Shadow Priest Preview: Normal/Heroic Uldir

[@perfectgyroscope]

Was waiting for your perspective. Cheers man. Beard looking good btw.

[@gregoryschijvens1638]

hey publik , what addon is that you are using for those nameplates ? looks clean

[@ExiledPowerUS]

I use plater for the beta, but on live I use TidyPlates. -Publik

[@ceciliabarlow1055]

would love an updated guide for shadow priest im having a hard time hitting the numbers

[@Lan716]

I would like devouring plague and orbs back

[@j0hncramer]

looks like they sucked all the fun out of the specc and added nothing to make it feel interesting in different ways

[@Rivexd]

I hope they will fix this, I'm currently leveling a Shadow Priest and I wanted to main this class in BfA...

[@chrischartier3438]

As a longtime SP I agree with you that SP is not playing well right now in BFA. I have decided to take a break from beta until we can character transfer to get a better feel for how our toons will be affected and the stats squish really works. I think right now it's too hard to really get a feel for our SP until we can play in our current gear.

[@Immersed94]

Gonna be interesting to see how Shadow looks when we go live. I for one think that dot-management returning is a good thing. It has always been one of the things I loved with shadow, so voidbolt just extending them forever felt really boring to me. But the talents seem to be in a wierd place right now, no doubt

[@user-qd1zo3fo2j]

What nameplates addon are you using? I am using Kui but i cannot make the cooldown text appear in the icon above the healthbar fullsize

[@ExiledPowerUS]

I use TidyPlates on live, but on Beta I'm using Plater since that was working for me. -Publik

[@MrKaleMorgan]

been leveling as shadow on beta, doing the odd dungeon but i switched to my warlock for raid testing, i know numbers aren't set yet but the spec just feels so bad (shadow) compared to live, and it was always going to due to squish and going from end-game purples to questing greens but it's so drastic with shadow

[@ExiledPowerUS]

Agreed :/ -Publik

[@Gondawn]

I was saying this since the beginning of the Legion. REDUCE the damage we gain while in void form and REDUCE the speed at which insanity drains.

[@XxxTheManXxx1000]

but then the ramp up will be even longer which will be sooo much worse

[@ahbayat89]

well, if they give us power infusion as a basic spell, maybe it will help!

[@MsDaynger]

Im glad this exists, it's like shadow priest therapy. The spec is painfully slow and not fun at fn all, ive attempted some messed builds to try and find a positive exploit to get through this next xpac but no luck so far.

[@calumbir]

For me it aways felt the classes like shadow, balance, ...sucked with blue gear but more optimistic near the end :)

[@DarksoulSSE]

i wish they had just left shadow priests alone instead of trying to make them Void priests i have never missed a spec more than DoT weaving Shadow orbs playstyle shadow priest. anyone else agree?

[@_ifrit]

DarksoulSSE dot weaving was nice except the mind spike bullshit. I liked orbs and DP though. CoP needs to stay gone but they could definitely take a hint from the WoD /legión days instead of what they’re giving us. Gonna level mine for the 8.1 changes still

[@KirionF]

I've said this before and I'll say it again. This is a typical case of Blizz overreacting to complaints from people who can't play the spec. Our complaints, from people who play Spriest, had mainly to do with lack of mobility and how utterly punishing it could be to try and execute raid mechanics due to how volatile voidform could be. The others seemed to mainly complain about "voidform being too impactful" when it was the core identity of the spec and the mechanic that made it super fun to play as it felt incredibly rewarding to just fling spells 24/7 at high haste. Anyways, instead of addressing mobility issues, Blizz decided to do the opposite and increase cast times instead, instead of making voidform less punishing, they just made it a 1% stat increase you get for 20 sec every 10 sec it drops off, so basically a non-factor. They had an incredible chance now that the DoT dmg ramp up per stack of VF was gone. Either by increasing the haste per stack it gived(which they halved instead) or nerf the insanity drain per stack, allowing us to hit higher stacks reliably without feeling too punishing if you dropped it. Alas, they decided to gut the spec's identity and listen to the people who couldn't be arsed to learn how to properly keep up voidform instead. They "fixed" 2 of the "problems". Voidform's impact and Dungeon dotting via Dark Void and made the other glaring flaws worse on top of adding new, even worse flaws that simply make the spec unfun and unpleasant to play.

[@NyelleUnbroken]

I have to remind myself daily to 'stay calm' about shadow not being done yet; but honestly it's really depressing atm. The little issues they were trying to resolve wasn't worth what we traded for it. Should have just left it alone imo.

[@castiex9391]

I feel like a affliction lock cuz I gotta refresh my dots it totally don’t feel right I honestly rather level dis cuz shadow feels slow wanted to main it but now I’m having second thoughts 😐

[@aaronstrash]

What they did right: gave us actual mythic+ viability with less ramp up time on packs and high burst aoe what they did wrong: slowed the spec down, nerfed our damage (VF only being 10% and twist of fate being dropped to 15%), having to deal with DoT refreshes, VF nerfs with the haste, and in general flipped the tables; we used to be one of the best specs to bring for antorus, now we’re a better class for m+ and dropped in raid viability :/ @blizz are you ok?

[@robinandersson99]

great, the only spec i really really enjoy playing is gonna be really boring in bfa, i guess im quitting after legion then

[@Numalex6690]

This is blizzard shooting themselves in the foot. The squish plus losing all of the artifact traits plus the secondary stats getting crushed. Shadow needs the fire mage treatment with haste. 15% baseline. They accepted it was needed for crit on fire mage I would almost argue that haste is more needed by shadow than crit was needed by fire. Either way both feel dead unless they are touching the 40+% mark to start with. I do think that the 2 talents effecting mind blast should be spread between more than the 15 tier talents. There are multiple possible play styles in the talent tree right now but too many rows hold both talents that synergies with eachother. If they spread the talents around a tiny bit then even with lower haste you could speed up the pace of the spec with little effort. I'm in it to win it as disc again personally but I do want to see shadow in a better spot than it has been in a while.

[@vazgod]

yup demo it is

[@kish2810]

I've been playing shadow a fair while now, since mop, but unless they do to shadow what they just did with balance I'm going lock for sure. Shadow deserves better than this.

imo SW:D should remain baseline and make the talent work like the legendary back. (Or enhance it in some other way, maybe gets a bit repetitive to make every other legion legendary into a talent :P)

[@Sin3stra]

i dont wanna have to play a mage, but i think im gonna swap to mage :(

[@paake3134]

Then don't play, what is the problem?

[@maximechasson5710]

can i have your weak aura ?

[@Tauroi]

if you think shadow sucks, just play balance

[@PayamTavakoli]

Wow what the fuck is left of shadow? It's just an empty shell

[@Jaigarful]

Shadow needs a complete rework, but they cannot do it in time, and because azerite armor exists, its not going to happen. Its going to be terrible to play likely the whole expansion.

[@badderen92]

Void Torrent should be baseline and not a talent.

[@zickbone]

spriest most destroyed class in bfa imo, sooooooo fucking boring to play.

[@paake3134]

All this Void theme ruined Spriest, Bring Back Devouring Plague etc.