We NEED to talk about this abomination of a sword

[@eMercody]

It might be called 洋刀 or “yougatana” (Yōgatana) if we’re making things up. It would translate to “western style sword/ katana.”

[@kingmasterlord]

Tyranth himself dubbed it the Sword of Content last video

[@shawndodson5556]

How about Gaijin-tana?

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

I am thinking of what could be looks a double bladed sword with katana hilt but ?I just remember Chinese long sword

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Artana.

[@Scuzzlebutt142]

The closest in form to a existing design would be a Swiss Sabre, as it pretty much meets all the characteristics of one, just with an exotic origin for the blade.

[@davidkueny2444]

The Longsword gets the name "Bastard Sword" in a lot of RPGs. So I recommend "Bastard Katana." I think Tyranth can get behind the name.

[@michaelyoung7261]

Bastard Katana is better than Shatana imo

[@sketchystruggles5361]

Bastard sword or hand and a half sword is called that because it’s between a one handed sword and a long sword attributes. So bastard katana really fits.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

It works on multiple levels.

[@jonas_telmo]

Or a Bastard Scimitar

[@tristanellis-mascoll1171]

Well the bastardsword in rpgs is more the inbetween from a longsword and a greatsword. Which was long time the used definition, until the 2000s hit and even small swords get called big swords.

[@conanmaolcheann5088]

Shad introducing the sword to the world and Tyranth calling his creation an abomination gives off big Sauron and Celebrimbor energy

[@ccox4669]

Was not expecting Silmarillion references in KZbin comments today…

[@SockieTheSockPuppet]

​@@ccox4669But I'm all for it.

[@hisnotsolonely2961]

Just wait for somebody to become a pole

[@rachdarastrix5251]

"My father never loved me." ~Sword Of Tyanth.

[@Acromion11]

You mean when Sauron suggested to Celebrimbor to make an alloy?

[@TiagoHackbarth]

Come on, this is a TRUE Bastard Sword! Finally something that really deserves the name.

[@khartog01]

That's what I was thinking.

[@captainmaim]

Maybe a bastard son-of-a-bitch sword...

[@tobytoxd]

By that logic I ask you: Who is the king and who the whore then?

[@cjtheprop-maker]

I can't believe Shad and Tyron still haven't realised that they've essentially unintentionally made a book-accurate Wheel of Time sword.

[@marcosalexandre9783]

Same dude

[@celebril]

I would disagree. It is a Grayson sword like the one Honor used as Protectors Champion

[@danpit2001]

i said this on the build video

[@cjtheprop-maker]

@@danpit2001 Me too

[@DanJoymonger]

I also made the same reference, but after thinking about it, the sword from WoT is straighter up until close to the tip, then it curves. Still it's the closest we got.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

The Shatana of course

[@adamglover6948]

The Shadtana

[@dreadlordaxtonus6673]

No it is a already existing eastern sword like it IT IS EITHER A JAPANESE DASHI OR DACHI OR A CHINESE DAO SWORD LOOK THEM UP

[@sesneflower]

@@dreadlordaxtonus6673 (it's not)

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@dreadlordaxtonus6673 This is literally a katana with a cross guard how exactly does it look like a Jitte or a Dao. They have no cross guard nor really any guard at all.

[@madbrosheo1514]

Shatana? I ‘ardly know her!

[@elitemook4234]

When Tiranth was a lad he looked up into the sky and made a wish to create the greatest sword ever designed. Little did he know the finger of nearby monkeys paw did close.

[@masquerader101]

7 years later, a zombie katana knocks on his door

[@rachdarastrix5251]

@@masquerader101 Tyranth asks, "If you are a zombie sword, are you a rusted corpse instead of a rotten corpse?"

[@TheManofthecross]

Fails

[@rachdarastrix5251]

@@TheManofthecross But to understand why Shad made a video on that.

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

Gotta say I really like the Tiranth blade and I kind of want one now.

[@skuripandaburns3489]

Now you MUST make a Long sword with a tsuba, diamond wrap pinned hilt and no pommel.

[@Trash2000s]

That would sho bad it would end up being sho good.

[@TheChadPad]

The cursed longsword!

[@einkar4219]

this is law of equivalent exchange, for every good abomination there must be bad abomination

[@captianbacon]

I think that that'd look awsome...

[@deadflight84]

Yes. Bastardization of all swords shadisisation

[@hanno_t]

The comparison between both re-hilted "Scimitana" and "Katalong" will be super interesting. Love this project!

[@J.sh_CDN]

I can wait to see the Katalong, I think it's going to look like a long spike

[@xostler]

I feel like the Chinese has a blade that looked like a scimitar with a katana hilt and handle.

