Shaming the Sick: Substance Use and Stigma | Dr Carolyn Greer | TEDxFortWayne

[@ShannonWiebold]

Great talk and as an addict, i agree with EVERYTHING the doctor spoke about. Stigmas on addicts need to change in order to save lives.

[@sarahcouture24]

Thank you for speaking the evidence based truth on this highly relevant and distressing topic. I hate the stigma. I hate the policies. I hate the war on drugs and the pervasive ignorance in this country. So thank you for being a voice for change.

[@philmccrevis5364]

This is my Dr. She is the best thing that's happened to me, outside my wife and kids. Phil is NOT my real name, I don't want the "stigma", hence the fake name. But she is great. She cares.

[@BrittneyWitherspoon]

youre VERY lucky!

[@ShamonRocky]

She does sound wonderful and spot on. If only she were the rule and not the exception. The culture of abuse from doctors/med personnel screaming at patients unprovoked to undermining every attempt a person males to advance is allowed and even encouraged behind the scene. All depends on what the office staffs etc.. opinion is of some person. I have worked in ECU. ER, ICU etc .. and have seen it to the point nothing surprises me anymore. Where in the hippocratic oath does it teach its OK to abuse pts if you think you don't like them. !?! Is there some Therapeutic value to it that I am unaware of? That's what I used to think.. Not anymore!! Thank You for your efforts on this. You are truly a ray of light, fresh air and a hope for the future. Pray a wall of angels around you and yours to protect now and forever!!

[@amandajohns46774]

I never knew you did this! You are such an inspiration and I’m proud to have you as my doctor! Your voice is so important in ending the stigma surrounding addiction!

[@jacksparrow3235]

Dr Greer is a great doctor , she is a true leader in MAT programs in Fort Wayne

[@laurac1842]

A minute and a half in and I'm in tears. I am an addict in recovery and so this hits home. Although I am stable on a methadone prescription I am struggling to see how I will ever be completely free. I also have depression anxiety and PTSD and a lot of my using was because of Trauma. Thank you for this talk 🙏

[@ahsokaventriss3268]

Hey Laura, if I subbed my name in, your comment would be mine. We can chat sometime if you want. I just celebrated 4 years off of dope; methadone (and a really good therapist) saved my life. 😘

[@tatertot4208]

I'm so very sorry that comment was so so long but I hope you can take a little time out of your day to read it I would greatly appreciate it if you could :-)

[@charlesrubin2657]

Hey Laura I hope you're doing ok now. My best guess for how to be free would be to try and get into the 12 steps. It's known for freeing people. There's some good videos on KZbin from Aa speakers. If you listen to them you'll probably understand exactly where they're coming from. Us alcoholics need a spiritual experience and a complete physic change which occurs from getting into the steps. You can also read/listen to the first 164 pages of the big book of alcoholics anonymous. Good luck and bless your heart.

[@lynettemorgan3449]

I'm on a methadone program too, stop beating yourself up your doing amazing by taking harm reduction steps. I don't plan on ever coming off methadone, forget the stigma and what others think, if you where a diabetic you wouldn't stop taking insulin and I think you should treat your illness the same.

[@crissycattuzzo1460]

I feel the same but I’m on Subutex.

[@kcstorytime4898]

Dr. Greer, you are such a beautiful women. I am crying listening to your message as I do suffer with substance use after being a victim of DV and I long for compassion and community to help exit this but as I am functional in many aspects and a Christian when I do look for help it falls on judgmental ears that also have no solutions absent thousands of dollars which I don't have for treatment as I am without health insurance or the financial resources to spend $35,000 dollars for treatment. Thank you for showing love and compassion for people. I hope others model your behavior in the future and public health care will open up to helping instead of judging.

[@dondressel452]

It is shown that a lot of these addiction centers do not work Addicts need more time to get rid of their addictions Not all but but addiction centers are in it for the money You can’t get over addiction in a week or two You need more time than that to recover from addiction

[@Tdubbz44]

@@dondressel452 You're 100% correct. There needs to be more 30-60 day programs. There's no excuse for the lack of "REAL COMPASSIONATE" help out there.

[@jamielassen9896]

Hang in there it's rough and compassion and understanding are hard to come by, but keep your head up.

