Sharpening stones: my sharpening with naniwa chosera and bark river compound

The stones used in this video are
- Naniwa chosera 400
- Naniwa chosera 1000
- Naniwa chosera 3000
compounds
- Bark river black compound
- Bark river white compound
knife:
Mora clipper 12c27
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[@drshiteaim8716]

I like watching dbk's old videos.

[@Shooter11B]

I am going through and watching all the old videos now and I have to say, even at the beginning you still had something worth watching brother. Great information content!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Steven Szabo thank you so much steven

[@gixxerflier1]

Your English is excellent. Muuuuuch better than my Dutch!

[@AnthonyFister]

I've gone back to watch this again, just for fun... and just to see how far you guys have come in terms of knife & sharpening skills as well as presentation & production quality. You've come a long way. For a moment I thought it would be a great idea (and funny) to send you guys some telephone books for next Christmas... but I haven't seen a telephone book in the US for years now. Take care, guys.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

I've been looking for telephone books for more than a year now! They have dissapeared from the world! I managed to buy one a year back and than my mother was like... what is this crap and she threw it away...

[@Airik1111bibles]

LOL you were totally a Virtuevoice fan boy back then. I love watching these oldies , you two block heads😉 have really gone far. I can't believe you have your own knife and products now. Keep going boys , someday maybe you can open your own knife shop, learn how to make um yourself . Belt machines and blade stocks , a bit of elbow grease and presto DBK Knives . If Dave Canterbury can do it so could you guys .

[@omarfrommultihibu123]

Wow you guys have improved SOOOO much. I cant even imagine how much you will keep improving. Keep up the great work.

[@MW-lw5mn]

How is the 400 Chosera doing? A few days ago I read a few comments about it, saying that it’s producing too much slurry after some time working on it. Would you say it stays solid and hard through the sharpening?

[@NaptownLarry]

What is your view of the 5000 stone "now"? Do you still stop at 3000 and just strop after that?

[@southwalesoutdoors3215]

No way!! This just popped up auto after one of your other sharpening videos..... If you only knew then what the mighty DBk would become 😜🤘

[@Ayrton4everrr]

Miss the old days. Still very informative

[@vulpixgrant]

Third video watching from the beginning. The way you sharpen a blade, I don't think my butcher work knives would last very long doing that. They would be eaten up from repeated sharpening since the synthetic 'Plastic' cutting boards we use at work just dull the edges like crazy. I know it's an old video but if you respond, how long does this edge hold on an average strength steel like in the Mora?

[@CarlosDiaz-fp4lr]

hello. what kind of leather are you using? I use nobuck but my polish bevel its not the same. And seems you are using a simple cow leather also by the inner part of the leather? I thought that the correct side for strooping was the external side. Thanks and really good videos!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Carlos Diaz hey Carlos, thanks a lot! We use simple cow leather indeed. Not too thick and not too thin. The inside (rough side) for stropping. Make sure the leather is not softened with leather wax or something like that. Cheers

[@roguesheep1747]

Dose that Mora have a mirror finish ? And did you do it..

[@labreezy2275]

"I don't even like scandi" boy did he change his mind 😂 love how much ya'll have grown

[@AW_77]

10/10 for the English, mate. I especially like the "like skating on ice" simile.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

haha thanks a lot! It's nice to hear that. I was a bit worried about it.

[@lorisb1513]

How do the Naniwa speciality stones compare to the Choseras?

[@_boss_2833]

I love your old movies.

[@reidelnord]

what stone holder are you using?

[@water737]

does it matter about what strop then or just a paddle strop is fine?

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+water666 most strops are fine. Just look for one with thin leather that has the rough side up.

[@imkawed]

i can cut paper well out of the Nani pro 400. and cut as nothing out of the 3000. im wondering whi you dont

[@baldwin9281]

I know it’s an old video but as soon as you said “I don’t even LIKE Scandi” I subscribed.

[@ObsidianFrog]

Thanks for the demonstration.

[@gunny4029]

just got the chosera 300 from amazon via japan for about 70$, i am glad i can still get them for know. the 400 is sold as super ceramic but knowone knows why it is sold under that name but believe me and everyone else that got it that it is a real chosera

[@ElkArrow]

Why do you leave the slurry on the stone while sharpening?

[@gunny4029]

a good stop is the thinnest leather, and that looks good to me

[@Uncle_Red]

Do you still like Naniwa pro stones? Are they still your favorite?

[@stefanpohanka4145]

Hi Maarten are still using these stones today?

