the playoffs. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones decide if the Eagles recent struggles have changed their opinion of Jalen Hurts.
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[@Mannyfreshkidd66]

Eagles Defense is young they will get better

[@sherispraiselist966]

James Jones is a Hata, so of course he's been, "right".Same ISH, different week....

[@avi9023]

Dak played with a surgically repaired thumb last year and didn’t get any of these excuses

[@coreyhiggins6890]

You should've typed this in bold text...

[@PiyachonYuenyongHYDE]

If it was Dak, They'll be burying him right now.

[@forcecalibration924]

Facts, talking bout Jalen is hurt. That’s a bunch of bs making excuses for him. Everybody ripped Dak to shreds for last year with pins in his thumb

[@bigt2079]

Two of them are excuse machines, but only for certain players.

[@larry2281]

Media loves to bail out Hurts, Mahomes, Herbert, and others.

[@lyte8102]

even as a proud cowboy hater, the fact these bozos and everyone else defends Hurts and cook Dak when he’s struggling is nasty work

[@kingdre6397]

Us Cowboys fans are used to it. It’s truly disgusting at this point

[@BM-_]

They do the same to Purdy

[@jabrodii]

He’s like 30 he should’ve been got it

[@rogerp4612]

Spot on.

[@savvystatus3581]

@@jabrodiinahh Playa every great Qb in the last 3 decades hasn’t gotten a SB Untill 30s every last one

[@kennethbyrd4807]

Joy says this about Jalen but acts like Brock is a bum 😂

[@eatYoself]

Wasn't she the one who said Brock compared to Jalen is an insult to Jalen, but we all know why she's on the show and it ain't for expert analysis.

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

@@eatYoself It's for b👀bys

[@flossyb761]

​@@eatYoselfbro i hate her takes she takes up for shady eagles every show and shady is tired of making excuses he's finally sold that his eagles are DUMPSTER JUICE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@raymondhake9820]

She has as much business being on that show as I do being a hair stylist

[@mattbardales5861]

It’s wild how turnovers don’t seem to matter anymore now

[@Jaynesslessly]

josh allen ruined elite QB discourse lol, best thing since sliced bread and leads the league in ints every season

[@paulreyes6221]

It only matters when it’s QBs they don’t like

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

Hurts leads the league in turnovers cus he can't read a defense, stares down receivers nonstop, has a mid throwing arm, it's always excuses for Hurts. Has all the weapons in the world and the best OLine in football. If it wasn't for the little 1 inch rugby tds dude would be below average. He's an okay rb, not an NFL qb. Dude stole the bag from Philadelphia. Last yr was the outlier, this yr is just Hurts regressing back to the mean. Stop coddling dude it's sick. If this was anyone else they'd be getting THRASHED in the media

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

​@@JaynesslesslyYes, but Allen does everything else great, unlike hurtsy

[@Jp-do9ny]

​@@Jaynesslesslylol All people talk about with allen is his turnovers

[@17thNO]

James Jones has been right about the Eagles and mostly every other topic they bring up every show.

[@electric8668]

Including Justin Fields.

[@lbcrickyb510]

Facts

[@TheBananaquack]

He is usually the only one that makes sense on this show

[@flossyb761]

​@@TheBananaquacknaw acho makes sense as well

[@real_kriss7263]

He’s the least biased on the show. I appreciate the fact he assesses the situations these players are in.

[@andrewmiller4116]

"It's hard to win with a 29th ranked defense" My lord they have not kept that energy for Herbert Jesus Christ

[@dntfakethefunk]

This is the comment I was looking for!!! Why Jalen not taking them down the field and winning the game right?!

[@JeromePhiffer]

I think their problem with Herbert is the specific games where the ball was in his hand and he couldn't clutch it out. I think most people recognize their defense is bad, but you have to pull through in clutch moments if the game is ending with the ball in your hands.

[@coleworld2429]

@@JeromePhifferi understand that but in almost all those situations like that this year he had almost instant pressure in his face and sacked.

[@bcamm3100]

Man if the panel likes you, they see no wrong... its bad that guys aren't judged the same

[@coleworld2429]

@@bcamm3100 and they crucify everyone they dislike anytime they get the chance. when dallas looks bad its cause dak sucks. when chargers looks bad its cause herbert aint that guy. when the eagles look bad its not hurts’ fault. its crazy

[@dondoprophet]

can’t believe yall called hurts elite after one year 😂😂

[@azeezibnnaim]

Bro statistically if the 6th best qb in nfl.. on a down yr

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

Players ranked him 3rd best player in football is what's absurd lmaoo, proof the NFL 100 is bs even if the players pick

[@Yungkobe415]

Exactly, his a gimmick QB like Kaep was for us ..

[@SplashIt34]

I refused to. Dude isnt even a running back he’s a fullback

[@theboy7323]

@@azeezibnnaimThank you!

[@ThirdThinker]

Joy is holding on for dear life for the Eagles. Accept it already. They are not a good team.

