Sharpshooting Sherman Stuff from the Seaside.

Can't a guy get a vacation in peace? No? Two more M4 videos just came out, and I have been referenced in the comments of both. Don't be in such a hurry to get triggered, however, that you miss some of the nuance.
National Museum of Military Vehicle Video Link: • The M4 Sherman Tank: M...
The Tank Museum, Bovington, Video Link: • Evolution of the Sherm...
00:00 I'm on vacation.
00:20 The National Musuem of Military Vehicles.
00:58 "Primarily" =/= "Exclusively"
02:25 The 75 was the best anti-tank gun the US could mount.
02:43 A passing iguana
02:54 Slips of the Tongue
03:19 Tanks don't fight tanks
03:45 Don't forget strategic and operational mobility.
04:15 There were other cat-killers than Ekins
05:20 Conclusion: Both videos are pretty good.
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[@SeattleJeffin]

Next video "Will the Chieftain fit on a jet ski?"

[@stalkingtiger777]

Oh no, my jetski is on fire drill as well 😂. Enjoy your vacation!

[@M4A3Sherman]

That is a question we need an answer to!

[@CAP198462]

Will chieftain fit in a paragliding rig? 🚤 🪂

[@ernstbergerbrent]

I'd watch that

[@robmarsh6668]

A jetski is about as ideal an 'oh no its on fire' vehicle you can get

[@BasicRH]

Hey Chieftain, Hank here from the NMMV. I want to thank you so much for the shoutout here. It was in fact not only my first time being on camera- but also my first time ever writing the script for a video like that. It's a big regret of mine for the occasional slip of the tongue and the few things I left out, like leaving out a big point about moving Shermans overseas. (And don't get me started on pronouncing "LIMA" incorrectly... how could I have known! haha.) Regardless, I've learned a lot from the responses to that video and the reactions of the community. I hope the next vid we make at the NMMV is better as a result. Your complements were very kind, and I appreciate you taking time off your vacation to talk about all this, both me and Bovington. Crazy we posted both our videos at the same time!

[@PatGilliland]

You did a great job!

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Heya Hank! Don't let the comments get to you too much. As I said, slips and honest errors will occur, and folks will make more of them than they really should.

[@dgthe3]

@@TheChieftainsHatch Many people online have their hill they will die on. Only problem is, the unassailable mountain they think they're standing upon is usually just a molehill.

[@thurin84]

(maybe ask a limian, or any west ohian haha)

[@stevewatson6839]

@@dgthe3They are on that hill becuse their Tiger broke. 😉

[@kmoecub]

I shall provide an additional real-world example of the difference between 'primarily' and "exclusively.' The wooden spoon was primarily designed to mix ingredients in the making of things that are tasty to eat, but it was not exclusively used for that purpose as evidenced by the many swats I received from my mother's wooden spoon during my youth.

[@armandorodrigues144]

you can use a more military related example the entrenching tool was primarily designed to help the soldiers with the task in its name, however it is not exclusively used for that purpose and can even be used for hand-to-hand combat

[@markfryer9880]

Ah the wooden spoon! The reason I still flinch when a cutlery drawer is hurriedly opened! My ex wife thought that the flinching was fun to show her sister! PTSD.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Yeah, the wooden spoon was a feature of my parents' house too...

[@halfassedfart]

​@@markfryer9880 man I'm sorry you had to put up with such a person

[@prd6617]

equivalent of wooden spoon on asia would be rubber slipper, primarily used to protect your foot but have secondary use as long range tactical missile

[@Paveway-chan]

"He sells Shermans on the seashore. But the Shermans he sells are Sherman DDs I'm sure" - Tanker's tongue twister

[@davidstill7508]

Thank you for timestamping the iguana.

[@ptonpc]

It's important!

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

Might be wrong, but the comment sections seem to have gone far more bonkers in the last 2 years or something. I basically just get troll or "cheer leading" (for one side) comments. I suspect that a lot of "adults" just stay away from the comment section, I also noted that my pinned comments get very few upvotes, which would also indicate that very few people even look at them.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

A pinned comment hardly requires upvotes, though. They are already up at the top

[@Doomrider47]

Probably the phenomena of people with heads so far up their rectal orifices that they can't get a signal on their phone

[@ArrigoSacchi87]

Big sports team mentality - especially once channels get popular

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

@@TheChieftainsHatch Well, upvotes won't necessarily push comments to the top. Few years ago pinned comments received plenty of upvotes as well, so it seems something has changed if my observations are correct.

