Shannon Sharpe & Gilbert Arenas debate if Kevin Durant is better than Larry Bird | Nightcap

[@GrapeTeaNews]

Larry Bird was a 3-Time MVP & 3x Champion. And he played defense for the entirety of his career. He beat the bulls/sixers/lakers/pistons/etc. Ofcourse he’s better than KD! 😂😂😂

[@Aaron-gn5sj]

💯

[@TheNyion912]

That bird team was stacked and the league sucked around that time but 🐦 was great

[@clutchup4391]

bro just stop look at his teams depth the man literally never had to leave they he got drafted to a championship team😭

[@edlang8828]

Bird didn’t play defense the hell

[@zoradelaney9412]

@@edlang8828 Bird's three All-Defensive Team honors would disagree with you......

[@KombatRacer]

Bird was the guy that was getting in other people’s heads, not the one letting other people get into his.

[@deckardaaron]

But when someone gets in KD head, he give them 40 at least

[@juicetiggy2430]

So is pat bev

[@smackd1870]

that has nothing to do with basketball. Kevin Garnett got in peoples heads, he's not better than KD, LeBron, Steph. Lol.

[@brian519]

Facts

[@2cents250]

everyone has bad series and games. numbers dont lie kd is a killer and he averages more points in elimination games in the playoffs than Bird.

[@SKVLiN3]

How is it that when debating MJ vs. Lebron, Gil and others would say “MJ played in a physical era,” but now when it’s Bird vs Durant “Bird played against crackheads.”

[@Zeuwamakanuwadiegwu]

😂

[@angelmacedon496]

Gil is full of it! He is Mr Hyperbole!

[@mosesygo4118]

Gil been saying that just saying he has been consistant

[@mosesygo4118]

I think gil talks the way he talks cause he don't have any rings if he had one I think he would be talking different

[@atlnla4112]

The move the goal post to fit their argument.

[@soccerpunch1851]

In 1979 the Celtics only won 29 games, In 1980, when Larry Bird arrived, the Celtics won 61 games, with no other changes to their roster! He made his teammates better.

[@ivorywatts3881]

Soccer punch1851 that roster included Mkal ,Parrish ,Johnson three hall famer that was Boston super team Minnesota gave Boston Makal worriers gave them Parrish Seattle gave them Johnson

[@soccerpunch1851]

That’s true, but those three were acquired right after Bird’s rookie year.Check out the 79-80 season roster for the Celtics(Larry Bird rookie year)👊😁

[@something2consider783]

Just think if he had Len Bias running shotgun with him, they might have won ten championships like the 1960 Celtics. Len Bias would have given MJ a nice run for his money.

[@soccerpunch1851]

@@something2consider783 For Sure! 👊😁

[@caseysager655]

Sometimes when I hear Gil's takes it makes me think he'd fit in perfectly in the so called "drugged up 80's" as his takes generally make him sound like he's on something.

[@youngblood23rb]

Hot takes to get clicks and headlines

[@Vito_Caligiuri]

Like what he said about Hakeem.

[@naklovesjesus3204]

Gil be scared to say anything KD 😑

[@cristianlopez6801]

He speaking truth about that dope head era… mj himself put it into the last dance that his team were doing drugs… imagine kd going up against Cole heads back then? He’d average 40 on them bums

[@caseysager655]

@@cristianlopez6801 The Bulls were an outlier and had several bad apples on the team then. Not every team was filled with drug addicts,that’s a ridiculous argument on his part.

[@AlucardMM]

People forget that Larry Bird didn’t grow up with the three point line, because it just simply didn’t exist and it got added on late into his basketball life. Yet somehow Larry Bird, was the first player to accomplish the 50-40-90 achievement, and one of three players to achieve the feat in multiple seasons.

[@AlucardMM]

@@ndm335 all of this is true but I think we are just heavily downplaying the fact that the three point line just didn’t exist and no one besides, maybe pistol Pete shot from the deep consistently. It was just an entirely new concept that they didn’t grow up with. It’s almost as if shooting from the three-point line now grandma style is now worth four points. How many people could just take that idea and do it at a high lvl.

[@kam_12_]

@@AlucardMMfaxx imagine a young larry actually putting up shots knowing how valuable 3 points was as opposed to 2. his whole game would have been different, we remember him as a shooter but he was much more of a slasher and mid range assassin . regardless bird > kd

[@naklovesjesus3204]

Gil saying KD is top 10 and over Bird is insane 😅 Sometimes Gil cant be trusted.

