Shapton Pro Stones (Why They're So GOOD!)

[@jeffhicks8428]

I've very familiar with these. The glass stones are the highest quality SNG white ceramic alumina stones on the market imo. I know choseras have a lot of fanboys, I am one. I have the full set. They don't cut like SG does on stainless. The lowest grit Choser, the 400 is a really nice hard course stone, but the edge is much finer than youd think. It's almost like the 1k Sp. Anyway I'm ranting. I always tell folks. Get the 500 and 2k glass. That's what I tell everyone to get. If you one stone and be done, get the 1k Sp, which is really like a 800 grit stone at best. For the Sp, I tell folks for one and done get the 1k. Which is great. It's a courser fast 1k. Does it all for ya. Done. Or, get the 320 and the 2k. The 2k is the best Sp stone in the line. For me, if I had to get two for myself, it woud be 220 and 2k sp. For the glass, the 500 is a beast. 500 and 2k is all you'd ever need. Anything above the 2k in sp is a polisher. Anything baove the 4k in SG is a polisher. The SG polishers are kinda simiar to the choseras 5k and 10k, but also so are the pros.. I mean the 12k pro is like a slightly harder, slightly less friable version of the 10k chsera. for razors, idk man. I'd never take a razor to the 1k sp. I've fixed chipped razors starting on the 5k. and it takes minutes. Like razors don't need much. You need basically 2 stones to do razors. a good fine sharpener, for a razor, and a finisher. 5k sp and a 12k ss is all you'd ever need beyond strops and compound, which is what you really need for most maintenance. If you've never tried super stones, they are bar none the best polishing stones in the world. The entire line are finishing/polishing stones tho. Just be aware. Whatever grit edge you want to finish at, thats what those stones are for. The 12k is a beast. It puts mirrors on anything even coming from 400 or 500 grit stones in two minutes. Easy. And the results are amazing. Works on everything from hard high carbide stuff to cheapo soft stainless thats always a bitch to get good results on. I think I have issues.

[@barnabascsongradi9004]

You mean Super Stones like Naniwa Super Stone S1 line?

[@jeffhicks8428]

@@barnabascsongradi9004 Yes. the only difference between S1 or S2 is one is 10 mm thick and the other is 20 mm thick. Best way to get them in the US at least is from Amazon Japan, make sure the seller is Amazon Japan and the prices are unbeatable. The ship straight from Japan in Japanese packaging. I got the 20 mm 10k for like $60. They sell that stone for $110 or more in most stores here.

[@AnarchAngel1]

I've come to very similar conclusions about the Shaptons. In the lower grits I prefer the glass stones, the 500 in particular is my favorite. Usually if I'm going lower than that I just use a diamond stone. The 1k Pro is more like a 700 in my opinion, it does cut well but mine doesn't get used very often. I feel where the Pro line shines is the 1500 on up to the 12k. The 1500 and 1k are very different stones, the 1.5k is much closer to the 2k in feel and function. The 2k Pro is probably the best stone in the Pro line, it's very hard, cuts fast and leaves an edge that doesn't leave much to be desired for most tasks. I've found the 2k is capable of putting absolutely stupid sharp edges on carbon steel knives in particular, I just finished a Mora on it and it's one of the sharpest edges I've ever produced. I feel like an ideal 3 stone set for most steels would be the Glass 500(the double thick version is very nice), Pro 1.5k or 2k and I guess the Pro 5k, although I jump from the 1.5 or 2k to the 8k quite often and have no problems unless I'm dealing with a really wear resistant and/or very large bevels. The 8k is kind of a strange stone, I don't like the feedback as much as the 5k but it never fails to produce absolutely scary sharp edges. It just has a little bit of strange, "rubby" feeling to it. Just my 2 cents as someone who owns the entire Ha No Kuromaku line except for the 120 and the ridiculously expensive 30k.

[@Iheartknives1]

Couldn't have said it better myself. We share an incredibly similar experience. Thanks for taking the time to write that out. And I'd have to say the 2K is my favorite stone of the Shapton Pros. Just such a well balanced stone. For the money they are incredibly well made stones. Thanks for watching and for your input!

[@Crazyknives]

5.56SPR this helps a lot, thanks mate!!!

[@jeffhicks8428]

the 120 is one of the best in that line, along with the 2k imo. It's a fantastic low grit stone for fixing broken knives and creating new bevels from scratch on non 10v type steels. I love that thing. But I'm a sucker for good course stones. 400 chosera, 500 glass, 220 pro, and the bad ass 240 sigma are some of my favs.