[@BM-_]

She’s the worst on this show and has been doing talk shows the longest 😂

[@SomeRandomParticle]

I don't think you have realized she does not like the eagles

[@ThirdThinker]

@@SomeRandomParticle What does that have to do with what I said? I never said she liked the Eagles.

[@Colecaraballo93]

You right she likes Shady lol.

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

I guess getting to the Super Bowl is better than winning it

[@thomasblackwell5031]

I noticed that when ever the Eagles get beat he always makes up excuses for Jalen Hurts, he puts all the blame on the team, but when the cowboys loses, he blame Dak,even if the defense plays bad,Dak did his job,he drove down the field and put the football in the end zone.

[@ericthurman1050]

facts see j.fields

[@chadrams1787]

They follow the narrative

[@1623ALBERTO]

I can't stand Joy & Shady!

[@thuu261]

If Joy wasn't copying everything shady said this year. She wouldn't sound so stupid when she talks 💯

[@BigDave113100]

He filling her up with his stupidity lol

[@kingdre6397]

Lol now Shady stressed so she gotta make her man feel better by pretending the Eagles still have a chance to win it all this year when everyone with working eyes can see that they’re broken

[@hawkeye7866]

Take those two out of this show and you might have something.

[@CraigCarton-ec4ku]

Can't take this show seriously with her and Mccoy fr tho

[@donnycash]

Joy aint gone say a negative word about Jalen Hurts 😂😂 she love that man

[@DB-cg4vs]

From a raven fan the excuses r insane 😂

[@gsb_hopout]

Facts

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

Hurts leads the league in turnovers cus he can't read a defense, stares down receivers nonstop, has a mid throwing arm, it's always excuses for Hurts. Has all the weapons in the world and the best OLine in football. If it wasn't for the little 1 inch rugby tds dude would be below average. He's an okay rb, not an NFL qb. Dude stole the bag from Philadelphia. Last yr was the outlier, this yr is just Hurts regressing back to the mean. Stop coddling dude it's sick. If this was anyone else they'd be getting THRASHED in the media

[@goatbill88]

I can't believe they sat there and let joy compare hurts to A rod. Then she had the nerve to say it twice and they still didn't stop her 🤦🏿

[@raiton2100]

It’s comical tbh

[@Destro357]

Comparing Rodgers to Hurts is crazy 😂

[@elnanojgc19]

Shouldn't even be discussed period.

[@ZacsDragons]

💯 agree

[@ericreed3006]

CRAZY

[@CraigCarton-ec4ku]

Joy is a 🤡 🤡

[@javonpage1765]

When Dak recievers was dropping the ball last year they still blamed him but when mahomes recievers do it its the recievers fault

[@tammybenefield667]

America’s team that’s how it goes . Dak gonna shut ‘em tho

[@ChrisB-jz1ll]

Remember all the energy entering that 9er and Eagles game and Shady was so sure 😂 man oh man, this is awesome

[@noodlesramen3137]

Niners broke the Eagles 😂

[@BigDave113100]

The excuses they make for the eagles on this show is ridiculous lol

[@flossyb761]

Bro its so sad cuzz they don't wanna make shady mad cuzz he made more money than all them in his nfl career 🙈🤣💀🤡

[@char4928]

James Jones was spittin straight facts

[@putna369]

It’s funny they have all these excuses for Hurts, but clowned Dak for all his interceptions last year.

[@abigaillinares3940]

As niners fan....agreed.... they are hypocrites when it comes to certain players

[@sadewelsh7333]

Shocking. A niners and a Cowboys fans hating an Eagles quarterback. News at 10.

[@Bigmommashouse317]

@@sadewelsh7333cry

[@Lvl1Machop]

@@sadewelsh7333are u dumb his correct where all the other media outlets this dude is just winning that’s why they not clowning him but dak had a winning record but still clowned him

[@SomeRandomParticle]

It's funny how you make all these excuses for Dak, but clown jalen for all his picks this year.

[@colbyryans1018]

I think they over hyping hurts and they overreacted so much that they cant go back

[@anthonyhinton6748]

I’ve joy and shady say hurts was elite after 1 good season now they’re trying to retract their statements. Jalen is not elite, he’s just a good QB

[@jfmallon75]

Carson Wentz Syndrome 2.0

[@colbyryans1018]

@jfmallon75 that's exactly who he is he just was blessed his injury wasn't as bad and he got to play in the bowl and his teammates actually like him but aj brown starting to see he aont like that cuz he feeling how Stefan Diggs feelings

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

@@jfmallon75 Prime Wentz > Hurts

[@gclay3176]

That’s exactly what it is

[@kevinparham8208]

When Brock Purdy plays good they say it's the "system", he's in a good "systems". When Hurts plays bad they say he needs a better system around him. They say Brock can't "elevate" his team around him or "elevate" the offense. But Hurts is supposed to be the guy to do that so why isn't he? These debate shows are getting worse than Fox News and CNN with their up and down takes.

[@blakewagner2895]

They said the same thing about Matt Ryan but they'll give other qbs passes.

