"She's a dangerous individual and a liar!" - Mike Graham on Shamima Begum

Mike Graham condemns former ISIS member Shamima Begum for her citizenship appeal.
Begum lost her challenge over the decision to deprive her of British citizenship because she is a threat to national security.
The panel discuss whether the decision was the right one made.
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[@DavesGarden1714]

How can Begum claim legal aid when she is not a British citizen

[@occupier123]

Exactly

[@pollyanne234]

I wondered that

[@MyMccarron]

Same here

[@jacquelineithell307]

BECAUSE YOU CAN IN SOFT TOUCH BRITAIN , SIMPLE

[@marioskublan7273]

I suppose though it is rescinded there is still the right to challenge and if you and your family’s income is low and meets a certain threshold then you (or rather the lawyers) get tax payers money to challenge it

[@starrycrown]

There is evidence that is not open to the public for security reasons, but the court saw it. And said no.

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

Bollocks What “security reasons”?

[@timtan2023hiyffg]

​​@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. err the fact she joined the most evil terrorist group on the planet. Why should she be allowed to come back. She knew what she was doing, she meticulously planned her departure. Stay in Syria.

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

@@timtan2023hiyffg Keep up mate. We’re talking about “evidence not open to the public”

[@timtan2023hiyffg]

@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. who cares, there was evidence apparently not privy to the public I'm aware of that. It would cost a fortune to monitor her, she'd be on the dole etc. She can rot in syria and set an example for any future nutters as some sort of deterrent not to join a crazy terrorist group that kills and manes citizens of our country and wants to destroy us all unless we convert.

[@JavaAndroid]

@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Did her parents and community groom her? Can't be letting that out.

[@revamp777]

Get the lawyers money back , legal aid is not foreign aid.

[@chucks6781]

It wont stop now its just the beginning now that her lawyers have got their snouts in they wont let go of the gravy train its worth thousands upon thousands of pounds i reckon that once refused one appeal thats it not on & on

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@chucks6781 true it's a lucrative life long career for some......

[@lisasmith2660]

She has shown no remorse, and even said she would do the same all over again

[@margaretwatts1620]

She watched as they beheaded people and she laughed .she said this herself. And you think she isnt a threat.

[@mohandhanoa4797]

Leave her where she is , She looks healthy enough and seems to be doing well .

[@user-lr1ty2nr1g]

Exactly

[@Bond786sideye]

Shes got a bad track record. We cant stand for terorism as muslims. She can act in the crime movies war films and action movies.

[@Jennyxx-ie5jw]

Fr doesn't look malnourised or remorseful

[@warwicktregurtha4198]

Out, out and keep her out.

[@ianbetts4266]

She should get the same treatment as her victims.

[@pauljames2050]

Bye bye Shamina

[@janeday9148]

This country should not be spending huge amounts if money on this women ,legal aid !!! this country is crazy !!

[@willmac5642]

She hasn't told the truth. That's the problem.

[@Princ3ssyazyaz]

Im so shocked I can’t believe these people are trying to fight on her behalf it’s unbelievable

[@Ihatemoneyy]

They get paid loads of ££££

[@aammm7407]

Why not? Has she been put on trial? Is the clear proof that she’s guilty?

[@Princ3ssyazyaz]

@@aammm7407 I’m not even gonna give a response for that your clearly not in your right mind

[@gungeIigung]

@@aammm7407 yes, there are clear proof that she is guilty of joining lSlS.

[@paigeawin]

@@aammm7407 Are you blind? Deaf? Dumb? All of the above?

[@garyhart8676]

She is not British and never will be......

[@azillliasmith2734]

Wonder where she is getting the money from for solicitors?

[@misstery5475]

British tax payers??? At the moment, British are unlucky, we have too many politician spend tax payers' money just for waste spending spree. That's why the poor teachers, medical workers, .. keep doing strikes ☹

[@lsmith9249]

she was allowed legal aid to fight against losing her British citizenship which was widely reported at the time,

[@margaretgraham6825]

You're paying for her legal defence team

[@lsmith9249]

@@margaretgraham6825 and she was entitled to that by law,

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@lsmith9249 the law is an ass

[@daveykerr1146]

She was not trafficked ffs

[@barryetheridge6639]

Well there's a surprise the black man sticking up for her why doesn't he go and join her

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

Aha that’s logical, because Sajid Javid and Suella Braverman are really white aren’t they Barry? Tool

[@stanbily9416]

Right 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@JavaAndroid]

BLM Begum's Life Matters. 🤣

[@GloriaL28]

There never that caring to go join her🤣good comment though

[@chuckynickolodean8420]

Exactly, that is what I thought...

