'Shamima Begum should come home', says terror watchdog

Shamima Begum and other British women who joined Islamic State should be allowed to return to the UK, a terror watchdog says.
Jonathan Hall KC, the reviewer of terrorism legislation, will argue that British women or those who are former citizens should be allowed to return from Syria because that is the position taken by allies such as the United States.
He is also set to raise concerns about a new generation of extremists being reared under the “cubs of the caliphate” programme in northern Syria during a speech at King’s College London on Monday evening.
Ms Begum was 15 when she travelled from Bethnal Green, east London, through Turkey and into territory controlled by the so-called Islamic State (IS) group in 2015, before her citizenship was revoked in February 2019.

[@talktv]

Should Shamima Begum be brought back to the UK or not?

[@elaine8417]

No

[@thequagmire7882]

Again no how many times you need to ask.

[@Ray-Ray_19]

Yes

[@BlueEyes499]

No

[@davehunter9342]

No, she as proved to be manipulative and unthrustworthy . She had enough sense to know she couldn't travel without an adult and stole her sisters id . Her parents tried to blame British authorities until this information was made known .

[@DavesGarden1714]

These people that want Begum allowed back in the UK are totally out of touch with many British people

[@jchatoyer]

But they are totally in line with Syrians who want her deported as an illegal immigrant who entered their country to try and overthrow the Syrian government

[@azillliasmith2734]

True.....

[@oliverkitkat6860]

Those that want her home take her too live next door too them pay for her new identity and protection because the taxpayers are sick too the back teeth pf all these do gooders. Begam showed no empathy over those children blown too bits in manchester all this grooming talk is for sympathy . Or let the lawyers pay for her and give her somewhere too live and a job with them there we go sorted . Mm thought not 👎👎👎👎👎

[@christinecraig7473]

​@@oliverkitkat6860 Well said!

[@atimans309]

No, its actually her team wants her back. Watch out. Dont let her in

[@captricharddee3634]

Why bring her back? If IS hadn't collapsed, does anyone believe she would leave there?

[@lucycope7047]

No she would be 100 percent still be there

[@knoxy6884]

That woman represents everything that is wrong with our country and why we are so soft. I wonder if she would have the guts to say these things to the victims families of the Manchester arena bombings? Especially after how remoresful SB was in her documentary. She should never be allowed to come back and anyone that thinks she should needs their heads examining.

[@nancyreid2416]

Why are we not getting to know the true horrors about this woman of evil.

[@nealmcgloin2984]

At the Age of just nineteen, Shamima was wearing the full black hijab and when asked about the Manchester bomber, her answer was that what he had done was right for all the suffering brought upon Syrian children. That I hope was used in the judges decision to revoke her citizenship for citizenship comes loyalty to a country as well as just being born in it and she shown where those loyalties lay.

[@oliverkitkat6860]

@@nealmcgloin2984 begum is a traitor too the uk

[@user-ux8pj3rf4w]

It's not that you are soft , but rather u are stupid : you have allowed Boris Johnson to destroy the UK economy while he was partying , he forbade you from being with your elderly people and dying members of family, media and conservatives convinced you that Brexit was the way forward and you shot yourself in the foot by agreeing to leave the EU while Ireland remained and is prospering , you caved to the perverted insane agenda of the LGBTQ and now your kids are being taught about pornography while your women are being preyed on by rapists be it at the pool or in jail , so keep being led by the nose by media

[@thequagmire7882]

The terror watchdog is doin a crap job if that's what they think. Wonder how many more they let through that we don't know about.

[@deanporter9936]

The terror watchdog is acting exactly as intended. Its watching YOU!

[@east_londonlad8988]

So you know more then the terror watchdog? How many terrorists have you caught in the past 6 months?

[@thequagmire7882]

@East_London Lad you don't read to well do you? try reading it again.

[@east_londonlad8988]

@@thequagmire7882 I did, so you think you would do a better job then the terror watchdog? Please share your credentials and experience with us. I’ll wait.

[@thequagmire7882]

@East_London Lad didn't say I'd do a better job I said they doin a crap one.

[@elizabethmclean6169]

If she had stayed at home in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[@minkyfran8307]

Not our problem anymore , If she was male we wouldn’t even be having this discussion, I’d like to know how her 3 kids all died too

[@annnickolls8741]

Did she have any children

[@margaretcurrie4093]

​@@annnickolls8741yes she did..

