SHARPENING DRILLS with Vevor Grinder

This a 2 part video.
Link below is for the Vevor site--
VEVOR drill grinder:s.vevor.com/bfQk1H
Discount Codes:VVSALE5
Here is the EUROPEAN link - s.vevor.com/bfQm8k
#VEVOR #grinder#sharpener

[@jimc4731]

Yes, complete the product demonstration by demonstrating the point splitting procedure! This was an excellent video! Keep up the good work 💥 JIM ❤

[@rayp.454]

I bought this machine earlier this year. I am a retired toolmaker who has done thousands of drill points. Now, having my own shop, I will never sharpen by hand again (under 1/2"). This thing is so quick and precise. Split point sharpening is awesome too. Thanks for the video Mr. Pete!

[@mrpete222]

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[@mftmachining]

I second that.👍

[@cdrom1070]

HEY you should be in here ranting that the vevor left a nasty burr and you need to do it free hand on your dads old grinding wheel instead of being a lazy brat! how did 20 years of internet 'wisdom' about sharpening drills become undone?? the comments on drill sharpener topics are supposed to grumble like a category 5 earth quake. The lack of negative reinforcement and ranting/yelling means I might actually buy this tool instead of losing a eyeball like I am supposed to !!! I thought it was a badge of honor to be pulling drill bits out of the ceiling with a vise grip. Maybe one day I can develop a electrolytic drill sharpener to further soften the kids in shop class while achieving superior cutting edge and hole quality. (its possible)

[@rockityrock]

Yes, I would be interested in the split point demonstration. Good job, I was taught in school to sharpen by hand, its a shame they dont teach this anymore

[@ritamastin647]

Mr. Pete I sharpened tools for years. That is a quality tool from what I have seen. I recommend when teaching someone else to grind use a black sharpie to cover the drill edge. It will show the many different angles you are trying to describe.

[@erik_dk842]

I sat and wished for the same

[@davekellogg6819]

Hi Mr. Pete. I’m very interested in a part 3 video demonstrating split point grinding. Thanks for being a great shop teacher.

[@ralphf8951]

I've been sharpening drills by hand for about 50 years, but lately my eyes and hands are not what they used to be. Can't thank you enough for demonstrating this model. I'm going to purchase one today, thanks to your recommendation. And also, a great thanks to your dedication in teaching all of us out here.

[@dougvanallen2212]

Hey Mr Pete great camera work we really appreciate all of your knowledge that share with us thank you Sir

[@slypig24]

Mr Pete, you gave Very clear instructions on that drill sharpener.

[@mftmachining]

I have this machine for nearly 2 years now, sharpend hundreds of bits and can say: That thing is excellent. Top quality machine.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Do you know what the backwards collets are called? It appears that the small size collets have the drill holding hole on the narrow part, and most of the collets I can find have it on the wide end of the collet.

[@mftmachining]

@@jeffshackleford3152 Those are standard ER Collets. Nothing special on them.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@mftmachining the standard ones have the grip opening on the wide part of the collet. These have the grip opening on the narrow part of the collet. If you have one, look at the collets in the small sizes and then compare them to regular collets of the same size. They are different.

[@mftmachining]

@@jeffshackleford3152 I just checked...you are right. The 4-5mm and below are different on the inside. But standard ones might work too? I only got Er 32 and 25 so i cant Check it. Sorry.

[@smaqdaddy]

You sir have been a fountain of information for over a decade on KZbin and I am sure decades more as a tracher! Thanks Mr Pete! ❤

[@mrpete222]

Wow, thanks!

[@51-FS]

Yeah I wish we wood of have teachers like this win I was on school. I probably won't of droped out in the 7

[@rustyshackleford928]

Mr. Pete, you are an absolute gem. I have watched you for years and you always teach me something. Thanks for what you do. Oh, and.... I'm buying one of these dudes.. I got 2 coffee cans of bits ready to go!

