Springfield Prodigy vs. Staccato C2 Head to Head Battle.

[@chosen452-GwT]

Never had to deal with Springfield customer service but about two months ago I broke the safety on my Stacatto C2 when it took a significant blow to the concrete! I emailed them and within an hour I had a response that included prepaid shipping labels and within a week of shipping it back to them someone called me from Stacatto and told me that they were not satisfied with the repair so they were just going to send me a brand new one free! Four days later I had it and they also included 3 stainless 17 round mags! A few weeks after that they called me at 2:00 on a Saturday afternoon just to make sure everything was ok. If you are investing this much into a handgun what is that type of customer service worth???

[@SGT1911]

That is awesome man. Good to hear. Thanks for commenting

[@mooktemas6800]

Wow. Because of this comment I’m getting one tomorrow! No joke.

[@Stack151]

How could you break a thumb safety and then require a completely new pistol. That makes no sense whatsoever.

[@charleschavous6683]

@@Stack151 I didn’t read that a replacement was required, but preferred by the company to ensure their brand.

[@bthorn5035]

Customer service goes a long way. That's why I haven't bought an Arsenal product in 15 years, and never will again.

[@WickedRickKid]

I like this guy. Most channels are hosted by people who have been taking shooting lessons and courses for years. But sgt1911 is just a normal guy. With a normal guy opinion. And that’s wonderful. Because I’m a normal guy. Not a tactical pro with 5k hours behind a pistol.

[@SGT1911]

Thanks bro. I appreciate it

[@amunratrans1982]

I understand you there. I only been into firearms for about two years and I got one handgun not because I don't believe in having more I just can't afford more 😂. I'm all seriousness I agree with h you this channel is just normal person with realistic and humble opinions. Not arrogant and paid for opinions of a lot of bigger channels. Like you said normal guy with normal amount of hours behind pistol and like you I am not some tactical bad ass either. Oh yeah new subscriber

[@SGT1911]

@@amunratrans1982 thanks bro. Please invite your friends. Like you said, this is my honest opinion, like itnor not. It is what I think. I don't get into too much technical stuff that I find irrelevant. None of us can out run a bullet. All brands do the same thing. Thank you for watching. I appreciate it very much

[@amunratrans1982]

@@SGT1911 very well said about none of us can out run a bullet. Instead of getting the firearm in this video I think I will save to upgrade current firearm and get more ammunition and pay for high quality training

[@SGT1911]

@@amunratrans1982 Shoot Well, and live long, Thanks for watching

[@t.sheets2798]

I bought a 4.25 Prodigy DS and love it. Out of the box, mine failed to return to battery numerous times when I first shot it, but it wasn't a parts problem. It needed to be thoroughly cleaned and lubricated. After that, I have put hundreds of rounds though it with no failures. Word to the wise, before you go upgrading it for no reason, try a good cleaning and proper lubrication.

[@SGT1911]

You the man T. Sheets. I hear all this bashing and all you have to do is shoot and clean and shoot some more. Plastic pistols are not the same. This is a 1911. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching

[@Dclawspker]

I have heard all the issues but a double stack 1911 at half the price was screaming at me to loud and I bit the bullet and bought a 4.25 prodigy as well. I wanted to test it my self. So I bought it and have yet to clean it. Only had one issue returning to battery on the second shot with the handgun. After that I'm 300 rounds in with no cleaning and no issues. Want to see how far I can push it before I run into issues

[@SGT1911]

@@Dclawspker it ia all about the break in. Most people shoot plastic pistols these days are do not even consider a break in period. For a 1911, it needs to be shot. Like breaking in a pair of boots. Thanks for watching

[@dannymccraw4841]

I have a 4.25 prodigy and put 200 rounds through it had two failure to extract, and one that caught the empty between slide and barrel with new round trying to load. Now I’m pretty sure it was with one of the prodigy mags that this happened because my cousin had his staccato there and I was also using his mags also, never happened with staccato mags and pretty sure it was only one of the prodigy’s, will keep better track next outing. Over all I prefer the prodigy over the staccato, except slide release and safety, will also say I preferred the staccato trigger just ever so slightly, not $2800 and f slightly though. The prodigy shoots really good , as good as staccato

[@jasoncassey8003]

Great review. I love your no nonsense, down to earth style.

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Bro. I appreciate it. Thanks for watching

[@DeflocksLabs]

SGT, amazing video! Thank you for taking the time to out this together. I feel like SA made this to try to capture a part of the market like myself. Ive always drooled over a 2011 but couldn’t justify the entry cost. The prodigy isn’t the best, but it’s a great entry cost-wise into the 2011 world. I would rather pick this up to see if this is the route I want to go into and upgrade later.

[@SGT1911]

agree. The 2011 is not always the best option for carry

[@jeffbeavers1461]

Thanks Sarge for the review. Love both guns I've always been a 1911 guy. Have had some 1911's that were great and some not so. Found out you do get what you pay for!

