Library Spotlight - Cinematic Studio Woodwinds (pt.1 - The Sound & Value)

Get it here: cinematicstudioseries.com/woo...

[@aleksamrkela831]

Can't wait for Part II. As far as I'm concerned, this library blows the others out of the water, pun intended.

[@DJVipFlash]

Nah, I think Infinite Woodwinds 2.0 from Aaron Venture ist better

[@aleksamrkela831]

It's a great library, either way! Only thing that sounds tacky about it are the saxophones.

[@DJVipFlash]

@@aleksamrkela831 yep, the Saxophones aren't that good.

[@HugoPaulo]

Wow....We really have gotten to that point of realism. This sounds amazing!

[@counterpoint1014]

As soon as I discovered the release of Cinematic Studio Woodwinds, I wondered who might review it first. I checked Thinkspace Education, Sample Library review, etc. I should have known to check Cory first. I think you are my favorite sample library reviewer. As many have said, you give the sample sounds ample time for listeners to experience it as though we are playing it ourselves. As a composer, I'm confident in my skills. With that in mind, I very much enjoy your performances included in your review videos. You caught my attention during your review of Cinematic Studio Strings. The first piece you included is well-crafted and moving. Thanks for this prompt review CSW. It's the library I've been anticipating for quite some time.

[@Nullllus]

Great sound. And a nice piece at the end, as always.

[@riloh58]

Thank you as always Cory.

[@VoidloniXaarii]

Love woodwinds love your music love your presentations

[@thisislance]

Happy to see Simple Sam Samples Signature Grand make an appearance. One of my "best value" piano VIs.

[@CoryPelizzari]

It's become my go to since I used it on the video about my favourite soundtracks.

[@OliKember]

What a beautiful piece at the end there, Cory. Thanks for sharing!

[@guidryjoseph44]

When Corey reviews I listen! 😊

[@retttte7179]

Hello ! Very good demo with a demo track added - Thank you !

[@scottfoster3643]

Thank you for this very clear demonstration of the articulations.

[@filipjonathan]

That piece at the end is ridiculous Cory! The harmonies.... You're crazy!

[@tomorrett]

Sounded like pretty standard tonal harmony to me. Maybe I listen to too much Schoenberg...

[@filipjonathan]

@@tomorrett and standard tonal harmony can't sound amazing?

[@tomorrett]

@@filipjonathan sure it can - but ridiculous and crazy - not so much

[@filipjonathan]

@@tomorrett some of us are suckers for nice sounding harmonies. Doesn't matter if it's I - VI - IV - V or Schoenberg. Although personally I prefer the former.

[@BluemountScore]

Thank you, Cory!

[@coalescence3835]

For orchestral woodwinds, this is my favorite library ever. For ethnic stuff, I love CineWinds. They balance each other really well!

[@KnapfordMaster98]

That direct callout to Spitfire was shocking, but exactly what I was thinking. I had it in my head for years that their woodwinds were the best out there, and I guess maybe that was true. But the Cinematic Studio series just keeps blowing me away. Seriously considering picking this up along with the strings.

[@DesoloZantas]

Anyway, to change short notes into key switches instead of mod wheel?

[@JohnMassari]

excellent demonstration

[@NonsenseTreasure]

Great video! I know before even watching 👀 ♥️

[@ritchxmusic]

Cory would you ever consider doing a tier list? Would love to see an updated list if your favourites

[@henrik5284]

Cory has passed away :(

[@francolupo23]

This is indeed a great product for a great price. What I particularly love about it is that the performances aren't overly excited and the vibrato isn't exaggerated. Is it even too subtle for exposed lines? I believe the demo on my channel shows that it is, in fact, just perfect. It allows you to keep enjoying the sound of the instruments over the course of a full piece featuring woodwinds. A more romantic vibrato would be too much after a while. Writing that demo was such pure joy that CSW will from now on be my go-to woodwind library.

[@eylam9690]

The legato on this is sick! Shame most companies still insist on having separate patches for staccato and legato instead of taking the Sample Modeling approach, because otherwise these sound amazing. However, they sound awfully wet, even tho the reverb seems to be on zero. I guess it is cuz you are using the mix mic. I might wait for a sale and then get these. Do they work with a breath controller?

[@NebulonRanger]

5:01 I hear that Team Rocket Base in there you clever bastard!

[@maxalaintwo3578]

I never thought I'd live to see the day. I think I'm gonna cry P.S. If the marcato articulation can make sufficient staccatos and slurs at the same time, does that kinda defeat the purpose of the first two articulations? I don't seem to understand the supposed nuance

[@CoryPelizzari]

The marcato mode only offers fast slurs so it can't be used for expressive passages. It only uses the tongued staccatissimos as well, while the shorts have 4 different lengths.

[@vespertinist]

This is one library I didn’t wait to hear your thoughts on Cory. I’ve been waiting all year - but I’m listening anyway. :) Ps. Wow! What’s the song you played at the end?? It’s so beautiful & wonderous..

[@HumanTouchArt]

one random qustion how did you get your template to look so color based ... could you do a tutorial on it :D

[@xutsider]

so i was just about to download amadeus vst, luckily i saw this lol

[@orz887]

in manual is shorts have -60 ms but i dont hear that delay. what is suort in woodwinds?

[@aleksandarstojceski3139]

They did better here than on their strings.

[@JanWilkeComposer]

10:10 what is going on with that clarinet marcato? It sounds like an accordion!

[@Joel-Monterra]

There is something wrong with the stereo phase alignment... you can clearly hear the phase issues when the dynamics change

[@alontrigger]

You should make an updated video on version 1.3

[@CoryPelizzari]

Oh my god, the video had to render the contrabassoon part blank. I am so sick of Movie Studio doing this.