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@ohmbug10]

I like this machine compared to the Lisle, which I found extremely tedious to use. I'd love to see how to split the points. Dad taught me how to sharpen bits freehand at home. When he became my boss in the mill he showed me the Lisle and gave me the pamphlet. He caught me sharpening freehand one day. He asked why. The Lisle takes too long to set up for each size and I was taught well. That was the last time I used it.

[@mrpete222]

I cannot agree more. That’s why I gave my Lyle grinder to a bomb.

[@user-rk4zm3nb5f]

Most informative, Mr. Pete. I still take my drills into work and have the tool & die guys sharpen them for me. However, I'm retiring soon and I'll lose my access to that grinder. So this was a timely video.

[@billstrahan4791]

Excellent demo! I'm sold. I would definitely want the 135 degree capability, since at this point that's almost all I use in the CNC machines. Great work as always, Mr. Pete!

[@4speed3pedals]

From use, I find split point drill bits have less wander and possibly step and pilot drilling. Depends on the project of course. Yes, I would be interested in seeing how this machine does this. Thanks for posting this, I didn't know Vevor had these. I have a few Vevor tools within a short time. Plasma utter, extension cord, and other items. So far, very pleased.

[@2dividedby3equals666]

I've always looked down on these. Having never used on on person in, I always thought that these were light and more of a gadget. But as you have pointed out, this particular one seems to be really well made. Maybe the Lisle style is much better, but since I can't get one I might consider the Vevor. Sorry for the long rant, thanks for sharing you thoughts on this machine! Take care!!

[@vicchiapetta4166]

You explain things so Beautifully!! It’s always such a pleasure to see your Videos!! Thanks from Petaluma, Ca, and God Bless You and your Family, Vic!!!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@angelramos-2005]

Great video,mrpete.Let´s take a look at the split point bits.Thank you.

[@jimmieblue6262]

You explain things in a way that is easy to understand. You are a good teacher.

[@mrpete222]

😄😄

[@walter2990]

Ok, since my eyesight isn't what it used to be, and my hands aren't steady as they were, and since I have 47 dozen poorly sharpened drills..., im gunna "git me won of them thar sharpeners"! Thanks for the tutorial and I'll be sure to watch this one again and again!

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@Wachuko-1]

What a great video. Just the first part, where it shows me what drills are worth saving/sharpening, was worth it. The rest was just icing on the cake. Thank you again for teaching us newbies on these topics!!

[@mrpete222]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Garth2011]

Interesting sharpener...I saw that one that Abom used, the machine that is 100% a drill bit grinder only. It's fairly rugged and heavy duty made which uses some sort of a cam lobe to move the bit to get just the right relief or behind the cutting edge. That one is likely thousands of dollars and no longer made so this Vevor seems fairly decent for the DIY shop.

[@Scorpio722]

Thank you for sharing your insights, experiences and educational/real world knowledge.

[@johnlee8231]

Collet system is where this shines I believe. Nice camera shots

[@johncloar1692]

Thanks Mr Pete for another great video. Nice bit grinder.

[@Mike-hb4pc]

This is the best video on this machine I’ve seen, hands down! Very informative and easy to understand. I just don’t do enough drill bits to justify the cost. Thanks

[@mrpete222]

Wow, thanks!

[@gordoneckler4537]

much appreciate your expert discussion and demonstration of the drill grinder, My only misgiving about the grinder is its capacity ie 1/2 inch drills. I use a lot of larger diameter drills in my shop and would like to have an accurate way to grind those.

[@aceroadholder2185]

Larger drills are easier to sharpen than small ones especially with a belt sander. They are large enough so that lip relief and length are more easily measured. If kept after keeping a large drill sharp isn't too bad. If damaged it is time consuming to grind the damaged areas away.

[@4GSR]

The key to sharpening a drill bit is, will it cut after sharpening. You proved that at the end of the video. I have both a older Dardex and drill doctor both. The biggest problem of both is getting the bit position properly for a correct grind. The Dardex is usually no problem. But the Drill Doctor, I could never get it to sharpen a bit worth a flip that would cut without applying heavy pressure! I'm sold on the Vevor drill sharpener. Thanks for sharing, Ken

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@8mmman689]

Always enjoy your videos!