[@J.sh_CDN]

@xostler thinking of a Dao maybe? Single edged blade round blade guard but a more standard handle with a pommel

[@xostler]

@@J.sh_CDN yeah I think that’s it!

[@Arcanefungus]

Katalong sounds like a crappy name for a nodachi... "Behold!!! The KataLONG!"

[@DamTheAbsolute]

This show really needed Tyranth. No one else pushes back and argues with Shad the way he does. It adds so much to the show

[@williamforbesgaming827]

It's a sword so legendary even the creator hated it. It is shrouded in mist as to its identity but a sword none the less.

[@johnfairweather7012]

I immediately started thinking about guts' sword being described hahaha

[@bubzthetroll]

What I love about this sword is that it's not some impossible fantasy sword. It's completely possible that a single example of such a sword could have existed but has been lost to history.

[@Scuzzlebutt142]

They do exist, they're called Swiss sabers with a exotic blade, not an uncommon design, you just need to have a reasonable knowledge of swords to identify it.

[@TelsMaviston]

It's entirely possible some Japanese Smith or merchant brought a longsword with him from travels from afar, and then tried to incorporate aspects of it into a katana, but it just never caught on with the highly traditional samurai.Samurai. What would be more likely is if a Chinese merchant or Smith tried to modify a Katana and it just never went anywhere.

[@stgibbs86]

@@Scuzzlebutt142 Its similar just like the kriegsmesser, but it isnt actually that. This literally uses a katana blade. The swiss were not importing katana blades from japan.

[@kyleeames8229]

When I originally watched the build video it made me imagine a scenario in which a Japanese sword smith got his hands on say, a European or middle eastern sword and thought, 「まあ、これオモロいやつやなぁ。なんとか作ってみようかなぁ。」 It’s hardly unprecedented. I recently learned of Ming dynasty Chinese sailors witnessing the combat effectiveness of ootou and uchigatana in the hands of Japanese pirates and basically imitated the design. There were notable design differences, but they remained popular in China well into the early 20th century, so pretty good weapons.

[@Scuzzlebutt142]

@@stgibbs86 So what? This thing they created has a standard cross guard and pommel, just like the construction of a Swiss Saber. And using an imported blade is a very european thing, as they imported blades from all over and put them in their own furniture, didn't make them not an example of the sword just cause the blade was imported. If I came across this thing in the wild, and didn't have the backstory, I would classify it as a Swiss saber by its form. What components you used to form it really don't matter. The same way if you fit a Messer blade onto a haft, my first thought would be Naginata, not trying to make up a term for it.

[@VidelxSpopovich]

It’s adorable how self conscious Tyranth is about his own work.

[@masquerader101]

Every artist is their own worst ______.

[@ryigen83]

Tytana lol

[@AnakinTheWeird]

bro your profile name is so cursed...

[@ccelik97]

Because both the quality of the replacement parts and the proportions are indeed far from ideal lol. No need to be an artist in the strict definition of the things to understand this. When you can do a lot better but you're tasked to lower your standards for a project (that you actually would've been also interested in otherwise), it stings. So I understand him. That said, despite all the technical jank he did well. :D

[@reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443]

He is like God in that regard. He hates his own creation. 😅 Oh wait, that's not funny.😬

[@wayneswonderarium]

Shad's enthusiasm for crimes against swords is infectious

[@Starless85]

I like that you and Tyranth are able to respectfully disagree so much. It’s interesting and a healthy dynamic.

[@deviousdelibird]

Agreed!

[@superkamehameha1744]

The chaotic professional energy between them two is amazing. Even more chaotic when Nate is present. Shadiversity becoming the boys channel is definitely the best thing that ever happened to shadiversity

[@brandanpalmer]

God, I love it here. I’m a prototype engineer, programmer, and machinist. Making custom stuff (abominations) is a huge passion of mine. Never change, guys. Never change.

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

as a physics student, E=.5mv^2. You have slightly more mass in motion, and the mass that's there is moving faster, therefore you will apply more energy in the strike, increasing the force applied and the cutting capacity. The weight distribution thing works because, by putting the mass further from the point of rotation, you increase the moment arm and the speed of that mass, allowing it to store more energy in it's motion, but adding the counterbalance doesn't decrease the moment arm of the existing mass, it only adds more mass.

[@yappeyatwow]

You used the proper science words to describe what I was thinking during the video.

[@spartanhawk7637]

I love how this entire saga's been Shad loving the sword and Tyranth slowly dying inside.

[@pandabosch]

It reminds me of Mugen's sword in Samurai Champloo. Mugen's sword has a guard like a blade like a katana, a guard like a sai, and a hilt like a jian. It's a mashup of different weapons kind of like your own.