[@chrisgingell]

I blame the lawyers all they want is the money,she has no right to be back in the uk

[@julieviollet1657]

Stop giving her legal aid. The British tax payer, should not be paying her legal costs.

[@chele277]

Who's paying her legal fees

[@lsmith9249]

she was allowed legal aid to fight against losing her British citizenship. which was widely reported at the time so i'm surprised you don't know that,

[@cjryan88]

Britain is

[@lsmith9249]

@@cjryan88 her citizenship could not be taken away without giving her the means to fight it

[@loridelafuente2548]

The host should pay her legal bills since she is fine for the British people for footing the bill when I am sure they are struggling with expenses.

[@abazely2743]

Perhaps a ghostwritten 'autobiography' will pay for Begum's mission.

[@XboxGames705]

she is not a British citizen

[@KukLuv]

The lawyers representing her should be ashamed of themselves 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🥃

[@adeko8578]

You should be ashamed of yourself. Full of unabashed hatred for a girl who was 15 years when she made this appalling move. If she was white you would be praising her for being a child trafficking surviver and gladly be contributing to a go fund me account to rehabilitate her. Double standard at play here.

[@ousahayden6738]

No don’t want her back

[@RobBoon1967]

How is it that all her children died?

[@Cate7451]

Movi ng them about inand living in a war zone. Pretty sad.

[@RobBoon1967]

@@Cate7451 bollox

[@MyMccarron]

Very strange

[@Princ3ssyazyaz]

Am I the only person that thinks that she had something to do with it

[@JaneRender]

I wonder if they ever existed. She always made sure the blanket covered what would have been the baby's head .why? .

[@raystephenson9598]

Stop giving her legal aid

[@wandyy8078]

Surprised talk radios not hired her yet then.. or Westminster? BBC? Shes fully qualified...

[@macmachine]

If she ever gets back her career's sorted. Enningfield Vogue front cover, chat show storm, tell-all book , podcast, etc. Make a fortune.

[@brendatenorio5721]

Host is out to lunch, her logic is skewed.

[@user-ey6rz3fv5y]

Her lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank and they are still looking for more money she

[@PATTERDALE78]

I was in the military for 22 years I spent a good part of that doing close Observation on active targets like her. The intelligence they will have on her that the rest of us will not or never be aware of is what’s keeping her out.

[@sykco2006]

Interesting, I’m guessing there’s a lot of information that would be hidden from the public?

[@kerryneylan7978]

@@sykco2006 The first couple of days of her last hearing were quite public but when the M16 gave his or her evidence it became secret squirrel. Disclosing intelligence can put third parties at risk.

[@sykco2006]

@@kerryneylan7978 that sounds about right tbh. I just find it mental it has come to this. Can’t the government just say she is a risk for these reasons so she’s not aloud back. But there is never a proper statement given with facts, it’s annoying

[@kerryneylan7978]

@@sykco2006 It's frustrating although even in the worst case scenario the fo gooders would still want her back. What ISIS did was genocide and it's unacceptable to think people like her can just come back to a comfortable life.

[@PATTERDALE78]

It’s no secret that isis wife’s were used as enforcer’s against other females this is one of the things that she has been said to have done. There are other Isis female fighters and wife’s that have said she was in training camps with them on her documentary when asked she said no comment. When her isis Dutch husband was in prison she lived with a isis arms dealer very high profile member when asked about that no comment. There is witnesses saying she helped to make suicide vest as well.

[@blake9358]

Trafficked? She was 15, old enough to know between wrong and right Criminal accountablilty starts at age 10! The age of consent is 16

[@barriewilliams4526]

No, she should not return. She might have been 15 when she left the UK on her humanity mission, but she didn't stay 15, and what she did during her humanity trip showed just what an evil person she is. She has not changed one iota, she has been advised to show remorse to try and get back into the UK.