[@sydney4814]

Seriously respect how you always have such measured, sensible (and almost lawyerly "attention to the letter") opinions/responses, never any clickbait or fight-picking, just a genuinely enjoyable and informative video (ALSO!! sorry you can't just get a peaceful vacation, this is a bit absurd lmao)

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

I have a law degree. There may be a correlation there...

[@sydney4814]

@@TheChieftainsHatch WAIT WHAAAT??? i've literally watched like... every video you've ever posted and somehow never knew that?! I somehow never would've thought it!(but somehow, it makes a lot of sense when you're always so deliberate with your words/interpreting the intent of others)

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

@@sydney4814 In fairness, the subject doesn't come up very often in tank videos

[@dposcuro]

@@TheChieftainsHatch ...Challenge accepted: Would emissions laws prevent you from swapping an older engine, into a more modern tank? Edit: Please do not respond until you are back from your holiday. Take care, have fun with your family. Rest, relax, and enjoy yourself!

[@dgthe3]

@@dposcuro Emission laws for military vehicles tend to be a bit relaxed vs the civilian world.

[@dustindubbo2892]

I still don’t see why they keep bringing up the burn rates; you’ve said it and I’ve seen more people realizing that if your objective is to shoot a tank till it burns; then it’s gonna burn.

[@WastelandWanderer1216]

Because people still want to believe Death Traps is gospel when it comes to the Sherman.

[@T3hderk87]

I present to you a two word answer that will solve this intractable equation : Historical Momentum.

[@kleinerprinz99]

I'd say it depends on the circumstances and where the round hits the vehicles. There is enough accounts of all crew getting out of a tank when it got disabled and then there are enough accounts were the full crew didnt make it out and the whole tank exploded and the turret was blown off. And then there is the majority of inbetween these to extremes. Several crewmates, atleast one, are injured or killed right away and cannot evacuate the tank an only part of the crew manage to escape and move on from their. A lot of different fates of ordinary peoples who happend to end up in a bad situation.

[@chriscookesuffolk]

I was on the beach watching you make this video and was impressed you neglected to mention you were stuck in cement at the time.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

It didn't seem particularly relevant at the time

[@tripod222]

@@TheChieftainsHatch For the next QA: how does one actually get stuck in cement other than being an extra in a movie? :)

[@DanStarks-em1vj]

Thank you for the shout out to the national museum of military vehicles Chieftain. Please come back to visit again anytime as my guest. Thank you all of your contributions to the military vehicle community. Dan Starks museum founder.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Sir, I'm sure I will at some point. Probably not this year, though. Too many other places already on my list to go film!

[@MatthewMakesAU]

​@@TheChieftainsHatchyou'd have to be pretty quick off the mark to visit this year

[@mattharrell6880]

Why does no one (except chieftain) talk about the SURVIVABILITY of the Sherman? Weren't tankers the combat arm most likely to make it home?

[@bobbyvee9950]

I don't remember which but one of them did talk about the crew going back and getting in another Sherman.

[@jarink1]

it's weird. People have just the opposite opinion of things like the B-17 Flying Fortress, yet HALF of the USAAF's personnel losses in WWII (including 26k KIA) were from the 8th Air Force (B-17s and B-24s operating out of Great Britain.) It's a misunderstanding that's persisted across generations.

[@BrownBagSurprise]

​@@bobbyvee9950 I forget which video but the chieftain has said something to the effect of, "we spent a lot of time training you to use a tank, so go to the depot and get another one".

[@dgthe3]

@@BrownBagSurprise I think that was in reference to the crew's proficiency with small arms. The point being, the most effective way for a tanker to use a rifle is lay down some covering fire as you & your crew go back and get a working tank.

[@tangydiesel1886]

Because fury makes it look like every time a sherman is hit, they go up in flames, and everyone is lost.

[@cattledog901]

Thanks for making this video. After watching The Tank Museums recent video on the Sherman "Was it any good?" I was baffled at the low level myths they kept rattling off about the Sherman. It was extremely disappointing and all I could think was I need Chieftan to debunk this video.

[@XerrolAvengerII]

I think it's mostly a problem of framing. Many videos about the sherman are framed as 'apologizing' for the tanks 'poor performance' with statements like, but it's reliable, or it's cheap to make, or we had 4 times as many, or we had to send it all over the world and couldn't just stick it on a train back to the factory. It's like apologizing for commuter cars being crushable by a monster truck, when a commuter car is objectively a better vehicle 99.9% of the time.