[@AnarchAngel1]

@@jeffhicks8428 I usually just use a diamond plate if I want that type of aggression. What do you use to flatten it? Loose 80 grit SiC or something? I'll tell you one coarse stone that surprised me with how good it is, the King Deluxe 300. I have the 220 and 320 shapton, Glass 500, Latte 400 and probably some others I'm not thinking of. I like the King the best. It's super hard and cuts really fast. I'm telling you, you can't go wrong for the money on that one 👌

[@TimJohnson-x1o]

on the money mate. the 30k is for straight razors anyway. the 120 is an AWESOME stone. it's extremely hard and slow wearing, but it's ceramic white alumina, unlike the 220 and 320 which are SIC. so its not like those at all. it's a hogger of a course stone for sure. i LOVE it. use it all the time.

[@mikelikesknives428]

Stone selection is just as confusing as knife buying. There are so many choices. Great video. Thank you for the info!

[@Iheartknives1]

Mike Likes Knives absolutely. If you ever have questions about stones shoot me an email or DM me. I’ll answer whatever questions you have. If you want I can do a video talking about the types of different stones

[@mikelikesknives428]

@@Iheartknives1 thank you. I do love videos comparing the different stone choices for high carbide steels vs. simple steels. I don't mean to make work for you.

[@Iheartknives1]

Mike Likes Knives you and the other subscribers are the reason I’m doing videos. The whole point is to share knowledge and learn together. It’s not work 😉

[@dimmacommunication]

Honestly if you ask me a cheap chinese diamond stone ( 400 and 1000 grit ) will serve you a long time. I didn't want to pay big bucks back in the day and my old 1st diamond stone still works.

[@UnrealTournament420]

Great video! I really like the Shaptons. I use the 8000 to finish my Wusthof kitchen knives as a professional Chef. My setup atm is Atoma 400 for repair and flattening all my stones, chosera 800 and 3000 and then the shapton 🙏🏼

[@losergene7002]

How did you cut the stone?

[@Jonah_Samuel]

Thanks for the great review, it’s very helpful! I have a question that was asked in an earlier comment: how did you cut the stones? Thanks!

[@Iheartknives1]

The easiest way to cut stones is with a diamond hacksaw blade. A regular hss hacksaw blade will dull incredibly fast. Also, the lower the grit the easier they cut. The finer the grit the more difficult they are to cut. The 320 grit stone cuts much faster than the 1k did. I hope this helps and good luck! Ps take your time/don’t rush it!

[@Iheartknives1]

Stanley also makes a tungsten carbide tipped hacksaw blade that works well too. I used that one of the times and a diamond one the other time. The exact blade I used with carbide is the Stanley 15-412 carbide grit hacksaw blade 12”

[@soredivad]

Great video! Would you recommend the Glass 2000 or the Pro 2000? If price wasn't a factor. (Actually the glass is a bit cheaper)

[@Iheartknives1]

I’d say whatever is the better value. The pro is a thicker stone than the glass so it may be a better value for the money. Also it sort of depends on your other stones. What are your other stones and why do you want a 2k?

[@ja-no6fx]

I have the 320 1500 and 5k with a diamond strop after. I sharpen wood working tools and knives and shit. Works a treat

[@Iheartknives1]

@@ja-no6fx that’s a great little setup for woodworking 👍🏻

[@lidor2856]

The 5k is less friable then 2k? If il get the 5k and lap it with like a 3k grit, its possible to downgrade the grit of a stone?

[@ohasis8331]

I'm a johhny come lately to this vid but I have to concur with your comment about needing only a few stones. Unfortunately, I bought the whole range of the Pro before I had some idea of what I was doing but I only use three, maybe four on occasion. Thanks for the vid.

[@Iheartknives1]

Absolutely. I watched videos before I bought my stones and I still ended up buying almost every single one only to realize what you just said. Unfortunately there are 3-4 stones that just won’t ever get used anymore lol. It’s fun to collect them and you can always sell them for 80% of what you paid. They hold value very well.

[@TimJohnson-x1o]

thats fine. it's fun to use more than you need and it keeps them all lasting longer. but yes in reality, for a non damaged edge you need TWO just 2 abrasives. One sharpening/medium and one finishing/fine. if it's damaged or you need to change geometry then you need 1 course/grinding stone as well. Most you ever NEED is 3. That's a fact. Most industrial shops use a very similar 2 abrasive setup. Generally something like a 400 for grinding the edge and then some kind of high grit compound to "buff" and polish off the burr, etc.