[@ericford911]

Katana: What are you? Scimitana: I’m you but better.

[@ericford911]

And here comes the O-Scimitana with the spring steel chair!

[@inferno769]

From the top rope!

[@spiderenigma2803]

lmao i needed a good laugh

[@blazingshadow4688]

i love how shad is just laughing like a disney villan when getting tyrinth to admit 2 sided swords have more versatility in a fight

[@semperanticusphotography3749]

The sword is a really cool experiment and I dig it. I also love how uncomfortable Tyranth is with his creation; I can feel his mental pain and it is horribly enjoyable when showcased with Shad's enthusiasm.

[@Rizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

I am absolutely in love with that scimitana. Takes parts I adore about the scimitar and improves on what I don’t. Really wish I had one like that!

[@tcuegonbear]

I feel like a "Swiss Saber" style hilt/hand protection with an actual katana blade would be the ideal outcome of this project.

[@irencsak]

Tyranth brings so much to the channel. i remember being skeptical of him coming on back when he first started. He's long since proved me wrong and became one of my Shadiversity staples.

[@kingofsapi]

I remember there was another guy who came in after Oz, what happened to him?

[@Sikraj]

@@kingofsapi I know, Oz was pretty cool.

[@BigPanda096]

Nate and Tyranth are amazing contributions to the channel that have allowed it to, atmospherically anyway, ascend into T.V quality showmanship in my opinion. Shadiveristy could easily be put on History channel for instance and compete with the crap that's on there easily, if not become a staple show.

[@victorro8760]

@@kingofsapi If you're referring to Nathan (different from Nate), I think he films the videos but is often on Knights Watch (one of their other channels). There's also a guy who appeared briefly on Shadiversity but is still occasionally on Knights Watch also.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

I remember at first he gave off Lofty Pixels vibes. Nice guy, but always taking the wrong contrary opinion on popculture.

[@ZealotFeathers]

“This is not the only abomination we are going to be making.” Tyrinth dying inside

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

Shad: "We improved the katana" Also Shad: "This is an abomination"

[@badrequest5596]

i agree with ty that the pommel looks weird and a different pommel would look and feel better probably. maybe a pommel like the one in the kriegsmesser. the handle looks a bit chonky as well and i noticed they didnt remove the menuki on the handle but wrapped on top of it, which makes it look chonkier. but overall doesn't look too bad. i always thought a katana would be better with a crossguard but also keeping the rings around it, like in some tournament long swords

[@SterlingArmory]

I wish we could work with you guys on these! Would be a lot of fun and Chris has actually done this exercise before. Just to add, heavier overall swords do not necessarily hit harder, it really does depend on distribution of that mass and how it's used (ie balance point, and how it's swung). An easy way to see this is a variety of feders and sparring swords. If the POB is pulled way back to the guard compared to farther out POBs, they tend to hit a lot lighter, no matter the overall weight. OH! and if you want to do a larger O katana with a euro grip, I think a 1060 blade would be much better than a 1040 blade. Only because those makers tend to really nail the heat treat with 1060 more consistently.

[@the8madness905]

There is a sword in Bloodborne called Chikage, which is a katana with a crossguard and an overly ornate hilt and pommel. This sword reminds me of it.

[@Dfarrey]

Don't forget, there is historical precedent for swords being rehilted with a different style of hilt. I believe the pata (Indian gauntlet sword) was often made with a preexisting sword blade that was originally a more like a European longsword.

[@akumabito2008]

Naginata (katana-on-a-stick) were often made using recycled katana blades.

[@mehdia5924]

There's also a fantasy anime from 1998 named the Vision of Escaflowne, in which the characters used to wield swords like this. The blades looked oriental as the Japanese katana, but the guards were exactly like the one you made.

[@hian]

This comment. I've always been a huge fan of Katana with Western guards. It's been used in Japanese fantasy for over two decades, and they are awesome.

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

Sabre? Falchion? Swordtana? With the hilt construcrion, it is a katana hilt ... rather similar to a messer ... but with a sword pommel ... Falchion. Or swordtana. Let's ask a katana and antiquities expert: "A sword?" - Connor MacLeod

[@myusername3689]

Or an actual medieval soldier: A long knife

[@TheCaniblcat]

The perfect name already exists: The BASTARD SWORD! :P

[@wolfbane7497]

The sword shall be known as heron

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

@@TheCaniblcat Wow ... it's so obvious, but so elegant ... I'm ashamed I didn't think of it!

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

@@wolfbane7497 So long as it isn't a red heron. I'd hate to think this was all a ruse.