[@HawkTheRed]

The passing Iguana heard you were talking tanks and wanted to listen into what you have to say

[@user-bu2ro8vg8b]

Hody Ho! All of us at Maplins holiday camp are happy you are getting into the true Maplins mindset. Though the only tanks we have are the ones filled with the co2 to push the beer through the pipes to our exclusive bars. Here at Crimpton on sea. The yellow coats will be happy to serve you. Please contact Ted Bovis or Gladix Pugh for more camp details...

[@chaosXP3RT]

It just bugs me that the Sherman tank has been stuck in the mind of the greater public as a poor tank. I genuinely believe the Sherman was the best all-around tank of WWII and its underappreciated. It doesn't help that the History Channel had a record of underselling the Sherman to make the stories more dramatic. But a lot of people are left with the impression that the Sherman only stuck around so long because the US Army was too cheap to make anything better or that the Sherman was only good because it could be mass produced. Now that doesn't mean that Sherman was the best tank for every situation or that other tanks didn't preform certain tasks better than the Sherman, but it's always disappointing when any piece of media reinforces the negative sterotypes of the Sherman in WWII

[@tomhenry897]

Think around in the early 60s Was in my dads soldiers book with the 76mm

[@tasman006]

Totally agreed and with the Bovington vid which I enjoyed didn't elobarate on the Sherman tanks post war which it still excelled. In Korea it did well agianst the Russian supplied T34/85 tank with getting the most tank to loss ratio over the better M26 Pershing and M46 Patton tank. When the Isrealis upgraded them to the M50 and M51 Super Sherman which defeated Soviet T62 MBTs in the 1973 Yom Kuppur war. Used in other conflicts also notable on both side in the Indo Pak wars ect. It was overall a great tank and deserves more respect. During WW2 the US was aware that it would come up agianst tanks and thought that it would only encounter Panzer 3s and Panzer 4s which it did and defeated.

[@dgthe3]

If it makes you feel better, History Channel isn't spreading much bad information about the Sherman anymore. The 'unexplained' (ghosts, aliens, etc) and old junk seems to dominate their lineup now. Not sure what's worse.

[@Paciat]

Its far better now than it was 20 years ago when internet was young. What annoyes me it the "Hetzer was a good vehicle" internet myth. It was a "last ditch" vehicle that was inferior to StuG III and it showed up late in the war (unlike the stuff it is compared to like StugIII, M10 or SU76) alongside Jagdpanther, SU-100, M-18. It wasnt even a good tank destroyer (average describes it better), but at other tasks that Stugs or SU-76 could do it was even worst.

[@cheyannei5983]

I don't know where this perception comes from. In Ohio, my school mascot was a Sherman (of course, the actual tank out front was an M48) and the general perception is that it was good. Of course, we still build Bradleys and Abrams there, so maybe it's just sour grapes from formerly tank-producing states...

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Chieftain becomes crafted from pure obstrontium whenever Shermans are put down and rightly so. Sherman was an ace tank. They might have been shot up a lot but the crews usually got out to fight another day. I heard of one crew that went through three in a day. In fact wasn't that war daddys crew? Im sure I heard that story about them. Anyway thanks for the vid sir.

[@Lo-tf6qt]

I like to imagine that people call Shermans death traps because the crews managed to escape and complain about it, meanwhile over in the Eastern front you don't get as many stories claiming the T-34's lit up like a tinderbox because the crews all died before they could even complain about how "it's a death trap".

[@rapter229]

@@Lo-tf6qt en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

[@Fulcrum205]

Poole lost 3 but not on the same day. 1st was hit by a Pak 40. 2nd was Buddy Spiked by a P-38. 3rd was a Panther in the Hurtgen Forest area IIRC.

[@BSJ-VT]

Soooo happy this ain't a Short!

[@stevevernon1978]

he DID a short of the bit in the middle about Eakins.

[@bumblebeebob]

Thanks for bringing the museums channel to the fore. I interrupted your talk to find them and subscribed. 👍

[@Gorbyrev]

Many happy hours await you!

[@fishingthelist4017]

I will check out the museum in Wyoming when I head that way to see how my decades of Devil's Tower artwork matches up with the real thing.

