Does it pop hair at that sharpness level?

after using this stone for 4 years , is there any curve on surface or something like that ? how often did you reshaping the surface ?

Very help full but instead of stopping and talking you either talk before or after.the stop what your doing to talk just killed the whole 3 part video..for me anyway

Have you tried using a sabitoru soaked in water and rubbing alcohol? with kangaroo

Did you find grit contamination on this stone?

220番は　相性がはっきりして　鉄系には　強いが　 ステンレス系は　滑りやすいですよね^_^

Thanks for the great review, it’s very helpful! I have a question that was asked in an earlier comment: how did you cut the stones? Thanks!

I run all chosera stones as well as some naniwa soaking stones. I own one shapton pro the white 120 for tip repair and i absolutely hate that stone. I end up using the naniwa 150grit omurto grey brick or the naniwa 220grit aramusha pink brick instead.

What do you condition the leather with?

if you lie the 500 for that then you should try the 320. the 320 and 500 in the glass line are interchangable. the 320 is just even faster. the 120 and 220 are also interchangable. those are true course stones and are great as well. hard. cut fast. wear slow. and yes, even the 120 can leave a great edge, but you will need a way to deal with the burr if you use that alone.

chosera stones come in many sizes. full size which is close to 8x3 inches by 25mm. they have travel size also. closer to a 6x2. they also come in different thickness. 25 mm and 15 mm also 30 mm for the 10k. then they also do have the ones you show, which are intended for small woodwork tools.

The 5k is less friable then 2k? If il get the 5k and lap it with like a 3k grit, its possible to downgrade the grit of a stone?

The price does indeed depend on the pricing.

Good video. I have 1k, 3k 12k vitrified diamond stones. For conditioning I use 6k El cheapo alumina stone. For sharpening I use window/glass cleaner with water. Don't go faster as your Eyes can follow your fingers, don't slip of the edges, leave the edge on the stone. If you have troubles with consistent angle Holding, make a notch in both your non-dominant thumb and Index finger. I'm right handed so I did this in the left hand

when a company selling diamond abrasives tells you the distribution ie 14 to 20 um, that's called honesty. all diamond abrasives work that way. only very expensive specialty items with ultra fine high grits have tiny distributions, some as narrow as a tenth of a micron. Any diamond based abrasives youre gonna buy is going to be a distribution like that. 14 to 20 um is just fine for an item like that, based on how hard the binding, it would leave scratches like about 800 grit JIS waterstone.

Ginsanko is a stainless steel not semi- stainless

Goddamn bro you have a whole knife sharpening warehouse at your pad from belt sanders to whetstones diamond plates ha months after this comment ima come back to the channel and you’re gunna have a cnc machine on your coffee table

I've very familiar with these. The glass stones are the highest quality SNG white ceramic alumina stones on the market imo. I know choseras have a lot of fanboys, I am one. I have the full set. They don't cut like SG does on stainless. The lowest grit Choser, the 400 is a really nice hard course stone, but the edge is much finer than youd think. It's almost like the 1k Sp. Anyway I'm ranting. I always tell folks. Get the 500 and 2k glass. That's what I tell everyone to get. If you one stone and be done, get the 1k Sp, which is really like a 800 grit stone at best. For the Sp, I tell folks for one and done get the 1k. Which is great. It's a courser fast 1k. Does it all for ya. Done. Or, get the 320 and the 2k. The 2k is the best Sp stone in the line. For me, if I had to get two for myself, it woud be 220 and 2k sp. For the glass, the 500 is a beast. 500 and 2k is all you'd ever need. Anything above the 2k in sp is a polisher. Anything baove the 4k in SG is a polisher. The SG polishers are kinda simiar to the choseras 5k and 10k, but also so are the pros.. I mean the 12k pro is like a slightly harder, slightly less friable version of the 10k chsera. for razors, idk man. I'd never take a razor to the 1k sp. I've fixed chipped razors starting on the 5k. and it takes minutes. Like razors don't need much. You need basically 2 stones to do razors. a good fine sharpener, for a razor, and a finisher. 5k sp and a 12k ss is all you'd ever need beyond strops and compound, which is what you really need for most maintenance. If you've never tried super stones, they are bar none the best polishing stones in the world. The entire line are finishing/polishing stones tho. Just be aware. Whatever grit edge you want to finish at, thats what those stones are for. The 12k is a beast. It puts mirrors on anything even coming from 400 or 500 grit stones in two minutes. Easy. And the results are amazing. Works on everything from hard high carbide stuff to cheapo soft stainless thats always a bitch to get good results on. I think I have issues.

