Shane Douglas on Vince McMahon, WWE's "Yes Man" Culture & Filming First Dean Douglas Promos

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[@markula_4040]

Always remember. Vince McMahon did not create Stone Cold, The Rock or Triple H. He created The Ringmaster, Rocky Maivia and Hunter Hearst Helmsley. He had to be dragged into the Attitude Era based largely on what Shane is saying right here.

[@DoktorSick]

exactly !!!!!

[@inutero10]

Its vinces call to go through with something. He has the final say. He might not have come up with a particular idea but he was smart enough to green light it. Give the man his due.

[@chm9935]

I think steve austin told wwf he was shitcanning the ringmaster.

[@danielsalinas6683]

@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt I know right. Too bad hes not the "genius" we have in office right now lol

[@jeffjackson9679]

@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt Trump has had a ton of business ventures that succeeded, most new companies (around 80%) fail within the first year, so under your logic, a NFL team that doesn't win the super bowl every year is a failure. And if you think the current "geriatric puppet" in charge right now, who is a career politician (and not a good one if you look at what he has achieved in his 50 years in office) is superior, you calling that other guy a partisan dope is laughable and hypocritical.

[@terryosinga2155]

I could listen to Shane Douglas and Al Snow talk about the wrestling business for hours. Two of the brighter minds in the business.

[@adamaizenberg756]

Excellent Hayes impression 😂

[@josephrotenberry6837]

Austin & Michaels got away with bowing up on Vinnie Mac in the late 90's because Bischoff and WCW were kicking his ass and he was losing people left and right and he was in a spot where he couldn't afford to be vindictive and spiteful with them.

[@Am71919]

Shawn Michaels probably would have main evented a couple of times but because Hogan was the top dog in WCW plus Goldberg was on the horizon, it wouldn't have been long before Shawn Michaels found himself in feuds with the likes of VK Wall Street and the barbarian

[@pizzahighfive2612]

No wonder attitude era was the best.. Vince McMahon wasn't inputting like a egomaniac anymore cause he was desperate to win. So he literally let Russo and Farrera do what they wanted creatively, and literally changed WWE almost overnight and became a multi million company in 4 short years. Then after WWE buys out ecw and wcw, then here comes Vince McMahon AGAIN and using his company as a ego trip, ruining wrestling.

[@blueblur2273]

@@pizzahighfive2612 If Vince let Russo and Ferrera do whatever they want you would have gotten the sh*t product you got in WCW when they came over.

[@kuma1388]

If Vince’s success is measured by the quality of his wrestling promotion and not his bank account, then he was only successful when he strayed from his own ideas

[@THE_CDN]

Well said, sir!

[@shawngrace7758]

Vince stole everyone’s ideas far wccw camera people, took success on other promoters creations, all Vince had was deeper pockets, and old promoters were stuck in the times, and didn’t want listen, doesn’t it sound like Vince is doing same as the old promoters? It’s a reason wrestling sucks today, Vince can’t steal talent, and he’s became that old promoter

[@kwavyt.3181]

@@shawngrace7758 you on point with that one

[@kenterminateddq5311]

It kinda sounds like how Shane McMahon got released. You have to agree with every idea that Vince produced, awful or not. Even if the son disagrees with Vince's ideas or vice versa, then his job is on jeopardy. Paul Heyman had heated disagreements with Vince about December to Dismember 06.

[@user-el3gn5yl2w]

I wouldn´t believe a word that comes out of Heyman´s mouth lol

[@pizzahighfive2612]

I wouldn't trust any story coming from WWE. Kayfabe is alive and well, but the kayfabe is in the news stories and interviews, not in the wrestling show itself.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

@@KHLB516 unless your name is Shawn Michaels.

[@suffocatdevil]

The franchise would have been great in WWE. Just a shame shane was there a few years too early. Little did Vince know a few years later the WWF would be emulating the product that Shane was one of the catalysts for

[@Thor-Orion]

The Franchise was great in the WWF, Paul Levesque stole the gimmick whole sale and it took him to the moon.

[@kshinokevin]

@@Thor-Orion - Triple H had Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley; while Shane Douglas had Francine (the Queen of Extreme; the Head Cheerleader).

[@Thor-Orion]

@@kshinokevin tip of the iceberg, brother. He stole everything down to that kangol style hat in black leather.

[@russphilbrook9719]

Vince has a fragile ego always has and lives in his own universe. Which Is why he surrounds himself with yes men to affirm his position. Agree with Shane 100 percent

[@bustersales6921]

Where do you know mac Mahon from? You worked in NY?

