Shadow of the Erdtree - 14 New UNBELIEVABLE DLC Secrets & Hidden Things You NEED to Do - Elden Ring!

[@RageGamingVideos]

Even more secrets and unique ash of war changing fun: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYbTp4KojJKhrqM

[@PierceArner]

A miscellaneous tip that might be appreciated if you primarily two-hand weapons (especially if you're using Rellana's Twin Blades for their unique two-handed moveset) is always keeping the Beast-Repellant Torch in your offhand when you're exploring castles or wandering around. It extinguishes the light source while it's placed on your back, but keeps the beast-repellant property active. As such, guard dogs don't alert anyone to your presence and wont attack you. Even if they're scripted to ambush you, they just jump out and bark, but dont hit you, and literally means never fighting any dogs in the DLC, because there are no red-eyed ones anywhere in the Shadow Lands. Additionally, all the regular animals that will aggro like rats, rams, boars, wolves, & bears don't ever attack you, and even the new Shadow Lands' horned varieties of those beasts also stay passive, as well as the Frenzied rats & rams in the Abyssal Woods.

[@PierceArner]

The other thing I don't know TOO much about yet is what seems to be an unexpected interaction with the Cursed-Blood Pot that I haven't been able to test out more and might be worth a look. Normally, throwing it will make your Spirit Summons go red-eyed, get extra aggressive, and give off a red smoke while that's active. However, it seems to also affect the Death Knight boss, as when I used it, they repeatedly re-triggered the Mohg sigil on themselves along with the red smoke effect multiple times. I have never gotten this to occur on any other enemy since then (living, Mausoleum Knight, or Those Who Live in Death), but haven't been able to test on the Castle Sol spirits or on another Death Knight again yet, as I haven't gotten back there again in my current game. (I have some footage of the initial accidental discovery on my channel if you want a reference for what to look for and can give it a try).

[@FelisImpurrator]

Finally, beast torch worth using? Neat.

[@PierceArner]

@@FelisImpurrator Its ability to make Basilisks passive make it well worth using in the base game.

[@DijonFromage]

The sentry torch works the same way. No light, but will reveal the invisible ninjas.

[@TameOJ]

One thing I noticed when fighting radahn is that his meteors are affected by the moon spells, so if you cast it and release it before the meteors get too close, they'll get pulled in!

[@Shadorenify]

Gravity magic affected by a moon..?

[@Vinnare]

I believe the meteors are attracted to you, but the moon simply gets in the way and breaks em. Its not necessarily an interaction of the moon attracting them

[@Animesguardianangel]

@@VinnareThe item descriptions explicitly tells you that they do this. Uses the caster as a vessel to incarnate a full moon, then sends it floating toward foes. *The full moon dispels all sorcery that touches it* , and temporarily reduces magic damage negation for those it strikes. Uses the caster as a vessel to incarnate a cold, dark moon, then sends it floating toward foes. *The dark moon dispels all sorcery that touches it* , and temporarily reduces magic damage negation for those it strikes.

[@officialdislikebutton9712]

Moon spells ABSORBS ANY PROJECTILES

[@ryanboyle5227]

Shut up

[@john-gh5yo]

That one with the scythe is such a bizarre interaction- what in the hells could even cause such a thing

[@desolation1821]

My best guess is that they had multiple versions of the Ash of War for this weapon in testing and decided for the main one. While the other versions aren't being actively used, they are still in the files. But once you use the other two ashes of war the move overrides with one of the previous versions. Probably because of some file name overlap that triggers the moveset change accidentally. All this to say, it's probably a bug.

[@Morgot4662]

​@@desolation1821 I dont think thats it. From the wind particles you can tell that they're portions of the stormcaller ash of war. Since it has several different atack sections thats what causes the variety. I think its more so to do with the location of the motion files the same way that hold type ash of wars have ghizas wheel as the default causing the well known chainsaw glitch.

[@vonbrendt01]

If you put flame skewer on the dueling shield and then use the ash of war it changes the ash of the scythe into yet another skill similar to the second half of the glintstone Kris.

[@nerozone_]

obsidian lamina was genuinely something I haven't learned, I subbed

[@GodSent671]

Gaius info is gold.

[@gameclips1277]

If you don't mind using a tear, the deflect tear is pretty easy to use against the charge

[@tartanno1]

I summoned Torrent just before his charge connects , that also works to get through the attack without harm:)

[@gamersreactions9267]

I did the Gaius trick for Radahns Meteors, didnt know it worked on Gaius too

[@Seandotcom]

That lamina "bug" is really interesting, and I can't help but think it might affect other weapons / ashes as well?