14:11 the original version was phenyl resin which is widely available and fairly low tech, once you bake it and it cures then it becomes really hard and heat resistant. they didn’t add any other cutters when the option was available. the diamond abrasive is one karat per cubic centimeter on the 100% versions so on the dragon stone’s it is 19 karat’s per side. i can buy abrasive diamonds in any grit 25 karat for $10 and then just get the resin and diy the stone for around $20 total or i could add additional cutters. cbn isn’t expensive by itself. the dragon stones are almost $300 right now because it’s made in russia so limited availability, originally they were $80 so it’s not like there is actually $300 of production value in these stones and now there’s a hole in the market for something that we could probably all make at home once someone makes a youtube video about it. i wonder what is up with the ocb bonder

6 months? I enjoy learning new things. So I learned this. It didn't take 6 months. It took basically one afternoon to get functional results, from a baseline of "never did it before." When I say one afternoon I mean I literally sat there for hours on end and put knife to stone until progress was made. Took a couple weeks of occasional practice, 20 or 30 minutes at a time, that's the whole setup to cleanup time, to get good results consistently and built confidence. Continuing that for a couple months to get proficient to the level of being able to do basically anything anyone else could do. I mean sure, I ended up spending a few grand on knives and stones, so that I could try all different types of cutlery steels and abrasives, but that's just life. You wanna play you gotta pay. It's really not that complicated or difficult and I am not a physically talented person. I find all the mythology and weirdness around knives and sharpening to be super weird and little boy brained. What I found interesting is the total and utter lack of any reliable information about anything related to these topics online. It's kind of mind boggling. I think that comes from basically bored little boys going online and talking about things they have no clue about with a highly confident tone. Then the bullshit just goes on a ride and it becomes a cycle. Just my guess. I'm tempted to teach an elderly woman how to do it just so I can post videos of her effortlessly doing things the edc bros will claim are highly difficult. I say that in jest but also yeah. As for this stone and steel. The 500 glass is a serious cutting splash and go stone. This is a stone you have to be mindful when using because you can easily change the bevel and profile of normal stainless steels knife rather quickly. It's a great stone. I really wouldn't use it on anything other than than totally dull knives, or otherwise on steels that start to get above 3-4% vanadium where regular stones becomes an issue. ZDP is fantastic for basic knives like kitchen knives. Amazing steel. Very easy to sharpen unlike what morons online claim. Yeah it's got the abrasion resistance of 10v but it sharpens like it's vg10. That was designed that way intentionally. The downside is it's brittle... for steel. It's still steel though. I think a lot of people forget that. It's still steel.

Great video! Would you recommend the Glass 2000 or the Pro 2000? If price wasn't a factor. (Actually the glass is a bit cheaper)

Hey man I just got lucky and got the kramer set for 65 on Facebook marketplace and I knew the kramer name so grabbed them but I can't find hardly an info on them. Are they basically an alternative to shapton glass? I'm really just wondering if yours seems to wear and last similar to a Shapton? Cool vid btw

You helped a lot, I'm going to watch this a few times

do you strop after the finishing passes?

Dude I'm having so much trouble getting the pivot piece through the blade everything looks aligned perfectly flush. I have the mini rsk. I've disassembled several knives before I never had this much trouble I just can't understand why it won't go through?

