SH 28 P3 VS Dynamite 28 Big red. what's the difference?

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@blakelove4058
@blakelove4058 2 жыл бұрын
Good info... Just purchased 2 of the Big Red Mach .28 from Horizon for $156 and some change for each..
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! They are about 240$ each here
@davelowets
@davelowets 3 ай бұрын
1:52.. The combustion chamber (or "burn room") is MUCH smaller in the P3 engine head button. That's where the compression increase for the 0% nitro came from.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 3 ай бұрын
It was also machined by the previous owner who was running the same stuff and he was experimenting but yes you are right
@ShadowOppsRC
@ShadowOppsRC 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! I thought so cause got a used big red that all the internals are junk but block is good. Makes since because dynamite is a brand of sh.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! I love how interchangeable these engines are regardless of what people think about the company they're still really good that they've done that
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 I've always had good luck with the higher end SH engines. They're usually pretty strong too. The stock SH B-01 in my ages old G.S. Storm buggy was a RIPPER once I ported and polished the block, crank, and rod. It kept right up with some VERY expensive engines, and embarrassed a few guys who had those big buck motors. 😁 It lasted a HELL of a long time too.
@cyclonerc1625
@cyclonerc1625 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison vid Thank's for Sharing Chef Bug 🍻💯✌
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Your very welcome!
@CtrlAltFumble
@CtrlAltFumble 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Mach2 parts are really expensive in here!
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Same almost as much as the engine itself.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
A-main has the 8-port Piston&Sleeve sets for $28.99 and $2.99 shipping. In stock right now. Put it in your SH P3, or your Big Red Mach 2, and enjoy the extra power.
@solitaryclusterofneurons598
@solitaryclusterofneurons598 7 ай бұрын
@@davelowets Do you by any chance know if the SH 28-8 piston and sleeve will fit a Losi Mach 427? Thanks
@josephsaucedo8691
@josephsaucedo8691 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I was just talking about this there a couple different things from different company will fit and interchange lrp a sh28 p3 120$ the. big red over150$+ yup a mian the sh28 upgrade as well 👌👍✌️💯🍻🏎️
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to be able to have the options to mix and match parts
@josephsaucedo8691
@josephsaucedo8691 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 yes it is if there was a spec chart or master book I could imagine some of the engine that could be made from parts if a two stroke engine builder was able to pick and choose there parts for a build similar to how full size engine are made. I'm Glade you made this video at least now it a start of a file for people to go on burn nitro have a great one till the next one 👌👍✌️💯🍻🏎️
@redblue40rc33
@redblue40rc33 Жыл бұрын
4:54 had me laughing😅😅😅😅😅😅
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it haha 🍻💯
@gamingtheorigin6639
@gamingtheorigin6639 2 жыл бұрын
sweet i am Canadian to
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Nice where at?
@gamingtheorigin6639
@gamingtheorigin6639 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 bc Fraser Vally
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamingtheorigin6639 far out! I'm in Surrey lol
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
I'm almost Canadian... I live in Minnesota right up by the border. 🤷🏻 Does that count? 🤔
@Outcazt_Fishing
@Outcazt_Fishing 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a big reed today in the mail lol gonna put it in my lst2
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great combination!
@revtech2917
@revtech2917 Жыл бұрын
You should make a video swapping the Big Red piston/sleeve into the SH to see how it runs.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
It will run the same as a big red haha it's already been done before as a rebuild upgrade for the SH P3. Just no video about it that i can find. You probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference on video. But I will see what I can do
@revtech2917
@revtech2917 Жыл бұрын
You should make a video on it. Since nobody has done it on video before, it would make for some good content.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
@@revtech2917 I will do it at some point or another. but you gonna keep in mind the parts cost here is really expensive this big red is completely worn out and doesn't run anymore otherwise I'd be using it. and the piston and sleeve replacement cost $200 here so I really don't feel like spending that just to make a video unless I can find one cheap enough. KZbin doesn't pay me a dime but I will see if I can put something together.
@davelowets
@davelowets 3 ай бұрын
Put an SH .28 Pro 8-port piston and sleeve in it.... I've bought them for $30 online.
@Rc_Revo-Nitro_Andalucia
@Rc_Revo-Nitro_Andalucia 9 ай бұрын
Hello, I was wondering if the Lrp Z28R spec 4 also shares spare parts with the Dynamite big Red? I live in spain and it more easy buy lrp engines.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 8 ай бұрын
Yes the LRP 28 and Dynamite big red are basically the same engine
@Rc_Revo-Nitro_Andalucia
@Rc_Revo-Nitro_Andalucia 8 ай бұрын
Thank you friend, you have made my day happy!!
@Drumbone71
@Drumbone71 6 ай бұрын
So the 454 is interchangeable with .28 SH? What about Dynamite… I need pull start assembly parts….
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 6 ай бұрын
Losi 350/454 dynamite big red SH 28P3 P6 P8 all the same starter parts 😎
@Drumbone71
@Drumbone71 6 ай бұрын
@@thebug4046 Awesome. Thank you Sir!