[@SGT1911]

Always

[@davidhunter9974]

Great review SGT1911. Very solid detailed points you talked were covered. Both guns are expensive but one is more expensive than the other and for good reason quality, durability and reliability is what you’re getting in the staccato. Both are great handguns nonetheless!

[@SGT1911]

Thanks David. I try to do a good job

[@spencerwarren9219]

The reason more is prod has mim parts and staccoto doesn't. I replaced all my mom parts and paid 275 bucks for everything with a up graded trigger. I paid $1245 for new prod 4.25. With upgraded parts which are better parts then staccoto factory parts I have a total of $1525 bucks total. I installed my holosn eps carry msr which co witness better then any pistol I have owned. The optic is $400 so total with atti wagwell $50. So a grand total of $2000 still $500 cheaper then a basic staccot with no optic. Now I have better internals then a staccot and a top notch optic. This is a staccot killer foresure. Also a wallet saver.

[@punisher9oneone]

Yes, the Prodigy fiber is smaller. But they are suppressor height and will cowitness with a red dot…. That in itself is an advantage.

[@SGT1911]

if you use sights, i don't. thanks, fort the comment and thanks for watching

[@punisher9oneone]

@@SGT1911 at some point, all rds will fail/battery will die. Being able to use the irons for backup is not a bad thing. At most cqb distances, I don’t use either sight nor rds lol. Some of my best stages have been point shooting run and gun stages. Lol

[@SGT1911]

@@punisher9oneone some here. Point/run & gun

[@sheepofthemaster7778]

Great review, thanks. Question: Can they both fit the same holster?

[@HORRUS29]

Thank you very much! I'm going to wait and save for the Staccato.

[@SGT1911]

Good choice. Thanks for watching

[@derekwest2]

Great video! Just a heads up, you misspelled staccato in your title. I mention this because when I searched for videos on the comparison of the 2, your vid didn't come up. I just happened to stumble across it on you channel. You deserve the views!

[@SGT1911]

Thank you. I have not noticed, and no one has mentioned it before. Thanks for watching

[@tommyseales6759]

This is one my favorite gun channels Sarge. Love your honest reviews. Salute 🫡

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Tommy

[@nealrugel5423]

Could not agree more. I just bought a 5” Prodigy and love it. I had 6 rounds not go back into battery in the first 150 rounds. I cleaned it, put 150 more through it and it runs. People forget that Prodigy is a production gun, Stocatto is more of a custom gun. So for the price, I went Prodigy, will I one day have the other, probably. Thanks for the “real” review!

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching

[@leevaello438]

Thank you for your honest review I think you nailed it it's a 2011 on a budget

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching

[@fearnonebutone4977]

Excellent video! Staccato’s are definitely top notch. I first purchased the staccato p via their LE program and it’s been flawless. I then ordered the Staccato P Heritage which hasn’t arrived yet. Last week, I purchased the C2 and it shoots great-as expected. That being said, 2/3 mags failed to lock back on an empty mag and one of those mags had a round nose dive. I have heard amazing things both their customer service so I called them and was put on hold for 40 minutes, then passed to someone else and waited another 15. I finally spoke to Bruce who told me that those issues are usually related to the magazine spring, and that he would be sending me two new magazine springs. He was very polite and I definitely appreciate him sending me the springs. But I’ve spent around $8k with them and I kind of feel like they could have just replaced the magazines as a whole instead of sending me $9 springs. I would have gladly returned to faulty mags and even offered to do that but Bruce declined. I still love staccatos and they shoot beautifully. Bruce was still very polite so I appreciate that. I have always heard that HK has poor customer service. I’ve shot thousands and thousands of rounds through my P30/P30L/P30sk and never had a single issue of any kind. I don’t know if HK has poor customer service or not because I’ve never needed to call them. I understand that staccatos are built with very tight tolerances compared to many other guns on the market and know that sometimes things happen. It’s just a bit frustrating. I still love their guns though!

[@SGT1911]

You bet, the staccatos are top notch

[@kevmac1230]

Like car warranties the best CS is the one you never need.

[@NotGonnaTel]

Picking up my 5” prodigy today. Gonna install a 12 lb recoal spring and daniels defense disconnector. Polish the ramp and I guarantee it will be a nail driver! Few bucks on some upgrades and Bam! Great review!

[@SGT1911]

Got you it bro. Run round nose through it for a while. It should run like a Toyota

[@dennisrankin9508]

Great Job!!! I have had a Staccato for a long time, actually I have two! I have the Staccato P for duty use and the Staccato C2 for EDC! The Springfield is a good platform but I believe the Springfield will not be a Staccato Killer, it will be a 2011 affordable for all. Thanks for the head to head trial!!!

[@SGT1911]

I agree. The Springfield is NOT a Staccato and never will be. Thanks for watching

[@davidjohnson5393]

Does the sights on the Springfield co witness with a red dote?

[@SGT1911]

I don't have a red dot amd I don't run them, but it may. For me, a person who does not the answe is, I don't care. The Staccato can run a red dot as well, I don't run one there either. Apples to apples comparison

[@sickofitall8486]

You may have already answered this on your own from other comments, but they do co-witness with the red dot.