[@timsavini2585]

I bet the hours just fly by in that female solicitors house.

[@James-sj7pl]

Strange we are concerned with one horrible person when we have thousands of these Muslims coming in on our beaches !

[@ybet1000]

She is living with her Muslim friends .. what is she unhappy about? Not allowed to have slaves? No communal beheadings?

[@razachaswills5076]

Didn’t she marry a Dutchman while she was out there, and if so, surely she should apply to the Netherlands assistance and financial help? Or maybe she already knows what the NL Govt would most likely say to her? 😂

[@mohammedpanju2236]

The Dutch would tell her to #@*@ OFF.

[@susanbaynham-evans8453]

5 times this case has been tried ! Bonkers move stop giving air time to this criminal.

[@adeko8578]

With the home office ministers we have had in the last 5 years (May, Patel and, worse of all Brraverman) it is not a surprise and most importantly Shamina is not the right person to appeal to the British public. She needs to bleach her skin and change her name to Karen.

[@natsohigh5552]

There is no evidence of trafficking.. The judge said you cannot base a case on a suspicion of trafficking which means there isn't a stitch of evidence to say that she was. They just said she was.

[@angelamary9493]

Let her go and live with her Parents in Pakistan ..why should the British Tax Payers pay for her trials and her keep ..she knee excactly what she was doing ... REMEMBER: She witnessed Journalist heads being Cut off ... probably even participated in the heinious crimes ..We Don't want this Evil being here in our Country ..we have enough walking around our Towns and Cities ...your part of the Problem here ..

[@lucybrowne62]

For the people arguing that she was only 15 ect… in the Uk yes there are child abduction laws however persons of that age in the UK can still be held accountable for crimes. Jamie Bulgar killers were TEN years old and were deemed to have understood what they were doing , she was 15 and knew exactly what she was doing . If UK people want to join ISIS fine but you automatically lose citizenship and remain in the country you have travelled to

[@Horizon344]

IMMIGRATION REFERENDUM required

[@James-sj7pl]

Blacks will always support blacks whatever they have done !

[@stanbily9416]

Shamima is not Black.

[@marcellespencer124]

James, that's not true do you know any. Waiting for your made up stories now. 🤣🤣🇯🇲🇬🇧

[@thasultan]

Exactly. When Buku Haram killing Christians everyday in Nigeria then where this Nigerian black was? Exactly black supports black. Those who support Shamima Begum are criminals. Stop legal aid. Job done.

[@darrenporter1850]

Lawyers cashing in too

[@Alan399]

WHO IS PAYING SHAMIMAS LEGAL FEES? HOPE IT'S NOT THE TAXPAYERS.

[@georgeanthony4834]

it is

[@ngahe82]

Well done ✅💯UK..

[@neilroberts5434]

If Isis hadn't been defeated would she be wanting to come back then ? That's the question

[@marcwilliams9824]

Your question gets straight to the heart of the matter. Had she asked to return to the UK whilst ISIS was still going strong I *might* have some sympathy, however...

[@joebloggs2403]

if they said no its no

[@iainrae6159]

Advice to all 15year olds. When someone tells you it is your duty to follow a supernatural Gods wishes, tell them to sod off.

[@emmarentiastipp2103]

Why is this God's fault? What happened to individuals taking responsibility for being hatefull, selfish and not following God's moral laws. They use God as a scapegoat for their agenda.

[@user-fu7mk6ge8u]

Well said Iain Rae.

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

She would have had to go on line and search for these people to begin with

[@alastairgordon-forbes3139]

She’d get a job at the BBC (British Bashing Corporation) like a shot. She’d fit in well with that lot.

[@lesleycooper7544]

And write a book GETTING FREEDOM. YOU PAY. HARRY WILL BE HER GHOST WRITER. THEN FILM. NETFLIX DEAL JUST GREAT

[@marcwilliams9824]

There are a bunch of pro-Begum documentaries on BBC Iplayer and Sounds.

[@ahh980]

Keep her away she's a clear danger to the public

[@paulbentley2078]

Let the dog rot!!!

[@artimuddaiah9711]

Good. She is a time bomb.

[@TPT6148]

A dangerous individual and a liar? Should be in government!