[@Iamfrankdeniro]

@@naklovesjesus3204 it's a common fact KD better than Bird

[@naklovesjesus3204]

@@Iamfrankdeniro Lol 😂 okay Gil

[@MrBrick68]

Gilbert is nuts, Bird is most definitely over Durant

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

Kd has more all stars more all nba more scoring titles same fmvps more points rebounds n as😢sists top 10 in scoring bro pls y’all hate Kd so much it’s sad

[@GC_35]

​@@DtxhoodygnggamingIk right it's just sad KD doesn't deserve all the hate he's an historic player that we'll never see again like just appreciate greatness

[@Jp2timezz]

@@GC_35on god

[@Jp2timezz]

Better then kd at what? U bet not say scoring or defense Durant clears easily bird era Was shitty as fuck he wasn’t going against the talent that Durant going against today yall just hating on kd or not tryna let the pass go💯💯

[@Cashman2024-j2p]

Player for player talent wise KD but overall bird

[@MECHEFKEE]

Bird a whole LEGEND

[@roygarrett1865]

Flawless Victory

[@s4mp_founder]

He is, just not better than Durant

[@ShawnSmith-420]

@@s4mp_founder i mean you aren't wrong but i'm taking bird 10 out of 10 times over durant simply cause bird is a whole menace on the court and durant is a whole bitch on the court lol

[@bluechannel.]

By Gil’s logic Majic, Bird,& Jordan all played against plumbers!

[@kyshaunsmith154]

They did..

[@epps619]

"I can burn past a crackhead" got me weeakkkkk

[@domo2sev1]

Fucking dead 💀!!!😅😂

[@chief2097]

In 15-20 years players are gonna be saying things about this era like…..I can burn past a podcaster or a KZbinr

[@nelsonposey1711]

Booo only draymond got a podcast and he ass booo

[@jonmolina948]

76ers, Hawks, Bucks, and Pistons were not crackheads. Those were solid defensive teams in the 80’s.

[@RUFF-]

Tripping how many players have got busted for drugs and guns in the 2000s and domestics

[@something2consider783]

Agent Zero...has lost his mind. Bird is better than Durant and I like Durant.

[@escobarblu3983]

Aye what you smoking

[@something2consider783]

@@escobarblu3983 Durant is still searching. At this stage of the game, Durant is running from Tatum, which is why he is in the West. Just think if Bird had Len Bias and Reggie Lewis. Durant hasn't won anything without Steph and Klay.

[@leonardoyi3183]

Agent Zero is smoking something. When you count the totality durant is better? what totality? steph has more awards and titles than KD. Of what totality he is talking?....comparing trae young to steph? what is wrong with Agent zero. What Kd brings can not be replaced? well, from what i see, poole and wiggins covered durant absence to win the title two years ago. It seems more likely that what steph brings can not be replaced. Even Jokic and Giannis, should be ranked higher than KD.

[@cjrobinson6588]

More accomplished yes, better, no.

[@devantepearson]

Cap asf bird never seen a 7 foot guard head to head bird wouldn’t even get the ball

[@hykmantaffa]

This should not be debated, one is Bus driver and the other one is bus rider, Larry all the way.

[@smackd1870]

larry would be a bench driver in today's league. 80s is weak

[@GC_35]

Both bus drivers. Bird got drafted to a stacked team while Durant ha always been the best and most efficient player on any team he has been on. Including the Warriors. A bus rider goes to a team, wins championchips, doesn't make the difference and just walks away with the chips. KD didn't do that. He almost three peated as the best player while averaging 35 ppg in the first Finals and 30 in the second sweeping Lebron James in one of his best years of his career almost twice in a row. We can close the debate now. KD is and has always been the best player and the leader in every team he went to.

[@Jp2timezz]

@@smackd1870on god he will 💯💯

[@smackd1870]

@@GC_35 preach king loads of weird haters in the comments who just hate KD

[@KinGAdil019]

@@GC_35KD was not the leader in GS. He was their weapon. Used to off set Steph Curry. He got more open dunks and lay ups I’ve seen in a while in a Finals. Everyone was doubling Steph to let KD get easy points. And it doesn’t take away from what he did. It’s just hard to say he’s the best player and leader when that happens. Even with Bird having a stacked team, everyone on the team and whoever they faced that night knew Bird was the man. He didn’t play with a guy that could off set him to average 35 in the playoffs vs other legendary teams.

[@garabaush]

Larry Bird was both an amazing shooter and a legendary passer. I understand that Kevin Durant takes and makes a lot of difficult shots, but Larry made smarter shot taking decisions and lesser risked taking bad shots while making more effective passes

[@CoolTy23]

Gilbert doesnt want to get on Durants bad side smh.