[@desert_cerakote5662]

Great Video, I own a 5” Prodigy, but after seeing the new CS at shot show, I want that as my new EDC!!!

[@SGT1911]

The Staccato is NICE. shoot it first and see what you think. Thanks for watching.

[@billtshudy3653]

Hey Sarge, Appreciate your honest opinion. Got to handle a Prodigy yesterday, seems like a nice pistol. Thank You for your service Sir!

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Bill

[@jblcrown100]

The Bul armory SAS II tac 4.25 is the staccato killer for only 1890.00 better magwell. aluminum modular trigger shoe, grip on the Bul is superior to the Staccato. Full length pic rail. Better undercut on trigger guard.

[@rollingchopsticks]

totall agreee

[@maxfit68906]

I own one. And that is a FACT.

[@waynecastleman1363]

That's my pick and no worries

[@jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459]

I really want a BUL 1911, but they basically don't exist in my area.

[@lonewolf6169]

100% agree

[@maui6446]

Dude, looks like you are shooting on the Master's Tournament golf course! Very nice!

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Bro and thanks for watching

[@b.c.731]

I can't wait till Springfield starts making cs type carrys. Springfield prodigy 4.25 has been awesome for me. I'm not a 1911 guy but kinda wanted to get in and see how it was. So I got the prodigy as a good starter. Awesome review and video.

[@SGT1911]

Thank you and thanks for watching

[@maxfit68906]

I would consider the Prodigy an affordable option as opposed to a “killer” which is a cliche in the firearms industry when you have a new release that competes with an equivalent firearm.

[@SGT1911]

Affordable option is accurate

[@mrguiltyfool]

@@SGT1911 I don't understand why no one compare it to ria tcm ultra series aka 2011. It is more affordable and look similar on paper

[@SGT1911]

@@mrguiltyfool if I had one I would. Here is the deal bro. I have had to learn the hard way. Some of these people don't even have one to start with. If you really examine the comments, some are 10 yes old, or act like it anyway. Some can spell big words, but don't understand them. I appreciate your comment and I appreciate you watching

[@tfcbankershooter]

I'll go the same direction and change the disconnector...

[@kaliboy1717]

Sarge I heard about you through another Gun Tuber Tactical 715 and appreciate your video on this comparison.. I own quite a few Springfields and look forward to getting my hands on that 4.25 Prodigy..

[@SGT1911]

You will not be disappointed. Give it time to brake in some. Thanks for watching

[@KeanonGilliamSlang369]

I've shot at least 5 different Prodigys (5 inch) from customers. Four had various malfunctions or issues. The fifth one being flawless. The 5 inch models seem to have the issues. This is just growing pains since this is a new product. I bet if they had a gen 2 version in the future it will be flawless.

[@SGT1911]

That is what i am feeling as well. I am having no problems

[@chadcarroll3727]

Thank you for the review.

[@chadcarroll3727]

I am trying to decide if I want to go with something like one of these, or a commander size 1911 for my ccw gun.

[@SGT1911]

many commander sized 1911's on the market. look around and look for used

[@deangundlach7164]

I have had a C-2 w/o the red dot mount it was 2K. From round 1to the 800 or so I’ve never had a malfunction with any type of ammo range or carry. I carry it often and trust it as much as my H&K. Another good job Sarge 👍🏻

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching Bro. Shoot safe

[@rusharley2080]

Thanks brother. Awesome video. I am getting the staccato.

[@SGT1911]

Good choice. Thanks for watching

[@TheMichaelBernardBrown]

New favorite channel. Thanks boss! I have put 300 rounds through my Prodigy and have had 7 total stops. It does NOT like JHP but LOVES FMJ. It loves the cheap bargain bin 115gr target ammo and does not like the higher priced 124gr stuff.

[@SGT1911]

There you go. Shoot it, clean it and shoot it some more. This is a handgun, not a x-box controller. Thanks for watching

[@jla3772]

I have 3 1911s, a Colt Commander, Springfield Armory TRP, and a Kimber Super Carry; never did any of them fail to return to battery. I've also got a Kimber Micro 9 and never had that failure with it either. I did have some stove pipe problems with my FN FNX 45 Tactical until I did like FN suggested and broke it in with Federal American Eagle ammo

[@SGT1911]

Break-in is critical with most to get reliability

[@jla3772]

@@SGT1911 Except for a Glock of course

[@SGT1911]

@@jla3772 right. A 1911 is just getting broken in when the glock is all used up. Shoot safe

[@ricklarence7751]

Just got the 4.25 inch and looking forward to getting off layaway end of the month

[@SGT1911]

Great. Remember. Break in with round ball ammo

[@DB2A7]

Great vid. Subscription earned. My Kimber has been solid for me. You've convinced me, so I grabbed a Glock 21 SF. Thanks SGT.