[@russphilbrook9719]

@@bustersales6921 not directly but knew people who did and heard some stories

[@garethcullen9604]

Shane is one of the best interviews in wrestling, so engaging. WWF dropped the ball with him in the 90s.

[@jj204]

To be fair he sucked

[@1223steffen]

@@jj204 to be fair Vince sucks

[@KofCFrank06511]

Vince reminds me of "Little Anthony Fremont" (Bill Mumy) in the Twilight Zone Episode "It's A Good Life" where everyone is so afraid of this little kid with powers who wishes people into the cornfield.

[@pizzahighfive2612]

So my question is, what do you think Vince does to people that they're all so afraid of?

[@KofCFrank06511]

@@pizzahighfive2612 The power to fire those who disagree with him. I am sure he has his minnions who kiss the ground he walks on but like all other "Bosses", their underlings are so afraid to go against their "way of doing things"

[@bustersales6921]

@@pizzahighfive2612 wtf are you talking about..: have you never had a job..?

[@libertarian500]

Would love to hear Shane comment on Vince's ultra "yes man" Bruce Pritchard!!

[@1950Grendel]

I went to the University of Kentucky in the 1980's, and Joe B. Hall did the same with his players. He won a championship, as Vince has made money, but he also ruined players because the had to be played "the UK way", and players with great skills that didn't match Joe B.'s style had their skills suppressed. Just down the road in Louisville, Denny Crumb recruited players based on their strengths, watched them play, and said, "How do we make a winning team with these guys?" And Crumb won a national championship, too. The boss has to at least consider his employees' ideas if they're the ones who have to carry them out.

[@jacobbradford2543]

Can't stand Vince yes men. I respect Shane McMahon so much more now for standing up to Vince

[@markula_4040]

You clearly don't know what a Yes Man is. Shane was pitching his own ideas about getting himself over and they were TERRIBLE because he's a 50+ year old part timer wrestler (at best) who many fans don't buy as a top talent. If Vince was pitching bad ideas and Shane was saying no we should try it this way then your comment would make some sense but Shane was only really concerned with himself there and it showed.

[@jacobbradford2543]

@@markula_4040 LMAO you clearly don't know what a yes man is. Everything you said was BS and wrong. I have a feeling you are used to being wrong. So yet another failure you can add to your life

[@jacobbradford2543]

@@markula_4040 plus wasn't even trying to make himself look strong 🤡 he wanted to come in at 1 and get eliminated by Austin Theory to builds towards a match at Mania where he wanted to put Theory over. That was actually a great pitch especially with the Vince and Theory storyline but what does Vince do? He has to part timers win. 2 people that didn't need to win but did anyway.

[@Doctor-Stoppage]

I loved wrestling when I was a kid. And to this day I respect wrestlers athleticism and the art form of what they do. WWE wasn't always, but is now just a poison machine that breaks talent. The amount of horror stories that come out of that place is insane. I understand that they have bigger paydays but if you have any passion for the wrestling business, go anywhere but there.

[@pizzahighfive2612]

It's all modern wrestling, unfortunately. It's as if WWE literally poisoned the entire wrestling world. Cause AEW and most indie wrestling all feel like WWE jr's. No one is a true alternative, counter culture.

[@Doctor-Stoppage]

@@pizzahighfive2612 New Japan was really picking up North American steam with the Bullet Club and WWE was even able to infiltrate that and break it up. Omega was smart enough to go to AEW but other than AJ Styles WWE clowned the other members.

[@mattthomas1442]

I know people call Bruce Prichard a yes man but I was at a live show with Pat Patterson and Patterson would back up the claims that him, Bruce and others would tell Vince when something sucked but they also knew Vince well enough to know when you can or can't change his mind so in cases where he has his mind made up they don't even waste their breath which is what probably happened here. One story they both told is about how they felt in 94 that Shawn Michaels should be a babyface, Vince shot it down, they tried it multiple times after and Vince said "Damnit that little runt will never be a babyface in this company so don't bring it up again!!" so they dropped it. Then come WMXI and Shawn is getting cheered by the fans in his match with Diesel, the next day Vince picks up Pat and Bruce to go to TV and says "We got ourselves a babyface on our hands!" and they were like "huh?" and he's like "Shawn Michaels, he's our next top babyface, the fans want to cheer him, I just don't understand why I'm the only one to see this!" It's stuff like that which made people into "yes men" they realized when Vince has hid mind made up you can't get through to him.

[@rudyrusso711]

Always liked the Franchise...glad to see him again!