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

Would just like to say, specifications aren't the end-all, be-all: a tank can have armor as thick as you please, and that doesn't matter much at all if it's being made by somebody who can't weld deep enough to stop the seams from bursting when hit by an HE shell.

[@TheGM-20XX]

I see Sherman video. I watch.

[@LilithTheAbyssalGoddess]

Praise the Sherman! All Hail Our Tanktastic armored vehicle!!

[@osmacar5331]

most of the people who watch you actually understand nuance and semantics of what was said. take me, you taught me an obscene amount of information. also the NA 75mm M3 gun, we loved, because your HE was really effective (and we could tell doctrine to bite us with HE use and distribution) and could better engage infantry. oh and am heading to the tank museum for tankfest 24, if you where to be the at that time, remind me i owe you a pint.

[@dougsundseth6904]

The NMMV is one of the best military museums I've ever been in (and I've been in quite a few, though nothing like as many as our genial host). There are a huge number of vehicles and they're brilliantly restored. It's worth the trip to go there, even if you hate gorgeous scenery. It's about an hour east of Grand Teton NP, btw.

[@oldmangimp2468]

I must say, that was the most erudite and polite impression of Samuel L. Jackson saying "English m-fers! Do you understand it!?" . Keep classy, sir: keep classy.

[@T3hderk87]

As always the calming voice of reason amongst the squabbling unwashed masses. Thank you for taking time out of your vacation, and make sure to poke the iguana with a stick, i hear they love it!

[@cmck472]

Great video, lovely spot. I bet the next location your Mrs picks for a holiday won't have internet 😀

[@Blueboy0316]

Another good example of relative threat is the capture of Tiger 131. It is believed to have been disabled by fire from 6 pounder guns. Those technically should not have been threats and yet they rendered the tank NMC.

[@WhatIfBrigade]

I know gamers want tank vs. tank, but in both WWII and the present day infantry support seems like a crucial role.

[@Fulcrum205]

Bovingtons only book on American armor is "Deathtraps" by Belton Cooper

[@MythicFool]

Always love the level-headed, measured responses to erroneous claims. Enjoy the rest of your vacation, Sir, and have a happy new year.

[@silmarian]

The Wyoming museum is pretty amazing. I didn’t have time to go inside, but they let me wander around their storage area for a while and it was very cool.

[@M4A3Sherman]

I agree with all the points you make, and personally I liked the videos. The M4 is a complex vehicle to understand, and thankfully we are all lucky enough to have you as a leading expert on it. Enjoy your vacation!

[@tythornberry4762]

Good Day Chieftan! Have love your videos for years! I second your motion on visiting the NMMV in Dubois, WY! I've now visited twice, and having grown up visiting the various Smithsonian museums, i can assure all your viewers that the NMMV is a world class armour destination. Plan on an entire day. Yes, there is that much to see and take in. Dont worry about food and tasty adult beverages, their Canteen has an excellent selection of both! Seriously, go visit ill be back for a tird time this summer. Cant wait!

[@murrayscott9546]

Like thst back-drop ! Wish you and yours are havvin alittle merry. As much as you want or need.

[@corvanphoenix]

Looks like you're in Australia! Either way, hope you're having a great holiday mate.

[@dennisvandermarkt8263]

Keep everyone in check chieftain. Love this stuff

[@stevemondal.]

Thanks for your postings. Thanks for your service. A law degree too, you are a worker. Wait, also help on a online game. Hell yeah. Happy New Year. Hope you enjoyed the vacation. Thanks again.

[@frankbarnwell____]

Happy new years Chieftain

[@kleinerprinz99]

Cat killing wasnt that difficult anyways : The Wehrmacht had pamphlets/operations guides and diagrams for their tankers informing them about the strength and warning them about the weaknessess of their tanks. The same goes for enemy tanks. And that includes their weakness or not towards artillery concerning roof/top armour. As did the Air Forces have diagrams of enemy bombers and airplanes, first of all to identify them and then knowing their strong and weak spots. Happy New Year!!! PS: Military History (Not) Visualised has good videos about it with sources and you can even buy the manuals for yourself. They translated them into English. PPS: I totes agree about strategic value > tactical value. Again HM(N)V has great videos about the end of the 2nd world war where on the Wehrmacht side on many, many occasions they, lower echelon, had tactical victories but it didnt matter in the grand scheme of things. Cheers :) PPPS: Maybe people should watch more German movies from the 1950s like "Die Brücke" and "Die Mörder sind unter Uns" and the interviews British journalists did among the german population in the early 1930s and their general anti war mood.