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for the sub! and thanks for watching

[@GatorPitofTexas]

Great informative comparison. Local gun shop has both in stock. Going today to pick one up. Probably, the Staccato. Cry once on the price. Think if I get the Prodigy for less $, I will always wish I spent the coin on Staccato and no regrets. Thanks for the info.

[@SGT1911]

The Staccato is the choice

[@GatorPitofTexas]

@@SGT1911 Got the Stacatto this afternoon. Compared side by side to the Prodigy they had, as well. You are dead on in your review and opinion. Sights, weight difference, etc. Thank you for the accurate review. Cannot wait to run rounds Sunday. Ritch

[@SGT1911]

@@GatorPitofTexas have a big time bro. Thanks for the update. Shoot safe

[@paulbrownwhpd]

Thanks for the review Sarge. I just picked up a 5” Prodigy. Itching to get out and shoot it.

[@SGT1911]

be ready for issues, BREAK IT IN

[@mtiger5]

Good video man. The Springfield is a great entry to the 2011 world however I love my staccato P. She’s a little thick but man does it shoot flat and smooth

[@SGT1911]

The Springfield is NOT a Staccato killer for sure. Thanks for watching

[@JohnAdams-mu7xd]

Very well done review!!!👊

[@SGT1911]

Thank you John

[@harrydexter8426]

Excellent evaluation SGT. Keep up the good work!!!👍😊🇺🇸

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Harry, I appreciate it. Stay safe

[@jayfishandshoot7147]

Great video! Fair & Impartial!

[@SGT1911]

Thank you. I really tried to be that way. If one would watch me load the mags i even alternated the mags when loading. I have a few troll comments but they are probably children at home with momma

[@eddiearchuleta615]

I ordered a 5 inch prodigy I love the bull barrel and balance of the pistol give it a good 500 round hard break in!

[@SGT1911]

You git the right idea. Break in

[@rickyramirez3483]

You got my attention and delivered! My respects…nailed the vid. Keep on truckin’, Brother!💪🏻🇵🇷👍🏻

[@SGT1911]

Thank you Ricky, I appreciate it. Thanks for watching

[@rickyramirez3483]

@@SGT1911 hey, Serge’ just got a 12g Maverick 88, Mossberg for home defense…sling or no sling?

[@SGT1911]

@@rickyramirez3483 not needed st home. Bug out. Yes

[@michaelmcbride1204]

Thanks for another great video. I am really enjoying your channel. What 1911 would your recommend for beginners to the 1911 platform who are on a budget. Thanks again.

[@SGT1911]

Look at the Rock Island and the Springfields. Also remember there are different sizes. A used one is just fine. Thanks for

[@anthonylandino7709]

Isn’t the higher front sight on the Prodigy better for cowitnessing with an optic?????

[@SGT1911]

Yes

[@jnunes246]

best gun review on youtube

[@SGT1911]

Thank you very much. I appreciate it greatly. Thanks for watching

[@danal1911]

Great video Sir! 👌🏻

[@SGT1911]

Thank you! and thanks for watching

[@chrislanier7304]

I Enjoy watching your reviews great job !

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Bro.

[@samuelrgonzales111]

SGT, now that was a good video.

[@SGT1911]

Thank you and thanks for watching

[@RammaJamma3]

Reason Springfield sight is taller is when u have a red dot on it u can still use sights

[@SGT1911]

I have heard that. I don't own one

[@RammaJamma3]

@@SGT1911 It’s all good. Springfield is red dot ready I don’t have that Springfield neither but do have red dots on a couple pistols that came Red dot ready and have holosun’s on them. Have to say am 46 now and I really like red dots on pistol. Really like your vid’s keep it going u going do good.

[@SGT1911]

@@RammaJamma3 thanks for watching

[@SkipsGunz]

Eventually SGT1911 and SGz collab and build a bang bang bang

[@SGT1911]

Someday

[@WvMnts]

I’m torn between them. On one hand I see videos saying you can make a prodigy way better than staccato bc of price.1200 vs 2400 vs and all the aftermarket support. On other hand staccato top tier and only upgrade if ya want. Totally torn lol. Someone needs to do total upgrade value on both. And list what was done to both with range footage

[@waynecastleman1363]

I'm not going to say much here I think you covered it pretty well for what it is ( price ) One other thing to note was that Springfield has the Prodigy sourced out , possibly Alpha Foxtrot makes these but I'm going to dig some more on this. Great review SGT And as always Stay Strong 💪🙏🇺🇸

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Wayne

[@michaell397]

I keep hearing this farmed out thing but then again, there have been more than one reviewer that claims that they toured the plant and saw the Prodigy's being machined in house. Rumor's? I have no idea. We will learn the truth shorty no doubt. KnifeMaker

[@waynecastleman1363]

@@michaell397 Yeah I'm still not getting any real feedback on this and it doesn't seem it would be a secret, time will tell .

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Wayne

[@SGT1911]

@@michaell397 eventually. That would suck to be springfield

[@larryzackeroff9889]

The Staccato killer is the Bul Armory Tac II Ultra Light. Give it a review, Sarge. You will be impressed.