[@jimmyjohnson2126]

Shane is awesome!! I always loved his promos, matches and his "Pittsburgh Plunge" finisher!

[@calvinfolan1736]

Shane was a fantastic heel in ECW, he was a real slimeball and his laugh was so evil. The Franchise is the man.

[@filthiestfish]

Fisherman Suplex?

[@jimmyjohnson2126]

@@filthiestfish yes

[@tomhood7343]

I must be one of the few people that liked the Dean Douglas character. His promos were actually really good and the laugh was very Dibiase like.

[@_flyinlion_8995]

I loved Shane’s mic work 🔥

[@dougmphilly]

among the best of his time

[@j.c.ca.o.l7035]

I don't think it was because Vince had phases of listening, it was more how valuable you were to the company, which Shane alluded to towards the end.

[@blueblur2273]

Absolutely! He was willing to get rid of both Bret and Shawn once he realized he didn't need them anymore now that he had Stone Cold.

[@christhornycroft3686]

I can only imagine what it would have been like in WWF had The Franchise had a feud with Stone Cold in the 90s. Shane was great at getting heat, and Stone Cold was a new kind of babyface, so they could have worked well together. They were both excellent on the mic and in the ring and could have really been something special had they worked together during that period.

[@bryanmack4054]

If Shane was in the attitude era, HHH would be long forgotten

[@LINKMASTERX]

Shane Douglas is one of the more solid guys to come out of the industry

[@TheAYM91]

Vince McMahon has always treated the top talents of other companies terribly, even to this day. Look at how great Shane Douglas was at ECW and it's hard to understand why they couldn't make it work. Good to see AEW giving some competition to WWE now. They had it too easy for too long.

[@TheAYM91]

@@KHLB516 How would you know he couldn't generate such support if not supported? Stop supporting a shite company like WWE.

[@TheAYM91]

@Ze TheGame He did well in ECW even after short stints in WCW. Mcmahon only knows how to create bodybuilders that he can jerk off looking at.

[@KingJRZJ]

@@KHLB516 the reason ECW talent wasn't getting paid wasn't because they weren't or couldn't draw enough people. It's well documented Heyman was horrible with money and still owes a lot of people.

[@KingJRZJ]

Could you imagine if Vince would've let Shane be the Franchise in WWF? HHH would've never been in the spotlight lol.

[@johnkolko5199]

@@TheAYM91 LOL - Sad but true!

[@Mr.Majestic77]

Shane Douglas would an excellent trainer & writer for Impact Wrestling.

[@fredcasdensworld]

He's already did that

[@Mr.Majestic77]

@@fredcasdensworld he can always go back lol.

[@1223steffen]

Or wwe

[@Mr.Majestic77]

@@1223steffen nah. Shane is not a WWE guy lol.

[@Hakeem990]

He would improve AEW

[@leeortiz2687]

Shane is a legend

[@mikeh9923]

he seems a really smart and interesting guy

[@robertrios650]

The fans already know this that why there less people watching it

[@studbourbon798]

He listened to Shawn cause they were bangin.

[@billymiller6709]

Or shane wasn't as good like everyone claim he sucked in wwe and wcw why's that

[@david29497]

@@billymiller6709 the answer can be both. Vince and Shawn were pounding pooper and Shane wasn't as good as good as he thought he was .

[@billymiller6709]

@@david29497 like really Shawn michaels would've made it anywhere not just wwe

[@ozzymorrison8628]

Exactly. And not bending over for pat Patterson...Shane is no ass kisser

[@ozzymorrison8628]

@@billymiller6709 yeah triple H Stole his gimmick and look GTFO

[@ryanstewart4444]

As much as I like The Franchise, Shane Douglass is his own biggest mark.

[@brainhakker7133]

Shane SCREWED Shane

[@saburvd7874]

Vince is full of terrible ideas. WWE has had Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar on the top of the card for a decade now. If we would have had Hogan vs the Ultimate Warrior every year people would have gotten sick of it. The Diva's are the best thing in WWE. When Reigns & Lesnar come on the tv it's time to change the channel.

[@robertzavala3407]

They've had what 3 matches in their careers? Ya'll exaggerate so much. Brock has been inactive 3 of the last 6 years. Was he on top of the card from his living room? Roman is the most compelling wrestler in the sport right now. Like him or not you can't name a better guy

[@crazyjim9380]

I think though that there is a problem across the boards that was also true when TNA was in the position of being a challenger and is true of AEW in that they want to give everything out for free most nights and not build toward something. Hulk vs. Warrior was special, not only because we didn't see these guys wrestle each other but also that they were incredibly selective of when we saw either of those guys work for free against anybody that was not a job guy. Even if you look at the mid-90's, we never got Bret vs. Shawn as a World Championship match on a free RAW. They knew that was there one they are going to hold for the big payoff. I just saw that AEW gave the very first match between CM Punk and MJF, that they had been building up for some time, for free. What's left as a follow-up now? This has kind of been the problem with every company across the board.