[@Jrock420blam]

well his mommas bad side Durant tissue soft

[@naklovesjesus3204]

Gil is scared of KD... He and Stephen A, be shook 😂

[@jaliancasey5409]

Tip toed just like he did with the GOAT convo

[@naklovesjesus3204]

@@jaliancasey5409 Lol 😂 Twinkle toes Gil when it comes to KD

[@derrickhoward1543]

He's a jealous Steph hater. He even lies

[@cesarduenez9531]

Gill out of he’s mind lmaooo kd ain’t over bird or curry

[@GC_35]

He's easily over Curry and with Bird there's a debate. Sorry but I'm not putting one guy with 4 rings but only 1 fmvp that without shooting threes is just a normal playmaker over a man that as always been the best player on every team he has been on. Even the championship team with the "MVP" Curry in there. Curry doesn't belong in the top 10, KD does. Him and Bird are battling to see who's the 2nd best PF of all time.

[@jdankerdake]

​@@GC_35 Judging Curry "without shooting threes" is like judging Shaq without dunks or Jordan without midrange jumpers - stupid. Two rings and one regular season MVP don't get you in the Top 10. Bird was a better passer (6.3 apg to 4.4 apg) rebounder (10 rpg to 7rpg) and defender (2.5 to 2.2 steals + blocks) than KD. Bird made 3 All-Defense Teams. KD's made 0. Bird won 3 MVPs. KD won 1. Bird won 3 rings. KD won 2. He's not better than Bird or even in the same tier.

[@Papageno123]

if KD is the better player, why can't he win anything with better talent? Your eyes are very easily fooled, Curry impacts the game more than KD does. KD has all the talent in the world, but having all the talent doesn't mean you actually are the best. Knowing how to win is the best skill there is and KD needs someone who has that skill to win, he doesn't have it himself.@@GC_35

[@SoggySlopster]

He’s leagues above curry but he might catch bird by the end of his career.

[@qudariwilkinson9538]

@@SoggySlopstergtfo Steph leagues above him

[@davontebrown4491]

With Gil saying Steph didn’t have a great start to his career due to the ankle injuries and didn’t have the accolades Shows why Curry is better because after Curry first 4-5 seasons in the league he caught fire and started gaining major accolades after that with a slow start to the beginning of his careers so that makes him even better Championships, Mvp’s, final mvp, 10 allstar game selections, and creating a dynasty in Golden state Curry is a top 10 players hands down

[@KingG82]

Gil for being a such a good hooper says some dumb shit on here 😂

[@ZozoZoz-qh1ku]

how da fk durant better the BIRD? how?

[@Tar9p]

Gilbert is bitter.

[@ishehim416]

The league sucked back then? Team was stacked? Did u not watch the video

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

lol he averages more pts assist n rebounds more all stars n all nbas also same 2 fmvps

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

Kd has more pts

[@smackd1870]

@@Dtxhoodygnggaming preach lol

[@shyifocus6871]

Jordan did not run that 80’s. That was the Lakers and Celtics and Detroit at the end. Mike dominated the 90’s. Bird is a legend who should be mentioned more. And great podcast

[@alucard3374]

Gil using the KG argument, “I’d rather draft KD or pick him in a game of pickup” Gil just ranks players on skill set. If that’s the case TMac is a top 10 player ever.

[@Jason09_]

Kyrie too 😂

[@clutchup4391]

your trying to be sarcastic but your absolutely right…

[@KombatRacer]

And Wemby cracking the Top 25 as we speak 😂

[@barkonchain]

Prime TMAC is a top 10 player....guy was insane. A dog, straight buckets and athleticism

[@theworkethic]

@@barkonchainyou read all the comments and still wrote this garbage. Smh.

[@truthiscensored]

Gil has said on his podcast anyone who played before 1985-86 was trash. He always try to discredit those guys. This era can be discredited too...they just a brunch of pod-casters, KZbinrs and social Media influencers who play basketball and they can't wait for the game to be over so they can tweet, post to IG and do a Podcast episode

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

He said bird top 10 Kd better

[@brandong5676]

Man 😂

[@MikeBNumba6]

That's because guys like Gil never truly studied the game. Pre Jordan, white owners were in constant battle with the black players as more and more black players were demanding to be treated better, have bigger contracts and more freedom to move to other teams. While that was going on, white fans and white sports reporters were being whiny little racists complaining that the black players were ungrateful and all they did was do drugs and fight each other so they should be happy with what they were being paid. That is where the myth came from. To add, this was also during the war on drugs policy where white media was making blacks look like drug abusers. So everytime ONE black player got in trouble with drugs it got blown out of proportion. The same happened recently in the NFL with the domestic violence issues.

[@mikeillgaming4224]

And can barley play 50 games

[@mattc5647]

All these oldheads do is diss basketball now. They deserve some smoke. Glad Gil and JJ giving it to those cab drivers.