[@SGT1911]

I not even seen a Bull, anywhere.not yet

[@DeadRingerMachine]

The sights on the Prodigy stand higher so they can be seen through a red dot. As you can see, the Prodigy you have will take an optic and the Staccato you have will not. So there's a reason for the difference in site height. If you want a gun with optics capability, you're generally going to get iron sights that are not the most conducive for carry. So my advice, if you don't do optics, DON'T get a gun that's optics-ready. If you have a gun that's optics-ready, put a red dot on it.

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching

[@douglasstrickland8916]

I watched a video on the Prodigy the other day. The guy had spent two or three hours just racking the slide back and forth on a brand new Prodigy. He was getting huge amounts of GUNK off the slide and had never fired the pistol yet. He would oil it up, put it back together, and just rack the slide back and forth. He was getting a lot of gunk every time he stopped and cleaned it. He thought the issue was just excess coating on the frame and slide. As he oiled it up and racked it the excess coating was rubbing off and coming loose. He had spent several hours tearing it down, cleaning it, oiling it back up , and just going back to racking the slide back and forth. He thought that from when he started the process till when he finished there was a significant difference with how smooth the action worked. Seems like a bit of work to go through but with it to save $1000.00 dollars or more on your weapon choice to me. But then. HELL I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ANYWAY!!👍💪🇺🇸

[@SGT1911]

Wow. Not me. I just shoot it. Before I even cleaned it. The more I shot it the better it got. I hear there are a lot of unhappy Prodigy owners. I also think mosybof them were with the 5" and had spent ZERO time on breaking. But. Like you say, I don't know anything. I just love to shoot. Thanks for watching

[@lynncowden5740]

I owned an STI years ago and it was far and away the single best handgun I have ever owned. That was when Kimber's were almost legendary and before the onslaught of other well built guns arriving from all over the world. Today, these "boutique" guns are the rage of the internet corksniffers. I know they are great guns, but any competent gunsmith and some money can turn a Rock Island Arms 1911 into just as good a shooter as any of these uber dollar pieces. It wasn't that many years ago when the epitome of the 1911 dream gun was built around the name Caspian.

[@SGT1911]

Where have you been? all of these BS remarks and you make a plain common-sense statement. get a frame and build a sleeper. looks like shit, shoots like a dream. Thanks for sharing

[@lynncowden5740]

@@SGT1911 I've seen your builds and not only are they beautiful, but I'm confident that they can shoot every bit as well. In today's world of the internet, far too many are spending money on high dollar names and just not worrying about their shooting abilities. From cars, to Harley's to guns, I've been modifying and building shit all my life. Some of us old dogs just walk our own path thru life don't we?

[@thorshammer5134]

@@lynncowden5740 shit I’m of the same mindset. Get a pistol and build it for yourself to your specifications and wants. I carry a cz pcr that I did all the spring work, polishing, whatnot myself. It’s a mixture of parts from CZ custom, Cajun Gun Works, and MCarbo. I probably spent maybe $150 on parts and I would put it against a custom shop pistol any day. 6.5lb da, 3lb sa. I think these pistols are cool but they don’t justify the coin when you can build something just as good for half to a quarter the cost. I love to tinker and have been doing it probably since I was 4 years old. Work on cars, motorcycles, guns, build stuff, whatever. Why pay money when you can learn to do it yourself then have the satisfaction and pride in knowing it’s completely yours and one of a kind.

[@NorthwoodsShooter]

I now own both, and since purchasing, I’ve put at least 600-700 rounds through both. Since that time, I’ve come to love the Staccato line of pistols. Now I’m off to trade the Prodigy.

[@SGT1911]

I get it. Once you shoot the Staccato, you know the difference

[@SGT1911]

sounds like a plan

[@freedmansjournal]

I think the Prodigy makes the 2011 market bigger and will draw people in and eventually sell more Staccatos. I've got one coming and now I've got to shot a Staccato too.

[@SGT1911]

The Prodigy is not a Staccato but a fine gun. Thanks for watching

[@davewilson3893]

Liked the review sgt, how’s the slide to frame fit compare to each other?

[@SGT1911]

Staccato hands down better. Smooth, no wiggle, not grit

[@gerroricomabulay3535]

I got the Springfield prodigy 5". My only issue is the recoil spring. Sometimes I can out run my trigger pull. I think I'm gonna change it to 11lbs recoil spring.

[@SGT1911]

you can, or polish the feed ramp, or just keep shooting

[@roul3688]

Love that Prodigy but it had to go back to Springfield to ream out the chamber. Some rounds (mostly S&B) would cause a failure to go into battery and get stuck in the chamber, made for tough extraction. No problems though with other factory ammo like Blazer Brass and Federal 147gr

[@SGT1911]

It will work out. Nice e pistol. I woukd have done it myself but some feel more comfortable with warranty work. Great. Thanks for watching

[@roul3688]

@@SGT1911 If they don’t fix it, I’ll do what a wise man once told me: polish, polish, polish

[@sambamjaeger]

@@roul3688 if been seeing more and more guys tuning the extractor to fix those issues

[@roul3688]

@@sambamjaeger It’s not an extractor issue, the chamber is too tight. Rounds that got stuck in the Prodigy’s chamber, freely fall in/out of every 9mm barrel in I have. SAAMI spec for the base of the case above the head is .391” but rounds that measure .387” won’t fully drop into the chamber and get stuck.