[@avokevo5394]

Thanks for all the helpful info. At first I was thinking about getting the 1000/5000 2-stone Kuromaku set on Amazon, but now I’m wondering if I could get away with the 2k pro and then just strop for maintenance every couple days. What do you think about this and if so, what would be a good strop and compound setup? Cooking knives around 60 on the Rockwell scale is the application. Thanks again!

[@Iheartknives1]

You can definitely get away with that. The shapton 2k is an awesome stone. It’s on the harder side compared to the 1k as well. You could even go with the naniwa chosera 2k, which is a little more than the shapton I think it’s 75 ish, but it’s an amazing stone! As for a strop I think somewhere around 2 micron is ideal. You can go as fine as 1 micron but I think 2k stone and 4 micron or 2 micron strop will give you great results especially for kitchen knives. Side note 60 Rockwell is a perfect hardness. If you are new to sharpening get yourself an inexpensive Japanese carbon steel knife and learn on that. Get a cheap Tojiro white #2 steel knife and you’ll be able to sharpen it incredibly easily and get crazy sharp results. Vg10 type steels can be a bit more tricky but still beginner friendly.

[@avokevo5394]

@@Iheartknives1 awesome thanks! Yeah I currently have a Tojiro DP Gyuyo and love it. I’ve been hearing that denim is even better than leather for stropping too, do you find that to be true? And which brand of 2 micron compound would you recommend? Sorry for all the questions, but there’s so many options/routes to go 🙃

[@Iheartknives1]

@@avokevo5394 ok perfect if you can sharpen that DP Gyuto you’ll be fine. Also, ken Schwartz CBNor bark river CBN are the two compounds I prefer the most. Denim or canvas is good for coarser stropping I think but I always go with leather. I like kangaroo for 1-2 micron and finer and I like horse or cow leather for 2-4 micron and coarser.

[@seff2318]

Again the 500 is one of my favorite stones if not my favorite. I recommend trying the 220 SG if you’re into thinning or want a stone to replace diamond stones. It’s plenty hard and doesn’t wear as fast as people make it out to in the forums. It’s a staple in my sharpening setup since I do so many chef knives for buddies. I like that it’s aggressive but the feedback/ hand feel keep from getting away from you, a problem I used to have with my chosera 400. Great video!

[@Iheartknives1]

Seth Wright thank you! Yeah I love my shapton pro 220 but it does wear fairly quickly. I’ll have to get the glass 220 next time. The 500 for me is the perfect inbetween stone of 220 and 1000. I can go right from 500-2000 skipping 1k but it’s also fast enough that it almost gets the same amount done as the 220 just a little longer and more feedback. Thanks for your suggestion!!

[@TimJohnson-x1o]

I find 99% of the stuff you read on forums is just misleading nonsense. it's so hard to get real info on anything in knife land. full of dummies it seems.

[@cobrien2784]

Thanks for the info. If you just wanted to learn to sharpen a good quality kitchen knife for daily use, would you recommend a single stone or would multiple stones be required? Which one(s) would you choose?

[@Iheartknives1]

bobroy I would recommend getting one stone and one strop first. Something like a shapton glass 500 or pro/glass 1k and sticking with it until you get good edges on the knife. Also, use one knife that you sharpen until you get it sharp don’t move to another one. I made the mistake of dulling 2-3 knives when first learning then having to learn to sharpen and resharpen all of them. Be patient and use a sharpie to see what you’re doing. Let me know how it goes 👍🏻

[@cobrien2784]

@@Iheartknives1 noted, destroy knives one at a time haha. I will definitely use a sharpie to check my work, I love that idea. What is the purpose of the strop and is it necessary for kitchen knife sharpening?

[@Iheartknives1]

bobroy the strop helps clean the edge and give you a crisp apex. It’s not “necessary” to get a sharp knife but it is very beneficial to keeping your knives sharp. It will bring the edge of the knife back without having to sharpen every time it gets dull. I would suggest using a paring knife or a smaller knife with a straight profile to learn sharpening on. Leave the chef knife for last in my opinion 😊

[@cobrien2784]

@@Iheartknives1 Roger that, my paring knife cost like $5 so it will make a perfect test patient! Is the strop essentially just doing the same task as a knife steel or am I missing something?