[@abigaillinares3940]

Agreed

[@Jp-do9ny]

It's funny because Hurts is a system QB. He has a top 2 receiver and the best O line in the game, yet still struggles to throw more than 200 yards and has the most turn overs. While Purdy has one of the worst O lines and still throws darts

[@sadewelsh7333]

That’s because Shanahan actually calls good plays……

[@sadewelsh7333]

You clearly don’t watch the Eagles games start to finish. If you did, you’d know that Hurts isn’t even close to the problem.

[@forcecalibration924]

Hurts is not hurt stop making excuses for him geez 🙄

[@darthvader7380]

Neither is Dak

[@jctslice]

@@darthvader7380 who tf said dak is hurt lol

[@asundelgun3487]

​@@jctslice😂😂 tf is he talking about

[@FullSweatTryhard]

Knees are toast… he can’t make a cut on them anymore.

[@michaelharmman6937]

😅🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@ajmango210]

I’ve never seen “runner up” used so often to try proving someone is elite lmaooooo

[@harlem343]

Acho reminds us everyday that shady is the leading rusher in eagles history… WE GET IT!!

[@CowboysDos09]

😂 and a 2 time Superbowl champ, where Shady didn't play not 1 snap in either of those Superbowls 😂

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

ShegaLs don't even have a history lol

[@tanmayamin6515]

"It's hard for any qb to win with defense ranked 29th" Shady. This is the same guy that keeps saying that JF is not worth keeping because he has lost so many games in his first 3 season when bears's defense has been at the bottom of the league for most of that span. Hypocrisy has no limit with this guy.

[@TheYoungKidC]

Agreed. Same thing with Justin Hebert and the chargers awful defense. I don’t know why Jalen Hurts gets excuses

[@aaronreborn7661]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this!!

[@rogerp4612]

LeSeandra is the absolute worst.

[@Jprezzgottherightopinionz]

I love how when Jalen hurts is turning the ball over, it’s cuz he’s hurt and it’s the coaching but when Dak turns it over it’s all because of him. Not because he was playing with pins in his thumb. Not because he had barely any pass catching weapons aside from Ceedee. Not because Kellen Moore would call some atrocious plays. It was all Dak according to everyone. The double standard is crazy

[@dr6507]

if he was really hurt they wouldn't have 13-15 DESiGNED runs for him a game..🥱 NEXT🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@khristianpeel7165]

Last two games the only picks he threw were due to a receiver slipping and a Hail Mary. I don't see your point other than trying to defend your king Dak

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

Media is wild😅 comparing hurts to Rodgers is crazy. I'm with you though. Dak does not deserve the hate at all. He's 12-5 every year. He is a winner

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

Hurts leads the league in turnovers cus he can't read a defense, stares down receivers nonstop, has a mid throwing arm, it's always excuses for Hurts. Has all the weapons in the world and the best OLine in football. If it wasn't for the little 1 inch rugby tds dude would be below average. He's an okay rb, not an NFL qb. Dude stole the bag from Philadelphia. Last yr was the outlier, this yr is just Hurts regressing back to the mean. Stop coddling dude it's sick. If this was anyone else they'd be getting THRASHED in the media

[@Jprezzgottherightopinionz]

@@khristianpeel7165 what about all the other turnovers he’s had this year? This is less me defending Dak but more giving hurts the same energy. Especially since everyone hailed him as a top 5 qb, so treat him as such. Especially since (and I’m assuming here correct me if I’m wrong) you think Jalen is better than Dak. So critique him as such

[@gamebred88]

Half them tds are goal line sneaks

[@Yungkobe415]

Fareal,😂😂😂 he's so mediocre its funny

[@Bladestruction]

Things i've learned from this show: turning the ball over is a problem only if you are Brock Purdy, because he is the weak link. Also i learned that when your team is playing bad, you have to elevate them, otherwise you are NOT a elite QB. But only if you are Brock Purdy. If we are talking about Jalen Hurts, is a different measure. Got it!

[@abigaillinares3940]

Agreed...because purdy had one bad game....he is fraud....etc.....unfortunately they are hypothetical

[@KaliaH]

2022 Dak Prescott has entered the chat

[@jfen1494]

@@KaliaH speak on it

[@Hail2daChief]

Everything you said applies more to how they treat dak on this show… they don’t talk bad about Brock on this show… they told the truth.. he’s not the MVP

[@edwardgritsak3731]

@@Hail2daChiefAnd Dak is most definitely not the MVP. Unless you make an award for mvp against the worst teams in the league 😂

[@DesignRobot_co]

Jalen is getting mad passes by the media. Jalen is going to be closer to this. He is not a good pocket passer.

[@huluhulu3002]

Thank you.

