Shark Depopulating Boards

[@wghead]

Thanks so much for making this video. I really appreciated the explanations of things (with the close-ups!) along with how to get them off the board. Great teaching! And oh yeah - just loved the thumbnail again!

[@sharkscrapper]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Shammyhaygar]

Hi Shark, Thanks for the education on how to scrap boards. I have been curious for a while. Learned about your channel from Ben. You guys are great!

[@sharkscrapper]

Welcome aboard! I've been a student of Ben's for a long, long time. It was Ben who motivated me to start this channel. If you're into ewaste and boards I have two playlists that I think you'll find interesting. One is all about ewaste. The other, a more recent one, is my Wednesdays Bite - where I scrap specific computers each week. Hope you enjoy them.

[@scrapbongo]

Very nice and detailed walk-through of how you get the shiny bits off the boards. /thumbs up Shark

[@sharkscrapper]

Thank you 🤗

[@ThunderboltWisdom]

Good advice. Good video. Thanx from Scotland 🤓👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@sharkscrapper]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mcmetal632]

Many thanks, great video, I'm still working on identifying the components.

[@sharkscrapper]

In the description I left time stamps to make it easier for you to go back and reference this video. That may help you with future identification. I'll also add more close ups of boards with component identifications to assist in future vids.

[@mcmetal632]

@@sharkscrapper I did notice the time stamps and description, that was nice. Close ups do help.😀 I enjoy your videos and content.👍

[@MihaelaClaudiaPuscas]

You presented the clip really well! I was happy to learn something new!

[@sharkscrapper]

Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for the feedback.

[@michaelschuenemann3505]

ANOTHER GREAT AND INFORMATIVE VIDEO - WE LOVE IT - STAY SAVE AND GREETINGS FROM AUSTRALIA !!!!

[@sharkscrapper]

Thanks, will do! You do the same.

[@Maddz-Thee-Bee]

Thanks for explaining what BGA's are! The names of half the things you took off might as well have been in Greek for as much as I understood them. Still I learned a lot, thanks!

[@sharkscrapper]

Happy to help "C". I have plenty more videos talking about ewaste and components. Also happy to help via email: [e-mail].

[@pecosjack9122]

Tedious, but I suppose accumulation is the word in this hobby. I really enjoyed the information.

[@sharkscrapper]

It can be tedious at times Karen. I'm a "cherry picker" when it comes to depopulating, so that can take time. Hopefully it will be worth it in the long run.

[@poosmate]

You got yourself some nice bit n bobs there Shark, happy sorting! Take care, Poo

[@sharkscrapper]

Thanks Poos

[@poosmate]

@@sharkscrapper Remember our conversation about Indium from LCD screens a week or so ago? Please watch this video "Solar Cell From A Broken LCD Screen - Part 2 - Recovering Indium". It's the best video I've seen on Indium. i.e. where to find it on the screen, how to recover it and how to purify it. Cheers, Poo

[@sharkscrapper]

Thanks poosmate - I just watched this video, very interesting. Greatly appreciate the recommendation. I also sub'd to his channel.

[@poosmate]

@@sharkscrapper Glad you liked it. Now, he doesn't respond to comments unless they are posted on the video he's just released, he said that on a previous video I watch so I've stopped commenting LOL. I can kind of understand because he has his Patreons to look after who he interacts with much more by the sounds of it. However, where do your Patreons come from? Still an interesting channel though. Take care, Poo

[@johnmedina8896]

Great video, but if I could, i would like to suggest one thing. The next time you do one of these videos would you please give a close up of the parts that you are removing. I think that would be very helpful to those of us that are just getting into e-scrapping. Thank you.

[@sharkscrapper]

Sure thing John, thank you

[@pederlindstrom3132]

Hello shark. When I do my boards, I have an old rug on the work bench, you might have seen it. The rug helps the boards Stay still when I pick off things with a screwdriver, when using a hammer and chisel I put the board against the benchvise, that way it stays in place. Learned something from you as well,, I did not know about the Niobium stuff, will keep them separate from tantalum.