[@_Dimitris]

Nice video thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. If you can recommend me 3 Shapton stones for straight razors which ones would be ? I say 3 cos I was thinking to have one for bevel setting one for sharpening and one for polishing. Obviously if you have a different recommendation you are welcome to suggest. Thanks in advance. Dimitris

[@Iheartknives1]

I think I’d go with a shapton pro 1000, shapton glass 4000 or pro 5000 and shapton pro 8000. I would also get an atoma diamond plate 400 grit that you can use to flatten the stones. I hope this helps.

[@Iheartknives1]

Ps bevel setting and sharpening are the same thing. You set the bevel until the point that the razor is sharp. It should plow through hairs off the 1000 grit stone. The reason you go up after the 1000 is to refine the edge and make the shave more comfortable.

[@_Dimitris]

@@Iheartknives1 Thank you so much for your reply I really appreciate it a lot cos I'm in the hunt for stone buy.

[@Iheartknives1]

@@_Dimitris glad to help. Stone buying is a tough process because there’s so much opinion out there. A lot of it is advertising from channels. From one shaver to another you can’t go wrong with shapton pro for the money. In my opinion the best finishing stone is a Japanese natural but until you get deeper in the water I think the 1k 5k and 8k will be perfect for you to start out. I also recommend getting a good quality strop. Your strop should cost between 50 and 100 US dollars. My first strop came from razor emporium. Their latigo and bridle I think are 80 dollars and horsehide is 90. They sell a beginner strop for 20-25 dollars and it’s a small leather strop with no canvas. If you’re on a tight budget go with that. You can’t go wrong with razor emporium

[@_Dimitris]

@@Iheartknives1 That's so true ! I do research about stones 7 months now ! I've seen tons of videos how to hone razors.knives and scissors :D Your videos despite they are for knives they did helped me a lot to understand what's going on with different kind of stones and obviously I'll try to sharp my knives as well ! I will follow your advice for the strop thank you for let me know for the importance of that as well. Cheers Dimitris

[@friedegg1936]

they cut like that cause they are really hard, and the glass ones you get a hard type and a soft type now has it was just the hard before. but gotta love all shaptons.

[@abdullahmenevse]

Sir, I would appreciate if you let me know how many whetstones you use and how many degrees you can sharpen the knife. Thank you from now. Hocam kaç giritlik biley taşı kullanıyorsunuz ve bıçağı kaç derecede bileyleyebiliyorsunuz bilgilendirirseniz sevinirim. Şimdiden teşekkür ederim.

[@abdullahmenevse]

good luck master, take it easy. eline sağlık ustam kolay gelsin

[@greekveteran2715]

Please,About How many knives do you sharpen, until the start dishing? I want to see, If the Shapton Pro last a lot or not, otherwise I'll get a Ceramic stone. Can you please provide some feedback on their longevity? Do the Glass ones last a lot longer? Thanks in advance

[@Iheartknives1]

Hey thanks for the comment. I’d say if you get any stones over 2000 grit it doesn’t matter as much. The shapton pro are about as hard as the glass stones. As for the coarser stones I would choose the shapton glass 500 over the shapton pro 320. The 1000 grit shapton pro is a medium hardness stone. It doesn’t dish fast or slow. It’s pretty average for a 1000 grit stone. They’re equal because you get more material from the pro stones but the pro stones dish quicker under 2000 grit. It’s all a trade off. If you want a hard 1000 grit stone I’d say go shapton glass or the j a henckel stone. I go between my chosera 800 and the henckel 1000 for knife sharpening and then finish with either 4000 shapton glass or sometimes just go to a strop depending on the knife. You can’t go wrong with a shapton glass 1000 or henckel 1000. Don’t listen to KZbin guys telling you to buy every grit of stones either. You need 2-3 stones and a strip or two and that’s more than enough. You can get away with one stone and one strop if you wanted to. If I were doing it all over I’d buy an atoma 400 diamond plate for chipped knives and flattening stones, shapton glass 1000 and shapton glass 4000. I hope this helps.

[@Iheartknives1]

Shorter answer: you can sharpen probably 3-4 knives before a pro stone starts to dish enough to mess up a straight razor. If it’s only knives you’re sharpening you could do more than that. I flatten more often because I sharpen my razors too.

[@greekveteran2715]

@@Iheartknives1 That was really kind of you, thanks for all the information! My favorite system is close to yours, it's 320/1000/3000, then Strop on kangaroo leather, then final stage newspaper. I want to create a new system, that will last as long as possible,because I won't have the chance to buy any stones for a long time. You've been more than helpfull, I'm really glad I found your channel! Thanks again! Keep it up!

