WOW this sword was SO disappointing

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Shadiversity

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@WouterVerbruggen
@WouterVerbruggen 2 күн бұрын
Make sure to delete Honey before going to the affiliate link so they cant steal Shads commision!
@CrustaceousB
@CrustaceousB 2 күн бұрын
It is absolutely wild it took this long for honey to get caught in this scam. They've been doing this pretty much free of criticism for damn near a decade
@xxXXRAPXXxx
@xxXXRAPXXxx 2 күн бұрын
@@CrustaceousB Linus known this for years but did not notify anyone. Shows how trustworthy he is really.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 2 күн бұрын
@@CrustaceousB bro you need to realise how gullible and foolish the average person is. I immediately recognised that these sponsors were all scams years before they get exposed. They’re obvious. But the average person?
@carlosAlvarez-gf5ef
@carlosAlvarez-gf5ef 2 күн бұрын
100% most people will download and never think of it again
@Davidcharrod
@Davidcharrod 2 күн бұрын
I read the fine print on honey. It was definitely not worth it after reading 🤣
@xxDev5000xx
@xxDev5000xx 2 күн бұрын
What i can appreciate is that even though there is an affiliate link you guys were honest..that doesnt happen often on youtube keep it up guys
@dlatrexswords
@dlatrexswords 2 күн бұрын
Hey Tyranth and Shad, a few points to help with the history of these swords. Yes this is reasonably representative of a peidao (佩刀) or 'waist sabre' from the Ming Dynasty. Compared to Japan which has huge conservation in design philosophy on it's swords, China has a tremendous level of variation in fittings and shapes, especially across the dynastic periods. There are times when both China and Japan engaged in cultural exchange both officially and unofficially. The Ming period showed large numbers of Japanese blades being purchased by the Ming court, as well as captured due to engagements with coastal Japanese pirates. These spawned a variety of different types of Dao that use Japanese style blades, from small single handed types, up to big two handers, all of which blend a mixture of Japanese and Chinese aesthetics. That said, this is not one of those examples: the rayskin underneath the grip has been used in Chinese sword decorations since at least the Han dynasty. The angular style of fittings is called Fangshi (方式) and is more common during the Ming and eventually falls out of favor in the Qing. The grip wrap is done in ming style (distinct from the Itomaki we see on a japanese tsuka), and the arabesque metal work is all common for Ming aesthetic. The one hilt element that might be Japanese inspired is the round style disc guard: it is unclear exactly when they became common on Dao again (having previously been a cross under the Mongol Yuan Dynasty) and it is possible that the use of the round Hushou Pan is taken from the Japanese Tsuba. The 'habaki' is a Tunkou (吞口) , and comes from Central Asia and is found on Chinese designs before the Song Dynasty, but more consistently after the Mongol invasion. The ferrules are called daoba shu (刀把束) and can be angular, but should not be painful to the touch. The blade is in the style of either a yanlingdao (雁翎刀) goose feather sabre or liuyedao (柳葉刀) willow leaf sabre, depending on its curvature which is hard to see from the video; the Liuyedao would have been more common in the Ming. Sorry to hear this example was a bit rough in its hilt construction but from an aesthetics point of view this was very faithful to a Chinese waist sabre from mid Ming Dynasty.
@thescholar-general5975
@thescholar-general5975 2 күн бұрын
👆All of the above! Most well made Chinese dao should be like a nice messer. Unfortunately, this one doesn’t come close.
@QseftJohn
@QseftJohn 2 күн бұрын
To add on you your comment, I own a Wo Yao Dao from LK Chen and the biggest gripes they have for the handle design is historically accurate. China kept this handle design for centuries. I personally hate the rectangular shape of the hilt. Even with the wrap I can feel hot spots forming on my hand after a few swings. I feel like I need to do physical conditioning just so I can comfortably swing the sword. I don't have this problem with any of my other swords. China's earlier swords are very comfortable to use so I would be interested in know why they changed the design to something that has so many sharp angles on the handle. They must have liked it, since this general handle design stuck around for at lease 4 centuries.
@ccelik97
@ccelik97 2 күн бұрын
​@@QseftJohn I think the overall reason why the handle design/material/construction changed that way is the gloves & gauntlets getting more and more common, so much so that they could be conceivably used everyday, outdoors. Also, remember: "China" is a seriously large place overall, with the climate wildly varying from one place to the next, right past "some mountains" or stuff like that. So, I think having at least a partial protection for the palm/fingers could very easily justify shifting the priorities from the sword kinds of larger blades' handles' "comfort" to the more streamlined, "you grab this, and you cut with this; it's the same old shit" utilitarian approaches.