[@matthewalexander6592]

He leads the league in pocket passing 🤣🤣 nice try though

[@DesignRobot_co]

@@matthewalexander6592 no he does not lol 😂 stop the cap

[@huluhulu3002]

@@matthewalexander6592 fake stats 😂

[@matthewalexander6592]

@@huluhulu3002 that’s not the issue the problem is the lack of creativity on offense and defense. People acted like losing both coordinators is no big deal 😂

[@JimmyStewart03]

Wait… I thought Hurts was a “game changer” according to all the talking heads… He was the reason they won when they were winning… Now that the team is losing, the coaching staff is solely to blame…? Keep making excuses y’all…

[@sire3669]

In a way... Yeah... Philly was winning a lot of games in large part to QB draws. Teams start recognizing, and learn to adapt. Hurts is a glorified running back, and he will never be a QB that can learn to go through his reads quickly, stand in the pocket, and deliver with accuracy consistently.

[@jDiddyi]

@@sire3669 make sure you don't delete this

[@DieHardEddieEdwards]

I thought the bit from Joy about his success last year was funny, because last year everyone on the desk dismissed their easy schedule as a factor for their success. They’re obviously very good, but last year was an easier schedule and things broke right for them a lot. This year, things are going the other way, so we can’t just point to last year’s success and assume that’s who they really are and this isn’t.

[@theejayzeeable]

She's an obvious BS artist who goes with Shady's flow and just throws cliches out there. She's got no playing or coaching experience to be able to give credible analysis.

[@entreri76x]

The only reason the Eagles went to the Super Bowl last year is because the 49ers did not have a quarterback after the first drive of the game.. lol.

[@jDiddyi]

@@entreri76x the only reason they went to the SB last year was because they were the better team, and dominated the line so bad multiple QB's got hurt. This year, not so much.

[@joefaeghi3393]

So one sided. Dak went 12-5 last year but all you heard it is he sucks

[@MyMovie5858]

Dak has always been impressive during the regular season. The issue is the postseason. The QB of his caliber should not be doing 2-4 in playoffs after 8 seasons in the league.

[@Morgan9977]

Because they didn’t go to the Bowl 🥴

[@tommigun102470]

Facts!

[@drexeldragon1723]

Dak was 8-4.

[@CatchASide95]

⁠@@MyMovie5858bro u do realize it’s a team game right especially in the playoffs. Everybody has to be clicking to make a deep run. It’s QB’s that has made it far but not better than Dak. Matt Ryan, Nick Foles, Jared Goff, Jimmy G, Joe Flacco

[@ajmango210]

Comparing hurts to rodgers is hilarious

[@Jp-do9ny]

If rogers was in the Eagles, he'd be pushing 60 tds

[@TrevStoker]

Let’s be real. The NFL done got that film on bruh. Crazy how turnovers don’t matter now that it’s not Dak leading the category 😒

[@JV-NY987]

What are you talking about? They started the segment talking about Hurts turnovers🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@TrevStoker]

@@JV-NY987 ..but do they come with the same 🤡 energy for Hurts that to do with Dak? Nope. They be up there all giddy, laughing & kekeeing when it’s Dak having a bad game. They had a whole segment throwing Dak MVP ballots in the trash.. where’s that for Jalen? 😒👉🏽🪑🪑🤡

[@SomeRandomParticle]

@@TrevStoker Right here

[@electric8668]

@@TrevStoker Or Justin Fields.

[@jordandillard4095]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@JV-NY987and what did mmcoy say about hurts turnovers? Nothing. He blamed it on the defense and swift not getting the ball.

[@pegacorn13]

NO. It doesn't NOT change my opinion of Jalen Hurts. He is an amazing QB: end of story. This is on the coaching.

[@doubleoosplash9189]

Absolutely right , jaylen is a captain , a leader , he been hurt all year with his knee and look at wat he is accomplishing, so they gotta respect Jaylen he has 35 touchdown’s or more the man is 25 it’s the defense an the offense as a whole

[@Sho-of6ti]

@@doubleoosplash9189so leading the league in turnovers is on coaching? Also you explained that he’s a system QB then. Name one other QB with a great line and 2 number 1 Wide Receivers not play well and it be blamed on coaching.

[@DeaconGoss]

Ok now we’re saying the Packers had the same level of talent as the Eagles this year and last?

[@asundelgun3487]

They be stretching boy 😂😂

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

when I heard her say that I was like she doesn’t do any research

[@CraigCarton-ec4ku]

That was the most random irrelevant comparison ever 😂😂😂

[@RayTheAwesome]

As a Cowboys fan seeing Shady full on Sad Boy SZN is 🔥 but also love the content from this crew, keep it up!

[@randycastro5290]

The ONLY consistent one is James…… As for Shady , Joy and Achoo, “Excuses are like bungholes….Everybody has one, BUT, NOBODY wants to hear it.!” I guess excuses only apply when it’s Hurts….???? PS: Hurts LOST the Super Bowl! Nobody’s Happy about LOSING the Super Bowl. Don’t believe me? Just ask BUFFALO….I guarantee you they wish that never happened. It probably “Hurts” (no pun intended) to even talk about it….🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@sheastadium2008]

​@randycastro5290 I like Achoo. He just too nice. You could tell he wanted to trash him.