[@wolfy4612]

With benefit of doubt its 8 Tips. Rellana / Pontiff counted as 2 Madness Winter Lantern as 3

[@AxxmorbidfloristxxC]

They are always posting random ass tip numbers. 19 secrets, 17 secrets. You You it’s usually around 8 or 9.

[@MFD00MTR33]

Use assassin's gambit, mimic veil, unseen form or the new torch AoW to sneak past the death blight eyes. And you can kill them with destined death once you get behind them. Destined death also works on the "winter lanterns" without having to parry them.

[@michaeld2440]

As in the black blade's ash? That's such a cool detail if true

[@MFD00MTR33]

@@michaeld2440 yes. Or Malicat sword or Incan, all 3 have destined death effect and stack.

[@ThickRedPaste]

Does the sword of dark have destined death effect as well? It has the same visual effect when I use it on the shadow enemies in the dlc

[@picklejho69]

If you're having trouble with the Aging Untouchables, DoT is NOT the way to go. I would argue that this is bad advice. Even if you suck at parrying, parrying is really the only worthwhile way to beat them, as they have far too much health to burn through compared to the madness buildup they inflict and aggressive behavior. Effectively, it should take around five to ten minutes to kill one Aging Untouchable this way, WHILST you are also contending with a constantly filling madness meter, _and_ the attempts at one hit kill grapples that you'd have to perfectly avoid every single time just to not lose the progress you've made. No, you're far better off teleporting to the grace closest to the first Untouchable, and just practicing your parries on them. This will not only be less time consuming and frustrating as attempting to whittle away their health as Damage over Time (because they ONLY take the damage over time, ignoring the actual attack that applied it), but it will also get you better at parries, which can only help you in the long run. Remember that as soon as they aggro, they will charge up a black aura and teleport next to you, knocking you down (if you trigger one while fighting another enemy, like nearby frenzied rats, they may not teleport and will simply run toward you for the grapple) You can avoid this teleport attack, but it's difficult to time. However, if you let it knock you down, but don't roll out of the prone state, it's grapple attempt will miss as you're lying on the ground, though it will increase your madness a little. Then you can roll backward and prepare to parry. It might take a few goes (I got the first one on my first try, but fucked up the follow through and died to madness. My subsequent attempts I messed the parry up like five times in a row, but I got there pretty quickly), but it's well worth it, and it feels incredible to knock one of those bastards over and see the health bar appear, and then quickly disappear beneath the force of my twin maliketh black blades. Bonus, the first one in the forest closest to the grace is the one who drops the Talisman.

[@Sai-bm8hj]

@@ThickRedPaste no sword of night doesn’t do destined death damage, it only has a debuff for holy damage

[@MFD00MTR33]

You can break Radahns comet attack by jumping in a 1,2,3,4 rhythm. He just comes back down without an explosion. Pretty sure it's a bug.

[@tristanwelke7827]

That scythe thing reminds me of a weird quirk of the "ornamental straight sword" you get from the first grafted scion. 1 - Two hand them (they're paired by default) 2 - use the ash "golden tempering" to buff them 3 - use the heavy attack while buff is active (charged/un-charged doesn't matter) 4 - immediately throw a throwing knife of any basic variety (I'm not kidding) 5 - immediately use the heavy attack again. This results in your character putting the swords together and performing an uppercut followed by a downward smash. Probably not very practical but could maybe weird someone out during a duel.

[@HELLRAIN9090]

New tip: Instead of using the Black knife armor to sneak past the Untouchable ones, use the AOW Assassins Gambit (Suppresses footsteps and makes you partly invisible (Halves agro range)). I always found this AOW to be the best at eluding trash mobs on my way to boss rush and it works amazing against the Untouchables too.

[@searablacksoul]

Maybe the aow for the lamina changes to match your characters "finese" with the weapon they last used? Which would be a weird hidden feature but its like trying to copy your characters "skillset" to perform at its best? Idk how to explain it more simply lol

[@Kaotic_Falenhide]

Help from someone who commented on one of my videos on the Obsidian Lamina glitch, we found a fourth one where you do an impaling thrust type of follow-up attack using blood tax and the dueling shield.

[@RomanGuro]

6:30 As game 3D Game modeler - No) Its NOT reuse model in any case) That blank face just optimization, nothing more.