[@sara_c907]

She HAD children? I guess I have some depressing reading to do.

[@seanmcilvenie9097]

Beheaded I suppose.

[@lucycope7047]

Do we have proof that they died or are they not with relatives

[@terrybucknall7158]

Who would pay for her if she came back the tax payers would full stop .

[@YouTubestolemylife]

NO!

[@japfourme381]

Absolutely not in a million years!!

[@macmachine]

If I commit a crime in another country surely they should try me.

[@GloriaL28]

If you committed a crime far less than this in a Muslim country chances are youd never be seen again

[@nasippesak8526]

If you committed a war against your own country, yes you do not belong to the country. Remember isis is the enemy of the UK.

[@davehunter9342]

Why so much aid given to a non-british citizen who committed crimes in another country where all witnesses are now missing their heads.

[@davidgraham8058]

You don’t care about the legal system then?

[@Nickle314]

@@davidgraham8058 You don't. They have ruled, she isn't british. Do try and keep up.

[@davidgraham8058]

@@Nickle314 They ruled that but I believe the decision is wrong.

[@jrobs1133]

@@davidgraham8058 Is that the legal system in which she lost her appeal only last week? Don't you care about the legal system?

[@Nickle314]

@@davidgraham8058 It's the law. So what you need to do is lobby MPs to change the law.

[@lukeumber4486]

How about, no?

[@Gritto1445]

The rest of us say NO.

[@TG-ts3xn]

Makes me concerned about the terror watchdog doing their job!!!! Who else is here?!

[@elgun6125]

That would be just like the woke luvvies who said the Jamaican criminal should be allowed to stay instead of getting deported, and he went on to murder shortly after. We’re now paying for his prison stay. I’m sick to death of these people.

[@nancyreid2416]

This silly woman states she was groomed, what about our children groomed in our country by her faith of men and not a dam thing is done about it. How distubing is that .

[@jchatoyer]

So a Jamaican criminal should be deported but a British criminal in Syria shouldn't be deported back here?

[@elgun6125]

@@jchatoyer She has no U.K. citizenship, it was revoked for national security. Why would she be brought here? He on the other hand is Jamaican with rights unfortunately.

[@jchatoyer]

@elgun6125 So you accept that if the Jamaican government removed his citizenship he should be allowed to stay?

[@elgun6125]

@@jchatoyer No I don’t. He’s a criminal not a terrorist.

[@sonofednawelthorpe8609]

If they ever let make plans to bring Begum back they’ll be social unrest.

[@poppy1779]

The woman in the pink suit tossed her toys out of the pram when she couldn't have it all her own way. The wrong way, the unresearched cocky and arrogant way.

[@johnou.k.3780]

She was ok in Corrie , now she’s part of the looney left

[@chortlemk1]

Ffs!!! Last time it was reported we had over 30,000 suspected terrorists on the “watch list” Who should have 24 hour surveillance. That’s 90,000 watchers on a 3 shift system. We have approximately 19,000 personnel And these muppets want to add one more to the totals. Idiocy at its finest…

[@funkyboda]

No no no no!!!

[@josephcroft4268]

she wasn't always 15 , in the years out there she only had regrets when they lost

[@michaelmarshall9132]

If her in the pinks girlfriend ( don't know her name that's how important she is ) had been blown to bits in an arena she'd have a completely different opinion .

[@andsowot]

Watch this happen. They're testing the public reaction and we're being too passive.

[@edwardwillis8461]

Her husband is Dutch she can go there oh no they don't don't want her either

[@nealmcgloin2984]

Shamimas' parents stupidly didn't give her the memo? They just gave her mumbo jumbo. With citizenship comes the responsibility of loyalty to it and its citizens.Not just being born in a country,she shown no loyalty,left to join a Caliphate endangering the citizens of the country she was apparently born in, therefore we as a country owe her nothing. I personally feel too that for what she did, the UN food parcels and Tent that she is probably living in is too much for her .

[@east_londonlad8988]

Do you have the same stance towards those British soldiers fighting and dying for Ukraine?

[@lucycope7047]

Send her to her roots she has dual national just KEEP HER OUT OFF BRITAIN

[@east_londonlad8988]

@@lucycope7047 she doesn’t have dual citizenship and never has, she’s never stepped foot into the county of her parents, ever. Google it.