[@guye7763]

I also have one of these and love it. Like most , I have had a few other gizmos before but this beats them hands down and is surprisingly quick.

[@mrpete222]

Totally agree

[@Chromevulcan]

I would love to see the split point sharpening

[@lathammarx1458]

Great series on that Vevor drill grinder.

[@scottjones7279]

As usual I get the extra credit 😊

[@alander6734]

I enjoy your videos. I watched yours and other qualified reviewers on this machine before I bought it. I to am very pleased with it’s accuracy and ease of sharpening bits. I am a 45 plus year toolmaker and appreciate a properly ground drill. Although the price is a little more I would like to pay for home shop use, my profession has spoiled me in appreciating a drill that drills to size and finish quality. One more point is your recommendation of researching the proper geometry and nomenclature of a drill bits is spot on. I have the Ready reference and also the pamphlets on Cleveland use and care of drill bits and reamers. They are free for download on the web. Thank you and take care.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@tomeyssen9674]

Thank you for this. I have one and needed your help! 😊

[@mrpete222]

Glad I could help!

[@TheUncleRuckus]

I would certainly like a part 3 showing the split point process. 👍👍

[@mudnducs]

Thank you for that thorough instruction!!!

[@mrpete222]

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[@NeoQJ]

Just need this instruction on time, thanks!

[@mrpete222]

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[@daveharriman2756]

Greaty tutorial on this machine, this looks far better than my Drill Pro which was a waste of money, I would like to know what actually is split point, and why you would need one, cheers, Dave

[@mikekorth1733]

Very informative video, I would very much be interested in a third video on this machine. Great job as always!!

[@mrpete222]

Eventually, I will do part three after more of these machines are in stock. They are sold out.

[@cschwad559]

Amen on the comical instructions.

[@Duckfarmer27]

Lyle - Two good videos this morning with great explanation and camera work. I was fortunate enough to snag a Darex M5 sharpener at a school auction that was not used much at all - like you I inhabit auctions and got it for a third of the Vevor cost, was very lucky. The Vevor is a somewhat simplified version of that to make it more economical to build but get the job done. Agree that with older eyes it gets harder to do the smaller drills. It would be great to see a video using the web thinning feature to compare, but I can guess how it works from looking at the setup. Keep up the good work. Dale

[@mrpete222]

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[@jeffshackleford3152]

The only thing missing from the vevor is the pincers like they have on the darex.

[@garethhoward3995]

I have seen at least two other videos on this machine abd your's was the very best by far.Your different camera views really helped me to see how it worked. I would like to see how to split the point. I'm not a fan of the 135° point as I feel it is hard to control the break through especially with a hand drill. Thanks for a great job.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@darsmith3448]

Yes please, show the split-the-point!

[@ernerstowerdum3942]

Excelent vídeo Mr Pete, thank you

[@mrpete222]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ernerstowerdum3942]

@@mrpete222 of course, always is great see your videos.

[@horsetowater]

Thanks for using the correct nomenclature for everything ❤

[@mrpete222]

You're welcome 😊

[@100yojimbo]

Excellent review Mrpete looks like a very good quality machine. Got no idea what a split drill is so would like to see that done.

[@mikedurham1481]

Thanks for the video. I enjoy all of your videos. I have learned so much from you and others on KZbin. Please do the split point video. Mike

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Every drill sharpening tool I have used requires a lot of practice to get the hang of it. In the end if you hang in there you should learn how to use them all correctly. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.

[@mrpete222]

Totally agree

[@bobbysu3648]

Thank you Mr. Pete. I have the older and newer DD drill sharpener but they just don't last. Sharpened 200+ on the DD500 and

[@mrpete222]

I have two more videos coming up on two different models of vevor drill grinders watch for them

[@kimber1958]

Thanks Mr Pete

[@clydedecker765]

This is the only grinder other than the one that may have been an Atlas used by Max Grant of Swan Valley Machine in Perth Australia. He was quite vocal about the complexity of using it. Adam Booth has demonstrated more than one way to do it by hand and gage on larger bits and huge grinders but .. he's been doing it for a lot of years.... This machine seems to make it more fool proof but I am a large obstacle to that one ....