[@brettcharles1041]

Sam Acho needs to bring me on the show and watch me roast LeSean McCoy on his Eagles nonsense.

[@Johenz]

Emmanuel**

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

@@Johenz It's *Sam(uel) lol

[@SuperKool500]

​@@SamoaVsEverybody814 That's his brother

[@Johenz]

@@SamoaVsEverybody814 you know there’s two of them. There’s Samuel Acho and there’s Emmanuel acho

[@TheChipiboy]

Jalen Hurts gets favored so much. How are you considered elite or as an elite level talent after ONE good year? Josh, Patrick, Burrow, Rodgers get the benefit of the doubt after stringing along multiple great years and priving themselves. If all his 4years in the league hes been average with the exception of one year, you are still average.

[@PiyachonYuenyongHYDE]

Where are your energy like when you trashing Dak, Shady?

[@ellis_1046]

As a 49er fan that has watched his teams OC AND DC go to another team... IT PLAYS A BIG PART. This should be the topic of discussion based on the impact alone. Plus the Eagles lost players since last season. It just happens. It's not all on Hurts man.. we seen how great he can be.

[@Johenz]

Never been that great

[@sadewelsh7333]

Other fans see the stats and don’t watch the games. Hurts is FAR from the problem on offense. The play-calling is abysmal and they have zero hot routes. Anyone with a brain can see it’s mostly coaching (Jalen does need to work on not bailing the pocket and turnovers).

[@mtk2fitness208]

Thanks for this comment. I think people forget that sometimes. Not making excuses we definitely got issues but when you make such major changes, something is going to give .

[@Johenz]

@@sadewelsh7333 he needs to learn how to read a defense can’t just throw it to aj and smith and hope they bail you out. Jalen is part of the problem because he’s limited and that’s something eagles fans don’t want to admit. I live in Philly and was a huge fan of him in college but he’s always been limited n it puts the oc in bad positions. Can’t read the defense and can’t stand in the pocket, he feels a little pressure and takes off every time. Look at dak Prescott development throughout the years dak used to do the same thing and was very mobile in college and his first two years but he learned how to be a pocket passer and learned how to read defense better. Not hating on hurts just calling a spade a spade.

[@demondesires865]

IT happen to Josh Allen as well he was struggling a bit as well with Brain Daboll gone

[@andrewheller4302]

Dak last year 16 turnovers, Jalen this year 19 turnovers. "I can't trust Dak, he is trash" same people, "I still trust Jalen"😂

[@CowboysDos09]

FACTS, it's ridiculous, according to them Dak was the worst QB ever with his turnovers last year, gave Dak no excuses.

[@A7X062388]

And dak had a broken thumb on his throwing hand

[@Native5]

Dak always had a defense and still lost games.

[@Carters2Cents]

They would be calling for Daks spot and blaming EVERYTHING on him sooooo

[@Yungkobe415]

As a hater to Dak and Dallas I actually agree

[@Carters2Cents]

@Yungkobe415 Don't be a hater big dog, your team is a problem for whoever they play, you don't have 💩to hate about but thanks

[@Yungkobe415]

@MrCowboyCarter22 lol I just agreed to you Dak gets more blame than he probably deserves unlike Jalen ..

[@Carters2Cents]

@Yungkobe415 I know but you stated as a Dak hater and Dallas hater lol

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

​@MrCowboyCarter22 He's a Niner fan, let him hate lol

[@paulreyes6221]

Acho: “Shady you are the Eagles all time rushing leader 🤓”. Bro, you don’t need to say that every single time on the show, we get it

[@huluhulu3002]

Thank you. It’s getting annoying.

[@coryzeke3771]

Some people are new watchers. So please shut the f up so people can enjoy. Old listeners like us need to stay off comments and keep our moth shuts we are what ruin everything

[@cnbinvestments3876]

Haaaaaaa the excuses are amazing haaaaaaaaa I love it We’ve been saying this all season bro you finally hit the brick wall of lies you’ve been telling all season one and done in the playoffs trust!

[@Junegotthejuiicemusic]

Lessen literally said jalen hurtz was a game manager last year 😂 “ we relied on the run and it opened the play action pass “

[@Jit21_.]

They’re saying their opinions haven’t changed based on stats. If you watch the film, Hurts doesn’t throw the ball unless it’s a wide open player or a jump ball. He’s not a good QB. He’s a mobile QB that can make easy throws in a stacked offense but isn’t going to slice & dime a defense. Opinions on Hurts should have changed based on film NOT stats.

[@electric8668]

Justin Fields is better.

[@ronnievyce]

Game manger!

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

Only thing hurt about Hurts is his inflated reputation due to having everything around him perfect. Dude's the definition of MID, regardless of his 1 flukey season in '22 😥🦅😥

[@Yungkobe415]

Exactly , medicore QBs make SBs everyday B ..

