Shamsi Dismantles False Claims! Shamsi And Visitor Speakers Corner

[@hamzamime]

I love you for the sake of Allah Shamsi thank you for clarifying and exposing these individuals

[@a.majidkhan9674]

Barak Allaah u Fikum... Love This "Lion From Algeria" For The Sake Of Allaah...May Allaah Bless Our Brother Shamsi And His Family And All Of Us Muslims And Unite Us Upon The Way Of The Salaf As Sauleh...

[@-.K.-]

ameen!

[@abdulazeezalade9939]

Aamiin. May Allah continue to strengthen him. Let's us read about Islamic history from a correct source and learn widely about the attacks and misconceptions about Islam so as to been well equipped any shocker surfaces . Very important. A strong Muslim is better in the sight of Allah than a weak Muslim but both of them are good.

[@Forgotman]

Cleared a lot of misconceptions for me Alhamdulilah

[@TheSlaveOfAllah1992]

A group of Muslims came to al-Hasan al-Basri seeking a verdict to rebel against al-Hajjaj, he was a tyrannical and despotic general. So they said, *O Abu Said. What do you say about fighting this oppressor who has unlawfully spilt blood and unlawfully taken wealth and has done this and done that* ? So al-Hasan said, I hold that he should not be fought. *If this is a punishment from Allah, then you will not be able to remove it with your swords. If this is a trial from Allah, then be patient until Allah's judgement comes, and He is the best of judges* ... So they left al-Hasan, disagreed with him and rebelled against al-Hajjaj, so al-Hajjaj killed them all. Al-Hasan used to say, *if the people had patience when they are being tested by their unjust ruler, it will not be long before Allah will give them a way out. However, they always rush for their swords, so they are left with their swords. By Allah. Not even for a single day did they bring about any good* .... Sheikh Islam Ibn Tamiyyah, rahimahullah, said, *And whoever reflects upon the authentic narrations that are established from the Prophet concerning this topic, and also considers with the consideration of those with insight and deep knowledge, will know that that which the Prophetic texts have come with is from the best of all affairs* .... We have to seek knowledge.!

[@a.majidkhan9674]

Barak Allaah u Fik Akhi

[@habilalsalfadori]

Can you provide the source akhi? جزاك اللهُ خيرًا

[@TheSlaveOfAllah1992]

@@habilalsalfadori Tabaqat Al-Kubra (7/163-165) ..wa fiika, akhil kareem. The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him said, Whoever sees from his leader something that he dislikes, then let him be patient with him because whosoever separates from the jamā’ah (i.e. the body of Muslims in a country) even by a handspan, and then dies in that condition, he will die the death of pre-Islamic ignorance (jāhiliyyah). And other ahadiths. Ahmad ibn Hanbal, rahimahullah, in Usul sunnah, said, It is not permissible for anyone among the people to fight the ruler and nor to rise up against him. And whosoever does that is an innovator, upon other than the Sunnah and upon other than the Straight Path. The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon, said. You are obligated to listen to the ruler and obey him in times of ease and in times of hardship, whether you are pleased or displeased and even when another person is given preference over you (while you were more deserving). The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, Listen to the ruler and obey him when it is hard for you and when it is easy for you, whether you are pleased or displeased, and when others are given preference over you, *and even when they consume your wealth and beat your back* ..

[@user-xe1lx1pg9q]

Okay so what about Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A he challenged a ruler cum oppressor of his times ? N all prophets pbuh tradition is Same they challenged the oppressors take Musa AS take Ibrahim AS. This is so wrong to teach just compliance to Muslims n be lame sheeps or sitting ducks ! We have examples from Prophets n what example u have quoted ?

[@TheSlaveOfAllah1992]

@@user-xe1lx1pg9q The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, told us to obey the ruler even if he is a Dhalim, and to not speak OPENLY about the Muslim Leader. If you say that is *lame* as you stated, that is kufr, which takes someone out of the fold of Islam, but if you say, no, i did not mean that, that makes you a mubtadi'. Whatever, Abul Qasim, blessings and salutations upon him, says, we say, *We hear and Obey* ... But, we believe, you are coming from ignorance, with the help of Allah, we will explain this once and for all. *Proof in Islamic Law is the saying of Allah, His Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, and the agreement by consensus* ... It is true that some among the early Salaf rose up against the tyranny of some of the rulers. However, this was before the agreement by consensus was established. In the beginning, when the fitnah began, there was some misunderstanding among a small number of the virtuous Sahabah and some of the Tabeen, may Allah be pleased with them all. However, a large number from the Sahabah and the Imams of the Taeen returned to the sayings of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, for guidance. *And it was this guidance that won the day in the end, and from it, a consensus was achieved* ....

