Shakespeare Wrote Propaganda! With Robert Prechter

[@amandaeliasch]

Thank goodness for both of you..

[@tomgoff6867]

I find Bob Prechter's investigations fascinating--just picked up a copy of Albion's England. The style (in Elizabethan fourteeners) seems to mark a midpoint between the Golding-Oxford Ovid and the iambic forays in the dramas (and to some extent in A Hundreth Sundrie Flowers). I also agree with Prechter's article about the strange person with a fan of feathers and a footcloth nag. The person has been (erroneously) identified as Oxford; the nag-mounted man would fit Osric much better than the De-Vere-like Hamlet.

[@mississaugataekwondo8946]

As always, very intersting discussion. And shows once again that studying a play in its historical context and engaging the life of the author is essential to fully understanding it.

[@ronroffel1462]

Thanks for another great video with Robert. Every time I see an interview with him, his theory get more coherent and believable. There is an interesting list by Edmund Howe in Stowe's Annals from 1618, which lists "Shakespeare" as the 17th poet known for English poetry, but it is preceded by William Warner, lending credence to Robert's idea de Vere wrote using that name. If I recall correctly, at least one more list of poets puts Warner next to "Shakespeare" which begs the question: was that another pseudonym? Could "Lea" (13:37) really be short for "lea-ward" aka leeward, meaning beside a ship? There is a detail about Oxford from Lea's poem at 19:18 which people and Robert might not know. We know he was in Tuscany in 1575-76, but fewer know that he fought in Belgium against the Spanish in the early 1580s, which is why "Lea" writes "through the Belgike lands". According to one biography he was serving under the Earl of Sussex commanding 400 horse. That is clearly battle experience. The "double V" pseudonym (21:28) comes from the Preface to Lyly's Pap With An Hatchet which is signed "yours Double V".

[@phoebe_devere]

Love the “Lea-ward” idea!! Thanks for watching!!

[@ronroffel1462]

@@phoebe_devere As I have said to Bonner and Dorothea, I look forward to the Blue Boar Tavern meetups. All three of you engage in lively discussion, adding to my knowledge of Elizabethan/Jacobean England and the mystery that was de Vere.

[@Nope.Unknown]

Hurray!🎉 Thank you both!!

[@ToddsBookTube91]

Interesting video Phoebe!

[@phoebe_devere]

Thank you! 😃

[@josephduran3977]

Propaganda that elevates, protects, and promotes the upper classes of England, much like we see in this day and age.

[@Northcountry1926]

Phoebe, Dr. Darren Freebury-Jones’ soon to be released “Shakespeare’s Borrowed Feathers' which will speak to the influence of early modern playwrights on Shakespeare - Marlowe, Kyd, Greene may be of interest to you & Robert

[@benc8834]

Hurrah. I mean, one might jokingly connect, or juxtapose Robin Hood with Shakespeare's plays ; Middle ages, kings and queens, tights...... Was the Robin Hood reference just a throw away line? Or did Warner possibly write a version?

[@phoebe_devere]

You’re in for a treat! Thanks for watching :)

[@robertjordan355]

Much to consider here...

[@T0varisch]

Super good as usual. I love this guy. De Vere's ancestor stood with De Montford against Henry in support of Magna carta. It's the same with Bosworth. We now know that the military genius of the day who marshalled a rebel army to punch Norfolk out of the battle and subsequently mob York's attack with Stanley's men entering from the east, not West, was John De Vere XIII. There is no mention of him in the works. I am quite certain who de vere was, but why is there no mention of the fighting Johns. You could write a comprehensive English history from 1066 to the Stuarts by just following the De Vere line.

[@tomgoff6867]

Thomas Hughes--reminds me of King Henry V agreeing to pardon a man who has railed at him in a state of drunkenness, then unleashing all the punishment due to the traitors in his ranks.

[@alainaaugust1932]

Phoebe, could not locate an answer by a scroll through your old videos. But the question is obvious: Are you related? You must have done your genealogy. Yes? No? Having watched all the other Oxfordian videos, I find yours most welcome. Thanks.

[@phoebe_devere]

It’s an internet pseudonym! Cheers

[@Northcountry1926]

@@phoebe_devereAnd we like it !

[@MsDormy]

@@phoebe_devereI’m a tiny bit disappointed!! I was on the point of looking for a family likeness! However, you would look stunning in full Tudor lady’s finery, Phoebe, and I’m sure E de Vere would be most proud of your literary know how, whatever your surname is!! ❤️ 🌹❤

[@MsDormy]

The Tudor finery must be done!!

[@JosephHewes-mm1bc]

It seems the implication is, that in addition to the massive Shakespeare canon, Edward de Vere also had a massive volume of pre-Shakespeare writings? Which might beg the question, just how much can one person write in their lifetime? I must admit I'm a little skeptical that we can accurately trace his pre-Shakespeare career accurately.

[@phoebe_devere]

I’d encourage you to dive into Bob’s work, I also initially was skeptical!

[@therealdesidaru]

We get same from CNN, NBC, ABC acting like Drumpf is normal.

[@sludge1298]

MCO here....All stations are operated from the same room. Fox at my left hand and Nbc at my right. wake up. Both wings are of the same bird.

[@therealdesidaru]

@@sludge1298 No they ain't. One of them is a narcissistic rapist liar felon surrounded by narcissistic liar traitors. The otherone is an old guy surrounded by talented people who actually have the mind to try and do well by others. They both will FAIL, of course, however there is longevity in mindfulness and rapid death with the other.

[@johnsmith-eh3yc]

Presume you dont mean donald, different spelling so cant possibly be the same man

[@BluePhoenix476513]

I don't know... Everytime the language is beautiful it's Oxford and anything less isn't?

[@CulinarySpy]

Why would you oversimplify it like that?

[@BluePhoenix476513]

@@CulinarySpy Agreed. I will watch again with a more open mind.