[@marvinzegarra]

There's a video on Ask Seki Sensei where the kenjutsu master tries a european style sword for the first time. One of the first things he comments is that the bigger guard would mean he has to rethink a lot of his techniques, since they usually do the downward strike from over the head and the cross guard would cause him to hit himself.

[@xyrthor]

I loved the feature of Fallout 4 where you could customize you weapons, like changing up the receiver, muzzle etc. and you'd get different effects. It would be fun if you could do the same in a fantasy game with medieval style weapons.

[@jackrose6996]

There was a game that allowed you to do that, but not nearly to the extent that it should have. It was called Vagrant Story. I played it for about 2 weeks when it was released, and didn't think about it much until now.

[@assortedsubscriptions4012]

This sort of fun, speculative, entertaining/comedic, and truly expert analysis is exactly the pocket this channel plays in best - and like no other.

[@luciferneverchanges5841]

It's a Bastard sword, an unholy fusion that somehow works. I love it.

[@H_209]

I think this types of creations should have their own clasification like Triggering swords or Tryranth's bane

[@josuesepulveda6850]

Tyranth's Bane sound vert cool.

[@krnt13]

Listening to the weight distribution discussion on blades is very similar to weight distribution on cars, you have your pros and cons, but in the end a better balanced item is always be easier to handle, in the end is all determined by the limitations of the platform or the usage of said item.

[@nixodian108]

I may be completely wrong but here is my take: When you cut something it means you have surpassed its maximum strain resistance. Strain, like pressure, is the force-to-area ratio and force is mass multiplied with acceleration. In order to increase the acceleration you would need a bigger lever. Now in a two-handed sword the lever has more to do with your two hands and less to do with the center of mass. As a result the change of center of mass is way less impactful than the change in mass.

[@laylaalder2251]

According to Dragalia Lost, a weapon that is both Blade and Sword would be called a "Blord."

[@Roland3ld]

Between scimitana and shabbard, the puns you guys come up with for naming things are amazing. I am known for loving puns and your guys' puns are top tier. Also, if you guys make a follow-up using an o-katana blade, would that make it an o-scimitana? And would it then be large enough to put in a shabbard? It would be great seeing your original designs in conjunction.

[@ToaCody1]

In my opinion that would be pushing odachi territory.

[@Kraleck]

I'd classify the new sword: "Australian Hybrid Scimitana, 'Tyranthbane' style"

[@celtofcanaanesurix2245]

I can't believe Shad and Tyranth are essentially doing the sword equivalent of the "are you into girls with big boobs or big butts?" argument, and PS Shad is right... in more ways than one Also we should agree that the name of that specific sword, but not the sword type but that specific one, should be the abomination

[@cubancavalier3051]

I want to see it with an S curve cross guard so much

[@jonmittlsteadt4297]

A longsword with a Katana handle sounds incredibly cursed, but I'm here for it

[@jacksonsmiler8028]

The Chinese beat us to it, iirc I believe it's a type of dao

[@ntfoperative9432]

The Chinese already did it

[@twinphalanx4465]

The entire hema community just shuddered at that thought

[@corwinhyatt519]

? Just sounds like what's been called commercially a Dai-katana to me.

[@BLS31]

I'd still say Nanban-tachi, like I said before. It's a katana in the style of the Nanban, the foreigners (the Portuguese) that arrived from the south.

[@BLS31]

It also calls to mind the Nanban-do Gusoku, or Southern Foreigner's armor. It's armor made by the Japanese to try and copy the European style of plate armor. I think the two would look very odd, but very fitting together.

[@nilok7]

Nanban-tachi is actually a perfect name

[@CowCommando]

Ooh, yes, I like that. The only issue is that this wasn't made by the Japanese.

[@BLS31]

@@CowCommando I don't think it's a parmesano reggiano situation where it can only be called a katana if it's made in Japan. I think the name is apt.

[@Yatezylad]

Honestly, while I'm not a sword expert, I do not agree with changing to a circular pommel. I think modifying it to make it more scimitar-esque would look better than making it more European. Unsure how the feel of the sword would be affected but to me the blade is far more similar to a scimitar than a falchuon

[@MeepChangeling]

Who gives a shit about how a sword looks? I'd rather have a blade that can prevent my hands from being cut off by the other guy than some art object.

[@sihilius]

@@MeepChangeling Apparently a lot of people back in the day cared about how their sword looked. Ask the people burried in sutton hoo for example.

[@gmann215]

​@@MeepChangelingIf they wanted that, they'd just give this sword a complex hilt or even a basket hilt.

[@philllllllll]

Yeah, ring pomme would look fucking weird. I love the look of this one as-is and if I'd change anything it would be for quality of material. Ring pommel would look off.