[@sharkscrapper]

I must admit, I'm torn between using a chuck of rug and the cutting board. I've done both and like both. Usually holding the board steady when I'm not recording is not an issue. I can just bang through them. I'll continue researching the Niobium and post updates I come across.

[@pederlindstrom3132]

@@sharkscrapper no problem holding boards when not filmning of course. I need to get a camera and stand for the garage. Not much fun scrapping with one hand and holding the phone with the other hand. With a bit of luck I might have found a buyer for tantalum and mlcc palladium, don't know price of tantalum but I think €53/gram for palladium is rather good.

[@andrewpowellnz]

Something decent to watch on a wild wet windy evening here in Wellington New Zealand & wet or snow in other places here in NZ Stay safe if you are not in Lockdown my Friend

[@sharkscrapper]

Sorry the weather is nasty. Blazing hot here, been over 100F every day for the last week.

[@dr.a006]

One thing I discovered is, certain boards I can totally flex or bend and the BGAs and gold corner ones and some flat packs will detach a little, then they pry off much easier. We’ll explained techniques. Thanks 👍

[@sharkscrapper]

That's a great tip - thanks for sharing it. I'm moving away from depopulating these days. I've secured some corporate accounts and I need to keep things moving pretty fast. That and good sale prices from BOARDSORT.COM make it more cost effective for me to reduce my depopulating activity.

[@dr.a006]

@@sharkscrapper what have you found to be the most economical way to ship to them? I haven’t shipped anything yet. Just stock piling till it’s worth shipping certain things. Luckily I have a yard 30 mins from me (Utah Metal Works) that buys boards for a decent price, but the smaller, more valuable cherry pick items I’ll either process or send to Boardsort someday. I have an IT guy that hooks me up with a dozen or so computers and eWaste every month or two to keep me busy. Thanks

[@sharkscrapper]

@@dr.a006 I have a biz account with FEDEX that gives me a good discount on the larger boxes. I also use Pirate Ship for either UPS or USPS. They have very good discounts.

[@CruiserMac]

E-waste is very technical stuff Shark !

[@sharkscrapper]

Yes, but plenty of good resources out there to learn from. Two main challenges - consistent supply and a reliable place to sell. Oh wait, isn't that always the challenge?

[@CruiserMac]

@@sharkscrapper Yes, we lack the reliable place to sell up here unfortunately.

[@mikeahl5123]

After you remove all the items. what is the value if any of the board?

[@sharkscrapper]

Next to nothing. If you’re lucky you might get low grade board price.

[@RuneChaosMarine]

@0:50 where has moosescraper gone?

[@sharkscrapper]

Sorry, I have no idea.

[@clarkepayne]

I've seen a few i960 processors on boards, but don't know their value. Also they are not pocketed. Is this a separate category of processer or does it go as ceramic or fiber?

[@sharkscrapper]

As you know some i960's are ceramic and some are plastic. Not being socket mounted further adds to the complication of the grouping. I treat the plastic ones as flat packs if I remove them. I avoid removing the ceramic ones seeking upgraded board value instead. However, on the rare occasion I do remove them I put them in with those ceramic CPU's the most closely resemble depending on their condition after removal.

[@joedavis9155]

What are flat packs made of?

[@sharkscrapper]

They are essentially IC's so they are potentially gold bearing. The bodies can be ceramic or plastic.

[@gabrielmaligeorges6996]

that was great, really informative and helpful. thanks shark.

[@sharkscrapper]

You are very welcome Gabriel, glad you liked it.

[@UKscrapper]

Great video shark enjoyed watching nice job you done

[@sharkscrapper]

Thank you 🤗

[@streetcopper1151]

Thanks brother learned a ton

[@sharkscrapper]

Awesome Seth - glad you liked it

[@judybeckner9047]

Wow, very helpful Shark

[@sharkscrapper]

Awesome Judy - glad you found it useful.