[@chrisabili3040]

The eye on the staff of the great beyond always looks at you, no matter where you rotate the camera...pretty cool/creepy. Also, wherever there are forges in the dlc, there are either demi-humans or misbegottens, either guarding or exploring, not sure why. Game tip - jump is pretty much a vertical dodge, it'll save you in the dlc (Rellana, Gaius, Messmer etc) x

[@KuroChiShikaku]

The change to that ash is very interesting and might be intentional too, blood tax not changing it may be due to the fact that both of those have primarily a stabbing animation. The reason I think this is due to how it changes them, the twin blades causes a tight spin with wind particals, but the stabbing caused an extended reach attack. The change seems to corelate to what the main function of the second ashes attack is, makes me wonder what would change with others like waterfowl and the new perfume one.

[@aurumdragonfly8948]

sullyvahn is turning into a tree, and rellana's head is proably only there so theres not a gap between her body and helmet

[@solarammy2255]

Yeah but it's still strange that it's lacking any detail at all. From soft gives almost every masked character a face in recent years so it's strange they didn't just copy renala or something

[@vanpaiaa]

​@@solarammy2255 They only do that for NPCs that use the player model or enemies that have the face already partially uncovered. Pretty sure Night's Cavalry, Eremer or Tree Sentinels don't have faces for example

[@PRchris13]

The black knife set + that talisman that makes enemy not see you from far away.. it helps a lot

[@Kaotic_Falenhide]

One I'm so happy that you noticed my comment and test it out in the video, and Two after some more testing I found one more variant, where you do a spin and then slam the scythe to the ground When you use the Swift Spear with blood tax or Black Steel Twinblade with Flame Spear

[@Valravn-R4V3N]

These tip videos come in clutch though for finding out the most random or interesting things, we will see how long the Lamina glitch sticks around or if there are any other combos you can do

[@dogbogs]

i commented this as its own comment before i saw this but it actually works with raging beast on the beast claws as well! weird spinning attack instead of the regular heavy followup from that ash. i was baffled when it happened to me update: the black steel twinblade definitely causes this with raging beast as well. just tried it

[@Kaotic_Falenhide]

@Valravn-R4V3N Help from someone who commented on one of my videos on the glitch, we found a fourth one where you do an impaling thrust type of follow-up attack using blood tax and the dueling shield.

[@eltondesouzacarneiro4811]

Gaius problems is that sometimes, the character dont keep him in the front, if you decide to block (and it haplens with attacks sometimes too) the character point the shield to nowhere and keep his back open to the boss (with attacks you just MISS)

[@hankskorpio5857]

The reason The Pontiff looks that way is because he was born from the womb of one of those sentient trees in the painted world. No joke thats his back story. Its why his soldiers can wield frost magics like Vort and some of the Undead curved sword weilders.

[@kregman6928]

a tip for gaius is actually roll directly through the boar. I might have been light equip load but I stopped getting hit entirely when i just rolled through it. the only hard part is timing that good but once timing is there its easy

[@xavier_arai]

For the madness guys, i suggest using assassin's gambit w/ blessed dew talisman. By the time u regain all your health, recast gambit and enjoy infinite invis and silent footsteps. Invis goes away at close range, but still good

[@Saeryfim]

You only need to wear the chest of the Black Knife armor set, I wear that at nearly all times. I'm so spoiled by it. It's honestly really stupid that the boots don't have any silencing effects to it, but whatever. Highly recommend wearing that all the time, and the Briar gloves all the time as well for the roll interrupt/skeletal enemy killing, or even just breaking Opaline in PvP. I'm real spoiled by silent movement, lol.

[@motivepigeon]

I love how a bug is making the Lamina actually way more usable. The normal ashe of war follow up locks you in an animation for way too long with not that much poise damage so you end up trading more often then not... which kinda defeats the whole porpus of the ashe of war...

[@yosharioIII]

That bug with Obsidian Lamina seems to transform the second part of Dynastic Sickleplay into the final slash of the Spinning Slash ash of war if I’m not mistaken. The form is takes after the twinblade is how spinning slash looks on twinblades, as Spinning Slash has different animations and properties depending on the weapon it’s placed on. That more horizontal sweeping animation from the colossal sword and great katana is the form Spinning Slash takes on both of those weapons. Really interesting occurrence. I’d love to see if it works with any other forms of Spinning Slash animations.

[@TheIdealofGreed]

6:51 I think it indicates that, like Sulavhyn, Rellana isn't the same sort of being as Renalla, and instead some other sort of "humanoid creature"

[@horrificbeauty1666]

If you use fire spear on a thrusting shield it changes the Lamina's ash follow up again to a over head slam.