@ryanprime381
@ryanprime381 2 күн бұрын
@@QseftJohn Wo Dao actually meant Japanese dao so a Kanata with Wo meaning Japanese . For the sharp handle, I think this is due to the dao shad had seems to be more focus on esthetic than function as to me it looks a bit Chinese fantasy themed.
@thescholar-general5975
@thescholar-general5975 2 күн бұрын
@ I have handled a few of LK Chen’s dao and that one is by far the worst of the angular grips that he produces in terms of comfort.
@TheStrykerProject
@TheStrykerProject 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely love and appreciate that you guys do not hold back with your reviews...brutally honest. I realized that you guys are potentially losing money by being so honest. Even with an affiliate link, your honesty is very likely going to get you zero clicks for this sword. I appreciate these reviews so much that I'm becoming a member to help keep them coming.
@sean5051
@sean5051 2 күн бұрын
1:40 The bird breaking the silence is golden. I'm glad you left that in there.
@VainerCactus0
@VainerCactus0 2 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@ArynosValinir
@ArynosValinir 2 күн бұрын
Impeccable cosmic timing.
@durandol
@durandol Күн бұрын
Had some real Ed Edd n Eddy energy.
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 16 сағат бұрын
I was wondering what Shad was laughing at.😅
@MephiticMiasma
@MephiticMiasma 2 күн бұрын
blade steel type: damascus steel ....feeling like a temu listing at that point
@Peak_Aussieman
@Peak_Aussieman 2 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@Athanatoi
@Athanatoi 2 күн бұрын
What is temu listing?
@ritalinSolution
@ritalinSolution 2 күн бұрын
High Carbon Chinesium
@nikoladd
@nikoladd 2 күн бұрын
100% original lookalike.
@beowulfsrevenge4369
@beowulfsrevenge4369 2 күн бұрын
​@Athanatoi Temu is like Wish it's nearly all really cheaply made products for very, very low prices.
@daywither927
@daywither927 2 күн бұрын
Two australians turn a sword into a boomerang
@LamunesADV
@LamunesADV Күн бұрын
Are you saying they reversed the cultural appropriation??
@kellykilpatrick8363
@kellykilpatrick8363 2 күн бұрын
Glad to see the videos in my feed again. Missed you guys!
@matthewdbickel
@matthewdbickel 2 күн бұрын
You guys put a ton of effort into these daily videos! Kudos! Love this!
@m.h.w.weckseler
@m.h.w.weckseler 2 күн бұрын
There goes another supplier you never see again :( But i do really like that you simply tell it like it is, even when knowing it will upset the suppliers.
@mustangmckraken1150
@mustangmckraken1150 2 күн бұрын
Then don't hand people garbage and expect a good review lol
@Marcus_Postma
@Marcus_Postma 2 күн бұрын
From what I understand, it's a company linked with scams. So they're probably trying to get some initial people with the link. That being said, I have no personal history with this company, and thus everything is a bit hearsay.
@Marcus_Postma
@Marcus_Postma 2 күн бұрын
@unnamed47 honey is the one I heard about, never heard anything about the other 2. And since my information is all from secondhand sources, it should be taken with a grain of salt. I would advise anyone looking to make large purchases to look into any company they are purchasing from.
@legend-killa
@legend-killa Күн бұрын
​@@Marcus_Postmayeah i was 1 click away from buying a Darksword Armory Anduril for $700 but after further research I'm glad I did not
@nickbob2003
@nickbob2003 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate that even though going through and seeing the handle construction was supposed to be members only content that you guys shared your findings since they were relevant to the review.
@trathanstargazer6421
@trathanstargazer6421 2 күн бұрын
Damn, it looked decently nice too. It would make for a decent wall hanger were it not so expensive!
@asolanara
@asolanara 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for your honest reviews on these swords. Even when you have an affiliant link and were asked to review the sword, you remained honest, and I appreciate that
@LuxFerre4242
@LuxFerre4242 2 күн бұрын
"Disappointing" is definitely the right word. It *looks* so good, and it's let down by the cheap part.
@caexlevethix6210
@caexlevethix6210 2 күн бұрын
what should you do with the blade on the "surviving sword"? A: affix it to a garden gnome and have it guard the castle....
@matohibiki
@matohibiki 2 күн бұрын
Wait, do they have gnomes in the Shadlands?
@HZilong
@HZilong 2 күн бұрын
This might have been fine as a 100-150 wall hanger or beater. Nearly 700 dollars? This quality is not acceptable.