[@jonathanlincoln7381]

Do you have to take this stuff off if your not going to refine the gold .or just sell it to bord sort

[@sharkscrapper]

A very important question Jonathan. If you are going to sell to BOARDSORT.COM I recommend you NOT depopulate the boards. Depopulating risks lowering the grading of the board for sale. You can remove socket mounted IC's and jumpers if you want to but otherwise, just leave the boards as is for maximum sale value.

[@donniebrown2896]

Good one Shark, maybe I missed it but what's your take on old style three legged transistors. BTW, your bench is just like mine, set up almost exactly the same, same tools, including the chisels Thanks

[@sharkscrapper]

Thanks Donnie - Hopefully you bench is neater than mine 😂 Good question that I did not address. I frequently take three leg transistors.

[@poosmate]

@@sharkscrapper Why? That's a loaded question which will become clear in my response to Donnie, have to get back to work right now though..... dun dun duuuun........

[@poosmate]

Hi Donnie I'd be interested to know what yours is too. I watched a video last night about 3 legged transistors and about how they can generate a small amount of electricity. I get very excited when I find one small thing can do something, makes me wonder, what can lots of small things do? Take care, Poo

[@donniebrown2896]

@@poosmate hey Poo, I've seen other channels associated with recovery of precious metal, gold and silver say the transistors may contain small or trace amounts of gold. When I first got started in microscrapping I was doing what most others do, go after the obvious precious and non ferrous. I've seen and heard stories that the display screens may have rare earth metals. I no longer take "chances" I remove everything I can. Everything has its own container, with the exception of tin shred, I hoard everything. It's like Ewaste Ben said "scrap for today money, hoard for tomorrow money"

[@sharkscrapper]

@@poosmate Poosmate and Donnie: I take transistors for the possible precious metal content. Donnie noted the same.

[@garytracey1690]

Good morning from Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@sharkscrapper]

Good morning back to you Ireland

[@TheBunkmeister]

where are you located? i wanna come learn from you so i can ask question after question... 😂.

[@sharkscrapper]

I appreciate the eagerness to learn. Unfortunately, my insurance company is very particular about me having people in the Shark Cage. But I'm always available via email and in the comments.

[@scrapman502]

23:00 Don't EVER throw away the black platic on top of the IC's That is where most of your gold is! All the bonding wires are located in the plastic. The gold left behind on the pcb is insignificant and most times you can just throw that away. ( I cut off the gold corner.) Some of the gold pads will stick to the plastic too. If you're really lucky, all the gold pads will remain on the pcb after you pop off the plastic .You can then determine if it's worth processing them. I just cut around the gold parts and save the centers to avoid getting the tin and lead in my chemicals. E-waste Ben made this mistake, and then quickly corrected himself after I left him a comment.

[@sharkscrapper]

You're so wishy washy with your comments. 🤣 Now to be serious. I appreciate your feed back and amplifications. Any additional accurate information from experienced scrappers is always welcome, appreciated and valuable to the many new scrappers that watch.

[@scrapman502]

@@sharkscrapper Do you not consider me an Experienced Scrapper? I'm just trying to help you out.

[@sharkscrapper]

@@scrapman502 Yes, I do. That was the point of my comment.

[@poosmate]

Humour doesn't always travel well over text. Thanks for this info "There's gold in them there plastic caps!" LOl Take care and see you around the net, Poo

[@sharkscrapper]

Scrapman50, Poosmate made a very good point about humor not translating well in text type correspondence. So I'll be clear. I do consider you an informed and experienced scrapper and I value your input.