[@PaulK390S90V]

Obviously if you hit the strops after either 3 of those they would be super duper sharp, but since your going up to the 3k you wait. People sometimes don't realize you don't have to get rid of the burr on every stone and it will just get smaller and smaller as you go up in grit and then will basically be completely gone after stropping! I didnt know that at first and would spend all this time counting strokes and going down all the way to 1 on each side in single strokes like you showed us how some people do it. I like the way you do it and that's how I do it too now. Yea buddy. Love these videos Martin(I think that's how you spell your name, not sure if its spelled differently in your country ) and I think you should keep doing sharpening videos with different steels and different knives...

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks a lot Paul!

[@caidelander2561]

Got my chosera in the mail today thanks to you two and I'm in love , ps can you check out the habbilis bush tool or srt

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Caide Lander awesome,! We'll check it out!

[@mountainmuse]

Ik zag Naniwa chosera stones "edge pro" (zonder base) is dat een andere soort? Aha, thanks!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

dat zijn stenen voor de 'edge pro'. dat is een sharpening system. de stenen zijn een stuk kleiner en kunnen alleen op dat systeem.

[@wilsonline90]

Are your choceras in good conditions now? I had my choceras cracked, 2 and 5k. The 400 is the only one I believe will never crack. And I`ve heard of many people that lost their choceras like that.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Yes I still have them in perfect condition! Only the 400 was completely ground down so I had to get a new one. Soaking these stones or drying them in the direct sun can cause cracks. Luckily I've had none in these. My naniwa snow white is all cracks though even though I always took care of it. It still works like a charm but doesn't look nice anymore

[@wilsonline90]

I took care of mine, but crackes came out. Yes, still works, just not sure of how better would be without the cracks. Thanks for replying

[@wilsonline90]

Looks like you used them a lot. My 400 is still like 60%

[@paklong1008]

Nice job..! How do you sharpening karambit kind of knives?

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Mohammad Samezal karambits are a pain to sharpen. Almost impossible on water stones. You'll need something to pull the knife trough. Like a ceramic sharpening wheel or a diamond sharpening rod to stroke.

[@gunny4029]

why a karambit, i mean to say is whats good for u dosn't mean it is good for me i cant say anything about a karambit but it is made for killing, even the armed forces will not teach knife use in fighting sequence anymore in the usa.they teach it for SERE training which is Survival. evasion resistance and escape. you last ditch weapon is your side arm, most people live on fantasy on what a knife fight to the death is, two people can slice and chop the hell of each other before one or both fall to their death, i will not carry more than a 2,3" inch edc b/c in nyc tensions can rise and i dont want to get in trouble

[@gunny4029]

if you use black why not go to green before white. i usually don't use black but green/white but as of now would like to try the blk/gr/wh.

[@RemcoAlexanderPhD]

Nice job! I use the same technique, and achieve the same sharpness. Except I use chosera 400, 800, 2000, 5000 and then bark river white compound. Groeten uit Utrecht!

[@caidelander2561]

MrGearaholic what's the 5 k like

[@haylspa]

go get a couple naniwa super stones they are not the best for more coarse stones but in finer grits is where the super stones shine better then other stones try an 8,000 and 12,000 to your collection and a strop

[@nicolaidenmark]

May I ask where you buy the BR compounds? I have not bought them as importing them from the States will make them very expensive. Thanks.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

I first got 2 pieces from virtuovice when I bough a knife from him. The compound was the best one i've ever had. So when I bought some knives in America I took the opportunity to get some more compound. one bar will last you some years at least. i've tried many other compounds and they all did the job but the process was much longer or the knives didnt get as shiny and sharp.

[@nicolaidenmark]

Dutchbushcraft May I ask what store / site you got it from?

[@jgordon5004]

especially with the base on them

[@wesleysnider2915]

Old, but gold.

[@shawnsisson8190]

Dutch boys doing it right.

[@angerboy2957]

no bark river green compound after 3k chosera?

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+angerboy2957 I do own the green compound. However, the white compound seems aggressive enough to skip green.

[@angerboy2957]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives ok. I just got some bark river compounds and i really like them so far. Great vids man keep it up.

[@yasardegirmenci]

Hallo. Waar woon je ergens?

[@TipiAndRaft]

What do you use to keep your Stones flat?

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+GermanPrepper_94 I use a sk11 diamond plate. 150/600 grit

[@TipiAndRaft]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives thanks!

[@gunny4029]

probably expensive, i use a basic stone flattener after every session and my stones seem flat as i can tell

[@nelxonmiranda]

Geeeeez...get to it!

[@ronkennedy4494]

Do you know if chosera ships to America?