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 2 күн бұрын
Even a $100 - 150 is too good for this mess, $5 or .10 cents *would* be the more appropriate price. Heck even a single penny for this is being generous.
@Manco65
@Manco65 2 күн бұрын
Yeah reminds me of what you'd occasionally find in the malls in the early 80's when I was a kid in "oriental" import shops reeking of cheap incense and over priced ornamental garbage.
@sihilius
@sihilius 2 күн бұрын
My 150 bug sharpened stage fighter made by arms&armor (czechk republic, not the expensive one) could chop through that whole damn beam without having any issues. Just for reference what can be done and how bad the thing in this video is.
@markg1537
@markg1537 22 сағат бұрын
I feel like 700 for a high end historical replica, that isn't sharp, and is meant basically as a wall hanger is okay. But I feel like durability/construction still should be solid.
@sihilius
@sihilius 19 сағат бұрын
@@markg1537 High End? 700 Bugs? Historical Replica? Wall Hanger? Solid Construction? Damn, so many words that don't fit with each other all.
@William1-s8n
@William1-s8n 2 күн бұрын
FOR THE ALGORITHM
@maxxcarver5502
@maxxcarver5502 2 күн бұрын
For the Algorithm!
@beegirlkp
@beegirlkp 2 күн бұрын
Definitely working because I haven’t seen Shad in my feed for quite a while. 😂
@William1-s8n
@William1-s8n 2 күн бұрын
@beegirlkp I see it everytime lol
@GojiraOfFuyuki
@GojiraOfFuyuki 2 күн бұрын
For the Algorithm!
@yellowemerald9119
@yellowemerald9119 2 күн бұрын
Algorithm 🤖🤖🤖
@morrigan908
@morrigan908 2 күн бұрын
Glad to see you showing up in my feed more recently! Here's one for the powers-that-be!
@rustysreality1091
@rustysreality1091 2 күн бұрын
I like this format for testing different blades. I would recommend a digital layover or short screen cut for the scores/comparisons. 19:17 Nobody can see the blade information. This would be very helpful, and I believe helpful to the sword community as a whole. So we know if we are getting shafted when purchasing "what should be" some decent blades. Great Video.
@twotail612
@twotail612 2 күн бұрын
Says a lot about a review channel when they're willing to be critical of the stuff their sent.
@robertjensen1438
@robertjensen1438 2 күн бұрын
It was a sad and disappointing day when I discovered my universal remote control did not, in fact, control the universe. Not even remotely.
@dracon501
@dracon501 2 күн бұрын
Damascus means a miss match of whatever steel we had all thrown together.
@The_Yukki
@The_Yukki 2 күн бұрын
Alas it has become a buzzword in anything metalworking.
@andrewstrongman305
@andrewstrongman305 2 күн бұрын
So it's essentially a really expensive wall-hanger.
@Photomongo
@Photomongo Күн бұрын
Based on the handle decorations alone, Flea Market vendors have gone big leagues apparently.
@Alakrit
@Alakrit 2 күн бұрын
I dont usually watch the sword reviews, but I think ill come back to them. This was a good video and I look forward to the members only one. For the algorithm!
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 2 күн бұрын
I think this is the perfect sword for the Kingdom of Elbonia.
@edmundr2167
@edmundr2167 2 күн бұрын
Rare Forgotten Weapons Shadiversity crossover
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 2 күн бұрын
Kingdom of Elbonia employs the classic warfare. Cheaper and proven 700 years ago.
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 2 күн бұрын
Nah, you have to not be accused as a traitor. Must be a good idea at the time. I'd suggest they have to be multi functional weapons for their economy, like a kopesh or sickle etc. 'Easier training for the peasants' or shortswords 'so more can defend themselves' though these could backfire. Something too expensive is usually best, but not damascus I think that's too obvious. Stainless steel would be good 'to reduce maintenance' relying on chromium. Folded steel isn't bad due to the labour costs. Maybe Odachi as they require joining steel & super expensive & awful as a general weapon. Lantern shields etc are where you get more elbonian potential 'then they can fight at night! And stay warm!' Definitely war elephants.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 2 күн бұрын
​​@@mandowarrior123 I agree with your choices , it definitely will bankrupt and.or hamper the military of a middle-age Elbonia.👍🏻
@TheRabbi563
@TheRabbi563 2 күн бұрын
😂😂Get Catbert on this!!
@pentadeuce1086
@pentadeuce1086 2 күн бұрын
I love how you can tell by the score-board that these guys are probably fans of Top Gear.