[@f1matt]

Always appreciate the thoughtful insight.

[@petesheppard1709]

Thanks for a very thoughtful commentary. 😎Always worth the click.

[@martincurran-gray2287]

Happy New Year Mr. chieftain , hope you had a great Holiday

[@GenderSkins]

Sadly Chieftain, that is never going to happen with the vast majority of people. There are always going to be people that hear what they wanna hear, and pick up half the conversation. You know that, I know that and so do the very people who hear half what is being said. But thank you for putting this video out, and correcting some thing that people misunderstood. As you are right, saying something was mostly done, usually done and sometimes done is not saying it was exclusively done X way.

[@thegodofhellfire]

Enjoy your vacation and happy new year!

[@memonk11]

What a hellish landscape from which you were recording. Look out for the murderous iguanas!

[@MajesticDemonLord]

There is an Irishman at the beach, in Summer. *Ready the Sun-Burn Kit* But jokes aside - Merry Christmas Chieftain, thanks again for a year filled with insightful and entertaining videos - hope you are having a grand old time with your family.

[@biggene5786]

oh no the Chieftain is on fire

[@douglarse]

Got to say you changed my opinion on the Sherman after watching one of your talks a few years ago, think it was "Myths of American armour" or something like that. Enjoy the holiday.

[@nekophht]

I do enjoy that video. I go back every now and then to rewatch it. For me, I think it might've been his Chieftain's Hatch articles for WoT that started changing my view of the Sherman and the various myths surrounding it.

[@Toxked]

The Chieftain has spoken. Step down from battle stations.

[@ConeOfArc]

I really hope that one day the myths surrounding the Sherman can be dispelled for good. Unfortunately it often feels like an uphill battle because for every video discussing the myths you have a dozen which just repeat the same claims we've seen for decades. It's hard to even criticize the people making them because many rely on a fairly surface level knowledge of tanks in general so it's understandable why they make those mistakes.

[@rmurphy3435]

Excellent, Happy New Year!

[@chadjustice8560]

Maybe I'm not recalling correctly but wasn't it determined that ekins wouldn't have even been able to see the germans and it was actually a Canadian unit with 75mm tanks that did the killing?

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

I think the going conclusion is that Ekins killed three of the four Tigers, and the Canadian 75s killed the fourth, the one crewed by Wittmann.

[@chadjustice8560]

@@TheChieftainsHatch thank you sir, I remember more with that. That's what they determined that he couldn't see wittmann.

[@yashkasheriff9325]

@@TheChieftainsHatchFor more information if anybody needs it as an addition to this: Wittmann's tank, 007, was rolling up basically paralleling Highway N158 (also referred to as the Route Nationale) next to the Sherbrooke Fusiliers position at ~200 yards. The Highway is in a slight depression, while the other three Tigers from 101st SS Heavy Tanks (Dollinger's 009, Iriohn's 314, and Kister's 312) are on a slight elevation in the adjacent field off to his right. Radley-Walters and the Sherbrookes deal with the immediate threat first (some StuGs in the south + Wittmann), Ekins and the Yeomanry take care of theirs (the three Tigers). 101st SS Heavy Tanks basically wandered into a killbox. Not the first time they lost several Tigers to killboxes - the first was Villers Bocage on the counterattack because Wittmann's lunge up the main street pissed everybody off, and two Tiger companies arrived into a prepared ambush.

[@FB-qp8eo]

So well said! We could use some grace with regard to possible mistakes and some politeness for people who are providing free content, and most importantly, we could take a few minutes to PONDER the point of view of the creators, and the context they are highlighting before firing off angry flames. Give peopel the benefit of the doubt…or make your own videos that are better, and so perfect that they are immune to criticism. Well done Chieftain and enjoy your well-deserved vacation.

[@ernstbergerbrent]

I sincerely hope you get to be a consultant for the next American MBT. SME is a gross understatement when referring to your knowledge of tanks/armored vehicles.