[@Iheartknives1]

@@greekveteran2715 I’d say if you’re looking for longevity to go for 400 diamond plate and a naniwa chosera 2000 or 3000. The diamond plate will take care of flattening and also sharpen quickly. You won’t need a 320 anymore and you could probably skip the 1k. The other option is go for shapton glass 500 or chosera 400 and shapton 2000 or chosera 2000 and you wouldn’t need a third stone. You can always use sandpaper and a piece of glass to flatten the stones. Naniwa chosera stones are expensive but you get a lot of stone and they’re amazing stones. Hopefully this will help for your next system. You can’t go wrong with chosera, glass or henckel stones. The pros are good but the coarser ones dish fast.

[@buddhamack1491]

I have the 320, 1000, 2000, and 5000 and I love them. So cheap compared to Naniwa or even the Shapton glass series but they do the job well. Perhaps not the best stones out there but their comparative low cost makes up for it. I won't bother buying the 1000 grit again though, I feel it's a poor stone. Go with a Naniwa chosera 800 in place of it, it is far, far superior and is worth the extra money. The 1000 does indeed wear too fast and it has poor feedback (compared to others I have tried) and is not a true 1000 grit by comparison with other stones, but for kitchen knives it's fine.

[@Iheartknives1]

Buddha Mack I own the chosera 800 as well but for a quick edge on kitchen knives the shapton 1k is good and can do heavy removal for razors. For entry level stones the shaptons are great. For $35 you can’t get much better in my opinion. But there are way better stones for more money! Ps sorry for the late response I thought I already commented on your post. 👍🏻 great comment!

[@AnarchAngel1]

IMO they are some of the best stones out there, regardless of price. I will admit that I would be a through and through Chosera guy if the damn things just didn't crack. No matter how careful I am with them, eventually I end up with the dreaded spiderweb cracks of doom. It's a real shame because they are just about the perfect hardness for me and they offer excellent feedback and feel for their hardness. I just can't justify buying anymore of them when I pretty much know they are going to crack. It seems the higher the grit the more likely it is to happen, although I definitely have a 1k Chosera that is covered in cracks and I really babied that stone. The Shapton Pros use the same type of binder but I've never had one crack and I own almost the whole line. I don't agree that the 1k Pro is a "poor" stone, you just have to understand what it is; closer to a 700 grit. You can grab it for 35 bucks on Amazon, an excellent deal if you ask me. I really want to try the Chosera 800 but I've pretty much boycotted all Naniwa products at this point.

[@nyarshroud8778]

@@AnarchAngel1 how about Shapton 1500?

[@AnarchAngel1]

@@nyarshroud8778 The 1500 is a good stone, one of my more heavily used Shapton Pro/Ha No Kuromaku stones. It's definitely more similar to the 2k and finer stones in feel than it is to the 1k and under. It feels like a slightly rougher 2k that removes some more material. It's fine enough to finish kitchen knives and stuff on though if you're looking for some tooth. It's basically what I use I place of the Chosera 1k I was complaining about, they're of similar grit but it's got that more muted Shapton feel. They don't have "bad" feedback you just have to get used to them

[@nyarshroud8778]

@@AnarchAngel1 I’m new to sharpening. Could you explain what ‘feedback’ is? And also, I have a 320 Shapton glass coming, I was thinking of getting 3 stones originally. What would you recommend after 1500? Thanks.

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

I run all chosera stones as well as some naniwa soaking stones. I own one shapton pro the white 120 for tip repair and i absolutely hate that stone. I end up using the naniwa 150grit omurto grey brick or the naniwa 220grit aramusha pink brick instead.

[@Bushcraftandknives]

Great video! I'm saving up to buy some Shapton pro stones. My plan is to eventually have the 320, 1000, 2000 and 5000. I reckon that's all I need for my edc blades and kitchen knives. Thank you for sharing. 👍 I hope you're going to make more sharpening videos in the future. Great stuff! 👍

[@Iheartknives1]

B H I agree completely. Honestly I think you can even go without the 5000. If I could make a suggestion? Buy a shapton glass stone for the lowest grit. It’s 10-15 dollars more but worth every penny. The lower grit pro stones wear out faster than the glass stones. If I could do it again I would get shapton glass 500 and shapton pro 1500 or 2000 and I would skip the 1000. I would get the 5000 though it is worth it but it’s not necessary. Thanks for watching!

[@nyarshroud8778]

@@Iheartknives1 I took your advice and ordered a 320 grit Shapton Glass. What would you recommend after that? I was planning to buy the 1500 Shapton Pro or 2000 SP, or both. Great video and very informative.