[@DH-xw6jp]

​@@MeepChangelingmost people care about how their gear looks, even at the points in history where there was an actual likelihood of getting into a sword fight to tge death (unlike today, where swords are made for art and sport). You are in the extreme minority with the claim that you don't care about looks.

[@wintersking4290]

Looks a lot like Calandor, from wheel of Time, or the Pathfinder dueling sword. People have been thinking about making such a sword for a while.

[@jameswilliams-ry6wx]

That's what I thought. It looked like a heron marked sword

[@TMPMADNESS]

No don't put a pommel on it at all! You should keep the handle the same, just add the cross guard, perhaps a less symmetrical one, an L shape pointing down edge side, and L pointing up on spine side

[@ethakis]

Rehilting a spring steel Okatana is exactly what I was curious about from the previous video! Can't wait to see it!

[@timothyfrasier8218]

I would love to see you do videos where you take every single sword and modify them to be the ultimate versions of themselves

[@TornadoCreator]

I love this modified, improved Katana. Everything about it is awesome. You've taken a symbol of weeb obsession, and made a thing of true beauty out of it.

[@inali_illustrates9142]

Its a symbol of our culture(by our I mean the Japanese people) that has been taken out of context by weebs

[@SeanCrosser]

Wow that's rude as hell. I guess japanese culture didn't exist before the 20th century.

[@pauloazuela8488]

​@@inali_illustrates9142You can't do proper Iado with that kind of guard and different sword center of balance

[@inali_illustrates9142]

@@pauloazuela8488 ye

[@Thunderbringer1]

I can't wait to see the O-Scimatana and the Kong Sword

[@bryanpillow4144]

I love watching this kind of stuff. Not just a review, but some guys that love swords genuinely having fun with them! It’s like watching a gearhead’s channel where you’d see something like “I put a Lamborghini engine in this Jeep. Let’s see what she can do!” kind of thing. It’s obvious you are enjoying yourselves and it’s contagious! Thanks for the fun watch!

[@Zoeymacelroy0811]

If anybody does an archeological dig on shads property they are going to be so confused

[@kazuma_koon]

Hell most archeologists think the pyramids were built with bronze chisels and wood pulleys...so it doesn't take much.

[@DH-xw6jp]

​​@@kazuma_koonand what were they made with in your opinion?

[@kazuma_koon]

@@DH-xw6jp Something unknown, beyond our modern day capabilities.

[@DH-xw6jp]

@@kazuma_koon ... You think stacking stone blocks is "beyond our modern day capabilities"?

[@kazuma_koon]

@@DH-xw6jp When they weigh as much as thousands and thousands of tons, carried hundreds of miles, through sand and mountains....yes.

[@weepingwell]

it reminds me of the heron marked swords out of the Wheel of Time series. The only difference is they said Rand's sword had twisted or braided quillions. I can't rememeber which but it was one of them.

[@westh2756]

My first thoughts as well. Jordans description of Lans sword was similar to this sword.

[@jacthing1]

Kinda makes me think of the Chikage

[@weepingwell]

@@jasonbrody8724 etch a heron on it and i'd buy one XD

[@edot7266]

​@@jasonbrody8724Warder-tana

[@weirdchick257]

I think the problem is it's unrefined. I think if you took the time to make quality parts that look good together then Tyranth would warm up to it much more.

[@demonkingsparda]

It's a Chikage from Bloodborne.

[@Thought_Processing_]

Thanks for going into the detail on differences between the two handed falchion, the Keigsmesser and the Tyranth blade.

[@oaksparoakspar3144]

The Tyranthian Scimtana needs a longer blade, a slightly longer grip, and a fishtail pommel. The Katana's weakness is always reach, and since you are adding weight in pommel you can balance that against length, and the fishtail gives you the most capacity to choke down the grip to stretch out the reach further. You would be getting the benefits of a Miao Dao without having the overlong grip due to the pommel weight - getting it more into the longsword family. There is a reason why short swords are so often stabbers - because stabbing loses no energy with shorter length (just reach). Slashing does lose energy the shorter the blade.

[@pensandoenvozalta8415]

We all know that if the samurai had this beauty of a sword, they would be around even today, overpowering even firearms.

[@joelofjudah9144]

It's like a longsword and a katana had a baby.

[@myusername3689]

2 handed Falchion(I call it KriegsFalchion)

[@wolfbane7497]

I call it the heron

[@nextcaesargaming5469]

This is what happens when swords don't use protection

[@anelbegic2780]

Indeed, an absolute abomination.

[@arconreef]

I don't think that adding mass anywhere on a sword could allow you to accelerate it faster (except in a gravity assisted strike). Adding a pommel can make a sword easier to handle, but it won't help you swing it faster.