[@alchemist9360]

Gil out his mind if he thinks KD is even close to the player that Steph is.

[@l9ikjam]

When the games were on the line, which player waa given the ball and told to win the game?

[@alchemist9360]

@@l9ikjam Which one did teams gameplan for more? Tyrone lue even quoted it against them in the finals on who they emphasized the defensive game plan around. Please explain how If I can win on my own while the other guy can't even sniff the finals but once without me how's he better?

[@slickjustgotpaid9865]

@@l9ikjamshaq never took the last shot and he was better than Kobe at those times. It’s a team game. And curry was the leader and him winning after kd left validated everything he did

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

@@slickjustgotpaid9865lol Kd way better than Steph

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

@@alchemist9360also this double team narrative is false go look at Kd highlights first game they tried bron on him other games he was doubled

[@mwaithephoto]

Gil is talking stupid. Steph was already under contract the year KD was up for his contract. Gil is talking to hear himself talk

[@robertoenriquez3659]

but once they give the max contract away they wouldn't be able to give another one away in the coming years

[@ThisIsBrianMcKnight]

That’s what Gil does 😂

[@bklyyynn]

@@robertoenriquez3659you could also argue that Steph would’ve been the one most likely to take a home discount hence why they offered it to KD. Steph probably will never leave

[@derrickhoward1543]

He be lying.

[@robclassified2280]

Smh you can tell this guy doesn’t know or understand what Gil is talking about

[@arthurwilliams7307]

If KD had that "dawg" in him like LB, he would have won in OKC

[@l9ikjam]

Lol what dog? You mean forming superteams?

[@noleyestoad4477]

We gotta start keeping shit real! Larry had 1 of the 3 squads of the decade in the 80she was a hell of a player but yall give him too much credit at times!

[@c1abe]

Bron don't have no dog. That's the main factor that differentiates him from MJ

[@truthiscensored]

@@noleyestoad4477 A Team that was trash before and after Bird left. A team that was constantly in the finals but couldn't make it again once Bird hurt his back... Also the Celtics won 32 more games Bird's rookie Year (1979-80) than the year before he came... The Celtics also lost 15 more games the Year (1988-89)Bird hurt his back than the previous year when they went to the Finals... But you say Bird gets too much credit??? He the reason the Celtics won

[@GC_35]

Lebron doesn't have no dawg in him. KD is more dawg than Lebron is and we should all know that. Lebron started the superteam thing to beat KD in the Finals. If he was still in Cleveland in 2012 KD would've gotten that ring.

[@roberttyrrell5315]

Bird averaged 6 more rebounds, 4 more assists, and 2 more steals than Maxwell in those Finals. Maxwell averaged 2 more points on better shooting than Bird, but that's only because the Rockets concentrated on stopping Bird and that left Cedric open.

[@slickjustgotpaid9865]

Gil you my guy. But cmon man. Kd 1 mvp bird 3mvp Kd 2 rings. Bird 3 rings Bird has more accolades, a better passer, kd is a better scorer but both td and him shoot the same. And bird didn’t join magic Johnson after he lost

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

Kd has more all stars more all nba more scoring titles same fmvps more points rebounds n as😢sists top 10 in scoring bro pls y’all hate Kd so much it’s sad

[@MichaelPainter-v7w]

@@Dtxhoodygnggamingyeah all longevity stats. Kd ain’t even top 2 in his own era

[@Manaconda-Mike]

Ty Lue on Warriors' Stephen Curry: “He's so dangerous, probably the most dangerous player in the league the way he can get hot... In 2017 and 2018 we blitzed him with Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson on the floor. That's how dangerous I think he is.”

[@chriss1875]

In people’s mind they still think of Larry Bird as the guy on the Dream Team with the bad back. Go back and look at his highlights before the injury.

[@moneymoney3235]

Kd highlights will always be better….

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@moneymoney3235Heck, James Harden's highlights will be better than Bird's, but Bird's will always be more meaningful.

[@fearofsaturn]

@@moneymoney3235 jamal crawfords highlights are better than tim duncans, does that he means hes a better player??

[@moneymoney3235]

@@fearofsaturn 2 different positions but those guys actually played eachother and Duncan made defensive team more than anyone. Bird and kd didn’t play eachother and kd would look like an alien playing against bird.

