Shaquille O'Neal Discusses His Criticism Of Joel Embiid, Calls Nikola Jokic Best In NBA | 11/14/24

[@PaulJuniorMusic]

I hope we can all finally put this ‘Embiid is as good as Jokic’ nonsense to bed.

[@TomO-nx1bd]

many people put that to bed over a year ago

[@kenpatterson2948]

The question will Embiid finally play in Denver where he has ducked the Joker for years.

[@donput2246]

@@TomO-nx1bd just wait until EMBLIND score 58 (18ft) against Utah. Brotha will be in convo again. On other side Joker numbers against Utah would be like some crazy shit. 8 points 27 rebunds and 17 ass...with 28 minutes on the flor.

[@cdknowledge]

All it takes is for Embiid to go for like 50 and those same ppl will pop right back out of the woodwork... Nobody has been talking about Giannis, like AT ALL... all it took was for him to drop 59 last night and suddenly you've got ppl on twitter talkkng about "best player in the league", "better than Jokic" 😂

[@sunfilms5089]

Amen brother.

[@roki182]

Stop trying to ignore it, Jokic is the best player in the world PERIOD !

[@ndnd7614]

The only player to elevate his mediocre teammates to elite level. Look what happened to KCP and Brown after they left. Look at how Jamal Murray plays without jokic.

[@LerriPtica]

Whos ignoring it its been ages 😂

[@Funkjunk3250]

He is amazing! Arguably Steph is still the best player in the league.

[@JOKICisdGOAT]

@@Funkjunk3250stop it lol Jokić literally is the better playmaker of the 2 and he is a center and Steph a pg lol I love Steph but come on now, he also out rebounds Steph which is very obvious, scores at around the same clip and is top 10 in steals per game. Literally only dude to lead the finish the playoffs and be leading in all 3 categories. What else do yall want him to do ?

[@Letstryagain1267]

Stop yapping, Dennis Schroeder is the best player in the world you Americans think MVP in nba means best player in the world.

[@riduy211]

Props to Shaq for giving Jokic some love. Joker playing out of this world so far.

[@donput2246]

He was attacking Joker when he won 3 mvp. It was disgusting rasicst thin done by dark muricans. Did you see it? Total disrespect from him to Joker. One more time did you see it?

[@Brickwilliams]

Same guy who said sga was mvp last year, only took Jokic averaging 30-14-12 for shaq to show some respect, diddys boyfriend

[@rockysalvatore7352]

​@@Brickwilliamsbased AF. Shaqueen dkb. Mr Steph is tHe gOaT lOl

[@mycroidalmycroidal]

HE SAID JOKER IS THE BEST BIG MAN IN THE LEAGUE... JOKER IS EASILY THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE... AND SHAY HAS NOTHING ON JOKER! PATHETIC SHAQ BEING JELLY JOKER IS THE BEST BIG MAN EVER!

[@cdknowledge]

Man fk Shaq... 😂 Jokic has more skill in his left hand than Shaq in his prime had in his whole body...

[@rockysalvatore7352]

Joker isn't the best big man 1:04 he's the best player by far. No one in this era or the last is anywhere close to him in value production and gravity

[@TheGerrok]

I love the sing the praises of Joker too, but I'm not sure that you can do Tim Duncan dirty like that. He was an all time great.

[@rockysalvatore7352]

@TheGerrok nice cope lol. Muh Tim. Tim was always on great rosters w elite fo and management. He was 10x more privileged than joker. Joker clears him easily. Murray not better than either manu tony

[@chilldoc9638]

@@rockysalvatore7352great roster? Look at what Duncan won a championship with in 1999 and 2003, David Robinson was old as dirt in 2003 and retired months later, and manu wasn’t even in the league, tony was young and bad Don’t talk about what you don’t know, cant stand this myth that Duncan had some elite team no he did not

[@rockysalvatore7352]

@@chilldoc9638 lockout season and downplay admiral is gross lol. He let Timmy lead

[@NyQuilDonut]

​@@chilldoc9638It's not even the roster really, it's the coaching and the front office bringing in players that buy in to their system. The Spurs under Popovich play arguably the best team basketball that's ever been played in NBA history. Teams win championships not individuals, and the Spurs have rode that philosophy to 5 rings with the help of a great player like Timmy of course. I couldn't see a coach like Darvin Hamm for example winning 5 rings with Duncan/Parker/Ginobili as his best players. That's not a super team by any means. In Duncan's last season where he only averaged about 8 points and 7 rebounds, the Spurs won 67 games. The year after he retired they won 61 games.