@Kraleck
@Kraleck 2 күн бұрын
A pokey handguard implies either wearing a protected hand with a glove made of thick leather or mail, practicing with it until your hands have callouses on their callouses, or poverty-budget construction (usually the latter).
@vahlak6554
@vahlak6554 2 күн бұрын
Authentic Chinese construction for the Chinese sword. Looks like all of the effort went into making the blade pretty. Give the spare some TLC and keep it as a wall hanger, imo. Round out the sheath edges and give it a good handle, and it will at least be pretty to look at.
@seefoghall
@seefoghall 2 күн бұрын
So it's a $600 wall hanger... That's worth $200
@KonladVDragon
@KonladVDragon 2 күн бұрын
I have 55$ wall hanger katana that is better made than this crap.
@bluelight5229
@bluelight5229 2 күн бұрын
I think he said that he has a $200 sword that's better quality then the $600 so it's worth less then $200
@gotfrydzbouillon4191
@gotfrydzbouillon4191 2 күн бұрын
Even less
@christophpoll784
@christophpoll784 2 күн бұрын
I got my Katana of somehow the same smithy. Had to pay about 300€ and had a plastic cord-wrapping. Blade is nice. Sword is sharp, and fits my length. This item there? Double the price? Nope at all!
@fortheemperor4754
@fortheemperor4754 2 күн бұрын
Less like $50-$75 US
@temptempy1360
@temptempy1360 2 күн бұрын
@9:50 Very nice drawing motion on those cuts Tyranth. Great to see. not too little, not too much, just right.
@Mac_auley
@Mac_auley 2 күн бұрын
Skallagrim was recently sent a blade from SwordIs of similar quality and price point. I'm starting to think that they don't understand what quality means.
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 2 күн бұрын
Skall too? Who's next to suffer, Metatron?
@JiyuKishiParn
@JiyuKishiParn Күн бұрын
If you're referring to the polearm he got, that was from Swords of Northshire. But yeah, the construction on it was rather lousy.
@dark3031
@dark3031 2 күн бұрын
It's true that "Dao" just means "single bladed sword", however I would say it's not fully restricted to Chinese style. In the eyes of a Chinese, a Katana is a "Japanese Dao". Also based on their website, I can see there's an option to choose "sharpened" or "unsharpened". Did they send you one of each?
@mustangmckraken1150
@mustangmckraken1150 2 күн бұрын
Hopefully not, neither seemed sharp lol
@Thcreepyangel
@Thcreepyangel 2 күн бұрын
they ones referred to a Japanese sword a wo dao literally knife of the wo people
@sihilius
@sihilius 2 күн бұрын
Actually it means knife! So does "Messer".
@ryanprime381
@ryanprime381 2 күн бұрын
Dao mostly mean knife or any single edged blades there are pole arms being referred as big dao in some historical texts. And nowadays katanas are usually translated to Japanese dao or samurai dao in chinese.
@austinrestovic
@austinrestovic Күн бұрын
No, the blades just weren't sharp. And I'd bet that it's because the edge was so hard that they couldn't sharpen it properly.
@kurokaze511
@kurokaze511 2 күн бұрын
You'd think at this point most companies would have figured out that there's an easy formula to make great swords. Pick a design from history, make it out of spring steel, make sure it has a full tang, and make sure the hilt doesn't hurt your hand. It's an easy win every time. And then they can still make Damascus and differentially-hardened ones for people who want wall-hangers.
@hydrogenbond9570
@hydrogenbond9570 2 күн бұрын
The edge test finally making them try to break it just goes to shows that some swords are more prone to breaking when edged too hard
@bloodlove93
@bloodlove93 2 күн бұрын
all swords have their own strengths and weaknesses, nothing is ever perfect even if it's "perfect for you", that just means you don't deal in anything that exposes its flaws and thus it's flawless to you.
@mustangmckraken1150
@mustangmckraken1150 2 күн бұрын
That's how hardness on the mineral scale works, typically harder minerals are more prone to breaking and cracking rather than bend
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 2 күн бұрын
🤨📸
@hydrogenbond9570
@hydrogenbond9570 2 күн бұрын
I just realized I should have phrased that differently
@ShrockWPS
@ShrockWPS 2 күн бұрын
​@@hydrogenbond9570 Yet even after an edit, you still didn't change it. 😆 A man of culture I see
@robertpka7228
@robertpka7228 2 күн бұрын
If you're willing to sacrifice a bit of length and might be able reprofile the tang transition and beef it up a bit when you put a new handle on it.
@coltons5833
@coltons5833 2 күн бұрын
I was at 5:39 and noticed the video was uploaded 6 minutes ago. Hi Shad.