[@sarto7bellys]

I learnt to grind drills and taps by hand when I was a whipper snapper in the early 70's and it's a skill I have never lost despite changing career over the last 50 years

[@mrpete222]

I learned it in 1961. We are certainly in the minority, you know, lol

[@DrFiero]

Like how at @20:33 you clearly showed how you felt about the manual by flipping it the bird. :D

[@MidwestCoupe]

Mr Pete never lets you down with the in-depth details

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@tomscott4723]

Thanks!

[@harlech2]

I would love to see a split point sharpening video demonstration, Mr. Peterson!

[@bentontool]

Mr. Pete, I have an OLIVER MODEL 21 DRILL GRINDER, but I have always had trouble getting good results with it. I suspect it is due to the wheels that it uses. The bits often burn, despite using coarse wheels grits & trying to take light cuts. This appears to be a superior system. The Oliver is also capable of sharpening shoulder drill bits, which is handy.

[@mrpete222]

I have never used an Oliver

[@mikecabe6127]

Great video Mr Pete and yes I would like to see a split-point demo' Thanks Mike

[@robertfontaine3650]

Job gave me a 1/2 drill bit and told me to drill out a thousand holes 1/8th in concrete. Wrists hurts for weeks after but I learned how to sharpen a drill bit.

[@mrpete222]

That’s a lot of holes

[@davelister796]

Thanks for the video Mr. Pete. I have been wanting to try the drill doctor again (my last experience with it was less than satisfactory). So this video was very timely for me, for a better (stout metal) alternative. I just placed my order with your discount code. I'm anxious to get all my drill bits in order and in good "shape". ... Love your videos.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you. I have a drill doctor also. I have never made a video with it yet. I intend to make a video in the future where I compare the two.

[@arnenelson4495]

You definitely have to tweak the Drill Doctor settings to make it work, mine's an early one. With 2 chucks it'll do up to 3/4" and up to 1/2" with left hand chuck.

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Enjoyed video thanks for sharing

[@bentontool]

Thanks for all your fantastic videos... but... I rarely throw bits away. As you have pointed out in the past, it is nice to have a set of "stubby" or short bits! 🙂

[@paulpipitone8357]

Looks good when my drill doctor finally quits I will pick up a new unit

[@cfishel15]

Thank you for the demo, Mr.Pete. This seems to be much better than the dreaded Drill Doctor!

[@mrpete222]

So true, I think I will compare the two in a future video

[@ellieprice363]

The biggest problem I’ve found with the Drlll Doctor is its use of only two chucks for many different sizes instead of more accurate collets like the Vevor.

[@erik_dk842]

9:43 Good idea to keep track of which side is which

[@kisoia]

That is a nice machine, thanks for the review. I would like to see it cut some split points - thanks!

[@horsetowater]

Great stuff

[@glennschemitsch8341]

Being a retired tool & die maker, if found that sharpening many drill bits on a verticle belt sander just like the one behind you, was very easy as compared to a circular grinding wheel. I did thin all the webs by hand with a pencil-type air grinder to achieve a bit more akin to a cnc drill bit sharpened point.

[@mrpete222]

I totally agree, when I sharpen drills by hand, i much prefer the belt sander

[@glennschemitsch8341]

@@mrpete222 We oldtimers always find the cheap and easy way out. 😄

[@wrstew1272]

@@glennschemitsch8341🤫 when it’s stores closed (It’s 15 minutes to Canada here) and your bit is dull or you snap a tip, you know what you need to do. Most don’t 😢

[@ypaulbrown]

Outstanding Mr Peterson.......always fantastic information in your videos......Paul

[@mrpete222]

Thank you kindly

[@marshalldarcy7423]

I would like to see how you can change the angle of what you call Lip clearance/relief or longitudinal clearance/relief. The 59 degree clearance is not the big problem for the common gauge will make it fairly easy to grind but the lip clearance is.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

There is an Allen head screw in front of the sharpening hole, loosen it and turn the sharpening hole left and right. It is only a sticker, so it may be misaligned, mine is, I have to set it at like 126 or somewhere around there according to the scale.