[@Nicdehouwer]

That's twice I see you struggle with your video software Cory. Why not just go for Davinci Resolve? It's insanely reliable and fast, and offers all the features you need. Even for the free version. I would recommend the paid version, which is also only 300€ for lifelong support and upgrades.

[@CoryPelizzari]

@@Nicdehouwer I honestly think it's my graphics card - or lack thereof - I have integrated graphics so the videos render at 2.5x realtime, which is painful to type let alone work with.

[@Nicdehouwer]

@@CoryPelizzari oh! I'd think you, as a composer with many heavy, high performance libraries, would have a NASA-type rig overall :D It might definitely be that your integrated graphics slows down rendering, but video editing software should never render mistakes, the software itself should be reliable. So drop Movie Studio, DR is very straightforward, you'll be up to speed within a couple of hours. Plus, your reviews are mostly just a vocal track playing within your DAW, no?

[@CoryPelizzari]

@@Nicdehouwer I record the vocals, then load in all the instruments and play all the parts. If the instruments take up too much memory (some patches eat up memory even if they don't load much into RAM) I have to record everything being played back in my DAW in multiple parts, rendering the audio in my DAW as I go along. Then at the end what I have is a bunch of silent video clips and a bunch of WAVs that I drop into the video editor and line up. I made a video about how I make my videos a while back. It's rather amusing.

[@Nicdehouwer]

@@CoryPelizzari what I meant was "there isn't much fast and complex editing to be done on your reviews" :) By which I meant: "if you were to swap editing software, you'd have little issues adapting to new features and controls". Might be a solution if the renders cause you stress, that's all :)

[@eylam9690]

Who thought of Home Alone, when it got to 12:30??

[@TimHareMusic]

Been working my way through the Home Alone score and the bass clarinet "villain" theme totally came to mind!

[@marLamaDeo]

Haven’t finished the video yet Cory but I’ve heard people say this doesn’t replace BWW, do you have Berlin and how do you feel they compare ignoring price point?

[@CoryPelizzari]

Well, you can't ignore the price point... And I don't understand why someone would want to "replace" a library they have when they can just use both. I haven't personally used Berlin Woodwinds but I've heard from a few users that it isn't as great as it seems so I've been hesitant to get it.

[@marLamaDeo]

@@CoryPelizzari I guess ‘replace’ as in take its spots in someone’s main template. Thanks for the reply though!

[@TimHareMusic]

@@CoryPelizzari The older version of BWW which I have is great, but the new Revive version you get now when you purchase BWW isn't as good to my ears (ymmv). The CSW legatos sound a little livelier and nuanced to me. I agree with you Cory, why not have more than one? Each has their strengths and weaknesses

[@tomorrett]

Great review. One thing that sounds a bit odd about it is the legatos often sound quite percussive, like it's tongued rather than fingered. Is that different legato modes or something? Sounds great averall though. Particularly the oboe. The the only decent vi oboe I've ever heard!

[@CoryPelizzari]

Hmm, it might be tongued legato, not sure. You might want to ask Alex about that one (the creator).

[@TiagoNugentComposer]

Nope, it's not tongued legato. that's just how woodwinds sound. you're probably hearing the key clicks.

[@tomorrett]

@@TiagoNugentComposer thanks for clearing that up for me. I'd never heard woodwinds before.

[@tomorrett]

@@TiagoNugentComposer I think I know what it is - on closer inspection I was listening to the marcato articulation, thinking it was the legatos. The Marcato does seem to have its own legato transitions, judging by the way Cory was playing them, with those fast smooth runs but they still have that bit of attack during the transition.

[@TiagoNugentComposer]

@@tomorrett Ah yeah, the marcatos have a repitition sample overlay that you can turn off if you don't want them to sound accented like that.

[@MaxiGoethling]

Cory plays dark souls, Cory plays dark souls!

[@CoryPelizzari]

I love all the Dark Souls games and Demon's Souls but my favourite is Bloodborne.

[@MaxiGoethling]

@@CoryPelizzari Good taste 🤝 My favorite turned out to be DS3, even though I played it last of the bunch. I just love its themes and the music so much.

[@CoryPelizzari]

@@MaxiGoethling Yeah I played DS3 last as well. A good blend of everything Dark Souls. Still, I think nothing beats Maria and Gehrman for boss fights and boss music.

[@ridgero]

Too late, I bought it already 5 days ago ;D

[@andrewblocker8202]

I'm comparing the sound of this to Hollywood Orchestra's woodwind. Verdict ?

[@CoryPelizzari]

Hollywood Orchestral Woodwinds has some serious problems with legato crossfading and bumpy transitions. Plus the full library takes up about a million gigs on your computer.

[@felix9711]

I've waited for this library because HOW is so damn painful to work with. The sound is not that great with their woodwinds and its easily the worst out of the entire Hollywood range. I doubt we'll get any improvements on this even with HOOPUS coming out on 21st

[@thisislance]

@@CoryPelizzari Thank goodness my 2 petabyte drive with the USB5 connection just came in.

[@CoryPelizzari]

@@thisislance I've already pre-ordered the yotabyte drive with Thunderbolt 3.

[@andrewblocker8202]

@@CoryPelizzari True but that's the only one I have so i have to work it. Berlin WW is the most realistic IMO. Waiting for Opus one ?!

[@A__S__G]

26:46

[@dacapo3750]

I tried this library today : overrated for me

[@ayr2380]

What's your pick then?

[@dacapo3750]

@@ayr2380 I prefer Spitfire woodwinds but my favorites are still Chris Hein woodwinds. No one talks about them because it's an old company with, in my opinion, a small communication budget.....Even if the sound is not always perfect, their instruments are the most expressive i know. For me, as a composer, it's essential ! I didn't try Aaron Venture...(It seems to be very good)