@origamichik3n
@origamichik3n 2 күн бұрын
I know absolutely nothing about metalworking. But the dimples and holes in the blade at 0:52 made me doubtful of the quality of the sword.
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 2 күн бұрын
After watching Man at Arms Reforged up until the Russian guy left, I have to agree. The replicas they forged *would* be a lot better than this.
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper 2 күн бұрын
Those aren't defects in the steel, it's an oiled blade and that's lint and dirt you're seeing. It's all but impossible to keep a blade looking photo quality pristine with any oil whatsoever on the blade...you need a lint free cloth to wipe the blade and something like a painter's booth if you want it to stay that way for pics. These guys have neither and they're outside.
@origamichik3n
@origamichik3n Күн бұрын
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper Thank you for the clarification.
@Maddog3060
@Maddog3060 2 күн бұрын
KatanaUS SwordIS What's next, FalchionID? Edit: I didn't realize they were going to suggest making it a Falchion when I made that comment. 😆
@hollyanforth1006
@hollyanforth1006 2 күн бұрын
I have extrapolated a heavy metal drum beat from the slow motion sounds of your armor, lol. It's actually quite brilliant.
@cymbaline4384
@cymbaline4384 2 күн бұрын
These are definitely those mass production Daos. Like on ROM, they sell Daos and Jians for as much as their Katanas. Id love to see one of those Jian in action
@xenux7669
@xenux7669 Күн бұрын
I love this channel, forgot it existed but glad one video got reccomended so I went back and watched a few videos
@SuperAccadacca
@SuperAccadacca 2 күн бұрын
Personally, I've been pretty satisfied with Swordis's experience and their swords they offer so far, but HanBonForge definitely has some explaining to do with the handle and tang on this one. As for the handle, as a practitioner with experience using Chinese Dao swords, I can say that it is made that way to bite into your glove. Chinese swords also come with a lanyard that ties around the user's hand. These blades were mostly used by cavalry, and as their nickname "General of War" suggests, whereas the Jian are known as "Gentleman of Weapons," most Daos were made for the battlefield.
@avilgraves
@avilgraves 2 күн бұрын
I have seen these online before and thought the same thing about the faux jewel settings on the handle. I agree the wood looks good. I'm glad you tested them, I was curious myself and you have saved me not only space in my wallet but in my brain as well. Thank you. BTW, On similar chinese dao, I have cut the bad part of the tang off, drilled new holes and fit a simple two piece full tang handle. Add a "D" guard or cup.
@niwoniwo
@niwoniwo 2 күн бұрын
Disregarding technicalities, I think looks-wise this blade is beautiful!
@karinefonte516
@karinefonte516 2 күн бұрын
Yes, it's decorative and I'm all for it, a long as you inform your customer it's decorative and ask the price for a decorative sword.
@tereninsecundus6084
@tereninsecundus6084 2 күн бұрын
@@karinefonte516 The fact it's NOT advertized as decorative and priced as if it's real, is the part where the sc*m comes in.
@SirPraiseSun
@SirPraiseSun Күн бұрын
overpriced wallhanger
@aristotlelavayna9748
@aristotlelavayna9748 2 күн бұрын
It's called temu sword.
@halgaci
@halgaci Сағат бұрын
I suspect this knife is not full tang. The tang and the blade may be manufactured separately and welded together. Such techniques are very common in many cheap swords made in China. I saw lots of cheap swords in China. They are sold for only a few dozen dollars and are intended only for exhibition rather than any practical use.
@bonaggy
@bonaggy Күн бұрын
I appreciate your efforts and information regarding these items. I think the main problem some customers forget, is that these “replicas” are nothing more than wall hangars. These expensive gewgaws are just meant to look good at best. Any practical use is “beyond their remit”. There isn’t usually much authenticity, either. Your reviews are appreciated in the collecting and re-enactor communities who just usually want good quality replicas. Living in the UK, you could collect authentic firearms that had been deactivated, which was enough for some collectors and re-enactors as these items are a part of our history. However, we are stuck with officials who’d put a cork on the tines of our forks if they could get away with it, for safety 🙄. Good kit does cost, usually because of authentic materials or authentic manufacturing techniques. However many fakes are not above charging high prices for old rope t try and convince you they are the real deal. Always keep an eye open for inauthentic shoddy work; materials, details. Don’t trust anything that doesn’t list composition of materials, especially in medieval kit. If you do find a great supplier; support them with word of mouth as well as purchases. Give these brilliant people a way to stay in the market. They obviously can’t compete with mass producers, but their work is more likely to be accurate and well made. Your doing great work. Keep it up, fellas. 👍🍻
@glennhills3476
@glennhills3476 15 сағат бұрын
Another fantastic video Shad. I love these reviews so much as your always so open and honest always wanting to find positives amongst all the negative things. Keep up the great work.