Mike are you done with u tube? Just was watching some vids and was hoping you’d post occassionally

Great Video! So would you say that, for the F400 grit particularly, the old binder (not OCB) is okay? How would the binder affect the resulting edge? How is the feedback comparing the two binders on the F400 stone? I have found a good deal on the F400 with the "old" (B1/B2) binder - would I rather have the OCB binder or does it not matter that much with this grit Kind regards :)

It will rust but for 99% of users its no issue at all….if you are a diver or salt water fishermen then yeah,,,,but the huge minority….Spyderco heat treatment is best of ALL factory knives…argue all you want but its a fact…take it fro an employee

Benchmade sucks…they are woke and not even in same league on heat treatment of their steel. You can argue all you wan but do your research and it’s crystal clear.

K390 is very underrated….its very close to maxamet and a little less expensive

Is silicon corbite stone scratching a Daimond?

How did you cut the stone?

The horse from razor emporium is super quiet and fast I don’t like it. I like the middle of the road drawls. Their Black invoice bridal is more of my style

Watched while video and I still don’t know what was original angle and what new was applied.

What nobody seems to talk about, the giant pink elephant in the room, is that the soccom, until one practices and gets used to not holding their fingers over the blade when deploying, is very difficult to deploy. On the spy military, the blade sits a bit higher above the scales when closed, so there is no hassle opening it quickly and efficiently without any thought. The soccom blade is hidden more inside and even with the scales at the bottom, so you must learn to curl your fingers back onto the scale to deploy it properly without blocking it slightly with your fingers holding the blade back. In an emergency, having to use the knife for protection, I choose the military all day long. The soccom, for me, the scales/handle is way too petite, too small for a 4" tactical blade. Sure the soccom is sexy and tactical, but the military is just absolutely a smarter design in every way. Like the guy said in a different video, "The military is one of the best liner locks ever made." I agree totally.

So far In all the vids I’ve watched yours is the first one to get the torx sizes right. Others have said 9 and 5 sized torx so much it had me doubting and double checking. Anyways I have a set of these arriving tomorrow I really hope they make me fall in love with the knife. New scales for the hogue Deka magnacut made me fall in love with that knife. Thanks for the video 👊

Nice video thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. If you can recommend me 3 Shapton stones for straight razors which ones would be ? I say 3 cos I was thinking to have one for bevel setting one for sharpening and one for polishing. Obviously if you have a different recommendation you are welcome to suggest. Thanks in advance. Dimitris

Great tutorial video. Fair priced Gold dollar 66 are harder to find now in US. I would get two just to practice for honing or mod.

Useful information. Thank you. Do you know any non diamond stones that would sharpen maxamet and other high vanadium steels

Great video! I really like the Shaptons. I use the 8000 to finish my Wusthof kitchen knives as a professional Chef. My setup atm is Atoma 400 for repair and flattening all my stones, chosera 800 and 3000 and then the shapton 🙏🏼

Are Nano hone stones suited for razors with a 64 hrc (that means hard steel)? In others words are nano hones stones suited for hard steel like the Shapton Glass stones?

Solid video

This saved my bacon when I switched over to a set of scales from Allen Putman. Thanks!

Please,About How many knives do you sharpen, until the start dishing? I want to see, If the Shapton Pro last a lot or not, otherwise I'll get a Ceramic stone. Can you please provide some feedback on their longevity? Do the Glass ones last a lot longer? Thanks in advance

What stand is that you are using? Is it a hard learning currve I have 2 blades one in S45VN and one CPM CruWear

I would like to see a comparison for setting bevel on a straight razor extra full hollow with 1000 Shapton glass,1000 Chosera, 1000 Naniwa Diamond, 1000 Super VEtrified diamond stone TRIPLE B HANDMADE (450$!!!!) . I have never seen setting a bevel with the resin Diamond stones! instead yes with the dmt diamond stones! That will save a lot of time and stress espicially to beginners thats doesn't know ho to cut right the cutting edge! to produce a right bevel!!!

What you says about Kramer has no sense Kramer and Choosera ate the same stone!

Is this gold dollar 66 razor any good ? How to buy an original one on Aliexpress ? thanks.

Is this gold dollar 66 razor any good ? How to buy an original one on Aliexpress ? thanks.

Muy interesante pero hablas mucho!🤣😂