[@A7X062388]

@@Yungkobe415 Um, many mediocre qbs have made the sb lmfao nick foles made is buddy......A great team can lift a QB up. Nice try

[@Yungkobe415]

@A7X062388 what you even saying ??🤣🤣 nick foles was definitely mediocre as well

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

@@Yungkobe415 Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman, Brad Johnson, Jim McMahon etc etc have entered the chat

[@Yungkobe415]

@@SamoaVsEverybody814 I named all those guys in another post about Jalen Hurts. Mediocre QBs have success on stacked teams all the time

[@no-kap805]

Give Lamar , Allen , rodgers, Mahomes ,stafford ,dak the weapons hurts has they all put up minimum 40tds

[@timhodges3754]

If Jalen Hurts and Justin Fields changed places, Justin would have the success that Hurts is having and Jalen would have the failures that Fields is having. People forget there were questions about Hurts being a franchise QB a few years ago. But his team drafted Smith and traded for AJ Brown. Two number one WR’s and a great OL later and he goes to the SB. ijs

[@Penguin5x3]

Joy really out here comparing a 25yo Jalen to a 39yo Aaron Rodgers saying they are the same. Hurts has one good year with a stacked team and they say he's elite and that's his norm.

[@bamm2pointohh]

Jalen made the playoffs with waaay less shhhh.

[@danielike6395]

WRONG....BE REAL

[@electric8668]

Justin is more talented than Jalen. Jalen just happened to have fallen into a much more supportive situation.

[@dnice33]

Big facts. Hurts never in his life been more talented than Fields

[@joefaeghi3393]

Dak had a broken thumb last year but no one talked about it but hurts gets a pass because he might be hurt

[@ziqaustin]

Nobody gets a pass in Philly. You didn’t hear the boos? You can bet your a$$ he gettin roasted in the local media along with everyone else on the team.

[@joefaeghi3393]

He’s getting one on speak

[@bd8033]

I love how when you lose, it's the team, it's the defense, it's the coaching. But when they win, now it's just Jalen. As if he goes out and plays all 22 positions on both sides of the ball.

[@noodlesramen3137]

He sucks

[@coleworld2429]

every player has up and down years? jalen has had one up season and thats it. not hard to see he’s a system player and benefits from a lot around him.

[@luiscorrochano3446]

Love how Joy condemd Brock but Jalen who is doing worse then Brock won't say anything negative..... I wonder why ?

[@rqhstlouis]

Their numbers are comparable. Y’all say anything.

[@paulreyes6221]

@@rqhstlouis no, not even close. Brock has been miles ahead of Hurts this season

[@rqhstlouis]

@@paulreyes6221 a lot of their numbers are comparable. Y’all just glazing.

[@luiscorrochano3446]

@@rqhstlouis They real aren't at all but I have nothing against Jalen I think he was great last year just not this year. What I have an issue with is how Joy reports on Brock in comparison to other QBs. I think their is a bit of bias for some reason.

[@rqhstlouis]

@@luiscorrochano3446 Brock has more yards and less turnovers. But that’s about it.

[@kelvinthomas4998]

They basically admitting that ,he's overrated, because they say greats can throw from the pocket.

[@Yungkobe415]

Joy's take here in incredibly terrible it Hurts to hear, no pun

[@forcecalibration924]

Jalen Hurts should be known for what he’s been his career not just last year so I’m not surprised, yall the one who made him elite after one year😒

[@germanysmith7752]

He has 70+TDs back to back double digit win seasons and went to the SB last year 😂so great?

[@Jay-ci4to]

@@germanysmith7752half them to touchdowns is from the rush push tho lol, it’s not even him running it in, they are pushing dude in lol

[@germanysmith7752]

@@Jay-ci4to half? 15 of 38 isn’t half like 40% he’s like 11th in yards 12th in Pass TDs in his “down year” still has a game against the Giants lol to better his numbers DJ had 15 pass TDs and got 40 mil yr😂I don’t wanna hear anything about Hurts

[@Ka_Dee]

​@germanysmith7752 regardless, he gotta KEEP IT UP! One good year don't make you elite. He having a bad year. Gotta get that same burn, that everyone else gets. He not excused. Dak gets crushed everytime he has a bad game. Purdy, and Lamar. He not having a good year. NO EZCUSE.

[@germanysmith7752]

@@Ka_Dee his bad year is 2nd in the NFL in TDs is hilarious and Purdy has been one of the most protected QBs either way he can still win division he’s still in the playoffs 😂yall criteria for a bad year is literally laughable

[@fatbastard9187]

Eagles are the HIGHEST TEAM SALARY out of all 32 teams this year. They were the Yankees/Dodgers of the NFL in terms of spending. They have all the talent on this team. Only issue was the COACHING with 1st year coordinators on the offense and defense.

[@mroctober3583]

That head coach is a problem too

[@KennethOnyema]

Joy Taylor is so shameless no way she used Aaron Rodgers as an example😭😭😭

[@ArctictheDragon]

I dont really care for Lamar, but coming out of LOU the man has made major strides and bettered himself. Jalen Hurts is still pretty much the same dude he was in college yeah he won games, but his team had to be great.