[@Lethal205]

Joker is the best PLAYER* in the NBA.

[@Lethal205]

Not only big man.

[@-LAH]

I like that Shaq pointed out how he can shoot the three but it's just one part of his arsenal that he uses when it's available. Very versatile offensively.

[@cesartrujillo8813]

He is not only the best center.. he is the best player of the NBA.

[@desireco]

Embiid cried his way to MVP, that is the real issue, he is a good player no doubt about it.

[@kennethward4985]

Embiid is a 20ppg guy without the Refs giving him 20 foul shots a game.

[@cesartrujillo8813]

Agreee

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

Jokic's 6 free throws compared to Embiids 14. Now even if Embiid is "good" at flopping, Jokic is not even on the average level for a NBA player with that many possessions and average is 8-9. Anyone who regularly watches Jokic play can see unfair refs treatment. Imagine that guy with 3 MVP's didn't get MVP in his best season by far, and he filled every single statistic that was expected of him, and was by far the best player.

@@kennethward4985 in post season. emidd in 4 games had more free throws than the next guy in 9 game

[@nugz_cards]

Joker is King!

[@Adam-ub4jt]

I love Shaq, but when he picked Embiid over Jokic for mvp, and a lot of other "analysts" did as well it showed a bit of bias, I had a good laugh as did most people. Jokic is the most skilled big man, as far as all around game. Jokic has also been the best nba player for the last 5 years, and it shows clearly, and it's not even as close as people try and make it out to be. Used to really like Embiid, but he's not nearly as efficient, constantly hurt, and not a good mid-range or outside scorer or facilitator like Jokic is. It was a pity mvp that Embiid won, and it was terribly unfortunate for the nba. Also feel like Shaq tends to be biased towards players that could upset his legacy, but Shaq played entirely different than Jokic, so I don't understand why he does that. It's okay to admit that Jokic has a broader skill set than Shaq did and pretty much every other nba forward/center.

[@SV-bx5lr]

I think Giannis is also very good.

[@Jonesmalone562]

If they gave Nikola the same calls that they gave Joel, joker would average about 50 a game.

[@ridisulo2978]

Shaq still doing Jokic a disservice- probably because he's white- but anyways; Jokic is the best PLAYER in the league, not just big man, period. And he's been such every single year for the past 5 years if we're being honest. Despite all the talent in the league that we keep hearing about. He's better. Give the man his credit, he's going to finish higher than Shaq on all time list and i think that's not sitting well with Shaq because even tho he won't admit it... he knows it

[@AwesomeCrabman]

I think shaq is a good guy but still too stubborn and too proud

[@blabla-fw9ix]

He wont because he can't win nearly as many rings with his team compared to Shaq , I mean Shaq had Kobe who does Jokic have Jamal lol . There is only so much 1 man can do .

[@ridisulo2978]

@@AwesomeCrabman i agree completely

[@ridisulo2978]

@@blabla-fw9ix i wanted to include that caveat about rings because ultimately they do matter but considering the context of who Shaq had while getting all 4 of those and who Jokic has had thus far i mean yeah, all the more credit to Jokic and his dominance/contribution to winning. If he never wins again i can see people placing Shaq over him but... few would actually pick Shaq over Jokic when it's all said in done if the pieces you add around them are the same/comparable

[@MrE_]

5 years? You're going a bit overboard with that one. Giannis was clearly the best 2020-2021 and arguably the best in 2022.

[@RudieObias]

Shaq is a multi-millionaire. I'm sure he could afford a good microphone for interviews 🤣

[@jerrysmooth24]

you have to assume he has high ceilings

[@tomodomo1000]

@@jerrysmooth24 or it was a basement.

[@zerocal76]

His friends are not nerdy enough to know about that stuff. Everyone needs at least 1 tech nerd friend to tell you whats up 😁

[@roljavi]

It's not about microphone, but room reverb. You have flat walls and the sound is bouncing. He should get mic close to his mouth so that the mic doesn't pick up reverb or to have acoustic treatment (black panels which people saw people (youtubers) use to acoustically treat the room, so that there's no room reverb which are also used in recording studios).