[@welcometwoidaho]

Bruh ain’t nobody saying KD is better than Curry 😂

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

lol actually ppl who not casual no Kd better Kd avg more pts rebounds n assists Kd better defender to n more clutch

[@Gosports15]

@@DtxhoodygnggamingKD has never been more clutch and the biggest shot of KD life was in a series he was up 2-0. We have never seen KD get thru real adversity to win a title

[@GC_35]

Lmfao all the people who know ball say that. KD is better than Steph at literally everything that belongs to basketball skills except shooting threes. (KD is still more efficient than him even at that but nevermind y'all casuals just say anything)

[@welcometwoidaho]

The “people who know ball” argument is wack. I played 20+ years including pro, I’m not a KD hater at all but if we’re looking a careers I’m going with Steph all day.

[@craxyman9025]

​@@DtxhoodygnggamingBruh you're casual AF if you think KD is better than Steph. Steph has dominated the NBA and only LeBron has been his rival. What has KD done without Steph? C'mon...you don't have a leg to stand on honestly. Steph even beat KD head to head when it counted and KD joined him in order to win. How can you argue against that?

[@BasketballJones48021]

Bird has at least a top5 GOAT prime… enough said!

[@Saviiq]

Devin booker better than bird dude

[@ian0143]

​@Saviiq lay off the pipe, fella.

[@eastwood_ib2126]

Facts easily

[@jactarawadley6037]

​@@SaviiqBird 3 time MVP, 3 time champ, 12 time NBA all star. You may wanna re-think that.

[@tari8134]

@@jactarawadley6037 MVP is an opinion, not an objective fact. So that's out. Champions are usually determined by who has the better overall team, not which individual player is better. So that's also irrelevant. And NBA all-star is also an opinion because it's based on votes, not anything objective.

[@Yooshutup]

I thought it was obvious curry was ranked higher than KD all time I’m surprised it’s even a debate

[@keithbperrin9633]

Bird was BY FAR better than kd...rebounding passing assists killer instinct toughness....its not close...even shooting..I'll take bird in the clutch over kd in a HEARTBEAT.....ohhhhhh and he led his team in 2 championships...Cedric maxwell got mvp of 1

[@scolarchi]

U gotta be a fool to take KD over Steph 😂😂😂😂

[@GC_35]

You just gotta know ball to take KD over Steph. Doing the opposite is sinonimun with being a casual meatrider

[@torreywallace1494]

Durant got swept against the Celtics. Curry gave them ppl a masterclass. Stop it

[@rylo8266]

Kd was the best player on the warriors

[@Davis398]

If that’s the case then Wilt, Shaq, and Kareem getting drafting first every time.

[@henrylowery3297]

Gil is on one. He's trying to answer the wrong question. The question isn't who would I take in a draft, it's who's nba career was better. KD isn't in the conversation with Steph or Bird. Then Gil lied about the max contract for no reason.

[@lamontjennings307]

Bird was a monster. Go ask Magic, Isiah, and anyone that he played against. Bird called his shot on the court and got buckets

[@_KITE]

I would never draft KD over Curry lmao Curry has been on one team his entire career meanwhile KD might leave Phoenix in a few years 😂

[@Bob-te3le]

Facts. It's simple Curry won without Durant 2 times. Durant has played with way more great players than Curry has played with. Durant has come up way short to Curry in everything.

[@ThriceGr3at]

KD is one of the greats, but he’s overhyped because he’s a 7footer with a good handle (for his height) and he can shoot. He doesn’t have the intangibles to lead his own team to a championship tho. That’s why Steph is better and Larry Bird is definitely better.

[@cw1229]

KD bandwagoning a 73win b2b finals team has really but homie in conversations he does not belong in. His career in OKC/BK/PHX is not top 20/30 all time worthy hoping on the ALREADY best team in the league that was beating everybody and beat you doesn’t magically boost you up

[@michaelsevilla3697]

exactly there's zero case for cupcake kd to be in the top 10

[@Cannon4545]

Career Stats Bird KD Points 24.3. 27.3 Assists 6.3 4.4 Rebounds. 10.0. 7.0 Steals 1.7 1.1

[@jswifttt]

Bird passing , IQ and also being on both sides of the ball full game puts him ahead of kd fr , I do love KD but Bird is DIFFERENT 💯💯

[@tonyvalente]

Gilbert is way off . Bird was a beast and a master clutch shooter .

[@atlnla4112]

What Gil and young guys don’t understand is that rings don’t matter, but winning matters. Especially your contribution to winning. Durant doesn’t have signature games or series where he put a team on his back and got it done. And not just points.

[@nerdsworthpoindexter6661]

Kareem said his toughest opponent was Bird. Let that sink in.

[@leonardoyi3183]

trae young is nowhere near steph curry....