[@umfatima2810]

MashaaAllah ❤ well explained

[@equityjustice2695]

😩😕 so much ego at the park. Shame

[@logicunbiased]

that guy that keeps interrupting is beyond annoying

[@user-tm7ed7bg7j]

شمسي اسد السنة.حفضك الله يا اخيييييينا

[@shabanali8591]

guy with the sunglasses no manners in asking & no Sabr in Listening

[@hamzamime]

no knowledge either

[@MussoliniLondon]

He was scared to answer the questions "Are there any Muslim countries?" and "Are there any Muslim rulers?" Because it would expose his Manhaj 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@IslamTheRightWay10]

exactly.

[@salttea8926]

There are alot of Muslim rulers ruling Muslim people's and alot of Muslim countries where majority of Muslims live but with no Sharia Laws....

[@T-19-]

That question got him lol

[@elafzal5866]

​@@98dfgWhat do you mean?

[@kdasfh]

Takfiri for sure

[@user-xe1lx1pg9q]

Shamsi answer me bro the conditions u stated is that people in power have to rebel , what if they don’t and what if the leader is traitor and colluding with kuffar clearly what then ?

[@mumtazshamsee5029]

Half of Shamsi's videos are in Arabic. No one else has this problem.

[@Turko19071]

Ottomans did conquer Morocco in year 1576. They appointed pro ottoman ruler. Morocco was a Vassel during the leader abdalmalik and Ahmad Al Mansur until 1603 Br shamsi keep up the great work 👍

[@yooscripts5947]

لااتفق مع شمسي في هاذا، رسول الله قال من رائ منكم منكر فل يغيره، من قال ان الامر ابيض او اسود، إما السكوت او نشر الفوضى

[@maxk8396]

So basically don’t say anything about the rulers 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@abdullahalqwain3490]

This is the word of the Messenger of God. Follow it, the Muslim will succeed. He submits to God alone, and follows the Qur’an, the Sunnah, and the righteous predecessors (Slaf)

[@zahidakhatoon5118]

Just research what our for fathers say about rebellion

[@sabaoen1289]

you just strawman his entire arguement. basic rebellion has so place in islam especially when it brings more disunification and death of the people. But there are conditions, and we are at best allowed to teach the people and, and privately address these issues to the leaders face to face, if they are not willing to listen or better there ways the most we can do according to the prophet and his actions is to remain patient or leave, like he did when he first received revelation.

[@sabaoen1289]

look at syria right now. its leader, al assad is an aliwite and upon misguidance and kufr by his action. a group of his population got up and as you said "said something about al assad" rose up and took up arms (free syrian army), which has therefore led to the entire countries demise and destruction. why do you not praise it?

[@bill5931]

Ottomans are returning soon brothers, Prepare for that inşAllah.

[@salttea8926]

They will come to diminish Shirk and sinfulness what we see in today's turkey InshaAllah... And I assume their teaching wasn't what we see in today's Turkey...

[@bill5931]

@@salttea8926 what Shirk akhi? Lol

[@bill5931]

@@salttea8926 I know what Shirk is. Türkiye in it’s current state isn’t an Islamic country, but is on its slow progress road to it with the President slowly pushing on it and pushing out the “Atatürk” (disgrace to the name) teachings. It is also hinted & mentioned in few public speeches that the plan is for the Osmanlı family to be on top of our heads again, but they received lots of backlash by the brainwashed secular Turks that’s been derived by generations of Kemalist Ideology being on top which is now rapidly ending, so much to it. Even indirectly insulting Mustafa Kemal. A Imam at Hagia Sofia (when it first opened) calling the one that turned the Mosque into a Museum (literally Mustafa Kemal A) Zalim & Kafir with Erdoğan there and not saying anything, once again receiving backlash for this. So it’s a slow process, but something which we believe will happen, and then inşAllah the Mehdi AS.

[@bill5931]

@@salttea8926 And I mean “what Shirk” as in, You must be saying there is Shirk, what Shirk are you speaking of?

[@jojoahmd123]

They aren’t you still worshiping graves and dancing in mosques…Allah will never give you victory 💁‍♀️😉

[@user-tj5nq9lb8n]

Shamsi dealt with this arrogant brother well. Unfortunately the brother came to Shamsi with bad energy and he was quite arrogant, always grinning scornfully and accusing Shamsi of avoiding the question when Shamsi was breaking down the answer to him. Muslims should show good manners when they are talking to non-believers, so no doubt they should show even more manners when they are talking to fellow muslims. The brothers approach towards Shamsi was quite disrespectful, but at least in the end he became more respectful,may Allah guide him and all of us. But I do not necessarily agree with Shamsi's criticism of the Sheikhs when they send their children to the West. What is the issue with sending some of your children to the West to study? Most people in the muslim world do this if they have the money, so why can't the Sheikhs send their children there as well? In the end,we should thank Shamsi for the effort he puts into the Dawah.