[@Mostracistmanalive33]

His microphone seems fine in this interview though? He just speaks kinda soft but his voice is super deep which kinda makes it sound odd but it sounds fine around the 1:00 mark when he raises his voice.

[@willm5814]

Joker is by far the best player I’ve ever seen and I lived watching MJ back in the day - if Joker had Scottie Pippen it would be over 😂

[@MrMuffinHix]

I'm sure Jokic is constantly thinking about Shaq saying Shai should have won the MVP last season 🙄😂

[@Dante1120]

It is such a nonsense to compare Jokic to Runbid. Runbid will be remembered as crying/whining baby after his retirement

[@bjensen]

Shaq taking credit for Jokics dominance 🙃🙃🙃

[@Primitive_Code]

Jokic is the best player in the league, then Luka is 2nd.

[@oldmansportsog2514]

Deion sanders called Embiid out to his face and it didnt change anything he ducked the game in denver

[@katherinehall530]

He dropped 50 on him what are you talking about.

[@LukasP143]

Embiid aint like that

[@LukasP143]

Dont get me wrong Embiid is highly skilled but hes soft..

[@ECI5858]

Yeah he only plays against den when in philly. Last played in denver back in 2019.

[@Ablertone]

What a shame we are. After what Joker showed us, we're really still put embiid at the same level of him. We really do not deserve such human and atletic greatness

[@DocYAYAYA]

76ers coming out and saying Embiid not playing back to back if an absolute embarrassment to the fans

[@w8stral]

? If he is injured, then yes, this is smart. Embid has the big man problem: Too tall for normal human bodies, same goes for Chet and I'll bet Wemby it will happen too as well. We call the big men greats greats because they are healthy by and large. If Wemby is going to have a long career he is going to have to learn to STOP jumping so much, or more precisely, stop trying to jump out of the building on every play.

[@DocYAYAYA]

@@w8stral he got the soft man problem. Its like any sport you are not going to go into every game 100% but how much do you want to win. Hes paid a lot of money and to come out and say he cant play back to back games is a joke to all the fans. Players have way more at their disposal these days when it comes to recovery compared to 20 years ago. Just look at LeBron, he puts millions of his own money into recovery even at 40 years old.

[@w8stral]

@@DocYAYAYA Sigh: Please help the rest of humanity here: Learn basic human physiology before embarrassing yourself further. And $$$ has nothing to do with recovery, let alone healing. It is genetics. Why some people can climb Mt. Everest without oxygen even though they smoke a pack of cigarettes' a day when world class/tier marathon runners are literally passing out 3000m below mr cigarettes. Tissue regeneration rates are vastly different between humans, just as some peoples hair grows at 10X greater speed than other humans.

[@Space_Ache]

Jokic is so much better than even the second best player the only time I recall this happening in the past was Kobe in his peak and MJ. Wild what he is doing.

[@jacktheleper4468]

Whats spooky is Jokic is top 10 in defense. Top 10 for stls/blks. Top 3 in deflections and top 10 in a few of the advanced analytics for defense

[@stakknation123]

They won't hardly talk about that tho.

[@ziginaigra]

i dont think that defense would help him much vs any good center

[@coloradochris3952]

Someone please tell him he can't win 3 more rings since all he does is prove people wrong

[@WrongButtonWB]

Now go check his defensive box +- and see where he stacks, for the last 4 or 5 years. You'd be surprised how many idiots on yt, media and fans alike, are clueless.

[@paintb0x]

​@@ziginaigrawhat are you talking about? He is probably the heaviest player in the league and has great instincts and presence in the paint. Centers are no problem for him. If anything it's the quick guards or the rim protection against cutters that is bothering him

[@martinvidenovic5767]

Shaq again disrespected Jokic and despite trying to look friendly, he obviously has something against Jokic. If Embid was healthy, he would be better, but he is not, and Zion, if he was healthy, he would be better than Embid, and the story that he is healthy would be the greatest nonsense and everyone can see it. Jokic doesn't have to prove himself to anyone, not even to Shaq, his results speak for themselves and haters will always hate even without reason. The most important thing is that Jokica doesn't really care what the imaginary stars think, he just plays basketball, enjoys it and is currently the best in the world, and that obviously bothers some people. Does Shaq really think that SGA should have been the MVP, it shouldn't be the topic of this story, but maybe the question for Shaq is what is his level of basketball knowledge, I mean, apart from the fact that he is a freak of nature, what are his real abilities and skills in basketball? Otherwise I think Shak is a good character.