[@Bang0ut824]

Fr Gil be yappin😂

[@stixscofield8312]

😂😂😂 right 😢😢😢

[@dbstewart86]

I think what he was trying to say is that because of the weak ankles early in Steph's career, through 5.5 seasons he's right in the neighborhood of where Steph was after that much time. Problem with what he said is that Luka has the same amount of time and has 50 more threes than Trae.

[@leonardoyi3183]

@@dbstewart86 its quite a terrible example. Steph had at that point around a 44-3p%. Trae has a 35-3p%. Even luka is nowhere near steph in terms of 3p%.

[@dbstewart86]

@@leonardoyi3183 I'm not talking percentages though, I mean just makes. Trae and Luka are already both over 1k

[@cflo1386]

I grew up watching the NBA in the 80s and 90s; the decade that had the greatest line-up and the greatest teams assembled were in the 80s: the 83 Sixers, the 86 Celtics, and the 87 Lakers. Also, like it or not the defensive jugernaut 89 Pistons are on my list as well. Lastly, Larry had to face these teams in his prime and his decline. Players feared Bird, but nobody fears KD. KD isn't even top ten, plus, I have Curry over KD.

[@vincente4570]

Agreed

[@byronprice225]

Put Respect On Larry Birds name. I never seen anyone win a 3 point contest in their sweats. He was The Real Deal.

[@Spartakiss]

Bird plated in a timely when basketball was more physical. Their is not a legit debate

[@RSMoreno]

If Luka and Jokic can dominate this era, so can Bird

[@Cwal65]

If Bird's back wouldn't have cut his career short we would be having a total different conversation!!

[@juanio7036]

Agree. He already top 20 unquestionably some say top 15 some top 10 but top 20 is no question. If he’d remain healthy he would have played those last 3 seasons at a higher level and maybe even 2 more after that before he declined. Idk he would have won another chip with that aging group he had but he would definitely made all nba teams and stat stuffed

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

@@juanio7036I don’t know anyone in there right mind who doesn’t have Bird in the top 10. For me he’s always hovering in that 5-7 range and definitely was top 5 when he retired

[@mannymatencio1279]

​@@juanio7036nobody put bird on top 20 or top 15 on list he's place was always top 10

[@cb-c0lorblind]

Even with his back he still kilt them on the court

[@eastwood_ib2126]

@@juanio7036 top 20 ? Stfu 🤫 ur basketball card is revoked ! Bird in his prime is top 5 easy for me

[@shvnlocalcrew]

Ain’t nobody putting KD over Bird and Curry

[@TheeKingMaker]

Markkanen to the Warriors would be perfect

[@Hargazer]

True but the Warriors have no value outside of Steph and Kumminga, both of which they don't want to lose

[@Cwal65]

Gil is crazy!!!!!! KD is not better than Bird!!!!!!

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

How he not more avg rebounds pts and assists top 10 in scoring one on one who winning?

[@hotsizler305]

​@@Dtxhoodygnggamingbird is a better rebounder, better passer and a better defender, only thing you can give kd is scoring and even that is not clear cut lol

[@GC_35]

​@@hotsizler305Nah you're out of your mind

[@something2consider783]

Agent Zero is smoking that OG "Monkey Paw".

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

Huh? Kd a better rebounder a better defender can guard 1 through 5 bird a better passer that’s it Kd will kill bird pls stop

[@justinmcclarthy6271]

Gil is wild for these takes.

[@c.falcon5045]

Bird is in my Top 3 and should be in everyone's Top 5.

[@jubjubhenry5612]

Exactly, I have Kobe over LeBron but I can’t put Kobe over Larry. Larry is top 5 based on peak and elite skills, his resume is enough to justify it.

[@c.falcon5045]

@@jubjubhenry5612 LeBron is #8 for me.

[@zayzaydamack]

Gotta be bate wtf Lebron behind Bird is nuts

[@jubjubhenry5612]

@@zayzaydamack nah Bron over Bird is nuts. only doofs who never saw Larry play would ever conceive of a take like that.

[@c.falcon5045]

@jubjubhenry5612 Big Facts, straight up!!💯💯 Bron couldn't see Prime Bird.

[@TheMissiIe]

This is why no one takes Gilbert seriously. One day he'll have a good take, then the next he says dumbshit like this

[@Bob-te3le]

Facts

[@julianvaughnmusic]

Bird will always be in my top 10

[@dcthebeatlord2732]

So you’re saying no matter what anyone else does in the future you’ll never acknowledge they’re better? lol alright

[@julianvaughnmusic]

@@dcthebeatlord2732 get those subscribers up

[@rashanlynn7133]

I love how inspired Gil is from those players in the 80s 🙏🏾🌫️

[@dominicharris5489]

Larry Bird was simply a more complete player than KD. higher IQ, better and smarter defender, probably just as or even more clutch, great scorer in his own right even if KD was better at that. He was more impactful of a player than KD. Its debatable but its Bird

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

Kd is easily the better/more valuable player. Easy.