[@kcstorytime4898]

thank you @@jamielassen9896

[@applejax1017]

I cannot explain how much this talk means to me. Thank you, Dr. Greer. Hearing talks like this give me hope for the future, and that maybe it really is possible to get past the stigma surrounding addiction in the United States.

[@BrittneyWitherspoon]

thank u so much for talking about this! my ex boyfirnd used and was afraid to tell the doctor he did but was having health issues because he didnt want his kids taken...plus he didnt want to be looked at as a bad person, Its sad that once you mention drug addiction everyone views you as a bad person even though they have no idea what LED you to use....another problem is not having good insurance(ppo) they just dont have the knowlege or dont care....anyways i wish EVERYONE had the knowledge you have so that ppl with substance abuse and mental health issues could get better...Thank you!

[@dem3817]

in 2010, i had my daughter, I was 20 almost 21, and I begged and cried to my OBGYN that i was addicted and didn't know what to do. she told me, "I'm not qualified to handle this situation." and literally hung up the phone on me. I went back for my appt. a week later, she never said a word about it, moving forward. not till I went into labor, and I told them at the hospital then they accused me of smoking weed in my delivery room and took my daughter away and kicked me out. I was never treated with anything other than you're a horrible person, you don't deserve children, etc. I was told I couldn't have children; I was still on birth control because my periods were extremely painful, and i still got pregnant, I didn't find out till was almost 5 months pregnant. Not much I could do, I looked for help and was shut down. Now I work to help mothers, so they don't have to endure what I endured.

[@KW-mz4pn]

Thank you Dr. We have a lot of work to do especially in the profession of nursing! They are the worst offenders and policy must be changed.

[@Jenny-uv4dl]

As a nurse I have seen the worst TX handed out to legit pain patients an example a adolescent who had a spinal fusion was ordered take home pain rx he was in our psych. Facility long term for family issues and explosive behavior and bipolar tht cycled very fast and was sometimes not rx complaint my supervisor told me not to give him legit rx a wk after surgery his first day discharged to us his pain rx because Afro-American became addicted faster and easier to pain rx the physician had already discussed in discharge paperwork a process of rx step dwn but a WEEK AFTER A TOTAL SPINAL FUSION the child had scoliosis and spine was in a S shape state of New York went to court to a emergency hearing to temporary suspension of parental rights because mother believed if she just prayed kid would be healed surgeon cleared his calendar for kid

[@elijahdunmore7526]

THANKS FOR SHARING THIS VIDEO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY JOURNEY ON SOBRIETY I HAVE BEEN SOBER FOR 2 YEARS AND 11 MONTHS AS OF FEBRUARY 6-2023 I HOPE WITH MY SOBRIETY STORY WILL HELP AT LEAST ONE PERSON AND ON AND ON AND ON YOU CAN STAY SOBER LIVE A SOBER AND HAPPY HAPPY 2023 YOU WANT REGRET IT❤❤❤

[@davidwalesby2426]

I lost both my younger and older brother to drugs and almost myself as well, I managed to go on methadone and clean myself up with the good support of my fiance and her family who is now my family as well i am 5 years clean and pretty close to weaning right off of methadone, your video moved me. thank you for that.

[@britanymedina6064]

Bless you and your family for giving you support.

[@davidwalesby2426]

@@britanymedina6064 ty

[@lilianaandthebestandthebri8154]

Wow. I'm struggling with what to say. I'm in tears. Thank you Dr.

[@Crystal9100]

Dr Greer, thanks for giving me courage to get my son into mandated detox so he can get treatment. 8 years and 90 detox. he has aleays needed anti anxiety ptsd and psychiatric help. now I have better language. He has a warrent on not showing to drug offense. I did not want him arrested YET on my couch with addict girlfriend fresh out of rehab AINT working. Youre a gem. nameste

[@kayceebrown5468]

Thank you ma'am. Thank you Thank you for all your dedication, consideration and time in all the hard work you do. Your compassion and devotion will renew hope for so many including myself. May God bless you and may God's healing grace embrace all of us battling this demon who's day to day life is a constant struggle.

[@blayneelizabeth2098]

I’m so grateful for this Ted talk

[@benz.2713]

You are doing great things.

[@tanial3183]

I'm an LCDC-I and this is for me, one of the most inspiring talks I've ever heard.

[@philmccrevis5364]

What is LCDC?