@merakimelodies8931
@merakimelodies8931 2 күн бұрын
I have a very similar dao (I believe this is a YanLing Dao, roughly-meaning goose-quill saber) from L.K.-Chen. They offer it in Damascus or through-hardened monosteel (if I’m getting this right). I was aware the spring-steel would hold up better, but the Damascus was so beautiful that I got it. Given you got the through-hardened monosteel version, you should give it a try: I can’t speak for all of them, but mine’s a good sword. :)
@thal0de
@thal0de 2 күн бұрын
Eureka! Weight vs volume should be possible to figure out what kind of steel it is. Go Archimedes! (After it has been stripped down to just the metal in the blade.)
@baanibarnes9711
@baanibarnes9711 13 сағат бұрын
I'm with you guys on the blade design, beautifully proportioned with a gentle curve I really like. I am a Katana fan (stifles a yawn?), I like gently curved blades and this Dao looks awesome. Handle size and shape looks good too. I don't use the swords in my collection, I live in the UK and you can get arrested for just looking at a blade let alone swinging one about outdoors, even in your own garden, just not worth the risk, so won't be hacking anything with mine if I get one. This is definitey in my 'want' list, looking forward to your test.
@dougvantilburg9173
@dougvantilburg9173 2 күн бұрын
Have you guys looked into Kult of Athena? They have a huge selection of blades, armor and accessories and their site is good for showing how they are assembled and are better at calling out how battle-ready the weapon is.
@MakoSDV
@MakoSDV 2 күн бұрын
They have. Shipping to Australia is super expensive though.
@baanibarnes9711
@baanibarnes9711 13 сағат бұрын
That bend was nasty, I have never seen a blade bend so easily, looks like no tempering at all in the main body of the blade. I understand the advantage of a tempered edge/softer back but that was gnarly!
@lukediehl1210
@lukediehl1210 2 күн бұрын
For Tyranth. There are many variations of dao. The one we typically think of is the "oxtail saber." Don't ask me the Chinese name, I mix them up all the time. There's also the willow leaf and goose quill designs, and a few others that I can't remember the name of. Some have straight blades, some are curved. Some flare at the tip, some taper. Some handles are straight, others are recurved. They can be one handed or two handed. Dao is kind of like the word falchion. There's a whole typology associated with them. If only someone had done a review of the Elmslie typology for reference... 🤔
@Wickedous
@Wickedous 2 күн бұрын
Whatever you do with the sword. Reinforce that Tang.
@gaelstromproductions
@gaelstromproductions 2 күн бұрын
I love the honesty, but I also love the attempt to give credit where it's due. I'm always fond of focusing on where something can improve, so when you do something with the blade, since I don't know much about the reason it was weak in the epoxy very well, I'd love to see that be a focus in the video as to how you're improving it with the new hilt. With comparison to this video for example.
@marcdesrochers1250
@marcdesrochers1250 2 күн бұрын
As it relates to the wrap, I prefer the Chinese style of outer wrapping then the Katana style which tends to dig into the hand. At least, the ones I have handled.
@dereksmith2068
@dereksmith2068 2 күн бұрын
Hey, you finally got shorts!!! Keep the channel alive!
@evanmorris1178
@evanmorris1178 2 күн бұрын
You can grind a tang say 3” down into the base of the blade. Then trim off the threaded end of the rat tail tang. That ought to give you enough strength to resist bending. Shortens the sword, but it won’t suck as much.
@GruLaC
@GruLaC 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for your honesty.
@oxh4rb1ng3rxo5
@oxh4rb1ng3rxo5 2 күн бұрын
Love the knowledge about what to be looking for in a comfortable and effective sword!
@logancade342
@logancade342 6 сағат бұрын
I love the integrity 👏 It's impossible not to root for you guys.
@Llyren
@Llyren 2 күн бұрын
I would love to see you guys get a set of hardness testing files to add to your reviews of the blades you are breaking :D
@MitarIzDubicha
@MitarIzDubicha 2 күн бұрын
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but ebook titled The Elite Society's Money Manifestation might be the answer you’re looking for
@ExorcistX999
@ExorcistX999 2 күн бұрын
That tang makes me think it won't be much more than a expensive wall hanger or vegetable knife
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz 2 күн бұрын
I love that they are honest about the quality of the sword despite it being an affiliate. It’s a great chance for companies to prove their products to customers.