[@WilliamMitchell-sc3fe]

It is called the simitana, because the cross guard pommel and handle. That's where you get the scimitar from the katana blade and the habaki, that's what makes the katana part. Hence the name simitana!

[@RauschenPauli]

the giant swords. carbon fiber swords and now the katana and longsword abomination. i can't wait for the future content!

[@famicom89]

cannot wait to see the o-katana "remixed" with an european-style handle and crossguard

[@Smol_Schan]

The Shadtana and the Tiranth Sword... Mortal enemies for life.

[@morrigankasa570]

Swords are useful and fun. Though I personally prefer Clubs, Maces, and Warhammers. However, for a Sword I'd prefer a Scimatana over a regular Katana. But my absolute favorite Sword would be a slightly longer Double-Edged Sword with a Gladius type shape. The best middle-ground weapon is an Axe though.

[@YordleDeathMetal]

@shadiversity I think “Bastana” would would well for a name. Reasons being is it’s a bastard version of the Katana. An eastern blade with a westernized design. It has similar qualities in design to a falchion, with the blade length of a scimitar. Making it even more bastardized in design. Weight distribution and overall weight itself are similar to that of a bastard sword, while also having similar beastly cutting and chopping capacities; referencing to the tree chopping video where the bastard sword and katana both had nearly equal results. Bastana also just sounds really fricken cool.

[@Blandy8521]

Shad looked so excited about making an Okatana version

[@masquerader101]

For real though, Tyranth is one craft dude. He made something as straightforward as a pokeball and had me entertained and impressed the whole time. This sword is obviously cooler but its the principle. He cares about the craft and it shows 🙏🏽

[@Night4fingers]

In the Honor Harrington series, there's a blade that's essentially this - crossguard + katana blade. It does have a straight third before the typical katana blade, but what you produced sounds close to it.

[@sandpirate1662]

Yo I hadn't even thought about that. (That duel at the end of flag in exile was very satisfying.)

[@FiliusFidelis]

Flag in Exile, you know, I was just thinking about that just before i spotted the comment. Not only that, this also happens to be pretty close to what a heron mark blade from wheel of time is supposed to look like.

[@sandpirate1662]

​@FiliusFidelis aw man another great series. (RIP og heron marked sword, you served well 8D) Were all the heron marked blades that style or was it just Rand's?

[@SymbioteMullet]

​@sandpirate1662 i think the heron mark indicated it was the sword of a master, rather than a specific style

[@FiliusFidelis]

@@sandpirate1662 Not 100% certain as all that many other swords were discussed but the real Heron Mark swords were mass produced during the War of Power though so I'd assume so. Also his, his fathers, sword was unusual, finer, more ornamented with Herons than most, Lan's blade were a lot more plain with only a heronengravig on the blade itself (if i remember right). I think it was Lan who hypothesized that Rand's sword had belonged to an officer during the WoP.

[@reeceemms1643]

Day 8 of asking for a medieval misconceptions video on medieval themed weddings and how they can be incorporated into our fantasy stories

[@cardinalhamneggs5253]

My first impression of the crossguard katana, having not seen the build video: It looks like a shorter version of one of the long narrow-blades falchions I saw in a previous Shadiversity video about falchions.

[@arronjerden915]

If you lower the point of balance toward the hilt then you are adding mass to the working side of the lever and mass x speed = force. So it should have more force with the new hilt assuming that speed is constant.

[@Rallionart]

This sward actually is almost exactly the way I imagined the Heron marked blade in "The Wheel of Time" series (books)

[@aquilschutte]

Its so cool of you mix europe and asian sword jou get middel eastern, you see like an evolution of the sword curving and handle too

[@ZoeLycan]

This reminds me of a Fantasy character I made on a "story" I was writing. A kind of Fighter/Ranger (if I compare to D&D), dual blade warrior, using a Katana on main hand and a wide double edge european/medieval sword hold backwards mainly to parry. I remember everyone would get triggered by such abomination as it would make both groups angry. Now this "Simitana" would be the kind of sword he would end up using, he would still o with dual sword fight. I specially like that the handle gives the ilusion that the blade looks shorter, that can be an interesting thing to add in the story. how an enemy underestimate him and thinks it has the advantage cos the simitana looks shorter or doesn't have enough reach

[@Kramburger11]

Scimitana is pretty good, but I'd personally switch that around to Katanitar because it's a bit more fun to say.

[@rallyl7053]

I am really excited to see how those modifications turn out on both swords

[@terryhardinjr3581]

I LOVE this sort of forged in fire/myth busters crossover type content. Inb4 we get them making swords from the ground up

[@ryanread8617]

I can't wait to see the ultimate sword, a SCIMITANA! I can't wait to see this project blossom a perfect sword!