[@BreannaBell]

@@philmccrevis5364 Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor

[@philmccrevis5364]

@@BreannaBell 6 months later lol. Hope you have a great day!

[@BreannaBell]

@@philmccrevis5364 hahaha I was like NO ONE EVER ANSWERED!!! ☺️ You have a great day too, friend.

[@Mark-pp7jy]

22 year chronic alcoholic. 27 years of continuous sobriety. My mantra is, "Live in the problem, or live in the solution". Recovery is a simple as that!

[@TarotTarot1]

It’s far from simple

[@Mark-pp7jy]

@@TarotTarot1 The solution is simple. The hard part is committing to the solution. We're either in recovery, or practicing "half measures". I sincerely wish you all the best!

[@TarotTarot1]

Mark, agree to that

[@mariahjane7969]

She's talking about my life my experiences. But I never got my kids back because I couldn't get clean within the two yr time allotment of foster care. I've been clean for 3 yrs and there MAT program im in saved my life.

[@Edrokski777]

Yhea because 2 years surely is enough...😏I didn't become in addict overnight I'm not gonna get and stay clean over night. Years upon years have gone into the making of my addiction

[@vanessasworder]

Beautiful soul ….speaking the truth ….

[@backyardbeautybrainsbirdsb4109]

Thankyou. I love stories from peers that care for those suffering from suds.

[@alexandertsiumis547]

Great talk, cheers

[@rufousdederp]

This is so powerful! I was shown this in a training and had to watch it again 👍

[@beachdreamer5034]

Thank you Dr Greer. Powerful message that needs to be heard

[@benmuffie665]

This needs millions of views esp those with preconceived notions and a stigma towards addicts and addiction

[@lightingthedarkremoteviewi8086]

Drug use is a chosen action used to self medicate. Mental illness is no excuse at all. You can't compare illnesses to addiction. And many chronic health issues get no care or help at all. In fact there way more help for addicts than people with chronic illnesses. There are drug treatment centers and AA and halfway houses all over. I have been looking for help for 12 years with chronic illness and gotten none at all from any organization. I have been through more trauma than anyone I know and still never did drugs, it's a choice and you must take responsibly for your choices!!!

[@tristinhall9625]

her voice aggravates me so much.

[@charlesrubin2657]

Me too haha

[@charlesrubin2657]

No offense though I'm trying to be nice not mean. But sound is in the ears of the beholder. - ghandy

[@D.J.Ghost.]

She's a vindictive and petty compulsive liar. Won't think twice about retaliating against you if her fragile ego is questioned by a competent physician.

[@britanymedina6064]

Dang you can be the brightest, most empathetic speaker with a calm and relaxed voice talking about stigma and wanting to stop it and still get people annoyed and aggravated lol in the future. If you’re annoyed by it, I think if you speed it up a little, you might not have such a hard time.

[@veryconfused9768]

this talk is soothing. addict in recovery here

[@kristenroma7833]

I love everything you've said! I attempted to get clean, even went to a rehab that was MAT friendly, but I was against MAzt due to the stigma. I heard alot about it when there and my views changed. I was only 20 it was my 1st time in rehab so they wouldn't put me on methadone due to that. However I relapsed in treatment every 30 days for 3 months until I finally accepted naltrexone tablets for 3 months and ended up relapsing twice... so clearly I needed something more while in an inpatient relapsing any chance I could. Eventually I ended up overdosing and got kicked out because it was too triggering. I was on a marchman act that kept getting extended due to relapsing...iwas very close to maxing it out but since I got kicked out it started all over.... I went to jail & finally the Dr there offered me methadone & omg I'm going on 4 years no illicit drug screens. I wish the stigma for MAT wasn't there. It makes no sense to keep trying abstinence when it doesn't work. I truly believe id be dead without it if I kept trying that way. Its insanity. I have lost many friends since. I am now able to see how delusional I was and I read my journal from treatment and I just can't believe I couldn't see how ridiculous I sounded. I wrote a letter to my insurance saying the rehab is committing fraud and not correctly dx me that I don't need that level of care even tho I just relapsed 21 days ago for the 5th time since getting here 6 months ago lol 😆 it was a 90 day program with a transitional part for 60 days more if u wanted. Anyways thank u and I hope more ppl start to realize mat is the best option in most cases as it keeps us alive to realize what we want and now I'm a mother & my life is better than I ever imagined!