[@barrywest3758]

Hmmm, decisions, decisions, decisions......hmmm, can't make my mind up to come to a decision. LOL, this is why I don't do this kinda thing. Plus, not much eWaste of this sort out in the country setting I'm located. That's probably a good thing for me. I'm too much of a perfectionist to perform this type Scrapping. 😁 Great informative video, enjoyed. Thanks for sharing

[@sharkscrapper]

LOL Barry - there are very few black/white decisions when scrapping - no matter what one is scrapping. 😂

[@poosmate]

I think I've made a decision as I don't get many boards and what I get would be of low quality and there's nowhere really to take/send boards to here in England. So, when I get my butt into gear and start scrapping, I will depop everything and sort into the component parts and by the time I have enough maybe there will be somewhere to send them. As long as the return covers the cost of postage that's fine. Take care, Poo

[@hustle4adream355]

Long video, but it was done very well! I wish a yard around my bought boards, but looking at sending to boardsort. Any recommendations?

[@sharkscrapper]

Check out Boardsort's forum. I have spent a lot of time going through the old posts and discussions on how to grade/identify boards. Lots of very useful information there. If you have a question about how a board should be classified, email a picture to Chris. He's very good at getting back to you.

[@ewastemike7700]

Ic's are also any chip with 6 legs or more. Razor knife works well on fkat pack's also. To many containers Lol. That board you are working on i would just rtemove the tantulams & gold bga and sell the rest for perphilal. Great video.

[@sharkscrapper]

Thanks Mike. Good point on the 6 legs I forgot to mention that, thank you. If I lived within driving distance of Boardsort, or similar buyer, I would absolutely do the same thing. Unfortunately for me, I have to factor in shipping which means I lose money shipping peripheral boards unless I'm filling space in a box with a lot of high paying boards. Fortunately for me, my yard is kind of flexible in what they call "high grade" vs "mid-grade" to my advantage. The value of a good long standing relationship - something you know and do extremely well.

[@jayh8490]

how long have you been doing this? you have a lot of material.. I have no where close to that... Also, i don't have a place to sell boards, Can i just take everything off of them? or is that a waste of time?

[@sharkscrapper]

Jay, where are you? If you don't have any place to sell your boards your options include recovering what you can (gold, silver, copper, etc) from components or NOT do ewaste. Copper and aluminum are easy to get from the boards. Gold, silver, platinum, etc require much more work and dangerous acids. Plus you need to collect a lot of feed stock material.

[@jayh8490]

@@sharkscrapper I'm in Ontario canada, yeah I take off all that good stuff but I'm not sure what to do with what's left. I've been throwing it into shred after I take off the aluminum, copper, gold stuff, crystals... but could never find a place to sell the boards to after that

[@davegdm954]

arent those "pliers" that you are using techinically called channel locks?. No judgement I just curious

[@sharkscrapper]

yes, channel locks

[@scrapperdscrapperj3948]

Great teaching moment 👍

[@sharkscrapper]

Glad you think so!

[@scrapman502]

The gold finger strip boards from monitors don't produce much gold. If you just toss the finger strips in with your ram fingers, you'll find that most of it will not come off.. You need to treat the finger strips in a hot bath of Lye to remove the "glue" that is adhering to the fingers, otherwise the gold will just sit there.. You can cut off the gold circles from the boards, it won't produce large foils, but will still make small "sparkles" in your acid. You'll eventually figure this out when you start processing your own scrap. Eventually you'll have to get your feet wet and go out to Home Depot or Lowes and buy your first gallon of acid. Walmart has the best source of Peroxide..

[@sharkscrapper]

Thanks Scrapman50. You are absolutely correct. I'll need to dive in at some point.

[@michaelbrumfitt]

👍

[@sharkscrapper]

👍 back at you Michael

[@MrShekoexile]

Albuquerque NM liked and followed.

[@sharkscrapper]

Awesome - welcome aboard Albuquerque! Do you do a lot of scrapping?

[@s-s-p704]

very clear information , but IF i ever do get into ewatse i know who to watch

[@sharkscrapper]

Well I hope you'll also check out a few more creators other than me 😂🤣

[@s-s-p704]

@@sharkscrapper I haven't got the time , shark 😆😆

[@greekgods3399]

love it

[@EstonianScrapper]

i watched all video an i was suprised how easily you cut that board with scissors like tools..