[@EnjoySynthSounds]

The only winners are the lawyers. Disgusting waste of taxpayer money fighting this clear cut case of criminality.

[@rosepetal903]

I fully agree but I think most of our politicians are a threat to national security too !

[@billyy123]

Costing to much money don't let it be lives forget her and move on

[@kennyjackson1234]

Watch the GB news interview with Andrew Drury who in turn had interviewed Begum,it speaks volumes.

[@ThebeardofCrunt]

Well I'm not sure putting her in prison here is much of a deterrent. Let's face it she spend 6 months in there and get let out. Leave her in Syria and hope she doesn't make it to Calais.

[@iancarnell5020]

I find there is a wonderful irony in all this. People are agonizing about letting her in.What about our completely open borders where any Tom, Dick or Abdul can wander up our beaches completely unopposed carrying a nuclear, biological or chemical weapon under their arm and nobody turns a hair.

[@jacquelinedunne8641]

Awesome

[@anthonyburrow3383]

How can she afford these legal people

[@miloo3969]

Mike ❤

[@RabJ208]

Completely agree Mike Graham!

[@blankiki]

Ay the she oggi 12 you already know what wrong and right . What’s very telling is that she doesn’t seem to be remorseful. Or apologetic.

[@japfourme381]

Absolutely!!

[@thomasbaillie-carrigan3100]

Great debating this subject, but we, the people of the UK want them all out. Anisiobi is obviously ill informed. In fact, what a shambles panel.

[@1953bigbrother]

The only winner's here are the lawyers, I'm glad she's lost ..

[@AnaCeciFrutos]

I'm so sorry to meddle in British affairs, but when you are 15 years old you know what is wrong and right, she was not trafficked, she willingly got on a plane and travelled to Syria. She is not the tragic teen who was kidnapped and trafficked, she went willingly, and she has to pay the consequences for that action.

[@chuckynickolodean8420]

She cannot be trusted, she was not trafficked, she went of her own accord, keep her out...

[@Moon-cl3pq]

Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act. She was never forced into anything, she may have been convinced but that’s not the same thing, she chose to go. If my friend convinced me to go on a holiday with them to Spain and I agreed and was excited to go, I would not have been trafficked. Simple as.

[@rositadacunha1331]

Win for the UK

[@jamesward4191]

How many more times?

[@Andrea-ld9cy]

Y is it even being given air time let alone legal aid

[@rosalindrajaratnam1836]

Good, thank you for denying her appeal

[@chucks6781]

I thought that she married a Dutchman

[@AngieLea]

There are thousands in prison that are a danger to society. Grooming is a real thing.

[@jimmeer]

She has demonstrated what she is and I don't like it. The problem we have in the UK is that there is always someone with a big mouth who feels that shouting louder than anyone else is the way to win- and we are stupid enough to fall for it. So many people just want to get on with otheir lives, but we have seen how our politicians let us down, so I think we are just going to have to get involved to overcome these few vocal nutcases.

[@adeletait3558]

The idea that she was trafficked makes me laugh! She stole from her parents, including her mother's gold. Sold it all for a ticket and left! There was no trafficking involved! It's a load of BS... And on top of that, going and joining isis, the recruiters advise before hand that the women are to be married to a fighter. That is their role. All of this has been uncovered. They were promised a man, promised rewards in the here after for their duties, etc. And that's what made her and her friends run off. Intelligence proved she was a recruiter aswell, once she was there. Not to mention she was put in charge of other female wives to make sure they followed the rules. They gave her power, and at a very young age. They wouldn't have done that if they didn't think she was bright and capable.. This is a very manipulative girl and doesn't deserve to set one foot back in our country. Let her rot!

[@stephenlaw9886]

I am concerned for the safety of the two stupid solicitors acting on her Behalf. Anyhow,who is paying their fees,begum is not a British citizen.Itsa disgraceful use of British funds

[@angiii204]

he who defends a monster also a monster

[@lilspeth]

I wonder who is backing her.

[@swethamartensson383]

She can return to UK and recruit more girls

[@mushrafchipy586]

Yes she spread the teaching of Cult pagan ideology religion of islam 👎

[@Souperflysi]

3:56 she is a British citizen and we chose to wash our hands with her. But She chose to was her hands with our country. Don’t let her back in, forget that she exists

[@louisebrown4622]

That woman is totally wrong she shouldn’t be on her.