[@mikeblackwell3445]

Kristen Roma hi I’m an addict as well, I loved your post! I’ve been trying to figure out what is going to work well for me too. I was just wondering, how long were you on methadone total from start to finish?

[@linneajohnson5362]

Thanks for sharing. Such valuable insight. Inspiring as well♥️

[@volta2aire]

Thank you.

[@ryansutter4291]

As an addict, for 20 years, I have been on and off and on and off and on and off in my struggles with substances. In and out of relapse and using and relapse and using and relapse and using. And going through that cycle over, and over, and over all of these years, I've noticed this element of shame that underlies a lot of it. Even the 'best' place people are told to turn to, narcotics/alcoholics anonymous....the very fact that it has to be anonymous, it's a part of stigmatizing that shame that comes with addiction. Like your telling people yeah we notice it's a problem, here's a place to get help, BUT do it quietly. Anonymously. In shame. And it shouldn't be like that. And a lot of mental health issues are like that, there is no patience for it or towards it. And when people need help, it should be encouraged for them to do that and step up to that process. It takes a lot of courage to recover. And I think a lot more people would make it if they didn't feel lesser or feel so much shame for having experienced what they have. Nobody wants to be an addict. And compassion and connection helps more than anything. And aside from the physical part of the substance abuse the mental and psychological and social parts are all just as big a part of it. So it isnt as straight up as one problem one fix. It's a million problems that cause the ONE problem so there has to be those MILLION fixes and even then that almost always has to be slowly apporoched and one day and one step at a time. Patience. Empathy. But back to the shame, I think if people could just be encouraged to be open and not feel stigmatized or punished for what they have done or even been through. Not blamed, but made to see that it was okay, it's okay that that happened. That would go a long, long way. You have to be responsible for your own recovery, yes, but you can't punish yourself about it forever, and the people that are in your life or just people in general shouldnt judge that effort or struggle at the very least. It is a real disease, it is a myriad of sickness. Physically. Mentally. Socially. And it is a hard, hard road for a person and their families to experience.

[@areyouseriousholmes]

They make you call yourself an addict in the NA, AA, programs. And i never liked calling myself that

[@Mark-pp7jy]

You are sadly misinformed. " The ONLY requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking"! (AA) You absolutely DO NOT have to call yourself an alcoholic, or addict. I've been attending AA meetings for more than 27 years, and will be the first to correct someone who says otherwise! It is written in the AA preamble, so there is no discussion! All the best to you...Mark

[@shiftbutton9273]

As with many other addictions, substance abuse addiction can be a life and career threatening experience that requires a lot of conscious effort to overcome, which is what has been shown here. I also recommend having a workbook like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Worksheets for Substance Abuse by Portia Cruise can be a very handy companion to track your progress, stay motivated, and avoid relapse.

[@michah321]

What about the people who will take the prescription as prescribed, for the pain that it's given for and then be done? That's most people prescribed pain medication.

[@galegrazutis964]

Thankyou l have had many very painful surgeries on my ears. And have been on a large cocktail of meds for my mental health. Never overused or became addicted l truly think we make too many excuses fir addicts. Even when they steal to fund their habbit or break into people's homes to steal. EXCUSES are constantly made for them!!!

[@privateprivate1865]

The fact that this isn't blown up is a very scary. this message should be everywhere.it's so crazy to know that humanity mostly fights over things they don't understand.

[@Kyriecat12]

I love this!

[@dillond4709]

See, idk, I always look at the consequences and think abt the negative impact.. I just can talk myself out of it when I'm active.. maybe bc ive had a few stints of sobriety including 5 yrs... but I am not blind to the idiocracy of myself, I just can't pull put of it... and as the saying goes too smart for our own good sometimes.. def true

[@Horey_Caim_lives]

I live in Australia and theres so much stigma associated with addiction here aswell. Ive struggled with addiction for most of my life. Ive realised after talking to psychologists and remembering my childhood that it was the trauma in my childhood that has me using at the age of 49. I feel hopeless. Nobody in my family really knows what i use. Im just the uncle whos the addict. Ive been to rehab and detox. It didn't help. I still need help. But theres nowhere that can help. I cant suicide so where does one go when all the standard recovery placed don't work?