[@sharkscrapper]

thank you - those scissors were designed to cut sheet tin and aluminum siding, so they are pretty tough.

[@RafalScrapper]

33:50 hey sir do not mix that things with the decent fingers that need an extra treatment with lay before 47:30 lol got one of them ha ha yeah that was interesting to watch it is always fun to see others scrappers method i keep saying how many scrappers that many ways to do certain stuff 👍😀👍

[@sharkscrapper]

Don't worry Rafal, I'm planning to do a careful separation of clean gold fingers from the dirty stuff before I process. Still just stock piling.

[@terrycairns6255]

Try flush cutting electronic snips

[@sharkscrapper]

Thanks Terry - I always like tool recommendations. I'll look into them.

[@muriaticacid7004]

Thumbs Up

[@TinManScrapper]

Like your videos.

[@sharkscrapper]

I appreciate that!

[@quinton3997]

I've got billions of mlcc not pulled yet but I've yet have seen a non magnetic

[@harryverboom4032]

Hey shark im questioning myself always should it really be worth it to pull things of the board in the end the recovery proces for gold is difficult and expensive idont depopulate boards it saves alot of work and you dont devalue the board but again fun video and hopefully its worth it for u in the end

[@sharkscrapper]

Strong the gold force is... Unless you're serious about committing to gold recovery, and that means a lot research and investment in safety equipment, gear and chemicals, I wouldn't go down the depopulation that path.

[@scrappingwithr5486]

I have a feeling you can teach me a hell of a lot but then i enter the rabbit hole of microscrapping and i just dont think my time will allow all of that lol

[@sharkscrapper]

You're smart, you can figure it out. Just take it a little at a time. It took me years of watching and learning then many more of hands on experience before I recorded my first video. You have the advantage of Bob and I hear to help.

[@scrappingwithr5486]

@@sharkscrapper thanks I luckily enjoy learning lol time is my problem

[@ScrappingIrish]

what no heat gun great video sir

[@sharkscrapper]

LOL - no heat gun, sorry

[@jr-a-cat]

Of all the fans that you have scraped you didn't save one ?. It was sure a hot one there.You right about cutting away from yourself "the fingers you cut will be your own".One trip to ER will wipe out all of the work you have done. Thanks for the video

[@sharkscrapper]

I have two box fans that I normally use but they interfere with the audio so I don't use them when recording.

[@jebws]

Wonderfull video! A great l i k e for you.

[@sharkscrapper]

Many thanks

[@crphililps2594]

wet and windy here in victoria australia too, thanks for the videos shark........ahhh the endless debate.....depopulate or not...lol I figure theres a big crash coming......hoard your gold silver copper tantalum....etc

[@sharkscrapper]

and your comment brings up the second eternal scrapper question - sell before the anticipated crash OR hold for recovery. Here we are, simple scrappers, making the same decisions as CEO's of major corporations and government leaders. 🤣

[@scrapman502]

5:50 Important! Cut away from the sausage!

[@sharkscrapper]

🔪🖐🚑 = bad combination

[@scrapman502]

24:46. You are corrrect. you should leave this chip on your board. It has NO gold in it. it's called a flip-chip and has no bonding wires in it. Technically it has no value. I don't understand why anyone would put value on it. Just for curiosity I dismantled a few a while back and even dissolved all the metals out of it. There was absolutely no gold in it. so-- don't waste your time people!

[@sharkscrapper]

Great feed back, thank you

[@billyb5057]

seems time consuming my thoughts either an interesting hobby or you like doing it dont see a lot of return value in this or maybe I am wrong *its a like👍Au👍and a full watch too*

[@sharkscrapper]

Billy - for me this is a hobby with passion that helps to pay for itself. It can be time consuming, especially if one does a lot of board picking. ROI is very dependent on each scrapper's situation. I like it as a hobby because it pays for itself and is good for the planet.

[@kevinraines4318]

please dont make one about boiling eggs

[@sharkscrapper]

LOL - my wife is a chef. I could easily put something together if you'd like 🤣