[@jojoahmd123]

Let’s not act stupid you know exactly what he meant ……. the same so called shakes (( I call them snakes )) telling the other people kids to go and die while they send their kids to Europe to study (( that’s the pure hypocrisy we are dealing with these days )) if what they call for is good and will put us in paradise why these so called religious people not be the first to act …why they are just talking will staying in America and Europe?!?!!!🤔🤔🤔use your brain we have it for a reason

[@user-xe1lx1pg9q]

He’s speaking too much Arabic n too much interruption , unable to get his point

[@Sami-bs1go]

شمسي مدخلي بامتياز ، الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام لم يأمرنا ان نكون كالأنعام نُقاد الى الذبح ولا نُحرك ساكنا.

[@momomouh115]

لم أسمعه يقول قال الشيخ ربيع ...بل لا يقول إلا قال الله قال الرسول ...ولا حول لا قوة إلا بالله هداني الله وإياك

[@jojoahmd123]

كل اللي قاله ادله من الكتاب والسنه فقط وانت ترفضها ولا تؤمن بها لانها مش على هواك بااختصار

[@mr.sagacious8431]

الرسول امرنا بالصبر علي ظلم الحكام المسلمين ، لو ما اعجبك فمشكلتك مع أمر الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم نسأل الله الهداية

[@Sami-bs1go]

@@momomouh115 فكر ربيع المدخلي من تبديع الناس واحداث الفتنة بين الناس والتطبيل للحكام العرب المجرمين حتى انه لا يطبع هده المعايير على كل الحكام وإلا ماقوله في من انقلب على الرئيس المصري السابق مرسي وعندما تساله عن حكام غزة يتبرأ منهم مع انهم حكام …فكر مدخلي عفن …مايحدثه شمسي في بريطانيا من تشتيت وخصومات بين المسلمين لا تعلم به انت

[@Sami-bs1go]

@@jojoahmd123 اي ادلة يارجل تأتي باحاديث تتكلم عن الحاكم المسلم وليس الحاكم الكافر

[@salttea8926]

I don't understand what he was talking about prostating before anyone out of respect isn't a shirk, then you are giving that respect to that man irrespective of Allah... If someone is forcing you then i can understand it isn't....

[@wolf-qe5ol]

He said it is an act of kufur but it doesnt make you a kafir if you didn't know it was haram or didn't do it out of worship. Remember every action is based on it's intention.

[@wolf-qe5ol]

You will see a lot this kind of stuff in our countries but the people don;t know better so we cant call them kuffar

[@salttea8926]

@@wolf-qe5ol ok..... I can imagine they didn't know it is Shirk in the far backward tribes of Africa, but not the people's of Saudi, Turkey, Morocco, Egypt, Pakistan and other Muslim majority countries... As we live in modern era where a Muslim whom didn't know the basics and most important part of Islam and didn't know this is wrong then it is void statement... And thanks for clarifying me...

[@jojoahmd123]

@@salttea8926 So we the people of Saudi Arabia are kafers or doing kuffr according to you 🤔🤔🤔🤔 wow do you do takfer on sins now ?! Or what’s going on here?!

[@wolf-qe5ol]

@@salttea8926 You would be suprised at the things that people do. But shamsi never said the people of these countries don't know all he said was "if" they didn't know so it conditional upon them not knowing, doesn't matter where and when as long as they are ignorant

[@louisdefuns5982]

If the ruler is serving the gays and working for kuffar. Should you listen to the ruler? Or should you destroy the infrastructure as the terrorists did in Syria.

[@saidibo4294]

Did you listen to the video?

[@jojoahmd123]

Why don’t you do that in the western world?! Why you want to destroy Muslim countries 🤔

[@shobre5976]

@@saidibo4294he obviously didn’t 🤦🏽

[@salttea8926]

It was western countries who destroyed Syria but those rebels were there to destroy Assad's regime, but he with the help of West and Turkey they destroyed Syria...

[@rpaul23455]

Don't obey if the leader ask u to commit sins and there r condition before u rebel... I remember hearing Shamsi said that u must need a good leader for replacement before u rebel not just rebel for the sake of rebelling... The guy cut him off before he continue the condition.