[@lucycope7047]

That don't change my views on her coming back here she made her choice in life you reap what you sow KEEP HER OUT YOUR A TERRIORIST REMEMBER YOU MOCKED LEE RIGBY MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD IN WOOLWICH FOR THAT ALONE ALL POINTS OFF ENTRY TO YOU IS CLOSED NO ENTRY SIMPLE 🚫

[@lucycope7047]

@@east_londonlad8988 so why leave England with her bright self and go to isis country's and laugh at the heartache and trauma caused by isis your one off them now stop making out your broke and have nothing YOUR FAMILY HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING YOU ALL ALONG SO THEY CAN KEEP SENDING YOU MONEY AND SUPPLIES YOUR GONNA NEED IT

[@cherylk.2474]

If she was trafficked, what are the names of the traffickers? Who forced her to leave the country? There is a video of her walking to get onboard an aircraft and there are no men around her.

[@christinecraig7473]

As the public are the most affected by terrorist attacks, because the tax payers are picking up the bill for her legal costs and because if she was to be allowed back into this country we would be paying for everything we should be told everything she was involved with, there should be total transparency. Then as the people who would be most affected by the ramifications we should have the decision on this and not the wealthy lawyers ect who go back to their leafy suburbs or country homes nicely away from the real world.

[@dianecameron137]

terrorist always say they are reacting to what happens to children in other countries because of Britain or whatever country got involved but dont look at what their own people are doing to their own people if we dont go in to help we are damned if we do go in we are damned she made her choice and stuck to it so she can stick to it now

[@royboy6301]

She is home, she rejected Britain.

[@lucycope7047]

100 percent aggre

[@sandraharris3605]

Aww ffs she made her choice so leave her over there

[@sublimebeauty1]

NOOOOOOOOOO!

[@kellykreqeli8924]

She isn’t the only one I’m sick of hearing it’s to do with her race that we won’t allow her back what about jihadi jack? He was English and Canadian and he is not allowed back he had duel nationality so he is trying to go to Canada and he was just stripped they made their bed going knowing what they were getting in to what about the victims or don’t they count?

[@jameswilson8820]

She can stay where she is🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@tenniskinsella7768]

No.

[@bobycrush5413]

What will she confess to in Court ? this is the question. Nothing.

[@terryjacob8169]

Can't help feeling a drone strike would permanantly resolve the problem.

[@Neucleus]

There are children in that camp.

[@markennyee]

only a Narcissist will argue when there is no reason to argue

[@samsonlifa6312]

No not at all because if she wanted to go there then it's tough luck basically.

[@bigCyril]

No way !

[@christofferknight8567]

Why has she changed her visual image

[@donnaspeer2760]

I think that lady in pink was made to look very silly.

[@danjones3746]

Nooooooo

[@angelinaperfumes]

No!

[@herbertjohnston4608]

No way to hell with her.

[@mre7550]

No way, we dont want her back

[@cazii9419]

No never

[@davidhollings9483]

Just wait....I'm sure that at some point she'll be allowed back...then we'll see her get a book deal, interviews and she'll become extremely wealthy...just like Malala Yousafzai. What happened to her was terrible but why did her entire family end up in the UK....and free education at the taxpayers expense.

[@quinnitaj4653]

She should pay for her court hearings. Rather than using the UK 🇬🇧 legal aid.. Couldn't make it up, what a piss she shouldn't be brought back end of.

[@Lazaromendez131Azteca]

How much money that lady is getting paid?

[@criticRN]

Do her victims not count? They have no voice !!

[@anthonypickup8697]

Who is this wolly in the pink

[@marioskublan7273]

Come on Kevvy boy …. Pipe it down ya potato peeler

[@SuperJammygit]

Wtf has all this cost

[@johnconaboy9461]

We are getting invaded daily on our Kent shores, the government doesn't seem to mind the countless illegal men entering old blighty with no paper work, she made her choices unfortunately who do you look at I think her parents should have some responsibility as to why she is now where she is, they didn't know where she and her two pals were off to PLEASE!