[@andreashartmann3900]

@@Iheartknives1 Skip the 5000 buy 12000 instead

[@Iheartknives1]

@@andreashartmann3900 I own the 12k. 12k is overkill on knives in my opinion and for my use

[@AnarchAngel1]

@@nyarshroud8778 Both the 1.5k and 2k are good but you don't need both. The 2k is slightly better in my opinion but they are similar. Honestly you can finish most knives on the 2k and get excellent edges, if you want more refinement the 5k is the next logical step. The 8k produces excellent edges as well. I see someone else suggested the 12k but I can tell you as someone who owns pretty much every Shapton I barely ever touch a knife to mine. Even with super hard Japanese knives 8k is more than enough. I use my 5k far more often. Glass 320-Pro 2k-Pro 5k/8k works very well. The 2k cuts fast enough to follow the Glass 320 with typical steels and it's the best Shapton Pro IMO. I know you didn't ask for my opinion and this post is old but I share very similar opinions as iheart knives on the Shapton stones

[@theoriginalonion7545]

I’m into pocket knives and Bowie knives. I’m thinking Shapton 500, 1000, and 2000 glass stones, what do you think?

[@Iheartknives1]

Those are great picks! Can't go wrong with those 3 stones. You can even skip the 1k and just use 500 and 2k.

[@arncj18]

i wanted a set for my s. razor. But all i can find right now in my country is a 2k, 6k, 12k kuro combo. I really wanted 3,8,12k in that order

[@jaxnaturals]

Thanks for the info. Appreciate the perspective

[@TimJohnson-x1o]

if you lie the 500 for that then you should try the 320. the 320 and 500 in the glass line are interchangable. the 320 is just even faster. the 120 and 220 are also interchangable. those are true course stones and are great as well. hard. cut fast. wear slow. and yes, even the 120 can leave a great edge, but you will need a way to deal with the burr if you use that alone.

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

Just wanna say I appreciate this video

[@Iheartknives1]

Thank you!

[@StropSharp]

Too late I just purchased the 220 and 320 shaptons. I was previously going from a chocera 800 to a Naniwa pro 2000 and then progressing through my shapton 4k, 6k, 8k glass, then stropping at .5 micron...and that was getting the job done for the most part I end up with what I wanted i.e. extremely sharp push cut edges on my miyabi 5000 birch, shun and kasumi VG10s knives and this set up also proved great for my newest knife the Glestain 270 mm gyuto. Now the reason I chose the shapton 220 and 320 is for repair and re-profiling particularly my son's knives being henkel particularly his wusthof slicer see a lot of prime rib work that gets worked over on his steel quite a bit so it's developed a arch at mid point and would like to work the belly a little to bring it back to flush. I don't forsee the 220 and 320 getting used a lot but it seemed that it's better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them.

[@zenrazor659]

Grinders of knives have eliminated the 90% of the cutting edge of my razor that is also not straight noW . So can you confirm me that the razor is to throw away? I think there is no stone when has remained just 1 mm of cutting edge!

[@simonvolsmann]

Buy the 1500 insted of the 1000 its a fantastic stone and it is slow wearing, its also the best razor bevelsetter i have ever tried

[@Iheartknives1]

Simon Volsmann I own the 2k and I’ll use that if I don’t need to go to the 1k for bevel setting. But now I also own the chosera 800 and Kramer by zwilling 1k and those are both awesome bevel setters.

[@AnarchAngel1]

I agree, the 1.5k is a great stone that's often overlooked. That goes for the 2k as well. There isn't a huge difference between the two, if I had to choose one I would go with the 2k but would certainly miss the 1.5k, I use it all the time.

[@pittwm]

In your opinion, is it worth getting water stones for wicked edge system?

[@Iheartknives1]

Not really. I have them just because I had some cheap ones and made some but I would stick with diamond and/or matrix bonded diamond. If you only sharpen vg10 or 154cm type steels you can get away with water stones. If you sharpen m390 or Hap40 type steels I would recommend diamond stones.

[@pittwm]

@@Iheartknives1 thanks! I sharpen lots of folders…. S35VN, M4, K390, M390, REX45, S110V, S90V, Maxamet, 51200, HAP40… all I have now for the WE are their Diamond plus a set of their ceramic stone and strips with Diamond paste. Always wonder what a Japanese water stone can bring to the bevel finish.

[@1337flite]

The price does indeed depend on the pricing.