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 6 ай бұрын
@@Drumbone71 no worries buds
@hpiedsavageed7608
@hpiedsavageed7608 2 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with sh engines! I run the black head .28 p3 on my savage and it runs flawless! I do miss my big red tho. Can't wait for more vids! Kbn!
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words man I appreciate it and yeah they are definitely a good engine but now that you know the upgrade secret to it you can do that if he confined that that sleeve kit available! KBN! 💪🏼💥💯
@hpiedsavageed7608
@hpiedsavageed7608 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 yes sir! ;)
@bingcringing
@bingcringing 2 жыл бұрын
How was the big red? Was considering getting one but I've heard they don't hold a pinch for too long
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
@@bingcringing Both of mine have been fine for a few gallons each so far... 🤷🏻
@joadams597
@joadams597 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always
@fabianv.2239
@fabianv.2239 2 жыл бұрын
Great content man.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@kickassneilum
@kickassneilum 2 ай бұрын
Any chance you could drop a big red sleeve and piston in a Mach 427? Im in desperate need of a piston/sleeve for my losi 427 and that sleeve looks almost identical
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not. I tried it not long ago since I have a blown up 427 myself. The big red sleeve is physically to big to fit the block.
@kickassneilum
@kickassneilum 2 ай бұрын
@@thebug4046 crap i was afraid of that. Thank you!!
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 ай бұрын
@@kickassneilum What's up with yours is it physically damaged or just worn out? because you can send it away to have it pinched
@asproductions6400
@asproductions6400 4 ай бұрын
Is the “big red” and just the standard dynamite .28 the same thing or is the big red the performance version
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 4 ай бұрын
The dynamite 28RTR is a force 28R dressed as a dynamite the BIG RED is a SH 28P6
@bryanbaker6767
@bryanbaker6767 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the sh-28 8p piston/ sleeve will fit the sh28 3p engine.... if you happen to come across these two engines you might want to try it out
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are right. And the p8 is hard to find for whatever reason but damn good power house!
@Bigdog302V8
@Bigdog302V8 Жыл бұрын
A Main has the SH .28 8 port piston and sleeve on back order but they are selling these for under 30.00 American dollars! that is a steal if you want to hop up a Dynamite Big Red or a SH 3 port .28. they all have the same bore and stroke. I Think a Dynamite 053 pipe would be a great match for these .28-8 port combos.
@bryanbaker6767
@bryanbaker6767 Жыл бұрын
@@Bigdog302V8 yes indeed that's the place to get sh parts... when they wear in stock I was stupid and didn't pick one up next time I had the money I'd checked and they were on backorder
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
$28.99 at A-Main, in stock now.... $2.99 shipping. I just ordered 2 of them for my Big Reds. 🤘 Edit: Bryan Baker, get goin and get one now, don't be stupid again... 😜
@davelowets
@davelowets 3 ай бұрын
And yes they DO fit, and yes they DO increase power and RPMs in a Big Red.... I run an 086 pipe on my 1/8 scale buggy with the Big Red and 8-port piston and sleeve. The thing screams
@williecastellanos6544
@williecastellanos6544 Жыл бұрын
I know this may seem like a dumb question but I’m sort of new to this stuff, but I’m considering rebuilding my 3.3 on my tmaxx a whole motor refresh with OS 11k carb new bearings est, or should I or exactly can I do big block conversion? What do you think ?
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
The big block tmaxx kits are no longer available. It's also a big pain in the ass to do it and you have to completely change and upgrade everything witch gets really expensive and annoying.
@williecastellanos6544
@williecastellanos6544 Жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 ok cool thank you !!
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
@@williecastellanos6544 no worries and if you can get a decent pipe like a Rick Ritter pipe if he has any left the 3.3s run great on those. I made a video about how to get one I also have video on what they sound like to! Not sure how many he has left. But the os 11k carbs are awesome on the 3.3 tunes so good it's a completely different engine after
@kickassneilum
@kickassneilum 2 ай бұрын
Whats the advantages to running 0% nitro? Why would you want to?
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 ай бұрын
Rc fuel is 100$ a gallon here and now no longer sold in my area so we have no choice. Advantage? None
@ofnaguycarlwatts8602
@ofnaguycarlwatts8602 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video brother!
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mang
@ofnaguycarlwatts8602
@ofnaguycarlwatts8602 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 hey if you really want to blow people's mind.The .28 and .32 ofna force engines are the SH based engine.i took a .32 O.F. engine crankshaft and put it in A dynamite.28 and that changed the timing for it to be like a factory modified crankshaft!!
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
@@ofnaguycarlwatts8602 I'm very surprised that the windows in the cranks were even any different between the 2 engines to begin with. The Force engines are a lower line of SH engines, and they usually use as many of the same parts as possible between the various different engine models.