[@hazydaze1170]

Jalen Hurts' career trajectory is currently on the same path as Colin Kaepernick's was

[@coleworld2429]

very similar to wenz’s honestly. qb played great and got to the superbowl. lost their oc to the colts to become a hc and all of a sudden the qb isnt the same. crazy

[@MyMovie5858]

​@@coleworld2429Agree 💯

[@Yungkobe415]

Huge facts

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

Hurts might b done in the near future. Dude needs everything around him perfect or his ceiling is below avg to mid asf

[@MyMovie5858]

@@SamoaVsEverybody814 I probably won't go that far. Hurts is certain not at the same level as Mahomes or Lamar, but he is talented. What he needs is a system that will utilize his talents and leverage the talents around him, and the Eagles are not doing that.

[@michaelwright131]

Shady and Joy lookin reallll Hurts 😂😂😂😂

[@davidgooding3143]

The problem with Joy's comp is the media didn't freak out about one bad year from Aaron Rodgers because it was one bad year for A-Rod. We have only seen one good year from Jalen and several bad years, so going back to bad is more of a concern of was the good year an outlier.

[@CraigCarton-ec4ku]

Thank you

[@elamin777777]

Where were the "The whole team is playing bad" excuse for Wentz. Wentz had Jalen Reagor and JJAW... Hurts has absolutely NO EXCUSE. give him all the blame like yall did Wentz

[@DBAIR21]

Jalen had 4 tds with 20 mins of play time. This ain’t on hurts

[@giffondhall9214]

It is

[@caseymays46]

3...pick six doesnt count

[@asundelgun3487]

So why didn't he close the game out? He had the ball at the 50 and game is on the line and he could barely get 15 yards😂

[@DBAIR21]

Play calling was horrible. What is he supposed to do with a screen pass and 2 qb draws

[@lboogie1831]

@@DBAIR21they don’t watch the games 🤦🏾‍♂️ Comments tell it all.

[@ZayX236]

“It’s hard to win with the 29th ranked defense” mahomes first superbowl they had the 30th 🤣

[@TheYoungKidC]

This isn’t even remotely true lol

[@SamoaVsEverybody814]

And idiot ShegaL fans were saying Hurts > Mahomes just last yr 😂

[@lojosgummybear4722]

The funny thing is McCoy finnaly admitted to the eagles downfall he shoulda been said this by that Kansas City win that this team looks shaky kept on saying “ a win is a win”😊

[@ThirdThinker]

People love to be in denial and learn the right way. Acho and James Jones called this out months ago.

[@iSpartan119]

This is not what he said on the last show lol 😂 he straight up said is that what we doing now we listening to the streets?

[@LTZ_Z71]

THIS is the real Jalen and Sirianni. Jalen is this year what he was his first two and Sirianni was a benefactor of a talented team last year but this year he actually has to coach and it's showing. Last year was an anomaly.

[@davidjennings2461]

Ma’am please don’t excuse Hurts’ turnovers. You didn’t excuse Dak’s last year even though he had a broken thumb! And now you can take Micah’s money to the bank….. Jalen is a System Player.

[@rayban8680]

I recall Shady trashing Dallas after they lost to Arizona…

[@OrlandoTurner18]

Herbert had broken ribs and didn’t get these excuses

[@coleworld2429]

and bad coaching and a horrible defense. these guys are insane

[@Txology]

They love talking about last year like it’s this year 🤣🤣🤣 in that case just make hurts MVP since last year matters lol

[@TheYungSesShow]

Forreal bro the glazing for jalen hurts on this show is weird asf 🤦🤣

[@tyelersutherland6145]

This is insane, Hurts had a good year last season but look at his numbers outside of last year…. His numbers this season look like his numbers in all his other seasons outside that superbowl season

[@Theteenagegamer]

In his Super Bowl season he had a cake walk. Giants and a different positions playing qb for the 49ers and then lost to the chiefs

[@fishykinggoat88]

He had 38 total tds

[@EDWARDTHEEAUTHOR]

How long Joy going to hold on to Jalen being a all-pro last year, he’s not an all-pro this year nor will they go to SB

[@anthonyhinton6748]

She keeps bringing it up like it’s gonna help them

[@gerski]

I heard on this channel MANY times, “Everyone is hurt, but the Elite QBs find a way to win.”

[@DonLyfe556]

This was a good and fair discussion about the state of the Eagles. Coaching staff just isn’t putting Jalen and the offense in the best positions to win

[@skimonkey5855]

it's simple - gave j hurts the bag and talents are gone! that's what happens when u give a good qb a BIG bag! mistake.

