Shareboxx - Offline Wifi Filesharing (RIP PirateBox)

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

Man, the USB stick in the wall brings back memories of wardriving and all sorts of early 00s grey hat stuff.

thanks for outing yourself, reporting you to the authorities

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

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[@bytesabre]

Piratebox had promise. I was able to make one when it was running, but my other half decided to steal the usb stick out of the router and somehow broke it permanently, and I didn’t make another. Good to see someone keeping the idea alive

[@Buy-n-large]

I've been waiting for this to happen again.. long live piratebox

[@JustAddFlux]

Latest update adds chat!

[@Jake-un2nw]

same here

[@hamburgers140]

This reminds me a bit of the old dialup BBS days. It was such a different feel from the global internet, each little BBS being like its own island with its own culture, file bases, message boards, private messaging, (and of course the games!). Esoteric, occult, pirate and hacking text files transmitting person to person, BBS to BBS. You'd never know quite where the BBS was located but that it was in your local town since it shared your phone area code. It was wild, underground, and exciting.

[@ArtemisKitty]

Ahhh that brings back memories. I used to host one of the main nodes of the official IBM "Bits of Blue" BBS system at home. We had multiple phone lines run just to manage those, and a bank of external 3Com modems running 24/7, haha! It was so fun! I miss the good'ol ripscrip/zshell days sometimes. Edit: Oh! Except you DIDN'T know where we were by area code - we had 800 #s assigned to all the data lines specifically to make this more difficult, for privacy reasons. (Some of the data on this BBS was privileged corporate information only accessible to certain users with permission - we're talking source code and development discussions on OS/2 while it was under development, so we couldn't risk someone coming and snagging the physical hard drives by locating our house...)

[@svenmichelsde]

I would recommend to change the overwrite protection slightly to not just append the number at the end, but before the extension. That way it will be easier to deal with the data on the client browser for example. Keep going, its always nice to have options :)

[@JustAddFlux]

Good idea!

[@JustAddFlux]

Aaaand implemented!

[@RedMageGaming]

I miss Pirate box, such a great project, Hope this gets some good attention and people jump on to help flesh it out and expand it.

[@heckseven]

this is so rad! i used piratebox for a few years and had a blast. i did some extensive customization, but at some point i forgot the login so that was that. i am def going to take this for a spin later. it looks MUCH simpler to modify and work with. nice work!

[@ariochakuma]

thank you that's awesome, the pirate box live again *_*

[@forsakenrider]

super cool! I still have an old Piratebox! Would be rad to have the chat function too!

[@JustAddFlux]

Chat is already implemented, check github!

[@jhlewis10]

Nice! had a Piratebox for years. Also in Indiana. Just saw a video on Gridbase Pocket for $250 and I thought really? Where is my old Piratebox. Looking forward to checking this out.

[@taylorhay]

Very cool - thanks for sharing, and resurrecting an awesome concept!

[@silence___]

Would it be possible to links them together like meshtastic? It would be pretty cool though probably impractical.

[@GregChabala]

That rat exhibit is suspicious on its own, talking about Cold War operations, yet demonstrating hiding a USB thumbdrive inside. What museum would do that?

[@JustAddFlux]

Yeah that seems a bit anachronistic for sure ;) "Put something in the rat that agents in the 60s would've used" -"Like what?" "I dunno, money, a USB stick or something..."

[@musiqtee]

@@JustAddFlux A “USB stick” in 1962 would be the size of a large fridge - needing a lot of power just to support a tiny (K-bits) core based memory logic. Managing to stuff that into a rat carcass would require _some_ rat…😅

[@Iron_Condorr]

​@musiqtee, or would it? going off the theory that the government is 20years ahead of our latest technology, just a theory/conspiracy?

[@Rushil69420]

Microdots guys. We’ve long had many ways of storing lots of sensitive information on very, very small objects. The USB stick is a more immediately recognizable way of relating that idea to a generation that might have trouble identifying a floppy disk.

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

I miss the piratebox

[@dileepvr]

You need to add public key management for unique ID when adding chat. It could also be used to sign file uploads.