[@theevn7]

Good video True

[@1978mackdaddy]

I loved the Dean Douglas character! Am I alone?

[@jcrobinson37]

HHH basically stole the franchise gimmick. The Franchise gimmick would have been great in the attitude era

[@jonjohnson1978.]

Always found vince creative genius tag to be overblown, his big stars he didn't create those he fell into them Hogan character was formed in AWA and was already over Austin came up with the gimmick and vince wanted him as a heel Rock vince had as a clean cut babyface, JR came up with the 3rd person promo Cena was almost cut until someone heard him rapping Edit - undertaker is the one he came up with

[@lukesmith9692]

Goes up to every person and asked them. That makes things uncomfortable just saying. Of course they will say yeah sure I liked it.

[@martinitime1975]

Vince hates guys getting themselves over, he wants everything to be his ideas

[@masterj4777]

Everybody in that company is a yes man except for Shane McMahon! All these YES men are the reason why this company in going in the toilet! 🤦

[@davidmitchell6873]

From 1985 until the beginning of the attitude era the wwf was cartoon content made for little kids.

[@durden2480]

Bullshit he wasn’t allowed to do the franchise character. It would’ve been the catalyst for the attitude era along with stone cold

[@mikeplumer7687]

Vince listened to guys in mid 90s because he was desperate. Theres a reason such a smart guy has failed at everything but wrestling - XFL, bodybuilding federation, ICOpro, restaurant etc. Oldest saying in Stamford- audience doesnt matter. Its a one man show. Impress Vince you're golden

[@SoFlyBmOr3]

If you make Vince alot of money and you draw he will value your opinion more. Much like in regular jobs your boss will give more credence to the guy who is a star worker for him rather than a guy he doesn't feel is a necessary part of the team

[@liamgraer9594]

Nah theres hundreds of talented people who could have made millions for vince but wwe and their terrible creative was used to prevent them getting over more than wwe wanted. Santino marella and Vladimir koslov now they weren't my cup of tea but people found them very entertaining and they were getting over so wwe removed them from tv .aron stevens and all the terrible gimmicks he somehow made entertaining so again they removed him from TV .armando estrada got over with a catchphrase so he was removed from tv .braun strowman got over but more over than thy wanted so he was removed from tv. Cesaros big swing.zack ryders youtube show.the fiend n all his goofy rubbish.rusev day. Justin roberts big match intros so many times there has been something working that people like and could get behind and spend some money on merch etc but cause wwe were trying to get some other thing over (usually involving the shield , the authority or a combination of the two) they not only dont encourage this natural fan following of whatever is getting over they work to undermine it.can you imagine of when hogan started doing promos with hulkamania and was gettin over so the wwf had him stop sayin brother as they wanted the gobbledy gooker to be over instead

[@PrezidentHughes]

That's why they are few genuine stars nowadays. Vince thinks he made all those stars from what he did, so he thinks every idea he has is the best. And especially now with much less competition, he can afford to ignore the ideas of the talent. Remember that time he ignored Austin, then Austin didn't show up for work for weeks. And that was after WCW was already closed. He couldn't try that in the late 90s. But now, he can't just run the show however he wants because he knows he's the only show in town. And he won the war of the territories by forcing the WWF product down everyone throat nationally. If it was based on raw booking, he would not have been as successful. I could see why him and Trump got along so well.

[@johnfalcetta5431]

Vince tolerated HBK and stone cold fighting back during the Monday night war, but once it was over look at how terrible the creative was for Austin.

[@blueblur2273]

Completely agree but the creative wasn't just bad for Austin it was terrible period. The WWF got immensely better in the late 90s because Vince got out of the way for most of his talent. Once the company went public he began slowly controlling everything again.

[@mringram]

A lot of McMahon fans in here I see.....

[@billymiller6709]

Yes you are right your boss you would be a yes man too if not you wouldn't have a job

[@ReanimatorsMutilations]

@@billymiller6709 so if your boss told you to run down the street naked you would be like " yes sir, I need the money thank you sir" 😂😂

[@mringram]

@@billymiller6709 if you say so

[@sugartbube]

I 100000% believe Shane

[@JoshOrtiz88]

I've always gotten fat Russell Crowe vibes from Shane Douglas.