[@SeacryBlastsAloT]

Hey I got a question for my kitchen (german knives and japanese knives): Should I go for 1000+5000 or 2000+5000? Some people claim that the 1000 is too rough. And is there a problem when "finishing" german knives on the 5000?

[@Iheartknives1]

1000 is definitely not too coarse for German or Japanese knives. I sharpen on 500 or 800 often. I’d recommend a shapton 1k or a chosera 800 and then just a 2 or 4 micron strip and go from there. Skip the 5000 for now until you get better at sharpening (if you’re new at it).

[@redangrybird7564]

How did you cut the 320 grit stone? Tough job, I reckon 🤔

[@Iheartknives1]

Ya know it’s not as bad as you think. The 1k stone was a BEAR! The harder the stone and finer the abrasive, the more difficult it was. I think I went through 3 hacksaw blades before I bought a diamond crusted hacksaw blade. If you want to do it to your stone, start with a diamond hacksaw blade, it makes life much easier! It won’t dull in 5 minutes like the hacksaw blade does. A normal hacksaw blade, you can literally see the teeth getting ground off in real time lol.

[@redangrybird7564]

@@Iheartknives1 diamond is the way to go then. Thanks 😀👍

[@lidor2856]

Im thinking to buy the kuromaku 2000 but idk if i should maybe get a diamond stone instead like the dmt die sharp fine...

[@georgeyoung4292]

How did you cut 1" from that 320#? I want to do it too, please let me know🙏

[@Iheartknives1]

The harder the stone and finer the abrasive, the more difficult it was. I think I went through 3 hacksaw blades before I bought a diamond crusted hacksaw blade. If you want to do it to your stone, start with a diamond hacksaw blade, it makes life much easier! It won’t dull in 5 minutes like the regular hacksaw blade does. A normal hacksaw blade, you can literally see the teeth getting ground off in real time lol.

[@Iheartknives1]

Just take your time with the dismount hacksaw blade and you’ll be fine! There are some videos on stone cutting on KZbin as well. But definitely use a diamond hacksaw.

[@georgeyoung4292]

@@Iheartknives1 Thank you very very much brother🙏 I really appreciate this cause i have great full size stones but i also enjoy EP.. Thanks men🙏🤝 PS I live in the country where we dont have much for Edge Pro..

[@Iheartknives1]

@@georgeyoung4292 no problem at all. Glad to help!

[@carbidecaviar3567]

Good stuff buddy!!

[@shrimpslushi5781]

How do the nano hone stones compare to these ?

[@Iheartknives1]

Similar in some ways. The harder stones are very similar. I’d say the nano hone are better quality and are closer to the glass stones the way they perform. They have better feedback. The types of steel they cut are pretty much the same as the pros though. The system of nano hone is higher quality obviously though. You’ll get more life out of the lower grit nano hone than the lower grit shapton pro stones like 1k and under. The higher grit 5k/6k are very similar in the life of the stones though. Hope this helps!

[@CC-wolverine]

What do you think of the shapton glass vs the pro stones

[@Iheartknives1]

Cory Cothorn glass are amazing too! I just think the pro for 30-40 dollars can’t be beat. For 55-75 the glass are amazing! Chosera are incredible too but are very expensive

[@CC-wolverine]

@@Iheartknives1 thank you for your response. Ya the chosera are twice the price of shapton why I was looking at the pros or glass. Pros are more like 40 to 50 for low grits and 60 to 100 for higher grits and glass are about 10 to 20 more per stone from retailers I've found. Just trying to decide between the two lines.

[@Iheartknives1]

Cory Cothorn I’d say go for the glass for lower grits. For 2000+ I don’t think there’s much of a difference. I’d go with the glass 500 over the pro 320 all day long. The 1000 both are good. The glass is harder and finer than the pro. The 2000 pro I like a lot. The glass 4K and pro 5k are almost identical.

[@CC-wolverine]

@@Iheartknives1 thanks again for the help. I hear that some say that the 1k pro stone is more like a 800 stone might be why the 1k glass feels finer to you.

[@Iheartknives1]

Cory Cothorn yeah that’s why I said it. My videos in the newer ones I’ve said the same thing. The pro 1k is between the glass 500 and the glass 1k. The chosera 800 is finer than the pro 1k.

[@charlesw665]

What did you use to cut the section off your stone?

[@Iheartknives1]

Charles W I used a diamond crusted band saw blade. It’s like an 1/8” rope with diamonds on the outside. You can use a regular band saw for rough grit stones under 500 grit. 1k and up the stones will eat through the blade really quickly. I think in the future I’d try my wet tile saw but for the stones I cut the diamond bandsaw blade worked well.