[@Kurvenjunkie1]

❤ well done 😊

[@romein138]

can you make a premade image for pi with ssh enabled or allow for changing primary settings upon first landing of the webui?

[@pinaz993]

You might consider an opt-in config option for files that expire. I wrote an issue about it on the GH.

[@masterjust1]

I used to run a piratebox in my old phone. I hope i can do it again!

[@AdmV0rl0n]

Always found Piratebox somewhat buggy, and insecure. Part of that was its nature. I still run them on several Pi's. The core idea is nice, so its good someone took interest in reviving something similar.

[@iblackfeathers]

in the code presentation you showed configurations for signed ssl certs but the demo didn’t have a padlock on the browser. what else needs to be done to get that to work?

[@salpertia]

Why would you need SSL?

[@ventusprime]

I have pirate box , ot works at home from solar panel ,

[@Sarge198]

I still have my Piratebox, the UPnP server and image board are two of its best features.

[@Kurvenjunkie1]

Ha, the imageboard was a hard route to make that available. Glad you like it ❤

[@fernwood]

I wonder if something like this could be ported to an esp32 (with sd card).

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

Too slow, waaaaaaay too slow. But otherwise trivial. And by that I mean copy together a few samples from the arduino IDE trivial.

[@darekmistrz4364]

I understand exchanging linux isos. But how do you prevent from uploading something criminally offensive on box like this? Also how would you advertise it to any device? Also how does it work on modern smartphones which notoriously hate connecting to any local network devices if WIFI doesn't have internet access (thus they fallback to cellular based internet)

[@AAjax]

In terms of legality, I really don't see why common carrier protections don't apply here. If you start investigating and moderating, you lose common carrier status. Practically speaking though, I think the usb drop has the benefit of not avoiding legal action to the original provider of the hosting - it will probably be a while before we have cheap wifi serving tech that can similarly be deployed in the wild with an indefinite power source. In terms of morality, some people are going to abuse anything used for enhancing anonymity or privacy, and they will find another venue if they don't have this one. If this argument doesn't land with you, you're not part of the target audience. The days of early Internet weren't so carefully corporately curated and policed as today, and yet our mature internet is chock full of "criminally offensive" things. Some of us think the early days without the spying and curation were better in a lot of ways. On the technical problem, the user has to drop their data connection if they're using a modern corpo device. This will make the device limited to those in the know, which might be for the best anyway.

[@ventusprime]

thank for the update i will create this 2

[@TheKuptis]

17:37 Thanks to your video I had to check out Clockwork. This looks like a neat little gadget. Have you done or will you do a video about it?

[@Sarge198]

Good luck getting one, I ordered a uconsole almost a year ago, still waiting...

[@ToumalRakesh]

I have made a video, as a matter of fact ;) Also there's some sellers on aliexpress but I *think* that's someone just copying the design and not the original team.

[@SB-qm5wg]

This is really cool.

[@d3fgihop]

Hey! Do you have any more documentation for installing? I'm trying to get this onto a rPi 3 b+ and having some trouble.

[@StaerkungFuerMeineBrueder]

Hello there, regarding what is said at 15:45, that a USB stick is used for an external Wi-Fi adapter, may I ask which version of Raspberry Pi you're using? (please only tell me here if you can safely tell here publicly online) Are you using a version that does not natively has built-in Wi-Fi support or does your Rasperry Pi support Wi-Fi natively and you just chose to use a USB-stick for an external Wi-Fi adapter? Also, I'm not sure if you're the right guy to ask, but I'm being courageous right now and just ask - assuming I have a version of the Raspberry Pi that has built-in Wi-Fi capability natively, but I would like disable it hardware-wise, so that I can be hundred-percent sure that no virus turns on the Wi-Fi on the software-side without me wanting it to do so a) do you know if the Wi-Fi of the Raspberry Pi could somehow be disabled on the hardware side as I just described while still keeping the rest of the Raspberry Pi functional? and b) do you know how it could be done? Looking forward to your reply, Simon PS: If anyone else who has knowledge about those issues a) and/or b) would like to reply to these questions, I'd also appreciate it. Have a great day everyone!