[@EDWARDTHEEAUTHOR]

Did Joy compare Hurts to a QB who had no receivers, I wouldn’t have said that 😂 hurts numbers should be nowhere near Arod when he has Aj brown and Smith

[@RayRay-qz5vv]

I just came for shady reaction 😭😭😭😭 priceless

[@BriefKeef]

Lmao @ shady...Acho "My favorite ball" Shady "whoa...wow" 😂😂

[@rooseveltwardiii2689]

When a NFL organization pays their quarterback 200+ million dollars, the organization do not want him running a football as much anymore. The problem is the organization wants their 200+ million dollar quarterback to throw the football from the pocket and unfortunately, Jalen hurt is not a true pocket passer yo…!!!🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@noodlesramen3137]

He’s not even a qb 😂he’s a RB

[@antisocial9152]

Why is joy on the show when she has the same opinion as shady on ever topic we only getting 3 different opinions from 4 different people 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@TequilaThursdays]

I ask myself the same question bro, she gives no insight and just parrots whatever Shady is saying.

[@antisocial9152]

@@TequilaThursdayssmh show called speak 🗣️ not agree 👍🏾 😂 and they be gang bangin on my boy James and he be having good takes 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@onb23]

The Eagles are not repeating .

[@terryharris8228]

lol Josh Allen without his legs might be worse than Winston 😂they love that man

[@TheGIJoe69]

Don’t want to hear the excuses. Jalen would agree that he is not playing to his standard. At the end of the day the NFL is about production and what have you done for me lately. Jalen and the Eagles not getting to the Super Bowl is a disappointment.

[@coleworld2429]

thats not his standard. that was a one year outlier. the way he is playing is who he is

[@charliehustle3439]

Stop giving this dude so many excuses and credit he is basic plan and simple tryna make him a hero stop it

[@RashadTyrique]

I’m just here for the reaction after 13:50 😂

[@djbeazy]

Rodgers vs Hurts comparison was idiotic. Eagles had an overall better team and Hurts weapons are triple times better than what Rodgers was working with.

[@timmyjackson6918]

Getting Joy to say that Jalen is playing bad at quarterback is like pulling teeth out of a hungry crocodile that you just woke up while being dressed like a zebra😅

[@paulreyes6221]

It’s funny that Hurts has been in the league for four years now and he still can’t pass in the pocket well. Brock’s barely finishing his second season and he’s been one of the best pocket passers in the league this season

[@TW-hb2cr]

Joy will say anything so she won't look wrong from what she was talking all year agreeing with Shady that Hurts and Eagles were the best thing on the field instead of just admitting that this year the players, coaches and team just aren't as good as their hype.

[@Thebulish]

😂😂😂😂 shady funny as gotta love dis show

[@AttackZola]

They tried to compare Rodgers last year in Green Bay to hurts this year with no context like dude didn’t have an aj brown nor Devonta smith like nahh and I get it coordinators but also sometimes as a player you’ve got to make a read off of how the defense is set and audible the play

[@andrewheller4302]

Acho is so right, mobile quarterbacks just can't last.

[@soda8736]

Milrose better learn to read a Defense and stop all that running.

[@Chiskills1]

Difference is competition is better this year

[@angelatanurdzic7508]

Happy New Year!

[@DavidECoy]

U have pocket passers who can’t move or run around and then u have pocket passers who can move around and run for yards. Then u have running QB’s who can throw the ball and those who can’t. Joy is partially right. This league wants pocket passers who can move around and even pick up a first down running when necessary. Teams do not want running QB’s who can’t win consistently from the pocket. Cam Newton is an example of what teams do not want. He was a running QB who took a lot of hits, got injured multiple times and finally had his super power taken away so this league told him to go sit down. That’s why he is so salty right now. Teams want players like Mahomes and to a lesser extent Purdy. They are guys who can beat u consistently from the pocket who can move. These teams want to draft a QB they can see starting for them for the next 15 to 20 years. When u play QB like a RB it means u will have a shorten career like Cam, RG3, Kap, ext. If Jalen keeps playing like Cam he will be out of this league in the next few years. If he can learn to win from the pocket like surprisingly Lamar is now then he will have a much longer career.

[@soda8736]

Spot on. Look at Anthony Richardson..

[@DavidECoy]

@@soda8736 as a niner fan look at Trey Lance. Kyles plan was to run him a little more till he could learn the offense better and then scale back the running and start throwing more. He didn’t even make it through 2 games before he got hurt and missed the rest of his first year as a starter. Every body always asks why is Purdy starting instead of 2 number 3 overall picks in trey and Sam? The answer is he processes the defense quicker and is more accurate because they all 3 of them can move around.

[@soda8736]

@@DavidECoy Alot of people now a days dont understand the nuance of the qb position and are memorized by atheletic ability. The most important thing is the processing and making quit decisions and its grear to have the atheletic ability to make a play when things break down which Brock has.

[@DavidECoy]

@@soda8736 absolutely. What did all the greats do? They ran around to throw not to run. We saw Brock do it again last week. Spun out and found space behind the line of scrimmage and then directed BA to a open space and hit him for a TD

[@isaacmartinez7557]

The annoying things about these annoying talking sports heads are that they c an use an argument to bury someone they dislike but use that same argument to help their own cause

[@joshuaokparaocha331]

Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are identical stat wise but you would never know the way they talk about them

[@12geogeo]

I love Shady. He's a real personality 👏👏