[@JC-cv3up]

I’m glad to report mine worked but I installed a 12# recoil spring in my 5” before shooting for the first time.

[@jeffreylucas3421]

I still think dollar for dollar and pound for pound its hard to beat any 1911 Dan Wesson The Staccato also looks like its has a bigger beaver tail. I like that as well.

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Jeffery Thanks for watching

[@T30-z5w]

Those are my go to brands, Dan Wesson for single stack and Staccato for 2011s. I’ll never buy cheap 1911s again. Not worth the hassle.

[@SGT1911]

@@T30-z5w I get it

[@juangalazcbr]

Sat here for 21min so he can just say “NO” haha! but great video !

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching Juan. I appreciate it

[@EPGunman]

I absolutely enjoyed this review!!! You nailed it sir and for that you got a new subscriber!!! Keep up the great work and stay you !!!

[@SGT1911]

Thank you, Jerome. I appreciate it very much. Thanks for watching

[@FARACI1]

Great review thanks for all you do 👍🏻

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching!

[@nolatone]

My Wilson Combat Experior is a similar top end (slide/frame fit, etc) as those two guns. With a certain brand of 124 grain full metal jacket ammo it would not go into battery probably once or twice per magazine. All I had to do was barely touch it with my farm to get it to go into battery, but it would drag on that ammo. I did a typical break in, 300 to 500 rounds, keeping it good and wet, no cleaning during that time. Now it eats that same ammo just fine. Have not had any form of a failure in several hundred rounds now. So I would say, 1911/2011 wants to be broken in, I think more so than most of the typical plastic guns.

[@SGT1911]

nalatone, amazing you are one of the few who recognizes there is a need to SHOOT THE DAMN THING, quit crying and shoot. great comment thanks

[@georgezeigler3858]

You have TO shoot them my rock island 45 gets better every bx

[@SGT1911]

@@georgezeigler3858 rock island are good, but they are not even close to these pistols.

[@1980prostreetcutlass]

The sights r optic ready height so they could exist with a optic if u put 1 on

[@SGT1911]

👍

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

I've been carrying a Staccato P (irons & steel frame) since May. I added Talon Grips & they feel a little more aggressive than the Prodigy's that I handled at my lgs. My preference of these 2 guns is obvious, but we all benefit from the Prodigy being in the market.

[@SGT1911]

True gunfighter. competition make better quality and better price's

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

100%. We are all gonna be winners here.

[@k1ngdomdefense404]

What brand of Talon Grips did you use for your P?

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

@@k1ngdomdefense404 Granulate-Black.

[@k1ngdomdefense]

@@TheGunfighter45acp Thanks

[@spencerwarren9219]

Once prod 4.25 breaks in no more hang up on disconnector. Mine went away around 200 rounds. As far as front sight size. I changed my prodigy out with dawson perssion fiber optic red. They are knows for the brightest. Cost 5 bucks. Whe. You install melt front end a d then pull back into sight. You can make your dot as big as you want it. Mine is about a 6 moa now.

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching

[@Jobie86]

Sarge: A couple of more things to note: 1.Prodigy has a loaded chamber hole that will fog an optic if shot seriously at the range. Not necessary. 2. The Prodigy uses quite a few MIM parts. I am sure they are fine but you will not find these in the C2. In no way is this a "Staccato Killer". Thanks for a great video.

[@SGT1911]

We agree. Not a Staccato killer. I wonder who coined that term? Springfield marketing?

[@todddunham2790]

Thank you for a truly great, honest review 👏 👍

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching Todd. I appreciate it

[@jeremybouteller7143]

I’ve got the Emissary and the slide hangs up on the disconnector also. Must be a Springfield thing. It drives me crazy

[@SGT1911]

It will get better with wear. Thanks for watching

[@fauxchung3189]

Put a 500 rounds thru it and use Wilson Combat mags. It’s worked wonders for all my 2011.

[@SGT1911]

@@fauxchung3189 I am not having any problems

[@duranteh.4287]

i would suggest having a tripod to film and just editing the zoom in part but love the videos still just my two cents man

[@SGT1911]

We are rookies. Getting better a little at a time. I spend all my money on guns. We do not have any sponsors or anything. You get unbiased opinion this way. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. We wil work on the the videos.

[@duranteh.4287]

@@SGT1911 the videos are great love the honestly on them.. really why i prefer watching your vid than most haha

[@SGT1911]

@@duranteh.4287 thank you. I appreciate it.

[@t.shaver9533]

Excellent video.