[@lewiswestfall2687]

Thanks Nick

[@leeharveyosmond]

Yes yes yes fine video. Now, where was that beach? Hope you're on a percentage. I have already seen the Tank Museum video; i must now track down the other

[@kleinerprinz99]

See them side skirts on the Panthers? They still needed them on the Eastern Front because of how effective and plenty the soviet anti tank rifles were. The side armour in the wheel base was not much better than an up-armoured Panzer IV or Tiger I. A tank is a compromise, as any vehicle, be it an aircraft, or a ship. Should not over- or underestimate it. Should not observe it in a vaccuum.

[@gallendugall8913]

The comment section is often silly. Iguana! 🦎 I wish I was in Tijuana eating barbequed iguana.

[@Executioner9000]

"We don't go there, 'tis a silly place!"

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Listening to Mexican Radio?

[@gallendugall8913]

@@TheChieftainsHatch I understand just a little, no comprende it's a riddle.

[@stevevernon1978]

I can "hear" that comment!

[@kanrakucheese]

On the Firefly vs. Standard: Each incarnation of In the Mood had the normal gun. I don't think Pool found his gun to be insufficient.

[@Fulcrum205]

His 2nd and 3rd tanks were 76mm Shermans according to 3rd Armored Div history

[@johnnieangel99]

I tend to call people like you are describing rivet counters.

[@danielbackley9301]

I take it you're a model train buff as well? Those guys could drive anyone nuts.

[@johnnieangel99]

Scale Modelling. Mostly Militaria @@danielbackley9301 But yes, I enjoy the idea of building a train garden one day. In the proper scale to add some of my military pieces to

[@nickbrew7037]

take a day off enjoy your holiday🎉 tanks for watching

[@DC.409]

It’s back to the Golden Circle, WHY we are doing something, then HOW we intend to do it , finally with WHAT!. Unfortunately too much focus has been on the WHAT of Sherman, without considering the strategic WHY or operational HOW. This approach applies to its manufacturing and operational deployment. The key line from Bovington was it was the right tank, at the right time, at the right location. The western desert, Pacific and Burma (the British did send them to the sub continent) Sherman was unmatched and supreme, the Lee/Grant having paved the way. Western Europe was tougher but it performed exceptionally, where only 14% of action was tank on tank, that’s why you brought Firefly Achilles and finally the Sherman 76mm, though it needed the better ammunition. Given European geographical topography, combat ranges were limited to around 500 yards therefore the German gun range advantage is negated. Consequently, Sherman, Cromwell and indeed Churchill had manoeuvrability and serviceability advantages over Panther and to a lesser extent Panzer IV and Jagdpanzers, particularly when you have a Wehrmacht with Eastern war experience trying to understand and adapt to fighting in the confines of Normandy and failing. I ignored Tigers involvement, serviceability was poor, they were relative small in numbers. Apart from the Wehrmachts 503 Abteilung which had limited success, it performed badly.

[@vodkasrups]

what ? i'm sure you made some good points but the back ground noise did my head in !🤣

[@davidjhall5315]

What a beautiful view. Just look at how clean the ocean.

[@HappyDuude]

Those chinos are absolutely rocking clean lines! Happy new year all!

[@AmazingAce]

NMMV is an incredible museum and Dan Starks is the nicest man you will ever meet. If you ever see him there you gotta say hello.

[@ketchman8299]

Well said Sir.

[@jamietynanjt]

Sat next to my wife listening to this and she heard "killed 2 tigers and a panther' and didn't realise Nick was talking about tanks. Nearly got an earful about the cruelty of big game hunting 😂

[@JagerLange]

Skeggy's looking great for December. Or, at all.

[@ralphe5842]

When the Sherman came out it’s gun was considered very effective anti-tank gun

[@tor6684]

That doesn't look like Ireland, actually, not even Texas... probably the west coast of Sweden. Anyway, Happy New Year, Chieftain!

[@jonesy279]

“I do like to tank beside the seaside, I do like to tank beside the seeeeeeeeeaa!”

[@matchesburn]

3:18 The next time you sit down and have a chat with the guys at Bovington about things like "tank destroyers weren't supposed to fight tanks" thing... could you also bring up another issue with them about how they keep referring to the Sherman as a "Tommy Cooker" or "Zippo" like they did in that recent video. (And, by the way, it was even worse. There was a Facebook post by Bovington just a little over a year ago where they... yes... called the Shermans a "Ronson"... Despite you disproving that back in like 2015...)

[@stevevernon1978]

The way I remember the story is "Tommy cooker" is something the Germans called dead British tanks in North Africa, whether they were British made or US made. because when hit, they caught fire. The German tanks did EXACTLY the same thing when hit, and at approximately the same rate. But the Germans avoided talking about the tanks their mates were killed in.