[@bukamanful]

For the abysall woods, the Crepus Vial talisman also works wonders, used it and got through the whole area without being noticed one times!

[@mikeestill1672]

I messed up and didn't get any dialogue because I didn't even find her until it was too late. She doesn't say anything at all.

[@tonka9454]

If it's for the hornsent grandma, wear the giant lion dancer head and then talk to her

[@mikeestill1672]

@@tonka9454 so here's what happened. I already defeated the lion. After defeating Radahn, I started looking up videos for locations of stuff I missed. I had the key already but hadn't used it. Once I went back to use the key to go in, I didn't try to talk to her first. I just put the head on and talked to her since that's what the guy in the video did. She still just says nothing lol. Can't even hit her

[@VTindaTV]

​@mikeestill1672 it's because she is supposed to give you a quest to.kill messmer but if you already killed him she won't talk to you at all.

[@mikeestill1672]

@@VTindaTV awwwww, hella weak lol

[@VTindaTV]

@mikeestill1672 I'm stuck like that too. Haha

[@camrhodes9546]

With the obsidian lamina, just judging from the footage you showed and not any of my own testing, the first AoW change appears to be the same as the second part of the Spinning Slash ash of war, while I think the more vertical attack is one of the finishing attacks out of either Wild Slash or Spinning strikes, but I’m not as confident about that.

[@gothmog2441]

Best way I found to consistently evade the boar riders initial charge was to use Miriam’s vanishing …

[@C_O_N_C_E_P_T]

That trick with the scythe is very interesting. I like the twinblade version as it’s just an alteration of spin slash and will work better than the normal full combo it has. I have to try it

[@BladeCharade]

Raging beast aow also is effected by crucible wings aow on twinblade; possible many aow's with a follow up are affected by the bug

[@FAILMASTERTHEGAMER]

I always dodged into and diagonally for the charge and it works every time for me, but I do light roll so maybe that helps

[@matthewfisher6429]

Sooooooo I just want to make a MAJOR announcement…..shields exist in the game Elden Ring…..if a boss riding a boar is charging you just block with a shield…..thanks for coming to my Ted Talk…

[@anthonyjanes9858]

With guard talismans and finger shield maxed. Still plows through

[@leggoentertainment2947]

I just rolled evaded, his hit boxes are ass. But max upgraded zweihander chews through poise. Did back pocket throwing knives. But it took me two hours. So yeah, least fav boss because of hit boxes. His design story was fun.

[@saintreaper71887]

I did this glitch by accident the other day and was not sure how it happened until now. Thanks for the heads up

[@Killershooter16]

here is how to consistantly parry those guys: click parry as soon as his finger or staff is above his had. (normal parry shiel,not magic)

[@lolidragoonmeru9031]

There is one way to kill the untouchables as well black knifes abilitie also works takes about 10 or more abilities to kill them.but be cautious of getting hit during the blackflame ability.blackflame incantation also is effective but takes alot longer then the black knifes version .

[@Haku-Ouki]

Don't know if its been mentioned already, but with the untouchables, assassin's gambit works well. I'd imagine crepus's vial and unseen form would work as well, though I haven't tried it.

[@Ju5t4l1z4rd]

Funny enough I actually used throwing daggers as means of distraction the untouchables after killing the first one for the talisman. Glad I learned about it and not the only one to know it too.

[@Not____Applicable]

Oh wow that’s an interesting way to dodge gaius. I just banged my head against a wall waited until the very last second to dodge and rolled straight through the boars body. That way though looks way easier. Will have to try that on my second playthrough.

[@ivanrosati2055]

For the abyss I just used invisible formation. That's what I usually do when I don't wanna fight all enemies in he way

[@Caluurion]

The last tip is down right insane and I will begin the fire knight sword combo with that. Thank you for these

[@KingKebble]

idk why, but i found that dodging straight through the boar charge worked really well.

[@nemesisundead83]

Just found out, from my phone's news feed, of all thing, on Reddit, that you can store your throwable pots, and make more, just have to turn off auto fill, make more then turn it back on, i literally now have 20 heafty fire pots in my storage, give me a few DLC playthroughs and I'll have an unlimited about of furnace pots

[@nemesisundead83]

Reddit account I mentioned ReasonableTreeStump

[@LeBanoonooMan]

Diving into him to the side of the boat worked for me. Beat him in like 4 trys

[@5TailFox]

Everybody says that Rellana reminds them of Pontiff, but to Me, she more closely resembles the Dancer of the Boreal Valley, only smaller and faster.