[@Pacificocean-z4o]

🃏 is better even if embiid is healthy,simply,joker basketball is paraise for eyes.

[@chrisbrooks6756]

I love the arrogance of Shaq, that he thinks Jokic might care what he says or thinks, or he somehow inspires or angers him, with his opinion. Delusional.

[@ashmarca]

"Best big man in the league" is how petty Shaq describes the best individual and team performance we've seen in the history of basketball.

[@Tyler-h9q]

Yup

[@ziginaigra]

u forgot to add in cupcake era without defense and centers😂

[@theFRIS]

best in history?? lol...these jokic riders are the funniest people

[@ziginaigra]

@@theFRIS center with 1 ring and with career avg of 22pt and 11 reb is goat😂

[@theFRIS]

@@ziginaigra that definitely beats getting 11 rings

[@gravydoors]

I still remember Shaq for disrepecting Jokic in their MVP interview insisting SGA should have won

[@greenonionsalad]

Lol Shaq's ego really telling him Jokic is playing well because he said he wasn't MVP. It's not about you bro 😆

[@nebojsamihajlovic9066]

Smešno je upoređivati bilo koga sa Jokić em. On je 20 nivoa iznad svih ikada, br. 2 je MJ.

[@aurelianobuendia5360]

Ne lupaj molim te

[@NerdFiction]

Shaq has been the biggest thing that has turned me off from NBA media. Dude is incredibly biased and clearly jealous of how amazing a big man can be and I feel like he holds that against Jokic and it's a huge turn off. Shaq is the Skip Bayless of the NBA media. He will never admit he was wrong or biased and that says everything about him. My wish is for Shaq, to never come back. (to NBA commentary)

[@ziginaigra]

what ? he and barkley are best thing on media

[@gringochucha]

Shaq is entertaining as long as you don’t take him too seriously 😂

[@cesartrujillo8813]

😂😂😂😂 SHAQ SAYS NOW HE LIKES THE WAY JOKER IS PLAYING???? 😂😂😂NOW?? His been doing this the past 4 years 😂😂😂😂😂 SHAQ YOUR CRAZY MAN

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

He was blind folder when Jokic had the best playoff run in history.

worst thing about Jokic are his teammates who misses the easy open shots, the ones that must go in. imagine if those bums scores whenever they get a good pass when they open. Jokic has easily be average 20+ assist per game

[@kevinlakeman5043]

Stay tuned for week when Petty Pendergrass flip flops back to Embiid and selling Jokic short again.

[@mycroidalmycroidal]

HE SAID JOKER IS THE BEST BIG MAN IN THE LEAGUE... JOKER IS EASILY THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE... AND SHAY HAS NOTHING ON JOKER! PATHETIC SHAQ BEING JELLY JOKER IS THE BEST BIG MAN EVER!!!

[@AwesomeCrabman]

INDEED

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

He is mad that there is another player to push him down on the list.

[@rockysalvatore7352]

@@Zemlja_je_ravna but he loves Steph lol

[@KyFiGz]

Embiid the real mvp. Most vulnerable player. Retire already

[@Max-oi6op]

Jokic has been the best player for 5 years this is hilarious.

[@bojantrkulja4149]

Not the best BIG Men but Best player all around

[@JigsawBell]

Embiid is not that good anymore. He is always injured. Joel’s past value is exaggerated.

[@harderway8568]

Jokic - never dunks and rarely jumps, so he wouldn't have to put all the pressure on his knees and ankles, because it's a really big body. Passes the ball whenever he can, so he wouldn't have to wrestle and get beaten by other big men. Rests on defense, runs the floor when he needs but mostly throw the ball and plays his own pace. He's taking care of his body, that's why he's available pretty much every night. It's impossible to play 80+ games as a big man, dunk on people, be physical and stay healthy.

[@sguerilla6142]

'' Jokic - never dunks and rarely jumps'' In the first 10 games, Jokic is first in rebounds. I understand what you want to say, but you said/wrote it wrong. Jokic doesn't jump high and dunk every time he has the chance because he's not interested in that type of game. And the fact that there are no injuries is thanks to everything that is written here + genetics.

[@harderway8568]

@@sguerilla6142 He barely jumps when rebounding, go check.