[@KayFabe87]

Heyman may have allowed the wrestlers a bit more creative freedom as compared to McMahon, but Vince wasn't bouncing checks. Tough to support your family on "creative freedom".

[@masterj4777]

Not a smart move going to WWF/WWE for anybody especially from ECW 🤦

[@johngreen4115]

This guy amazes himself.

[@hubertgreen]

Most people är scared of losing there jobs. I would probably say the same thing, I like you shane, but you wont pay my bills if I get fired so I have to agree with Vince. most people here would do the same. its not a good cultur but if i dont get money i cant afford my apartment and I dont get food sp i will be homless and starving.

[@josephmiller9424]

Micheal Hayes is a yes man because he knows at any time he can be fired with all he has done he has to be and one day Vince will do a Donald Trump and say YOUR FIRED !!!

[@freeman4real]

For that story at 4:40 when he said everybody else was like "that's what we said too" If I was Shane and it was me I would of bursted out laughing at them all being that huge of "D**k riders" 🤣🤣💯🤡🤡

[@liltwistofcaine]

‘Goddammit, I was Dude! I should’ve been wcw champ. Vince let Shawn Michaels….’ It’s the same goddamn interview every tine….

[@bronsonschnitzel7493]

Shane sounds like he listened to Shawn's shoot interviews a little too much. Even has the dip going on.

[@Auroraeevee-m1q]

I haven't seen any videos of Shane where he was using dip thus far. Could someone use dip for almost 9 minutes without spitting at least once? I saw the HBK shoot interview where he was chewing and he was spitting into a bottle every few minutes.

[@fjccommish]

ECW was crap. It had a tiny audience, and it didn't make money. The best idea was to do whatever was as far as possible from what was being done in ECW.

[@1223steffen]

Vince lost my support after this interview

[@THE_CDN]

McMahon made ONE good wrestler: The Undertaker. Everyone else had their own gimmick before he came along. It's laughable when people call him a "genius"; he has the mind of a carny child, and it's shown in his product. He's also very petty by saddling great wrestlers with deliberately sh!te gimmicks. He's insecure as f@ck, hence his entourage of yes-men.

[@billyclub56]

So, Vince is a lot like Trump

[@georgemaranville3305]

Sound guys are always bored.

[@jamesmckeon9139]

Douglas was in wwf for a cup of coffee has spent 30 years talking about these stories

[@roccoz2231]

The number of hours Shane has spent in shoot interviews talking about his 1995 WWF run exceeds the number of hours that Douglas actually appeared on WWF TV in 1995....

[@pizzahighfive2612]

Wrestling is dead because of Vince

[@Bale4Bond]

Well Shane, how far did your own, carefully crafted "no-man" culture get you?

[@Blackjacksarmory]

The best heel run in wrestling history and multiple times world champion and after Vince Bought ECW, WCW paid the Franchise $600,000 a year for 3 years.

[@DaveMoth]

Looks like he's doing better than many from his era. Well spoken and looks healthy so I think he did just fine.

[@Bale4Bond]

@@Blackjacksarmory "The best heel run in wrestling-history" HAHAHA...good one

[@TheAYM91]

@@Bale4Bond Just because you are an idiot who sees Roman as a good heel, doesn't mean the rest of the world forgot The Franchise Shane Douglas.

[@Bale4Bond]

@@TheAYM91 ahh..so because i find Douglas to be overrated i must automatically be an enabler of the likes of Roman Reigns.. What terrible logic.

[@jeffreyklima7612]

This guy is definitely a mark for himself

[@ronniemacdonald2768]

Another 10 minutes of the Dynamic Dude putting himself over. Ah yes, quality content.

[@allenbaxter5180]

Lost interest after it went Hollywood style.

[@MB-oc1nw]

I'm sick of hearing this guy blame everyone else for his failure in the BIG TIME...so far Vince, Pat Paterson, Shawn Michaels, X-Pac, Nash, JR and the Undertaker are all the reasons why he never succeeded in WWF...every shoot I've seen he never takes responsibility for himself

[@johnkolko5199]

The Kliq did do him in, combined w that crappy gimmick. He was put in a no win situation.

[@MB-oc1nw]

@@johnkolko5199 Wahhhhhhh it's not fair!!!!!....that's his story of events. Other people tell it differently

[@mistermann3225]

He straight-up telling you in this interview that he tried to get himself over and Vince wouldn't allow it. What else was he supposed to do?

[@MB-oc1nw]

@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt Read my first post