[@adamstarkey7185]

For Gaius you can summon Torrent and double jump over that initial attack

[@CantMuffin]

You don't need those specific arrows If you aim close enough to them. They can hear the arrow land as well

[@dogbogs]

i've had the beast claws raging beast ash of war bug out and turn into a spin attack as well. i think it was the followup heavy attack part of it that changed. not sure what other weapon\ash i was using but the black steel twinblade definitely also triggers it

[@milanopiano]

The Obsidian Lamina ash of war is also crazy good against Melania.

[@talan5834]

The scythe 1 doesn't really change the move just the order of follow up slash. sword was horizontal to vertical and twin blade was vertical to horizontal.

[@LokiWasntHere]

Bro the pontiff and relana or w/e her name is are golems. The pontiff is a wood golem with roots surrounding a white stone and relana is a steel golem with chain mail as the base. That is an insane detail that only was discovered now. Wow.

[@NPC_maga]

"Hornsent Grandma" We need to have a chat...

[@TerriblyDumb]

I also used the Mimic Veil with the silent armor to just walk past them!

[@bigguccisosa9908]

Yea discovered the Obsidian Lamina bug a couple days ago. I put Stormcaller on the Grave Scythe, and was power stancing them in duels. When I switched to 2 hand the Lamina, I saw that the follow up on the AoW changed to the ending swing of Stormcaller AoW.

[@dragonmagick869]

How do tou undo the glitch?

[@bigguccisosa9908]

@@dragonmagick869 Loading a different map seems to fix it. Didn’t test if sitting on a Grace changes it

[@dyingace2318]

Well that shield that hints about anor londo being an ancient city, maybe relana is a descendant of pontiff

[@narniaphuket]

The "dead" giant dragon is actually sleeping. You can hear it snore

[@jamespalmer8632]

As far as rellana being similar to pontiff i think ive heard a lotta people say this dlc references all the other souls games or at least some of them

[@anthonylanman46]

Hey yo, the new op thorn spell, jumps gaps and holes, climbs up and down walls and cliffs and only full stone creatures are immune to it.

[@Zero-ho2sf]

does the change on the obsidian lamina only change on the ash of war from the DLC or it also change from the ashes of war on the original game?

[@carlosrenovato5847]

Was curious about what set the robes you're wearing are from?

[@DNYLNY]

For commander gaius I just hold up a great shield lol. But that tip is really cool.

[@a.m.g.b.f.n8082]

Idk if anyone knows but me and a friend were messing with the hand to hand and if you change the affinity it also changes the moveset a little

[@Jay_Z33]

Pls investigate mimic tear not working in the DLC. Mine is attacking with his bare hands using fgms occasionally despite being equipped with pest threads and blasphemous blade. People on reddit are posting lots of examples similar to mine

[@bjohns3961]

Are rellanas swords or sulyvahms swords related to the sword of night and flames at all

[@chickenchuggets6395]

I noticed that bug with the scythe but with rellanas twinblades, I was using a twinblade in a different slot with spinning slash, and then when I used the ash on rellanas twinblades it did the regular ash but if I pressed it again almost like if it was a follow up it changed into that weird wind looking spinning slash attack. very strange

[@tiaanfourie3814]

The lamentors lantern makes you basically invisible in the madness forest ... you can just sorint past them

[@Borderlines]

What an odd detail with the Obsidian Lamina! Holy moly

[@orireth5107]

The ash of war assassin's gambit also works like the black knife armour

[@archdook]

You can use Crepus's Vial in the forest. I used that against the Untouchables Ones.

[@golfRgod]

An ash that changes depending on what weapon you pair it with? Take my money!!

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Ok, I am missing two bosses for the expansion. Should I work to take them out before burning the Erdtree? Edit: that bit of dogging Gaius attacks is gold. Rellana should have had an introduction to her battle at the least.

[@f.w.3823]

Doesnt the granny cursing you out as the strumpets (Marikas) spawn not lead credence to the theory that the Tarnished may be a demigod?

[@EKk8819]

If you haven't noticed from Demon Souls, to DS1, DS2, and DS3, and Elden Ring, they re use a LOT of models and spells and weapons, bosses etc. the only difference is they get better and better in each game IMO and they add new details and switch up designs. But there's literal models from DS1 in Elden Ring I'm willing to bet, Capra Beasts and Crucible Knights, a bunch of the soldiers, Rellana and Pontis is for sure the same model just upgraded and updated. It's actually very intersesting if you play from Demons Souls to Elden Ring and seeing the evolution of everything.. Amazing really what they've done.