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Chosera is only for the Japanese market since they changed it last year. The professional series should be equally good and should be sold in the US

[@mareksicinski]

I've bought chosera 3000 from Amazon.de like two weeks ago. Full description Naniwa Chosera Schleifstein SS-3000 Körnung 3000, seller; Equinox Japan | Shopping from JAPAN I’ve paid toal EUR 115,47. The delivery time was around 3 weeks. Most probably they can deliver to US as well. Good luck. PS. I love the stone 😊

[@gunny4029]

i just got my orig chosera 400 from amazon for 58$ free shipping in the states in 3 days , i was awestruck . i thought i got ripped off but i am glad to know it was all legit. the 115 american$'s is same price but i guess it sells via united states and shipping to europe is probably quite expensive

[@gunny4029]

yes on amazon for sure i just got two and very happy

[@joew9415]

man how cool of you dude helping out your fellow man , cause you didn't have to show how you guys sharpen your knife's, I've always enjoyed sharpening my knife's but now I know there are better stones to you thanks to you guys man , good on ya .

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

cheers Joe! thanks a lot! quite the difference with the new videos isn't it haha.

[@PhilippeCarphin]

You were able to shave after the 400? That was unexpected. I was teaching my friend how to sharpen. After doing a knife on a 340 grit DMT stone, I say to him "We're done with this stone, let's see how it cuts. Observe how it feels sharp but that's just because the edge is toothy, watch how there's no way it's going to shave." Well shit, the damn thing shaved.

[@gunny4029]

shouldnt use diamond on the super 3v and other type steel . they leave deep scratches 3v and such are very tough more so than hard. i if looking for doing some flattening i am going to try shapton glass stone

[@PaulK390S90V]

You should check out burrfection channel on KZbin(obviously) He actually makes strops and they are so much better than ones on the market and cheaper too! Rolled buffalo ones and cordivan ones and latiga or something like that. Even a rolled buffalo one that I bought that is super hard and doesn't give. They look amazing quality and I can't wait. I have made my own and bought some too but I'm hoping this one is the last I get! The guys name is Ryky and if you search on his channel for the videos of him making them or showing them he will have a link. They are on etsy I think.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Looks very interesting! I might order one or 2!

[@smokinjoe1256]

i recommend you to keep your ''pressure hand'' in your case the left one always over the stone. if you slip away from the knife you will cut yourself badly in the way you do. if you slip away when your hand is moving over the stone you are safe because the edge under your fingers lays flat on the stone and cant cut you. i hope you understand what im trying to tell you. i have seen some really ugly injuries caused by the tip of the knife.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+smokin Joe I understand perfectly. Sadly you are too late haha. I have cut myself pretty deep some month ago while sharpening. But thanks for warning me anyway :). I'm trying to adjust it but it's kinda hard getting rid of a habit :P

[@smokinjoe1256]

haha shit. i hope it doesnt happen again^^ i like your vids a lot by the way.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks a lot! That's good to hear :).

[@southwalesoutdoors3215]

But Martin! Why didn't you just buy the legendary, always sold out, DBK strop!! ,🤣🤣🤘

[@sran9492]

I wish i can afford one chosera stone, imagine 3 of them

[@UnrealTournament420]

Invest $20 in HEX and you’ll be able to buy as many chosera as your heart desires in 12 months time 🙂

[@AW_77]

If you'd removed the burr after the sharpening you would have been able to go through the paper much more easily.

[@AW_77]

You mention this later in the video. the final results are good.

[@johnfadds6089]

I hate loaded strops. I feel they're for people who can't get a proper edge on the stones so they go convex the edge on the strop because fuck accuracy.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

I don't feel like you should convex on a strop. Make a good convex on your stones and a proper sharp edge. Giving a few strokes on a strop with compound can really give you that little extra sharpness. Also stropping is too slow for a few strokes to adjust the edge angle. Just don't raise the edge higher than you did on sharpening stones

[@jgordon5004]

chosera stones crack be careful

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+J gordon Hello Gordon, thank you for your tip. It is important to make sure the stones are dry when you put them away. You should also avoid soaking the stones. I try to take good care of my chosera's but my 3000 stone has some tiny hair thin cracks. luckily it doesn't affect my sharpening so far.

[@joeking4389]

Could you make a video on how you care for your stones? I've been watching your video on sharping knives to learn how to make my knives sharper, to do a better job.

[@MasterofPlay7]

no shapton? lol Naniwa now produces the professional series which is the same as the chosera but thinner, what a rip off......

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+MasterofPlay7 I love the chosera series. I also have one of the new professional stones. I'm not that happy about the replacement either. I also have 4 shapton ha-no-kuromaku stones. I love them very much. I buy them directly from Japan for a very good price. The stones are very hard and leave a good finish.

[@MasterofPlay7]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives where did you buy them from?

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

MasterofPlay7 diy-tool.com they speak little english but they should understand. I think their prices went up a but but it should still be cheaper.

[@MasterofPlay7]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives thanks for the link, but they don't sell naniwa?

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

nope they only have shapton. I buy my naniwa stones at knivesandtools.com

[@Ray-gu5kp]

Cut a tomatoe my brother not a piece of paper, i can do that with a $10 knive from Walmart