[@willcullen3743]

Well its the perception of how the brits structure the discussion. The 75mm fired primarily HE rounds they say. However the exclude the fact the 2 and 6 pounders had a ineffective HE rounds, the 75mm was a better anti tank gun than the 2 or 6 pounders and The British troops perfered the sherman in the field because of theHE capability. The also forget to mention the 6 pounder guns that were boared out to accept american 75mm rounds ...

[@nickdanger3802]

Enhancing Firepower: The Churchill Mk IV-NA 75 Tank Modification kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZnOkIh9eMp5itE

[@liamhelot8307]

as the Chieftain is on vacation right now, todays episode is presented by the Captain.

[@nickdanger3802]

When you talk to the lads at The Tank Museum ask them to fix the "misinformation" on their Lend Lease page. "In late 1941 President Roosevelt signed the Lend-Lease Act allowing the British, who were effectively bankrupt, to effectively hire the tanks and other materiel they required from the US. The resulting debt, which ran into many billions of pounds, was only settled by the British Government in 2006." "Over the whole period from March 1941 to September 1945, the balance in favour of the United States in the mutual aid books24 was in round terms about $21,000 millions. But by the settlement of 1945 Britain was required to pay no more than $650 millions, or £162 millions sterling." page 547 Hyperwar British War Economy

[@Ben-fk9ey]

I don't know where you've got only $21 million from? In 2006 the last payment to the US was apparently £42.5 million. Also it's confusing as to what you want them to correct? You've just put in two quotes and haven't said what's wrong with either of them?

[@nickdanger3802]

@@Ben-fk9ey "$21,000 millions" is 21 billion. United States: War Loans to UK HL Deb 27 May 2002 vol 635 cc126-7WA127WA Lord Laird asked Her Majesty's Government: Whether they owe money to the United States Government as a result of World War Two debt: if so, how much is owed; when it will be repaid; and what representation they have made to the United States Government concerning the debt being cancelled. [HL4422] Lord McIntosh of Haringey Under a 1945 agreement, the United States Government lent the United Kingdom a total of $4,336 million (around £1,075 million at 1945 exchange rates) in war loans. These loans were taken out under two facilities: (i) a line of credit of $3,750 million (around £930 million at 1945 exchange rates); and (ii) a lend-lease loan facility of $586 million (around £145 million at 1945 exchange rates), which represented the settlement with the United States for lend-lease and reciprocal aid and for the final settlement of the Financial claims of each government against the other arising out of the conduct of the Second World War. Under the agreement the loans would be repaid in 50 annual instalments commencing in 1950. However, the agreement allowed deferral of annual payments of both principal and interest if necessary because of prevailing international exchange rate conditions and the level of the United Kingdom's foreign currency and gold reserves. The United Kingdom has deferred payments on six occasions. Repayment of the war loans to the United States Government should therefore he completed on 31 December 2006, subject to the United Kingdom not choosing to exercise its option to defer repayment. As at 31 March 2001, principal of $346,287,953 (£243,573,154 at the exchange rate on that day) was outstanding on the loans provided by the United States Government in 1945. The Government intend to meet their obligations under the 1945 agreement by repaying the United States Government in full the amounts lent in 1945 and so no representation has been made.

[@nickdanger3802]

UNITED STATES FORCES, UNITED KINGDOM HC Deb 18 December 1956 vol 562 cc1099-100 (EDIT) Lieut.- Colonel Bromley-Davenport While everyone regrets any anti-American feeling in this country, are not hon. Gentlemen opposite the last people to criticise, seeing that Socialism was financed by the American Loan and that all the thanks the Americans got from the Opposition was to be called "shabby moneylenders"? The Prime Minister On the whole, I think my answer was comprehensive and correct. It was just "Yes".

[@nickdanger3802]

@@Ben-fk9ey "many billions of pounds" At 1945 rates 20 billion USD equaled 4 billion pounds. ARTICLE V The Government of the United Kingdom will return to the United States of America at the end of the present emergency, as determined by the President, such defense articles transferred under this Agreement as shall not have been destroyed, lost or consumed and as shall be determined by the President to be useful in the defense of the United States of America or of the Western Hemisphere or to be otherwise of use to the United States of America. Yale Law Lend lease page

[@thomasbernecky2078]

Chieftain: Big rum punches, with tiny umbrellas. Tanks!