[@Jp2timezz]

Facts it’s not even close Kd would torch dude 1v1 it want even be funny💯

[@RawCyberHub]

@@Jp2timezz "torch" lol Bird is a hybrid of Seph and KD... and tougher than both.. let that sink in.

[@Covertghost]

@@Jp2timezz bird would tell KD he's going to hit a left handed shot in the corner in his face, and then KD would be rattled the rest of the game u right u can't compare them

[@oldmovieman7550]

Bird would make Durant cry before sticking a game winning three in his face.

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

Kd has more all stars more all nba more scoring titles same fmvps more points rebounds n as😢sists top 10 in scoring bro pls y’all hate Kd so much it’s sad

[@MrZackavelli]

@@Dtxhoodygnggaming Are we talking prime? Bird only played 12 seasons, but what he did in those 12 seasons is far more impressive than anything KD has done

[@tonylittle7288]

Bird was my favorite player.

[@LindleySmith-e1w]

Bird was simply a better player than KD. Bird played the whole game.

[@DNice-xc4bg]

Gil you sleep. Larry was a beast. Larry's peak was as good as anyone's Bron an Magic included.

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

Bird for half a decade was the best player in the league. Durant had only one year where everyone said he was the best (his MVP year). That alone is good enough for me to say Bird > Durant not too mention he’s a better playmaker, rebounder, passer, team defender (at times, peak Durant is better defender), just as efficient (given eras), more clutch in the postseason with scoring and shooting I’d have slight edge to Durant which can be argued cause of era differences

[@randyquesada5545]

Larry Legend

[@DibbzTV]

It's pretty close but Bird takes the cake. Durant might have more raw talent, but Bird was TOUGH and clutch as hell. Those are intangibles in my book

[@l9ikjam]

Keep saying kd joined curry but people ignored the fact that the warriors came and convinced him to join. If it was the other way around, people would be saying kd had to get curry to come save him

[@Hargazer]

Doesn't matter. If Curry needed a title and fmvp to save his career, then KD who still joined the Warriors needs to at least win another title

[@l9ikjam]

@@Hargazer actually kd had already saved his career. If the warriors wouldn't have came back and beat that cavs team, they wouldn't have ever been able to live that down. I don't know what people want to pretend the warriors came after kd just to be nice

[@johnnybuchananjr9344]

Convinced so the man doesnt have his own mind He could have said no right? If you do not want to do something no matter what anybody throws at you you can say no Just lke he said no to the max money

[@neutral_narr]

Doesn't change the fact that KD HASNT WON OUTSIDE

[@l9ikjam]

@@johnnybuchananjr9344 he chose and was happy to joined the warriors. That don't change that fanboys still ignored the warriors coming to kd and saying come help us

[@garysalazar5279]

Bird could dominate without scoring.

[@danielmazhandu9316]

Gilbert Arenas should be more objective at this point in his career. He uses emotions instead of being objective. Bird and Durant are light years apart. Bird was the best player on one of the best teams in the NBA in the 80s. Bird influenced winning... He was a 3 time back to back MVP. If GA continues on this path, he will lose his following on his show...

[@blerdbuffetpodcast8730]

What Kd brings cant be replaced but who says what he brings results in a championship

[@kjski21]

So he using KD accolades over Curry but discounting Bird accolades over Durant.

[@Skraticks]

He didnt really use accolades, he also argued who’d you’d draft on your team

[@izzy9189]

​@@Skraticks he did use accolades though 😂

[@samuelfaria8522]

Bird it’s probably the only guy in NBA history that could beat KD 1 on 1.

[@curtlyshort4613]

😂 Gil just say anything

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

lol how saying Kd better saying anything stop being a hater

[@Jp2timezz]

@@Dtxhoodygnggamingong

[@ldybozz]

Name another player other than Larry that played with a broken back for half his career and still dominated the league. Gilbert was a ball player talking crazy? #birdgang 💚🐐🍀

[@caopao]

Bird all day

[@deehollywood6013]

I'm taking Bird every day of the week. 3 straight MVPs If i'm not mistaken. You could argue Bird is better at every phase

[@skipbayless4375]

Historically, Curry will be ranked higher

[@hugolizard]

This isn’t a skill set or who would win in a 1:1 argument. Being in the top 10 of all time is about accomplishments.

[@ld4974]

Arenas must not have ever seen Bird play.

[@DANNYxBOY9089]

It's always the players that never made it to the finals or never won that say they don't mean much.