[@longlivetheintifada]

This was so helpful. Thank you so much.

[@clintoncampbell-smith1228]

Thank you!

[@iseewhatyoudidthere1245]

I've heard it said " Addicts are not bad people trying to be good, they are sick people trying to be healthy."

[@charlesrubin2657]

True

[@clintoncampbell-smith1228]

Huge respect!

[@immanentPassages]

Rational Recovery is an approach to addiction that is completely different from AA. AVRT can result in complete and immediate recovery. I read RR books on my page. Check out Virginia's story and learn how to do AVRT.

[@dawnconner9209]

Bravo

[@ajcat761]

Every person needs this I take opiates for pain but 2 years ago I was discharged for a positive drug screen at that time I had just experienced one of the most painful times in my life there were no questions there were no chances to explain just cut so now due to the trauma I already experienced I was placed in a situation were I knew that nothing was going to remove the physical pain even after mo the of detox I would suffer so I was forced to the street still there at times of severe pain because no dr will help me at all I wasn't abusive I made a mistake because I was traumatized and now often think why me why am I allowing myself to live in severe pain like this I should just end it but I have a child who I love very much and that's just unfair to him but honestly know in my heart that my life would be better if they would just listen to me and I could continue with the treatment I was receiving but the stigma prevents me from getting help I am terrified to evertrust a dr again.

[@urbanwarchief]

I find mint tea and soup very therapeutic. If people were offered a family with support I imagine they would want to build again. Just need to re educate people on how to rebuild their structure to create their dreams

[@salvia1264]

I am a psychedelic integration guide & an entheogenic herbalist with over 9000 years of experience. This medicine is a birthright & learning about how to use it is an even bigger birthright.

[@dem3817]

It's funny that the brain doesn't fully develop until we are 25. as a person in long-term recovery, and a person who works in the field of addiction, and mental health- and works to reduce the STIGMA, and increase prevention, and community resources I often find that individuals don't usually succeed in recovery until at least 25, not saying there aren't cases where that has happened. because there has. but even just in my case, I didn't stop using until I reached 24, even after having children born exposed, and having my daughter taken away, it didn't fully grasp until I was almost 25. I am now 34 and have 9 years in recovery! But I also had to relearn everything from age 13 - 25 (my using years).

[@hannahburke4454]

Is there anywhere I can see her sources for the statistics she is reporting here? Just curious for the data on the 90% of people who don't use medical interventions for substance use disorders relapse? Thank you

[@Edrokski777]

I have permanent endocarditis which means I am going to die from it. They replaced a valve in my heart but failed to find the staff in my back so when it ended up in my heart again 3 months after release from the the hospital. There was no question I was using...🤨 So they replaced 5 disks in my back and said there's nothing else they can do for me..... So basically your an addict and your not worth it is all I heard. Being used to putting my self down and everyone that didn't use around me making me feel inadequate. Might as well jump back in the ring huh..... She's absolutely right there is a horrible stigma around substance use disorder.... And I have felt it first hand when I was in the hospital recovering from my surgery as a "Patient" My room was tossed and I was drug tested randomly glared at my visitors were harassed and questioned based on there appearance that maybe they were bringing me drugs never failed a urine screen either by the way failed.... There's another bad term might as well say failure... But I was reintroduced to narcotics on a different surgery before all this with a year clean.... And I asked my Dr honestly can you step my narcotics down instead of just taken them away I explained that I was afraid to come off the medicine cold turkey and was afraid that I would self medicate. I was immediately told no and treated differently and the inevitable happened.. if taken methadone while being viewed by a nurse keeps a needle out of my arm then I think that is a huge benefit weather people in "recovery" think I'm not ready for recovery or think less of me In a place that is supposed to be open to helping and guiding new people... I don't think turning someone away is a good way to approach medicated assistance recovery anyways Thank you Dr Greer you never gave up on me and u never will.....

[@Horey_Caim_lives]

I hope you're doing better today. I believe in you mate 💪

[@ChrisMasonRock]

Transition homes vs halfway house. Thoughts?

[@OvenAssociation]

In my 3 years of highschool, I have yet to be assigned a TedTalk with a man as the speaker.