[@wolfy4612]

Capra Demon would more likely be Omen Killer

[@manmadeofskin4897]

I had that weird scythe glitch with the beast claws using the raging beast ash it would change the heavy attack follow up looked very strange with hand weapons

[@slayer22222]

Assassin's Gambit Ash of war on a dagger will keep you as invisible as Solid Snake under a cardboard box

[@beatsfanatic2420]

What armor are you wearing? It looks like dry leaf outfit but darker

[@zvitaly]

For commander gaius I recommend using Miriam’s vanishing

[@edwardrussell9539]

Wait so how do you get the old ash of war to work as originally intended?? Are we locked into one of these others if we do this?

[@marquiseaiken3236]

@ragegamingvideos I think the scythe ash of war is intentional seeing as its essentially a more refined free flowing version of an evasive punisher it makes sense that its follow up changes based on the weapon type you switch it from because its also much faster then the weapon type in your off hand as well just my observation and speculation

[@marquiseaiken3236]

Essentially it’s like the perfect follow up weapon ash of war for any aggressive play style because it covers different angles of evasive punishment

[@jtblk1218]

Obsidian lamina with the crystal spear has a different one as well

[@akilhutson913]

I actually really like the tip for the obsidian lamina. I hope they leave it since it doesn’t break the weapon.

[@luiskapel3020]

Many thanks for the tips and secrets. They sure do help!

[@MorbidGames666]

No fucking way rellana is a re used pontiff asset. That's amazing.

[@tylerd4884]

the intouchables can be killed with destined death as well. slowly, but it works

[@tylerd4884]

untouchables*

[@harttv7433]

If you use the black blade incantations against the death blight eyes, it stops the build up

[@mysteryneophyte]

I forgot about that bore I think I killed him instantly and never thought of him ever again

[@yodathegod7878]

I found another lamina ash and it was a faster lunge and spin than the other ones and I was so confused until now

[@zstriker1475]

If you approach grandma hornsent while cursed with the frenzy flame ending shes hostile upon entering the room

[@kofu1267]

Hornsent granny won't talk to me after defeating the Divine Beast, even when I wear it's mask.

[@xnightwraithx4098]

So far after testing for about an hour the blood fiends arm ash also changes the lamina

[@muliph3633]

Really wish those twin blades would stay glowing magic and fire. Really disappointed that they don't stay a glow

[@Sotsgorges047]

Ive seen that you can also kill the untouchables by using destined death.

[@SleepyMechanics]

Use the new fist weapons danes dry leaf ash of war, then the sickle is really nuts

[@wawrzys9824]

there is also a talisman that makes you move in silence

[@sledge3374]

There is actually something simliar to the Obsidian Lamina but it has to do with the dual wield magic swords you get from chainmail head boss lady. I used those on my first playthrough and i don't remember the conditions that caused it to change, but the stance abilites changed whenever I used something that I don't recall. I even pointed it out to my buddy that was also using the same weapons and we were doing different things. Might be worth some testing.

[@julianadams3710]

I’m pretty sure what you found is that the sword in your left hand isn’t another light great sword, it’s a straight sword. If you equip another straight sword you get the moveset as if you two handed the weapon.

[@sledge3374]

​@julianadams3710 it was the only weapon I had equipped. We thought about that exact same thing, too. It was specifically the ice sword from the special stance that changed. The fire never did. I died to one of mesmers' knights, and it went back to normal.

[@tristanwelke7827]

I think I saw the same bug. You're talking about "Rellana's twin blades" right? On my first run of the dlc I was testing the weapon out and for reasons unknown to me the ash of war changed. Normally the ash is a stance ash where the light combo shoots magic waves and the heavy causes a flame whirlwind. Well my light combo changed. Normally it shoots 5 waves. 2 on first input, 2 on second input, and 1 bigger one on the third input. Well my first 2 inputs were fine but third was off, instead of shooting a 5th wave my character would put both hands on the sword and bring it down in a chopping motion? The effect wouldn't go away either? Even if I un-equipped and re-equipped it, it didn't go back to normal until I quit to menu and reloaded into my session. Really weird?

[@henwest8750]

If you use the rellanas sword I off hand and main hand Milady, the moveset changes when you two hand rellanas. I noticed and started using it as a fun mix up, idk if that’s what you’re referring to but it’s is also a thing at least.

[@sledge3374]

@@tristanwelke7827 THIS RIGHT HERE. I also experienced this as well.