[@chuckrambo4401]

I gotta debate whether anyone who thinks Durant is in Birds league has ever seen a Basketball

[@joeymanny]

Prime Bird before back injury is way above than Durant, and if compare after back injury and DUrant after injury, still Bird got better

[@christianluu2994]

"Birds team was dominant" Mfer acting like Russ, Ibaka, Harden, Kevin Martin, never existed

[@melvinguz11]

Bird was that dude!

[@rudygee9171]

Bird scored 40 with his left hand for fun!!

[@TonyStark-qk9sj]

It's no debate.. KD! All day!

[@CatfishJones_]

Not even close.... Bird was born a leader

[@eastwood_ib2126]

Bird definitely the greatest small forward to ever play ! Ppl better put respect on the player with the highest IQ ever .. MJ, Wilt, Bird , Magic, Kareem. In that order

[@djmcdonald9109]

What was they record before and after they drafted bird?

[@seldomsceen]

Bird and Jordan's careers only intersected very briefly for a few years. It wasn't like he got prime MJ. Bird also played on one of the greatest teams ever assembled and he was mostly great PRE Jordan era ..the game changed after MJ. The whole style of play changed after MJ... Bird was great in the White boy..pre super. Athletic NBA. That's what nobody mentions

[@ChenoodleSoup]

Gil has no issue putting kd in front of bird and steph because he isn’t a winner he doesn’t know how important that is

[@gsxawd981]

The only way to measure one’s greatness is to measure how much better was Larry Bird vs his peers? How much better is KD vs his peers? Because if you bring Larry Bird and have him develop/train in today’s era would he be the same? Would he be better? Remember in today’s game there is better medicine and training. If KD would have developed in the 80’s would he have all of his dribbling handles/skills? Would he have trained to shoot 3’s like he does now? Would he have been more dedicated to be a post player since it’s the 80’s and he’s 7ft?

[@1realdude1]

I don’t believe for 1 sec the warriors offered KD the max first before they offered it to Steph😂😂

[@uncleb7821]

Who are you compared to Gilbert Arenas? We know who he is, but who are you?

[@1realdude1]

@@uncleb7821 see that’s the problem with people on the internet. 1st you always want to know who somebody is. Second you don’t know if I’m more successful than Gil or not. Hell you may just be directly benefiting from things my compony has to offer and don’t even know it. 😂😂 But type away

[@Hargazer]

If Steph was on a contract, it makes sense they give KD the max. Plus, do you guys really think Steph would have left the Warriors when he is their franchise?

[@UnknownAssailant246]

He Cappingggg

[@actnow3]

I wish some folks would just be honest and admit that they think the NBA before 2000 shouldn't count for anything

[@GriffinClarkkcmo]

I can burn past a crackhead LOL Gil so damn funny

[@buckeyes8631]

KD and Steph are equally skilled shooters, everything else is preference. I’ll take Bird over KD because of the full package and defense

[@Davis398]

Curry told them to offer it to KD first

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

Cap lol stop it they knew who was better

[@jameshamilton2892]

Agent 0- Bird letting Black history month know I have something for you . LMAO

[@alucard3374]

One of these guys is a top 8 player of all time, the other one isn’t. Bird > Durant and it’s not really close

[@snakeplay]

Bird is top 5

[@uncleb7821]

@@snakeplay😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Hargazer]

​@@snakeplay slow down

[@lorddj9910]

⁠​⁠@@uncleb7821what’s so funny he has the an argument

[@Dtxhoodygnggaming]

Kd has more all stars more all nba more scoring titles same fmvps more points rebounds n as😢sists top 10 in scoring bro pls y’all hate Kd so much it’s sad

[@beepboop4833]

'Choked' in the 81 finals is crazy, he had two games where his shots didn't go in, but he still had second most points on his team (15.3 behind Maxwell's 17.7), most rebounds by a good margin (15.3 against Maxwell's 9.5), most assists (7 against Tiny's 5.5), most steals per game (2.3 against Parish's 1.2). The first of his two 8-point games he still had an impact with 13 rebounds, 10 assists, 5 steals and 2 blocks. In the last two games of the series he averaged 19.5 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 6.5 apg, all highest of the team.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

I bet Agent Zero Thinks paul george is also better than bird. I really think he thinks basic all stars are historically better than bird. lol

[@kaang.1659]

probably thinks Terry Rozier better than Stockton or Gary Payton because they played no cell phone 90s.. he got some kind of anti boomer logic goin on, greats are would be still great if you provide them with modern medicine,nutrition,trainings and soft ass rules favors the offense.. man we have seen guys do backflip to defend MJ and LeBron but this is the first time i've witnessed someone does the same thing for KD.

[@uncleb7821]

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