[@bretthargis6802]

Implemented and treatment programs are to ensure that nobody is there to obtain and redistribute the meds used in treatment. I'm a patient and it is the entrepreneur/ drug dealer's presents that makes these contracts necessary it is unfortunate but the department of Justice could help with the situation.

[@alvaroJalas]

Cuando decidí quedarme a residir en California, USA, nunca lo hice con la idea de tirar mi vida a la basura, todo lo contrario, las expectativas eran altas, claro que nunca consideré que los problemas de adicción que traía encima se iban a exponenciar hasta casi llevarme a la muerte. Afortunadamente cuando al fin me arrestaron, después de cinco años de vivir en la USA y pasar los últimos tres en un consumo masivo de meta, decidí no consumir nada, me incorporé al trabajo en la cocina, inicié una rutina de ejercicios y principalmente me uní a un grupo de evangélicos. Después de seis meses y cuatro cárceles diferentes, terminé en la de Migración en San Pedro, para finalmente ser deportado a mi país. Haciendo un recuento hasta ese momento habían sido 40 años de adicción, entre cigarrillos, alcohol, marihuana, cocaína, pastas y finalmente cristal. Entonces dije ya fue suficiente, enunciado que apenas duró unos dos años, cuando estaba otra vez metido hasta el tope, esta vez en Crack. Me auto ingresé en un centro de rehabilitación por tres años, uno afuera del centro y ya estaba de nuevo en la misma situación, solo que esta vez con la gran frustración de haber fallado a todo mundo y lo peor de todo a Dios. Ahora a mis 66 años estoy casado con una ex-drogadicta, quien ya se graduó en Leyes, estoy terminando mi tercer año de Universidad y nos hemos dedicado a criar nietos, estoy realmente agradecido con la vida y el favor de Dios que he recibido, muy a pesar de todo el tiempo perdido, y muy feliz de encontrar material como este video, que no sólo ayuda a liberar la carga del sentimiento de culpabilidad, sino además proporciona las armas para ayudar a otros. Gracias.

[@SereneVoice1]

Dr. Gabor Mate asserts that auction is not about genetics, but rather about generational trauma.

[@jackstem475]

It's a combination of genetics, traumatic life experiences, and ingesting mood altering substances. No single cause but a combination.

[@triode8239]

This problem goes beyond shaming. A person living in California is committed to a hospital for an attempted suicide. The state documents this as a 5250. The state (by law) recognizes you now as a grave danger to others or yourself. The state then adjudicates you as "mentally defective" . There is no judge, no courtroom, no lawyers. The state then transmits this data to the FBI National Criminal Database NICS. Why is this important? If your name appears on the NICS database, you are not allowed to purchase firearms, you will fail background checks when seeking employment and you will be considered a criminal by law enforcement. It is next to impossible to have your name removed from the NICS database. Thanks to an ever growing intrusive state, this person will live with the negative impact of this systemic stigma. I ask the question, why should anyone trust the state or so called health care providers? The government is not your friend, in fact it is quite the opposite. The state (government) at all levels from cops on the street to judges in the courtrooms to law makers at the capitol, devote 100% of their efforts in circumventing the Constitution to nullify your rights and we pay them to do it. Question everything.

[@tarawasinger]

💯👏🏻

[@dondressel452]

My issues with addiction and addicts is that people with chronic pain conditions have a problem getting their pain medication because of addicts abusing these pain medications

[@taratrujillo1911]

Blame the government, not addicts, the research shows that big pharma set it up like that trust me..

[@lightingthedarkremoteviewi8086]

Drug use is a chosen action used to self medicate. Mental illness is no excuse at all. You can't compare illnesses to addiction. And many chronic health issues get no care or help at all. In fact there way more help for addicts than people with chronic illnesses. There are drug treatment centers and AA and halfway houses all over. I have been looking for help for 12 years with chronic illness and gotten none at all from any organization.

[@Mark-pp7jy]

What is your chronic illness?

[@StjepanP-oy1vq]

Most illness comes from people “choosing “ to eat unhealthy foods. Have you also made that choice?

[@privateprivate1865]

I jumped I had myself this video is very lacking first hand experience

[@cancerisalie6171]

oh oh I know MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

[@david18ireland]

"Regular life is too rough"? Lmao

[@finishlinecaulktools6217]

Just a Drug Pusher with a white coat and a fancy title.

[@1969hhicks]

Thank you.