[@brianbutler3954]

As always I love your video, but I must tell you Lyle I bough an expensive Darex drill sharpener back in the 1980's with intention of sharpening my drill bits, but I have found by the time my drills need sharpening, the shanks are all scored up. My solution is to just by new reasonably price drills at the flea market and forget about sharpening. What all my buddies and I say, is you can never have too many drill bits.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@johnquinn3899]

Nice comparison comments on competitive machines Mr Pete.

[@glenarthurphillips]

I give my vote for a demonstration of split point grinding.

[@RobytheFlorentine]

Great video

[@russkepler]

I have a number of drill grinders and the easiest to use is the Optima. No changes beside holder for drill size, edge setup is optical so the drill helix doesn't come into play and the split point grinding is spot on. My Drill Dr always seemed to require my tongue in exactly the right spot in my cheek and the Lisle 91000 was never set near the right size. I still use the Lisle for flat point and 3/4 flute but that's pretty rare. I also have a small Christen for the small drills the Optima is not really set for with coarser wheel. Big downside of the Optima is price but both of mine were auction purchases, one for $100 and it came setup for carbide.

[@mrpete222]

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[@brandontscheschlog]

I would like to see you use the split point feature so we see how effective it is. Thanks Mr. Pete

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice unit, it works just like my Darex sharpener.

[@arnenelson4495]

Another superb video, thank you. Yes please do a split point vid. I'm still Drill "Doctoring", gotta tweak the settings to make it work correctly.

[@mrpete222]

😄😄

[@carrollprice1213]

Another great video. Does the snarpening stone require dressing and reshaping after extended use, and if so, etc?

[@ellieprice363]

If I may answer. No, CBN and Diamond wheels retain their shape for life. They can be cleaned but not resharpened.

[@bertjankosters]

I would like to see the 3rd part.

[@christurley391]

Thanks again

[@SilenceDogood76]

Sold out 2 days after this video came out... no doubt thanks to these videos...

[@mrpete222]

Really? Are you sure ? when they first offered this product to me? I was told that they were just finally available and back in stock.

[@bh.boilers]

Look a little further, this sharpener is also marketed in blue by another company, Ray.

[@SilenceDogood76]

@@mrpete222 was listed out of stock when I made the comment. A “Mr Pete” stamp of approval is a huge selling point.

[@ellieprice363]

@@SilenceDogood76So glad Mr. Pete didn’t retire and move to Florida (?) several years ago. Look at all the great videos we’d be missing if he’d took off and left us.

[@SilenceDogood76]

@@ellieprice363 For sure. The maker community would certainly be less without him...

[@AVBros37]

Great instructional video

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@chrischapel9165]

I own a drill Dr and have had mixed results...Dale Deary did a video on it which was encouraging and helpful and I see many similarities to these machines but, after watching this MR PETE video I have a even greater understanding of machine drill grinding...I am going to blow the dust off of the Dr and give it another chance.

[@mrpete222]

I have a used drill doctor myself. I have used it several times, and it does work fairly well. But nothing like my new one. Sometime in the distant future, I intend to make a video comparing the two.

[@dondotson4604]

I would like very much to see the split point application of this machine. Thanks for showing us this machine.

[@frankpiazza953]

What about coatings on drills. What do you recommend?

[@keithhansen3963]

Part 3 ,please!!!!!!