@Umbreon-ln7fe
@Umbreon-ln7fe 2 күн бұрын
This would've at least been a decent display blade if the handle and fittings were better.
@adresail8878
@adresail8878 Күн бұрын
Don't normally watch sword videos but I love this channel
@Tall_Order
@Tall_Order 2 күн бұрын
WIth how cheap the handle is, I almost expected the blade to go flying out of it and break the camera.
@damachinen
@damachinen 2 күн бұрын
Great job on an honest review. Thanks guys.
@jessetheunending9357
@jessetheunending9357 2 күн бұрын
Looks like you turned it into a fantasy whip sword!
@nanothestrange
@nanothestrange 2 күн бұрын
the rayskin and handwrap are indeed historically accurate to the Song through Ming dynasty examples of Dao, as well as some later examples as well into the early 1800s. The katana as we understand it came long after the first Dao examples and Japanese swords got most of their inspiration from ancient Chinese and Korean examples, such as the "Tang dao." the later examples going into the qing dynasty are typically wood or metal handled, the metal typically being iron or low grade steel. during earlier periods, such as the ming dynasty or transitional periods, blades often mix and match styles from previous dynasties for a variety of reasons, sometimes practical, sometimes to "call back" to earlier more bountiful periods in Chinese history. This is one of the reasons why the Dao remains in use for longer in Chinese history than the Jian, however even with the jian there are later versions which are meant to pay homage to older examples that are used much differently. tbh though guys a quick google search before you made your video could have easily cleared up some of your cultural confusion with the construction of the grip earlier in the video.
@jude8943
@jude8943 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, dude! That was interesting.
@v_artra5399
@v_artra5399 2 күн бұрын
looks like it was made more as a wall decoration, or like it's halfway between wall decoration and functional. Would love to see Tyranth make a new handle and stuff for it if possible
@LordFlashheart
@LordFlashheart 2 күн бұрын
That poor affiliate link lol. The mark up on that must almost be infinite.
@kevinsullivan3448
@kevinsullivan3448 2 күн бұрын
It is a pretty wall hanger... Would you consider shortening the blade a few inches to recreate the tang and weld on a suitable piece of steel to fill out the tang in the handle. You could create a 'short' Messer.
@youtubevoice1050
@youtubevoice1050 2 күн бұрын
The tang bending is moreso a problem with the handle that didn't support it enough. However it is correct for the tang to be soft.
@ZERO4LIFE
@ZERO4LIFE 2 күн бұрын
Ayyy this got on my feed
@bartofii
@bartofii 2 күн бұрын
same oh snap... within 5 minutes even
@ShrockWPS
@ShrockWPS 2 күн бұрын
Fiskars makes a $40 brush axe with a fiberglass handle and curved blade. I chopped down small trees with that sucker and only had small rolls, not even a chip on the blade. I'd pay $20 for that sword because at least it'd be fun breaking it.
@bobmarlej9106
@bobmarlej9106 2 күн бұрын
8:52 forbidden stool
@jude8943
@jude8943 2 күн бұрын
😂
@AnthonyJacobs-g2c
@AnthonyJacobs-g2c 2 күн бұрын
The traditional Chinese doa sword has a fatter blade tip to help with slicing and it's supposed to have a cloth at the end that you use to distract and to wrap around your arm for more power
@thesuminer
@thesuminer Күн бұрын
@Shadiversity I got a copy of Shadow of the Conqueror for Christmas, very much looking forward to cracking it open and reading.
@jierdareisa4313
@jierdareisa4313 2 күн бұрын
I do really love ALL Shadiversity videos!!!! ❤
2 күн бұрын
For pattern-welded damascus steel (not wootz damascus) you need not one type of steel, but at least two types of steel: one for light, and one for dark parts of the pattern, isn't it?
@jude8943
@jude8943 2 күн бұрын
Knife maker here, yes typical pattern welded steel will be 15N20 which is a tool steel with high nickel for toughness and corrosion resistance(the light part in the pattern)and combined with a simple carbon steel, usually 1095 or 1084(the dark part of the pattern), but I have seen some with just 2 carbon steels with different amounts of carbon but that makes a much more subtle pattern. There are actually blades out there with more than 2 types of steel.
@Ivanklord
@Ivanklord 2 күн бұрын
I kinda like it as a ceremonial sword
@Roland3ld
@Roland3ld 2 күн бұрын
Here's the usual full support for channel growth.
@ShikiRen
@ShikiRen 2 күн бұрын
I saw a similar-ish looking sword (in so far that it has a single edged curved blade and a "reverse" grip) on Skallagrim's channel, the "Lancelot Supreme Cutter" that is apparently a complete beast. Might be worth checking out (depending on price etc.)!