[@AndySlug]

This has a huge potential. I would implement a map wensite and use passwords for shareboxes that would be on the site. (Simmilar to geoCach hints)

[@TheKonstl95]

tolles video, gibts es noch pirate oder shareboxen in wien die offen sind?

[@JustAddFlux]

Gute Frage, die map ist ja tot und selbst die map von den USB Deaddrops wurde gewiped...

[@Lokexzx3]

Any posibility to run this on an openWRT Router?

[@jeremiahbullfrog9288]

In the event of an unfortunate incident, it's likely they will jam the WIFI bands as a first step. Can there be a wired alternative mode for SHTFproofing?

[@JustAddFlux]

Depends on your definition of SHTF. Also, jamming 2.4 and 5GHz is a high energy, low range affair. A jammer would have to be next to your house. Also, who is "they"? Nuclear EMP? Short time affair only. "The Government"? I hate to break it to you, but your government doesn't care about your wifi ;) If you wanna use a cable, go ahead. Shareboxx doesn't care about the PHY.

[@jeremiahbullfrog9288]

@@JustAddFlux Good to know thx

[@JacksWailerTV]

i hope they make no stress about the SAVED Movie.... maybe you should remove THAT short part...

[@davel202]

Very nice

[@JustAddFlux]

Thanks!

[@lorenzoantei1542]

How can I edit the hosted page?

[@JustAddFlux]

In src/app.rs

[@nomercyriding]

All the nay-sayers in these comments do not pass the hack the planet vibe check

[@Nuffle]

Techno-weenies... ;D

[@JustAddFlux]

There's legitimate concerns. However there is one vibe check that should scare off most non-technical users: All relevant browsers show huge warning pages when connecting to a plaintext webserver, or https with self-signed certificate.

[@pinaz993]

@@JustAddFlux In other words, if you don't know what you're doing, you don't belong here. Proceed at your own risk.

[@FleetAd]

The only thing I wish for out of this is for a password protected folder, for reasons.

[@iamalittler]

Yeah, but what’s this for?

[@JustAddFlux]

I dunno. What is geocaching for? Fun, I guess?

[@nojusticeanywhere]

I know virtually nothing, but would like to do something like this for an offline pdf server. Would there be a way to make this a read-only archive?

[@tntflo_V2]

Can we get a download function

[@JustAddFlux]

I don't understand, there is a download function?

[@tntflo_V2]

@@JustAddFlux okay i was too stupid

[@sgt.grambo7364]

I'm ashamed to admit that's way over my head. Can I buy one from you?

[@xTHETRINCHOx]

Maybe my pocketchip can PIRATE streets again!

[@ff-mu6cc]

cool

[@bobbastian760]

The computer equivalent of a glory hole. Always use protection....

[@raleighcunningham2538]

*hacker music*

[@barbarbar338]

So you basicly made a file uploading server that you did not publicly exposed to the internet

[@JustAddFlux]

That is technically correct, in the same way that geocaching is just a box with trinkets, hidden in a bush. For me this was a nice learning experience about Leptos.

[@helidrones]

So basically a web server with some scripts for uploading an downloading files.

[@JustAddFlux]

And chat. As a captive portal. Yep.

[@helidrones]

@@JustAddFlux I guess I would make it with FrankenPHP … or with Assembly language, if I am really bored. Have not touched low-level languages languages for almost three decades.

[@Kurvenjunkie1]

Yep. The difference is, that upload will go to the storage directly. On piratebox we used droopy for that. When I tried to switch over to lighttpd only, the way files were uploaded was always an issue. Uploads are stored somewhere and then streamed toward the upload (php/perl/python) script… on low end devices like RPi1 or the tiny openwrt , the performance was non existent.. slow as hell and you were able to DoS easily.

[@sertenejoacustic]

No music please! Soooo distracting

[@BurkenProductions]

No not rust. Use php like normal ppl

[@TheKuptis]

Please get rid of the music while you're talking and explaining. It gets too distracting.

[@sleyeborgrobot6843]

I used to frequent a bigger blacker one in my youth.