[@lstcloud]

I am SO not a fan of the crossguard in general on ANY sword. I can definitely see the potential for that catching on clothing or striking near the wrist of the wielder when you make contact. A tsuba or even a rapier basket doesn't stick out as far, and being more rounded means it's far less likely to get caught on clothing when being drawn or coming in close contact with the wielder's body, not to mention that it makes for an area to catch/deflect an opposing blade from ALL angles. Your standard crossguard is only really going to be effective in stopping an opposing blade from sliding down on the front or back, from anywhere else on the sides of it it's gonna offer absolutely no practical protection whatsoever. Granted, an opposing edge vs. the flat of a blade is not going to be ideal in terms of a full power strike because it runs the very real risk of warping/bending the receiving blade on the flat side, however in a drawn out fight you're not going to have that many full power strikes that will be delivered in the first place. Besides, your goal in blocking a strike shouldn't be straight on, edge-to-edge contact anyways. You should be looking to redirect the force of the blow by letting it slide down the length of the blade until it runs into the guard, thus stopping it's forward momentum. At that point you can push back against it or pull the whole sword out of the way, to throw the attacker off balance, OR pinning the blade by it's flat against another surface in order to attack it where it's thinner and thus easier to break. So in terms of hand protection, I absolutely disagree with their assessment here as they make no mention whatsoever with attacking the crossguard itself in order to have it strike the radial nerve bunch just below the wrist, which could cause an involuntarily reflexive action to drop the blade completely. In terms of cutting power and speed, yeah mass x acceleration = force, BUT when swung it's not going to be a fixed point lever at the balance point. The fulcrum is going to be in a constant state of motion up & down the length of the blade and the forearm because in order to get enough range and momentum to be effective, it's better to think of it in terms of a whip with the shoulders, the elbow, the wrists, AND the balance point all acting as fulcrums temporarily at some point throughout the swing's total motion. The weakest and most flexible fulcrum along that motion though would be at the wrists which is why so many people look at the balance of the blade as being so important. Typically the better the balance of the blade itself, the more quickly and easily you can redirect the momentum in order to change your angle of attack.

[@jaysonstewart3537]

The scimitana reminds me of the description of Rand’s sword in Wheel of Time. I kind of like it. Innovative, unique and something new. Strong work!

[@Zetact_]

It's true that "katana" just literally means "sword" but even in Japanese lexicon it's become fairly common to refer to the same style of sword as what the West calls a "katana." The Japanese have tended to adopt "剣" (tsurugi/ken) as the general word for "sword" and "刀" (katana) more often for Japanese-style swords and are more than willing to let it just be shorthand for "uchigatana" (the standard two-hander).

[@swordweaver9696]

tsurugi剣 are generally referring to straight swords, katana刀 generally are curved swords, just like those characters use in Chinese

[@FalconWindblader]

@@swordweaver9696 It ain't actually about curvature, as there are indeed 刀 that are straight. the distinction is made to differentiate if the sword in question is single or double-edged, & 刀, be it in Chinese or Japanese, refers exclusively to single-edged blades.

[@FalconWindblader]

Untrue. the word used to mean 'sword' in general is 剣, SPECIFICALLY when it's read as 'ken'. when read as 'tsurugi', it refers specifically to double-edged, straight swords. 'katana' on the other hand, refers to single-edged, most probably curved swords. the origin & the process are mostly irrelevant when it comes to defining what's a katana in the broadest sense of the term.

[@skeletononcrystals5608]

I plan on getting a scimitar at some point. I love how the Arabian kind looks

[@RippDrive]

Shad is turning into some type of mad scientist

[@lorddio4280]

I think the problem wit the Simetana's handle is not the lenght but that this pommel is an awkward fit to this type of handle profile. Perhaps it would perserve a more Katana esque look if you made it more like the pommel of a Chinese dao. With some customization you could even wrap it like it used to be. Though that would be a ton of work.

[@llywyllngryffyn8053]

The longer distance from the tip to the center of mass means that it will be slightly faster on impact. combine that with the additional weight and it means that it should have more angular momentum. It should also give you more point control. It becomes more of a slashing weapon than a chopping blde, though, because the extra mass is now in the handle. On another side note, by adding that heavy pommel, you add in the possibility of a pommel strike to a weapon that never really had one before. Options are good.

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

Folks be complaining about lowering the center of rotation. When it actually means there is more blade above that point actively helping you cut. And the shorter lever arm makes it easier to move. The only weakness is a lowered resistance to binding blades applying more force back to the user, which we helped fix with a competent cross guard. The argument is like saying a longsword is worse than a broadsword because the blade is longer!