@jjohansen86
@jjohansen86 2 күн бұрын
The moment they said "Damascus," I was just waiting for Shad to comment on the term.
@TheStrykerProject
@TheStrykerProject 2 күн бұрын
This would be a chance to put a cool fantasy handle on the extra sword. One that you admire and maybe matches a similar shaped sword in a movie/series/game.
@keasterthegreat
@keasterthegreat 2 күн бұрын
Great video guys. Thanks for the content.
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 2 күн бұрын
Dao were frequently made in Japan & imported to china, one of their swords known specifically as 'wodao' or japanese single edge sword. They were usually designed for chinese preference but it varies in period. This is partly why japanese carried so many swords as a sword exporter, to keep the craft alive between wars. Chinese could make excellent weapons of course but when they had long peace only those smiths making for guards etc survived, thus demand exploded every war. Thus there are time periods when most are imported from Japan. I believe Japan used higher quality sourced steel vs it's katana too, & katana were maximising their bad iron sources. Interesting history, but yes, they can share similarities with katana as they're made by the same people.
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 2 күн бұрын
From what others said, and I could find, it's the other way around. Japanese used the dao that they imported from China, then came up with the katana.
@tn1881
@tn1881 9 сағат бұрын
High-quality Japanese knives, which are highly valued today, are made using the same traditional methods as katana. kzbin.infoTldpPYewaQo In Japan's traditional low-temperature furnaces at 1400 degrees, the iron sand becomes semi-molten, but only the impurity slag can be melted and discharged through holes in the furnace, making it possible to produce high-quality, durable steel. Japan has many volcanoes, and the titanomagnetite iron sand formed from weathered magma contains little phosphorus and sulfur, impurities that make steel brittle, and contains vanadium, which strengthens steel. Iron ore is high in phosphorus and sulfur, but no vanadium. In China and the West, blast furnaces melted iron ore with phosphorus and sulfur. Vanadium gives steel ductility and makes it easier to roll, making it easier to fold and forge. By folding and forging, the vanadium is finely dispersed and combines with carbon to create a fine metal structure, giving the katana excellent hardness, abrasion resistance, corrosion resistance, and toughness, and it becomes beautiful when sharpened. Katana steel is so high quality and durable that around 1970, Japanese steel companies analysed the katana and traditional furnaces to develop a modern steel called Yasugi Specialty Steel (yasuki hagane). YSS is a steel used for cutlery, kitchen knives, razors, medical knives, car parts, aircraft parts, engine parts, etc. YSS steel accounts for 40% of the razor market share. Chinese Ming Dynasty military scholar Mao Yuanyi (1594-1640)"Katana is extremely robust and sharp, Chinese swords are no match for katana." 茅元仪 日本 刀極剛利中國不及也
@vcool122
@vcool122 Күн бұрын
I checked the affiliate link for funsies. They've changed the blade steel type to: Folded Steel, 1095 Carbon Steel.
@strafe155
@strafe155 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate your honesty.
@mikeboyce21
@mikeboyce21 2 күн бұрын
I know it's not a traditional sword, but i would love to see how durable a swamp rat free rein 28 wakizashi is. They are a bit expensive but Jerry Busse might be willing to send you guys one for free. He does on occasion send people stuff for free for them to test.
@turboking9238
@turboking9238 Күн бұрын
Is there a site that sells quality blades that aren't cheap? Like blades that are reasonably priced yet they aren't cheaply made.
@Mr-Tibbster
@Mr-Tibbster 2 күн бұрын
I'd recommend looking up the "Tai Yang Yan Ling Dao" from LK Chen.
@lilnoomer596
@lilnoomer596 14 сағат бұрын
Big respect for being honest even with a free sponsored sword.
@MagicalMaster
@MagicalMaster 3 сағат бұрын
I wonder if he'll get his hand on a Kyber Blade. They're really unique single edged short sword with a large T profile to give it a huge amount of force for stabbing attacks. It's designed to go right into chainmail.
@kahrnivor
@kahrnivor 2 күн бұрын
I've always liked the design of the dao.
@jamesreese-lf1cd
@jamesreese-lf1cd 2 күн бұрын
So this style of Dao is a cavalry saber, the lu yin Dao means willow leaf knife/blade it became the standard of Chinese military swords after the Yuan ( Mongle dynasty). The grandparents of this sword are the mongle and Turkish stepp horse peoples single bladed swords. Being used by horse back itwas kinda on the beefy side
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