[@SGT1911]

Thank you very much! Thanks for watching

[@gerardovega2453]

Officer Greg sent me here for to see a good comparison video and I subscribed! Lol

[@SGT1911]

Hey man welcome. OG is an awesome dude. Thanks for the sub and thanks for watching

[@johnconner8273]

I absolutely love my C2. Swapped in a "P" Grip Module, Added an EoTech EFLX, TRL-1HL, and 2-17 rd/3- 21 rd mags. The C2 is as solid out to 120yds as MY XC. Also, being a Staccato customer has cool perks. I received a swag box with hat, stickers, and 368 patches. I didnt order any of this. It was as if Santa dropped by. None of the swag was followup sales, it was just the company going above and beyond. I own some incredible custom Sigs and CZ 75s. NEVER got free swag from anyone but Sig-Guy. or Cajun Gun Works. I will add, MY Grouping with an XC is better than that of my Atlas Athena, a $6k gun. At $4200, the XC will actually be the unfair advantage in your range bag. Polymer, Striker Fire Firearms SUCK btw.

[@SGT1911]

People don't get it about the Staccatos and i can only think it is because they don't have one. Amazing handguns. The Wilson EDC is a winner as well.

[@gabrielpark8910]

want to get rid of that c2 grip? been looking for one for awhile haha

[@SGT1911]

@@gabrielpark8910 sorry. I am keeping it

[@fredgoodrum]

What is the Staccato round count?

[@SGT1911]

after this demo, still at 100 or just under. i never shoot it.

[@johncoleman2495]

I'd like to start with thanks for another honest informative video. That said, I've really got no skin in the game. The Staccato is a beautifully made pistol. It looks and feels the part. And although I've yet to shoot one I expect it will perform as good as it looks. I don't however believe it's a $2400 pistol. I think the Springfield comes out on top in the value department. The few shortcomings you mention are pretty minor. Especially the sights! The first thing I do to any 1911 I buy(especially those with hi-viz sights) is toss the factory sights in favor of a set of Dawson Precision Novak style 3 white dot sights. The break in required for a mass produced 1911 has never bothered me either. I would never carry a gun I hadn't put in excess of 1500 rounds through. I just feel it's necessary to get that familiarity and confidence in both the firearms ability and mine to be proficient with it. What I would love to see here is a revisit on the subject with a Bull Armory thrown in the mix! I bought an SAS II ultralight shortly after James Reeves reviewed it and can't begin to tell you how impressed I am with it to this day! I'd pick it over either of these by a mile!

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for the comment. I appreciate the input. Thanks for watching

[@williammatthews2948]

I may have to get a Springfield Prodigy.

[@SGT1911]

I agree. Double stack hooah

[@JADudley]

Thanks for the review. I plan to get the prodigy however I am a Springfield fanboy

[@SGT1911]

I like most every springfield. Shoot safe

[@jblcrown100]

Are you able to do a staccato vs Bul armory SAS II tac

[@SGT1911]

I don't have a bull.

[@maxfit68906]

I own both. And I can tell you this, the BA has a better trigger than the Staccato. Fit and finish is equivalent to if not better. Deadly accurate. Not to mention I got the BA for $1900 which is approximately $600 cheaper than the Staccato. Truth be told, I’m selling my Staccato and adding the BA SAS II Tac 5 inch to the collection.

[@jblcrown100]

@@SGT1911 I have both Bul armory SAS UL 3.25 comp and the Bul armory SAS II tac comp 4.25 . Can I send you my Bul armory SAS II tac comp for review.

[@lonewolf6169]

@@jblcrown100 do it!! this is men is bery honest and beri professional of his videos!! no talk much other thinks during the view or comparison! send him both!

[@talksportsplustv406]

🔥 love your channel.

[@SGT1911]

Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thanks for watching

[@patrickgjorven7832]

I think that's the main thing people forget. The gun typically runs better and shoots better when it gets polished! Best way to do that is to shoot it! A lot!

[@SGT1911]

RIGHT ON Bro. SHOOT

[@wehrewulf]

Weird.

[@southeast78]

Thank you, sir

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching

[@michaell397]

SGT, the Springfield has taller sights because he gun comes with the optics plate. when he Staccato is ordered with the Dawson optics plate system on the Staccato it too has the taller sights. ;

[@SGT1911]

Thanks

[@TietLung]

Wish my local shops had one to see touch feel. I've held the steel frame double stacks before and they felt like crap in hand. Curious how the Springfield feels in hand as compared to a traditional single stack 1911

[@SGT1911]

Much nicer. Not HUGE. But, yeah, you need to hold it. It's not a cheap pistol

[@harrydexter8426]

A couple things I forgot to mention. Springfield Armory uses forged frames & slides. That is good for durability. However, the MIM parts are less desirable!👍😊🇺🇸

[@SGT1911]

less desirable, yes, but still not plastic

[@freedmansjournal]

The 4.25 inch version seems to have less issues based on all the reviews I've seen.

[@SGT1911]

I am hearing that. Mine is fine

[@richardadkins3602]

I've got both too don't think it's a staccato killer it's simply staccato is hand fitted and the prodigy is a production gun no extra hand or personal attention to each gun the staccato . I think main difference between the two is about 1.500.00

[@SGT1911]

well said

[@-kepha8828]

New at this. Can someone explain the difference beteen a 1911 to a 2011?