[@supposedlygreg]

This "abomination" is for me very nice, it does make the katana look better and more efficient, I would use this any days instead of a Katana. And I do like katana I have 3 good one and love them but like all sword they have cons and the missing cross guard and missing pommel is for me a huge cons this is why I like this Frankenstein sword :)

[@J.sh_CDN]

Seeing the alternates of the Messers and Scimitars and Falchions has made me recognize my favourite style of sword.... these single edge swords with a cross guard. Despite loving a lot of Japanese products, from cars to anime, I've never been a fan of the katana, but these scimitars and falchions and messers are right up my valley!

[@LoneWolf20213]

I like it, I think we need a novel so to speak that uses this blade in mass use maybe someone's book they are working on right now

[@Azorees-oj5zr]

I’ll add it to the fantasy universe that I’m making.

[@LoneWolf20213]

@@Azorees-oj5zr I already made it part of one in one of my made up kingdoms still Japanese based, but with innovative thinkers and adaptation for the people

[@Azorees-oj5zr]

@@LoneWolf20213 I’m thinking of making it the standard sword of one my kingdom’s royal guard along with the double blade sword.

[@LoneWolf20213]

@@Azorees-oj5zr nice nice I already added it in one of my fantasy army for one kingdom

[@nicholasbuckley-jubb3940]

Shads enjoyment and tyrants ambivalence from the 1st video was absolutely amazing

[@stefankatsarov5806]

The Sabre or Scimitar is used by diferent Scythic, Turckic and Mongolian people too. And it is used even in the midle ages by countries like Hungary, the Russian principalities and Bulgaria, who brought the desing when they came to europe ( or got it from the nomads in Russia's case ). In other words it wasnt a design that was used just in the Midle East and India, but in the Steppes, near or in China and Eastern Europe.

[@joshuamcdowell1460]

Repeat this process with a nōdachi and see if Tyranth doesn't change his mind. Because the tip heavy balance is practically doubled on the nōdachi and giving it the balance of a longsword with the reach of a greatsword might make it completely broken. Maneuverable af, with the weight, stiffness, and momentum to knock a man off a horse with a smack with the flat of the blade.

[@Concrete21]

Unless I'm completely misunderstanding: The center of balance of a blade just afects the maneuverability. If we assume that you are trying to swing a sword and have it rotate around the center, then the mass on one end is equal to the mass on the other. So in general the heavier the blade, the more force you have to put into rotating it up to a fast speed, the stonger the stike. With a katana you are not trying to rotate around the center of balance, instead you are rotating below it. So the mass you are trying to lift is lighter, and therefore you can get it up to speed easier, and with less force. F=Ma. So if mass is the same, then the katana is more forceful due to being able to get faster speeds easier. The more european style sword that is meant to rotate around the center of balance will habe less force, but less force is less commital, and therefore you get more maneuverablity. TLDR Summary: Katana more force more commital. European less force more maneuverable.

[@PapaKumaVT]

Awesome video!!! Love to see more creative projects. Does anyone know if they have said anything about the carbon fiber titan sword? I really want to see it come to fruition.

[@shadiversity]

We're still working on it in the background, and making progress ^_^

[@PapaKumaVT]

@@shadiversity Thats great!!! Thank you for replying and for all the great content and entertainment.

[@RoseKindred]

We have the luxury of looking back and analyzing centuries' worth of blades and armour, but the simple fact of "Would it work" should not be underestimated. We have high-tech tools, power grinders, adjustable heat forges, and power hammers, so we can make "perfection" of an ancient profession and art, but we don't *NEED* to is my point. Necessity first, then style.

[@hellomate639]

Sort of like a quarterstaff tends to roflstomp longswords.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@hellomate639 Any battlefield weapon, any polearm, _any_ weapon with more reach will roflstomp a sword within spaces where they're practical to use. Barring a couple exceptions (like the zhanmadao, a Chinese anti-cavalry sword) a sword isn't a battlefield weapon, it's a sidearm and a weapon used for self-defense in enclosed spaces.

[@hellomate639]

@@VestedUTuber Quarterstaves aren't really weapons of war, even though they are the training template for halberds, spears, and poleaxes. The point is that the quarterstaff is also a stick.... a walking stick at that. $0-$50 stick vs. $1000 sword, stick wins almost every time.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@hellomate639 Sure, but it's for the same reasons as battlefield weapons - reach advantage is massively influential.

[@thejurassicking916]

We need to get you guys ballistic dummies to test these amazing bladed and blunted weapons.

[@TheBronzeKnight]

That is almost the exact picture I have in my mind for blademaster & warder swords in wheel of time.