@ofnaguycarlwatts8602
@ofnaguycarlwatts8602 Жыл бұрын
@@davelowets I guess a better way to say it the Ofna Force.32 has a bigger gas window in crank than .28 Ofna engine So therefore if you put a .32 crankshaft in a .28 it's a lighter crankshaft and changes the timing so you could also put it a .28 dynamite engine as well .hope that helps someone. Ofna Guy
@williamoleary9330
@williamoleary9330 2 жыл бұрын
So I’m interested in maybe dropping one of these into either my LST or LST 2. The original engines in both are running great so maybe it will be a temporary upgrade deal. Can either of these work with a spin start? I hate pull starts so I’d only upgrade if either one of these could have a spin start mounted to it. Please let me know at your earliest convenience. Thanks
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there is some kind of electric starter for it. But whatever you do do not try to start it with a drill on the starter shaft without the pull starter body because the shaft will pop out and it will smash the crank shaft and destroy the engine
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
@@joecole2318 no worries!
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
The Big Red engine has BOTH a pull start AND a roto-start in the same back housing. Use which ever one you want.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
The Big Red in the USA is pretty much $169 everywhere.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
Just under 300 here
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 Damn! That blows...
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
@@davelowets welcome to Canada rip off land lol
@a2rc
@a2rc 2 жыл бұрын
Are both head buttons standard or is the big Red turbo? Thx for the Vid Bug 🔥💪🏻
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing up that point i forgot. but no they are both standard plug heads
@corymitchell2720
@corymitchell2720 11 ай бұрын
Curious is it Chrome or is it nikasil. I only ask because I run a dynamite 0.28 Big Red in my vintage losi LST 2 and it's pretty fast but I'd like to know a little more about it as I know a lot about two strokes and a lot about two stroke performance I know it's a different but there's a lot of similarities so if you could let me know I'd appreciate it and if you know of any pop-up parts for the dynamite 28 or parts from more performance-oriented engines it would fit and get a little more power out of it I would be much appreciated if you could let me know thank you or anybody in the comment for that matter. Everybody out there have a good day
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 11 ай бұрын
Hey man so ABC is aluminum brass chrome 98% of these engines are chrome plating a lot of older stuff is nickel plated witch required extra castor oil for its film strength and piston sealing abilitys as for performance parts? The SH 28P8 piston and sleeve is and 8 port witch will replace your 6 port sleeve and aside from pipes and fuel that's about it for that engine performance wise. 🤘🏻💯🍻
@sammiller8497
@sammiller8497 2 жыл бұрын
The sh .21 have abn sleeves as well l have two of them would like to upgrade them. Also l just ordered an sh .18 for my rc10 gt don't know what sleeve is in it. Yet , thanks for your videos I've learned a lot from you over the years
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watchin! And someone told me the 18 was upgraded to the ABC set but I'm not sure. As for the 21? Try find a dynamite 21 piston and sleeve might just get lucky
@a2rc
@a2rc 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 Yep the SH18does come with an ABC sleeve now (at least the black head Slide carb version) but, I assume both black and blue versions are the same. I wish someone made an aftermarket head for for them.
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
@@a2rc Yeah they must have just recently done that because all the ones that I have bought over the years or all nickel plated both blue or black models with the slide carbs.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
The SH B-O1 .21 that came in my G.S. Storm buggy about 25 years old had an A.B.C. sleeve in it... 🤷🏻
@Hardy_boy1
@Hardy_boy1 Жыл бұрын
Is this the same for .21?
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
The 21rtr is different than the SH 21 as long as it's a SH type dynamite
@Hardy_boy1
@Hardy_boy1 Жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 right on
@corymitchell2720
@corymitchell2720 11 ай бұрын
Okay I guess I should have commented before I finished listening to your sleeve! I'm guessing that you're saying that the one that is nickel I don't know I guess nickel must be the same as micron or Nichole not nitrome I don't know do they also call it micron anyway is nickel the same as nikasil if so then I understand that my dynamite has the brass and chrome cylinder finish and outer finish with brat thank you again
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 11 ай бұрын
No worries buds and Nikasill is a brand name it's a little different than the old nickel plating in the rc cars witch is really soft and you can scratch it pretty easily compared to Nikasil witch is really hard and you can't scratch it unless something really bad happens hahaha
@samsonight2721
@samsonight2721 2 жыл бұрын
Abn why is this even a thing anymore like really
@thebug4046
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
It's cheaper and faster It's to produce and depending on where you live and your environmental standards a lot less toxic than chromium plating which is often quite nasty but it also makes for an engine that doesn't last as long but for the most part and today's dayne age cheap cheap cheap cheap
@samsonight2721
@samsonight2721 2 жыл бұрын
I just pick up an old megatech plane kit ND very surprised how many plane engines are abn constructed its sad disappointment
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Garbage crap... Many O.S. engines used to use the A.B.N. sleeves also. Cheaper to make is what it's all about. There are no advantages to an A.B.N. liner.
@samsonight2721
@samsonight2721 Жыл бұрын
@@davelowets and on top of abn soft metal usually the sleeves are loose fit to the block so they stretch easily making it ware faster
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
@@samsonight2721 Yep. The Chrome in an A.B.C. liner is much tougher, and can take wear much more slowely.
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