[@MGB-learning]

Great video

[@hughbarton5743]

I agree 100% with Sydney 2814. There is a fine, scholarly tone to your work that separates you from the hordes of clickbait generators that swamp this piece of the interwebs. Your work is commendable. Advice to all viewers: if the knucklehead you are viewing can not be bothered to learn how to pronounce words, even if they are not native speakers of the language in question, they are not worthy of your time. The other day, I tuned into some dope's video in re: "guns of the old west" who, literally, mispronounced a fairly common word: "Colt"... Look: Asian languages can be tricky, German produces compound words that are 27 letters long...I get it. But: " Colt "??? Really????

[@alanbrown5593]

Is that a very small beach or are you really tall ? A safe, happy and prosperous new year to you and your family.

[@WWFanatic0]

Ah Chieftain when will you learn. People will only bother you when it's actually a bother. That's just a law of the universe. Also if you're expecting people to have proper reading/listening comprehension on the internet...well that's Charlie Brown and the football.

[@jpc6235]

Greetings from the Old Country, Nicholas ! Jaziz, can a man not get even get a break at Christmas ? best wishes, J

[@rich453]

for the novice both the Sherman videos were fine, after all if they inspire curiosity and further research then all the better. Enjoy your vacation

[@kevinruble6858]

Kind of proof the point that no matter what tank you have, who ever fires first WINS

[@stevevernon1978]

Especially if you are firing at a Tiger with a 37mm ! I don't know if it was a Tiger I or a King Tiger, don't know if it was a Stuart or an M8 armored car (I've heard of this story both ways)... . . . AND YES THEY KILLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!

[@thomaswhipple5038]

Oh bugger. The jet ski is on fire!

[@196cupcake]

... and now I have another tank KZbin channel to follow, National Museum of Military Vehicles.

[@CrazyKitBuilder]

I did watch both videos but other way round because I have little bell 🔔 turn on

[@lhkraut]

It really is sad that so many people hear one thing, but take it out of context, or they just ignore the nuance of what is said. It is a wonder that humanity hasn't destroyed itself yet when you consider how people act talking about a subject like this. If you have a disagreement, it doesn't require looking down on someone and trying to make them look foolish. When you act this way, the only person who looks foolish is you. Sir Chieftain, enjoy your vacation!

[@davidmeek8017]

Hau'oli Makahiki Hou Nick!

[@stamfordly6463]

Ho-di-ho. What time is the knobbly-knees contest?

[@robertl6196]

2:47 LOOK OUT! It's a tiny Komodo Dragon!

[@elstevobevo]

Nick is the adult in the room.

[@bebo4807]

Ha! I know that beach! Chieftain is on vacation at Throggs Neck beach in Long Island. That is Buster Point in the background.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Long Island is known for its wild iguana population?

[@sergentcolon1]

I wonder how many non British viewers will get the “hi de hi campers” reference 😁

[@sylvainvanduyl6143]

Good video. I think the way you look at military equipment specifically is a healthy way. you put aside myths, you debunk overly negative messages and you also put overly positive messages in the right place. I think that Bovington have not had a think tank for too long, where those who think 'differently' could have their say. sometimes it's just hard to explain something well or to keep a myth out of it. Also also, I think that some changes in the Bovington chanal haven't been the best the last few years. I like the way you tell or explain something. and some (new sections of some) channels are missing that. A last minute add: the problem of making a Sherman video now a days, is that you are not the first to make a video of the Sherman... So, what do you tell about that hump of iron what is new. And how do you bring facts. There are so much stories about the tank and what is true and what is false. What is twisted and overdone. Making a Sherman tank video is a different challenge and a responsibility to keep it fair.

[@larshenrik8900]

What was your slip up during the myths of american armour video?

[@ihcfn]

It's situational.

[@user-cc9ny9el8x]

Out of topic, chief what is different between T series and XM series in US tank designation? I know XM stand for Experimental but not so much about T series. And why did US not use T designation anymore?

[@robertsolomielke5134]

"Tommy cooker" by the Germans who saw it burning a lot. Crew maybe get out in time ?

[@TNickel555]

Perhaps to enlighten everyone further, the Chieftain could do a video about the vulnerability and effectiveness of the Sherman in Israeli service.

[@saoirseewing4877]

The FLAK 18 was "primarily" intended as an AA gun. So there's that.