[@douglasmennella4525]

For a big guy Shaq can backpedal pretty fast…

[@sandybear61]

Don’t forget, though, Jokic most likely won’t want a long career. But he will be in Denver to the end. ❤️

[@Sinreher]

Oh Shaq, bless your heart. Jokic never gave a s***t about your stupid comments. The rest of the team is struggling, so he's stepping up even more to keep them afloat.

[@deejaydiabolic]

Embiid gets paid $58 million a year to play in less than 60% of the season...and he still continues to duck that Jokic smoke in Denver. Hope he enjoyed his DEI MVP award cause it's not happening again.

[@zpetar]

0:55 This reaction is all you need to know about JOKER!!! Joker is balling...

[@MichaelPainter-v7w]

Give Joker prime Kobe and prime Wade. Only allstar he’s ever played with is not Allstar level anymore Westbrook for 10 games.

[@outlander234]

11/14/24 Damn Jokic with 24 assists!

[@daldladla]

National media is finally waking up. Jokic should have 4 MVPs in a row right now going for his 5th. Shaq helped carry water to make sure that didn't happen.

[@brutallyhonest3574]

It's ultimately Regret. Shaq doesn't want these other superstar caliber players to make the mistakes he's made. He's downplayed a lot of his own issues in the past like his inability to consistently shoot free throws or not always giving his all during games. He's missed a number of important accolades because of this. Shaq is very critical at times but he's doing it because he don't want these guys to look back at kick themselves for not doing enough to achieve what they set out to do.

[@RobertBalto]

People need to stop being so sensitive over Shaq saying Jokic is the best big man in basketball. He's not saying he ISN'T the best player, he's saying "best big man" because the conversation is ABOUT big men. Just like I'd say "I think Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in football" when talk in the context of comparing him with other quarterbacks. I also think he's the best player.

[@SGL037]

Shaq hates himself for giving props to Joker just like most of the media does other than Sir Charles. The hate on Joker is real and these guys have learned that hating on him is nonsense at this point so props to at least admit it after 3 MVPs lol

[@aj7aj]

Speak clearly!

[@coloradochris3952]

For a French guy he actually pretty tuff lol

[@beedebawng2556]

This public witch hunt against Embiid really has to stop. EVERYBODY saw this man play through injury (knee and bell's palsy) and clearly he's still injured playing with a knee brace on. Shaq is really a dishonorable person. I'm not sure why he has this agenda against Embiid.

[@coloradochris3952]

That big-nosed goofball calling Joker the worst MVP ever was a catalyst in creating the worst MVP ever.

[@gueswhosthis]

Joker: "Huh?"

[@srbsrb8739]

Nobody says to fembid that jokic deserve mvp over him when he got one. Usa just needed center of olympis and gave him mvp.

[@bradm4493]

Shaq described Giannis 😂

[@gamemusicmeltingpot2192]

shaq is a chameleon Last season he was saying SGA should get MVP over jokic LOL

[@NUFCOfficial]

Can't criticize certain players anymore, Embiid always ducks that hard games and assaulted a reporter for criticism. That's why the dude will never win a championship.

[@rockysalvatore7352]

Started w Steph. No one says anything about him. Just LeBron. I remember when fans didn't like either superteams merchants

[@dunny_420]

that reporter shoulda caught hands not just a push

[@diegotejada55]

I’m not one to defend Embiid, as he’s definitely not good with criticism, but that reporter did way more than criticize and I can’t blame Embiid for what he did

[@NUFCOfficial]

@@diegotejada55 Sure but it was still violence

[@diegotejada55]

@@NUFCOfficial I’m not defending him in court or anything, as far as we know that was assault for sure. But again, as far as we know, it wasn’t as you put it “because of criticism”, but rather because of saying that Joel’s dead little brother would be ashamed of him and his little kid should be too, because of him not playing a game…………… Obviously none of that should have been brought to basketball discussions in the first place, and I’m not going to criticize Embiid as a player because of it either

[@tiagopacheco4187]

Ppl in shock that Jokic aint first but have u seen AD's Defense? Yeah i wouldnt be mad to see him 1st but 2nd would also be accepted, 3rd i agree its a joke

[@johnsonjeancharles3370]

Did u see the last game he play against wimby

[@akirosakuragi9279]

Too little too late. I ain't forget he said Jokic didn't deserve his MVP THIS year. Old man needs to retire

[@milshubra]

Joel would beat Nikola 1 on 1, but basketball is a collective game played 5 on 5. Also Joels body fram and his movement are not a good fit, so he has injury chronic injury issues. A basketball fan from Serbia🇷🇸 🖖🏽

[@Wishlake]

Hey, I know what's wrong with Embiid - he's a megalomaniac!