[@SGT1911]

1911 is a single stack, a 2011 is a double stack 1911.

[@-kepha8828]

@@SGT1911 thank you

[@SGT1911]

@@-kepha8828 👍

[@dannywilcoxen]

Just got mine in 4.25. Only 100 rounds so far but absolutely no failures whatsoever. Cleaned and oil it beforehand. Love it. Soft shooter.

[@SGT1911]

Just goes to prove many on the .net talk crap. Thanks for sharing

[@mossyoak737]

production gun v hand fitted, definitely going to be differences. I should have bought a staccato. I couldn't get 5rnds through my prodigy. Been at Springfield for almost 3 weeks now. Hopefully its functional when I get it back.

[@SGT1911]

It will. The Springfield just needs to be polished. Thanks for watching

[@T30-z5w]

I have 2 C2s. One optics and the other irons. Never, ever malfunctioned and they shoot dot sized groups at 25 yards for me. BTW the sights on the C2 Duo stick up high too unlike the regular C2 that you’re showing. The SA looks like a good range gun but with the steel frame I wouldn’t carry it. My C2s are lighter and despite that very soft shooting especially compared to my LW Dan Wesson Vigil 45 ACP which is my real favorite.

[@SGT1911]

I like my guardian over my other DW. But, I don't have a single one I don't like

[@CodeNameHardhat78]

I bought a Prodigy and I don't have too many rounds through it. Probably less than 300. I've recently shot it pretty cold weather. Around 15 degrees (F). It did have a couple of failure to feeds. But my theory is the barrel and breach heat up at a different rate than the slide and with the tolerances being so tight, it causes more drag. Also, I've heard they need about 1000 rounds to break in. Price was a deciding factor for me but also that it is optic ready even if I did have to buy the correct base plate for my optic. I like it. But I wouldn't bet my life on it.

[@SGT1911]

It just needs to be fired. Oil it snd run it again, then some more. It Is normal

[@RobWalters-w7x]

This is my dream gun, one that is actually affordable for a 1911/2011 I’m saving and hopefully can get it under 1300

[@SGT1911]

Buy used if needed

[@regularguy90]

I’m gonna go ahead and get the prodigy. I hear a lot of people talking trash on it, but not one of them owns the pistol or even shot it. I think this pistol is worth the try.

[@JC-cv3up]

Mine worked great but I installed a 12# recoil spring before shooting for the first time on the 5” barrel.

[@2Aknight762]

Buy the 4.25 inch model. The 5 inch models are definitely having more problems. My 4.25 is now running good after the first 200 rounds.

[@SGT1911]

exactly

[@coyotes5504]

Out the box 37 rounds rapid fire, had no issues yet in my 4.25. I know round count is low but right out the box it ran

[@SGT1911]

@@coyotes5504 I get it Coyote. Way too many people talking crap they know nothing about. This is a metal 1911 style handgun. The parts need to wear together. The more you shoot it the better it will get. It will never be a hand finished 1911 but it is not sold as one. Glad it is running fine. Shoot safe and thanks for watching

[@netwt449]

Nice review & comparo… less wt. is a bign. THX!

[@SGT1911]

Thanks for watching

[@eddiearchuleta615]

The sights are higher on the Springfield because if the optic cut cowitness

[@SGT1911]

I know. With no optic

[@patrickrobare]

You should rate them both against the rock island version its like the tac ultra high cap. My buddy had one a year or two back and loved it

[@SGT1911]

I have a video on here of the RI and both of these are superior to the RI

[@2ndamendment115]

Everyone cried about staccato “prices” now all of a sudden the praise them because of hand fitting and non MIM parts lol .

[@SGT1911]

You get what you pay for

[@joeh14]

You must have a different c2 than I have. Mine is a tool less takedown. I line up the slide stop with little notch and push it through an pull the slide forward and off the frame being sure capture the recoil spring.

[@SGT1911]

The tool sticks in the rod?

[@joeh14]

@@SGT1911you must be referring to the Prodigy. Except the lack of a barrel bushing my C2 disassembles the same as most 1911’s. There isn’t any tool that sticks in the end.

[@SGT1911]

@joeh14 not in the guide rod.? I don't have it in front of me, and it has been months. I have so many I woukd have to look

[@joeh14]

@@SGT1911must be the CS, there’s a little pin by the barrel link.

[@SGT1911]

@@joeh14 I can get it next time and look. Thanks

[@johnconner8273]

Sarge, check that grip, If you bury that Dove Tail where there is a slight skin indent inbetween your Thumb and index finger, right thumb OVER the flip safety, left thubm forward on the frame below the slide. Recoilo impulse is cut in half. Your grip is awesome for a 1911 though. I MOST DEFINITELY learn from you, but just wanted to drop the Staccato grip secret.

[@SGT1911]

Thanks Bro. I will look at it