[@bozvuela6378]

@@Iheartknives1 next time can you show the process of cutting it down

[@swiggamortis5521]

I was sent here from the future to say....BALLS!

[@Iheartknives1]

Balls!! Lmao

[@daddio159]

Why are you not flattening your stones?

[@Iheartknives1]

I flatten my stones. I have a bunch of videos on different ways I’ve flattened them and diamond stones are the easiest in my opinion.

[@江頭たかと-b8k]

220番は　相性がはっきりして　鉄系には　強いが　 ステンレス系は　滑りやすいですよね^_^

[@hiseminencetheholymacdiarmada]

I just got a 1k, 2k, 5k, 8k, and 12k in this brand for my straight razors.

[@Iheartknives1]

That’s a great set. I think you’ll be happy with them. Make sure you get a good quality strop too. Don’t settle for the 20 dollar Amazon types. Get a 50-75 dollar strop from someone reputable. They’re worth every penny! Cheap strops will ruin your edges. Good luck with the stones!!

[@shais10yearago97]

does it leave with mirror finish with 12k ? i thought about to have one.

[@dimmacommunication]

Best stones are cheap chinese diamond ones , hands down. paid 20€ for mine and it's amazing. Back in 2015 I paid 2€ for a single stone ,including shipping. Yeah, 2€ including shipping. But I still enjoy wetstones and I have them.

[@Iheartknives1]

I disagree since it depends on what you are sharpening. For razors good luck with cheap chinese stones. You’ll end up crying at the end of the shave. If you are sharpening $5 Chinese kitchen knives from Walmart yeah I could see Chinese diamond stones working well for you. Different stones are good at different things. There’s no one stone that’s best for everything, but we each have our opinions.

[@dimmacommunication]

@@Iheartknives1 Chinese knives ? I'm sharpening VG10 knives , diamond stones eat them like a knife trough butter. I had DMT and other Western brands stones ( no atoma) , guess wich were the best ? My dmt self destroyed in like 4 times I used it , my chinese is still going from 2015 . To each his own taste obviously, but facts are facts. Also my CN diamond stones eats shapton stones in no time, perfect for flattening ( but I prefer to use sandpaper , no reason to waste my stones like that )

[@Iheartknives1]

Aroma is great for 140,400 and 600. The 1200 not so much. The best diamond stones are bonded diamond in my opinion. We can agree to disagree. You can use whatever diamond stones you want. I would just rather use other stones for vg10 and finer Japanese steels.

[@Iheartknives1]

@@dimmacommunication agree that DMT are quick wearing stones. The best are atoma. The chefknivestogo diamond is good too. I prefer venev bonded diamond for knife sharpening. For flattening and serious reprofiling or chips I’ll use the atoma

[@bart9522]

Can I get away with buying and using just one of these stones for sharpning kitchen knives?

[@smievil]

1k or 1.5k probably. might take a while if they are in a really bad condition, but it should be possible to get a satisfying edge for normal home use.

[@rustyknifelover4463]

Patty Potato Pealers mentioned you. Have confidence.

[@Iheartknives1]

Rusty NewsNowNorCal you’re watching really old videos. If you watch my new ones they’re completely different. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@rustyknifelover4463]

@@Iheartknives1 I am working my way to them. It is nice to see your progression.

[@Iheartknives1]

Rusty NewsNowNorCal I appreciate you taking the time to watch them!

[@kodlcan]

1k Orange is more like a 700 grit imo. Edit: 1.000 Kuromaku, Naniwa Pro, Cerax & King Grit Comparison: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baHLnHWBerljrqs

[@abdullahmenevse]

My master, I made a request, I asked you for the sharpening stones as a gift, if you could send it, I would be very grateful, I would be grateful, thank you in advance. Üstadım bir istekte bulunmuştum sizden bileme taşlarını hediye olarak istemiştim gönderirseniz çok sevinirim minnettar olurum şimdiden teşekkür ederim

[@mrdarren1045]

You Indians are so damn cheeky. Buy your own

[@donsegundo5012]

Muy interesante pero hablas mucho!🤣😂

[@abdullahmenevse]

As a 100% disabled person, I request these stones as a gift from you, I would be very grateful if you send them as a gift. Please, I would appreciate it if you could give a positive answer, thank you in advance. Best Regards, Abdullah Menevse 🙏🙏🙏