[@jeffg6900]

Joker makes players around him better! One of the best skills in BBall. Russell is a pri.e example

[@cowboysradic7816]

Jokic MVP4 crazy the best

[@adn267]

Wemby is 54% from 3 last four games. I’m tired of Shaq’s takes. Jokic’s game is exactly why Unc’s perspective is cooked. He’ll praise Jokic then ride KAT til the end of time. KAT won the 3pt contest bro. Get your old azz out of here 🙄

[@Pacificocean-z4o]

Embiid is good,but 🃏 is on the other's level.

[@gnutscha]

Shaq coping hard here

[@flyingguru517]

Jokic is going to enter in history as best european ever in nba, embid is just another random lazy guy

[@CyberOrganic]

Shaq does know much about basketball. He only knows how to play it. This guy was hating on Jokic MVP that went to crying Embiid.

[@marsbalaba9373]

why is this an argument? Embid who? 🤣

[@joachimmahoudeaux8619]

Jokic is the best… and Wemby will soon be, face it Shaq, stop being that ignorant. This is evolution.

[@samueljlarson]

its not criticism if its true!!

[@darvinmijatovic2015]

Joker 🐐

[@Lewis1989ish]

SHAQ LAST YEAR DISRESPECTED JOKER 🃏 AND JOKER COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE MVP so don’t try to act like you motivated the JOker 🃏

[@WrongButtonWB]

Shaq salty just cause Jok better than him.

[@dovla5989]

Jooookeeeer 💪

[@leonardruggiero2457]

Shaq’s a get of my lawn old guy now, he thinks these players are scanning the internet to what old retired players are saying about them. These stars are so locked in and could care less about u Shaq, no one on this earth is as petty as you.

[@wojomojo]

Because Embiid is WEAK, mentally. Always has been. Not so different than his ex-teammate, Ben Simmons. W-E-A-K in the Mind.

[@johnwilson6707]

shaq is a fool all he is interesting is the dollars MR SENSITIVE CHUCK was right

[@angrydonny72]

Embiid is only better than Jokic, at flopping....

[@peteperic5822]

Shaqs a great man

[@srbin1264]

🃏5MVP

[@teemack202]

IF HE doesnt play he will do worse in the playoffs. he will also be walking on eggshells. THIS IS A HORRIBLE FRANCHISE! TRust the process my a**. THe city has robbed the fans. Embiid is a 70 million a year overplayed whining girl and will never win anything. He cant even play a back to back . Talk about setting a good example for the kids hahah. DIVA and DISGRACEFUL.

[@booJay]

Joker >>> Shaq

[@FirstnameLastname-cp9lr]

Embid a bum!

[@amonone399]

Joel is an MVP, and should have 2 scoring titles, so It's stupid to say he has not lived up to his potential. Joel is the most skilled player when healthy in the entire NBA. Last season 34,10 and 6 assist. Joel problem is durability. Joel dropped 70 on Victor Wembanyama and a 50 piece on Jokic with the game wining shot in his face. The only reason why I will take Joker over Joel is Durability.

[@Grandpaconway]

lol

[@amonone399]

@@Grandpaconway LOL!

[@aljr7364]

You can have so much skill but if your not there that skill is for nothing

[@amonone399]

@@aljr7364 I agree, that's why I said I would take Jokic over Joel because of Durability only.

[@Grandpaconway]

@@amonone399 Keep kidding yourself - you'll never see 100% Joel vs 100% Jokic - its done - its over . Joel is done

[@katherinehall530]

If you are hurt its nothing you can do about that. The only reason I will take jokic over joel is health. Joel is the most skilled big man since Hakim the dream.

[@alexkirschner9672]

Both healthy im still taking Jokic all day, we are now seeing Jokics peak (until he gets even better next year somehow) its insane what Jokic is doing right now

[@Abraxxis]

You don't know ball

[@JJdeluxe2000]

Time for an eye exam.. Hakeem is 100X embiid, embiid F’ing sucks compared to joker

[@SoloPerICommenti]

Jokic is way more skilled than both Hakeem and Joel

[@aubameaubame4227]

Jokic way better than the flop machine embiid

[@nero8484]

Joker NO DOUBT!🫡