[@patgregory4320]

Well said

[@andrewhamilton3872]

Never never

[@fenellasharman7410]

Leave her their

[@marioskublan7273]

Comin’er takin our passports

[@jchatoyer]

'Allowed' to come back is the wrong word, she should be 'made' to come back; what she wants shouldn't matter. She is a British person who illegally entered Syria, so of course she should be deported, just as we would expect a Syrian to be deported who came here illegally to join a terrorist organisation bent on overthrowing the British government. She is our responsibility not Syria's, bring her back and punish her here if we must. We can't cleanse this country of bad people by removing their citizenship, we should accept that there are good and bad people here as in all countries and deal with the bad by punishment or rehabilitation. Or do we agree with the racists, that, people with traceable heritage to other countries are not fully British and their citizenship is only conditional, so that victories by Britons in the Olympics or as part of British teams are not full victories, achieved as they are by 2nd class Britons.

[@jsemplefelton5348]

She has been stripped.d of her British citizenship. No longer our problem.

[@jchatoyer]

@@jsemplefelton5348 She is British even if not so on paper, her Britishness is not for these political opportunists to decide; by that measure we could strip Rishi Sunak of his British citizenship if he does a bad job as prime minister. Let's hope countries whose citizens illegally come here to commit crimes don't try the same trick so we can't deport their criminals

[@Jackie157_]

Omg the money British people paying for this woman lost her case and still getting air time move forget about her

[@bestreply2650]

They got a chewing gum ....they are enjoying 😂

[@mathewduffy5827]

I wonder if they'd be happy for her to come back if she was to move in next door to them because she'd have to live next door to someone

[@sarah6292]

This isn't her home anymore

[@TJExodus]

Let the people who want her back in Britain put her up, bet they won't.

[@jimstar83]

Too much racism here weres the hummanity

[@missadventuresmotorcycledi2773]

The children can never be held guilty for the crimes of thier parents. The parents however...

[@davidtomkins2152]

Legal challenge surely sewing terrorists into explosive vests isn’t legal

[@peterwright5249]

If a dog born in a stable doesn’t make it a horse now dies it 🤔

[@cliftonjones3012]

The goverment is absolutlely rigt.but i think what does a 15 teen year old kid knows.ithink m.i.5.can handle this if she returns.

[@hayleyfay4779]

Are the watch dog people lost their minds....

[@anthonypickup8697]

She is home. The Syrian government should prosecute her.

[@fabinnocent7090]

What if both her parents are white British, would her British citizenship still be yanked off?

[@jallan9578]

Well ... they obviously AREN'T! And if they were, that doesn't entitle her to something she has not only not earnt ... but has spurned!

[@Cartmell10]

Im not defending her. sounds like that is what you are doing . Like others have said , this woman is exactly whats wrong with this once great country.

[@UKdraxion]

Why are people still defending terrorists?

[@BarnaySlb]

Let her stay there

[@TheMSS1977]

Fiction in Red.

[@jackhumphries6687]

She was brainwashed and didn't know what she was doing as she was only 16....also, kids can self identify at 6 as they are fully aware of their actions...can't have it both ways

[@johnross2924]

And the 17 year old that Prince Andrew got up to no good with didn't know what she was doing. You can't have it both ways!

[@ChrisM-lb8xw]

I suggest terror watchdog moves to Syria and live in the camp with SB 🙃

[@John-sp9kw]

This isn't her home and the jihad ideology and it's followers haven't been invited here by us and can anybody remember sending an invite ?

[@merv5492]

Shamima Begum be brought back to the UK, WHY, she is as bad as the men, and tell her to go and live with her dad, and why she dose not wont to do that, is if she lives with her dad she will not have the same rights as a man in that country

[@ediwillvin6815]

she should get on a boat

[@unclem7816]

Will be attacked within 3 months

[@zepfanforever6502]

NO

[@timcomley5948]

The old Corrie actress is to the left of corbyn 🙄

[@laurasands8322]

Straight home and onto every benefit going, how much is that going to cost the taxpayer? also security, she'll have to be monitored 24/7 by MI5 ,how much is that going to cost as well? She's not even here and she's costing us,the taxpayer's a fortune in legal aid. The thing is too that if she arrived here illegally we couldn't deport her because she's stateless.

[@elisabethpitt6103]

Shamima Begum was NOT GROOMED. SHE WENT ON HER OWN VOLITION WITHH. THREE OTHERS. SHE IS NOT A CHILD. SHE IS A YOUNG ADULT. YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE HERE. if just one person gets killed because of her, those advocating her return should be held responsible.