[@tofurakhanom2644]

I feel so bad for her parents how can she just leave her family,,I've lost my dad 3 years ago and still find it so hard and miss my dad so much Sorry why should our tax payer's pay for her

[@macmachine]

Doubt she's a physical danger, but denying her entry is a lesson to future Shaminas.

[@boranbkk4270]

Maybe not physically dangerous, but she could radicalize others in prison here.

[@Againstthesins]

There are millions of these species in UK now. You can't manage after a certain time.

[@stratfordbaby]

She could build a bomb. Drive a car into a crowd. That's a PHYSICAL DANGER.

[@gachaapfel2926]

@@Againstthesinswhat do you mean with that and which species?

[@darrenmaclaren5352]

Those who argue for her to return to the UK to face the legal system, know that the rules change once she steps foot on British soil. Once here, it’ll be almost impossible to get rid of her, and they know it. They are also aware that any sentence that she receives will be minimal.

[@seanhuds7351]

Shame they wouldn't just hang her for treason like they did in the good old days.

[@soumenbhattacharyya7443]

These media people call opportunities.

[@riturathore4487]

Good decision

[@nlryan1]

Keep thinking of the series Bodyguard, it’s a fine line and she has learned how to survive which is the scary bit

[@danceteachermom]

WHERE did she get the money for her NOSE JOB? Compare the pictures of her nose when she was wearing the Muslim garb and the latest picture of her in her western clothes.....🤔

[@gabriellecunningham7196]

She's had the makeover 🇦🇺

[@philipwood9526]

The BBC probably.

[@danceteachermom]

@@gabriellecunningham7196 Agreed! 🇺🇸

[@danceteachermom]

@@philipwood9526 I suppose. Just like here, taxpayer's 💰! 🇺🇸😤

[@lesleycooper7544]

TEETH NEXT. FILM AND BOOK DEALS

[@martinbrown983]

But what about the rest who are walking amongst us and we are not talking about one or two it's thousands

[@emmyreturn]

She heartless and does not deserve a second chance. Because she has said the does not see anything wrong when ISIS beheads innocent Christians. She should be in prison.

[@misspoes8362]

Actions have consequences, you learn that at a very young age, so for the love of god, stop defending her and just leave her to fade away in where she is right now. How can you defend her behavior when you think of the victims and relatives of the terrible acts of IS. She even defended the horrible actions of IS!

[@TheMotherofSevenkids]

All this is about values. Her values she got from home. Her family can go there to her. End of problem.

[@neilcorkin7183]

If she did get back in UK will she not be done for treason

[@williamthurl2607]

Human Rights....

[@razachaswills5076]

It’s not human rights, we are giving her, it’s rights for “inhuman” persons. She watched prisoners bring beheaded without showing any emotion. How inhuman is that?

[@animalian01]

I don't care,she is a traitor, and that is all that matters.she knowingly went on the Internet to look for the stuff,she engaged in it, and it was not grooming

[@394pjo]

Shamima Begum is such a silly girl. None of this was really necessary. All she had to do was travel to Calais and join the 500 a day migrants coming across the channel in rubber dinghies with no passports or ID's. She would have got a Royal Navy escort to Dover then be placed in an Ibis hotel somewhere in the english countryside where she would now be filling out the ten page citizenship questionnaire the Tories approved a few days ago practically guaranteeing the right to remain to every one of them. In this event she has been badly advised.

[@biddlelove2135]

Ha ha ha ha ha! Foreign muck!

[@socratesarvanitakis8547]

I do not believe that wolves can become dogs, nor that criminals can become useful citizens. But even if they do sometimes, I never forget and very rarely forgive their criminal past. Will the British ever learn that the more you give to these people, the more they take and make you look like fools. Never allow back to the country criminals already convicted by British law. And let the "humanist" lawyers argue all they want. The case is closed as far as the people of Britain are concerned.

[@clandonald1498]

Did she not marry a Dutch Irish fighter so she has defacto Dutch citizenship

[@lesleycooper7544]

Yes. And they spoke to him. HE WANTS HER BACK. SORTED

[@Jennyxx-ie5jw]

I think hes half dutch balf indonesian not irish