[@SonOfMrGreengenes]

Not a bad bit sharpener. Better than most but not factory quality either. I see a change of angle or facet on the flank of the bit which makes for an improperly shaped chisel point. That will result in less than ideal performance. The change in angle on the flank of the bit should be gradual and it looks like this machine produces a faceted flank. It's nice to see that Mr. Pete addressed the issue of equal lip length by observing the chips ejected on both sides. Another good test for sharpening quality is the drilled hole diameter accuracy. Unequal lips will produce oversize holes.

[@davidcorriea8767]

Excellent video. I have one of these ordered. If my drills already have a split point I need to keep sharpening them that way correct?

[@mrpete222]

Not necessarily

[@roylucas1027]

As always. I’m now a little smarter. Thank you.

[@waynec369]

Split point drills are the only way to go. All sizes drill far easier with much less feed force. I think I would remove and discard the fan that's stacked onto the grinding wheel. You need to minimize the airborne dust, ESPECIALLY carbide dust as it will kill your lungs much faster. But, if you're a smoker it ain't gonna matter much.

[@cdrom1070]

not for plexiglass. and its still worth doing if you are a smoker, infact, you should actually be more worried about doing it if you are a smoker. The idea that if you smoke you are less susceptible to lung damage is preposterous. also the meds cost for lung damage from these abrasive dusts will make you turn white. if you get that bill you will realize you would be more financially secure in your old age as a professional hobo rather then a retired machinist.

[@tonyn3123]

I am interested in the split point drill sharpening. I am an amateur when it comes to drills, even though I have used numerous drills in my lifetime, but I understand the split point helps with "walking". I am just curious how this helps. Thanks.

[@jlawlar]

you can sharpen end mills with a different wheel, amazon offer it with a different wheel for sharpening end mills

[@mrpete222]

Really, tell me the exact name on Amazon, so I can look at it. Do not answer and this comment, make a new comment.

[@MichaelRoachWV]

I currently have a Drill Doctor 750X (I use 135 points), it worked well when I first got it, but the split points were always crap. There's a ton of plastic components, and it hasn't held up well. For split points, I actually take the top of the machine off now, and duck down with a faceshield and grind them manually (freehand). This machine looks *much* more rigid and accurate! Has anyone else had a similar experience with Drill Doctor?

[@richardjones2151]

Thankyou ...and please go for the Split-Point Video :-) As always; best regards, Richard UK....

[@jbranstetter04]

You won't believe some bits I bought years ago from China.. they were sharpened backwards. Basically the relief angle went up instead of down.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, I would believe you. I’ve seen the same thing.

[@radbot1]

You don't have to whack the pristine sharpened drill on anything to release the drill from the collet. Just keep loosening the collet and you should feel it become a little tight again. Just keep loosening and the drill will free itself, as the little retaining lip inside the collet chuck draws the collet back out. I have had this sharpener for a while, despite having good eyesight and can sharpen drills manually just fine, I still use this sharpener now, it's great, especially as I drill mostly stainless steel.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, I still need to practice with this machine. It really is a great machine, but I am like you and can sharpen them pretty well freehand. But my eyesight is not that good

[@radbot1]

@@mrpete222 The split point function is also great (and I would welcome your part 3 video to this machine). I did have to adjust the knob on top to get the point to meet in the middle but it's worth taking some time to get that right, and I don't let the drill drop in the hole, I gently lower it down so as to not damage / prematurely wear out the sharp 90 degree cutting edge of the wheel that cuts the split point. I don't bother looking down that hole for the main grind, I just listen to the sound and sharpen till I don't hear any more grinding happening. Maybe a part 4 could look at the diamond wheel. Maybe with the addition of a shop made rest or tool holder, this machine could double as a carbide lathe tool or tungsten electrode grinder? I'm tempted to try with my machine.

[@jraymond3218]

Instead of smashing the freshly cut drill bit to remove it. Try unscrewing the collet more until you feel it break free. The bit will fall out then.

[@dennistennyson8856]

I'm sure that it is a fine tool, but for the cost up to $500.00 it should come with American sized collects. I will stay with my Drill Doctor which grinds up to 49/64 " diameter very well in my opinion. The Drill Doctor has served me for years now.