[@palerider955]

So we're just going to keep being asked until we give in and let the traitor come back?

[@Yvonned2011]

She was not a victim she made a choice she should stay where she is

[@stephenhancock4258]

leave the skum there

[@bajiraogujar1]

Shamima Begum, the radical Bangladeshi born in Britain is a British problem, says the African and the Arab born in Britain.😁😂

[@yvonnerout7319]

go away let this person back not on your nelly

[@samuel-ut2md]

She didn't commit the crime in the uk

[@gungeIigung]

So she should stay and suffer the consequences where she is.

[@bcoxal]

Shame-eema

[@bettyholmes1155]

And have free housing and live on benefit forever

[@captain9035]

The only reason she's having such difficulties is her name and identity. There are many who even fought in such wars who are in UK now.

[@TheMSS1977]

End of argument yes!

[@sarahwhite5621]

I do believe this girl has made the most appalling choices but one thing I do know is that not all 15 year olds are the same. The girl felt very isolated and didn’t feel part of this country due to racism and made the mistake that she would be accepted and loved elsewhere and able to be closer to her religion. She was stupid and wrong but really didn’t know what she was doing. Also when she talked about the heads in bins she had to say it didn’t affect her because the women in the camp WOULD have beaten her. When a 15 year old feels isolated they may run away with someone or anything as their emotions are so high. Those that say their 15 year old is stable and would never do such things, they are lucky because they probably came from a very happy and content family environment and no external issues. This does not mean she isn’t wrong but a 15 year old has a completely different mindset especially when so unhappy than say an 18 year old or something. This girl needs to be tried somewhere but she will be a totally different person now to that of her 15 year old self. She was stupid and underestimated where she was going as well. She definitely needs to be imprisoned somewhere although she believes herself that she will never leave the camp ever.

[@blaxtru]

Wot a typically balanced TTV debate. Izzy, Kev and Mike: Rupe Murdoch has just renewed your contracts. Continue to talk over and shout down those who deign to question your words of wisdom and your fans will laud and applaud. And it's viewing figures that matter, innit?

[@davidgraham8058]

It’s so interesting reading all these comments from everyone who clearly despise the legal system in this country. Nobody believes in the principles of innocence before guilt or the right to a fair trial, as you can tell by the way TalkTV talks about Shamima Begum.

[@jrobs1133]

Innocence before guilt? She literally joined the Islamic State. It's not up for debate. Guilty.

[@thequagmire7882]

Her stitching on bomb vest, picking up heads after execution and patrolling the isis camps keeping other girls/women in line with sharia law which she admitted to, is something that wouldn't bother you if she came back to this country??

[@robinstreets1792]

You need someone to call you a waaaaambulance for your hurty feelings. We don't want her back

[@haza123b4]

*They do believe in those principles...depending on who's accused.*

[@andsowot]

Yes an invention of British culture. We want them and all of you who undermine that out!

[@evelynel3373]

Yes… you cannot leave a citizen stateless. We need to deal with our own problems, and she is one of them. We wouldn’t tolerate other countries just dumping their criminals on us. This is a hypocritical stance on the part of the UK.

[@minkyfran8307]

She isn’t stateless , She’s got Bangladeshi citizenship through her parents

[@timtan2023hiyffg]

Exactly she isn't stateless, her being stripped was lawful at the time.

[@davidgraham8058]

@@minkyfran8307No she hasn’t. Even if she has, it’s illegal to send someone to a country where we know she’ll be executed by the state.

[@davidgraham8058]

Congratulations Evelynel3373, you are the only person here who actually defends the legal system for all British citizens.

[@timtan2023hiyffg]

@@davidgraham8058 but she was dual citizenship with Bangladesh so it was lawful at the time. Why are you so keen to have her back? Like why?? She joined a terrorist group, planned her trip meticulously, was enjoying it when things were going well for ISIS. Now she wants to come back. No, maybe dont join the most insane terrorist group ever that literally wanted to kill everyone who didnt support them, including other muslims. Decisions have consequences. Maybe it will deter future nutters

[@victorrsmk2]

Why so we can pay for her aswell

[@reegonfall8866]

Alexander Mercouris 👍