The 1776 Report

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Shaun

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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 3 жыл бұрын
If "1776 report" is so good, why is there no "1777 report"?
@righteyeblind23666
@righteyeblind23666 3 жыл бұрын
if the 1776 report is good, why is there no "1776, the 1619 strikes back"
@AllMustJump
@AllMustJump 3 жыл бұрын
We need a “Fallout 76 report”.
@gga2344
@gga2344 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@FieldMarshalYT
@FieldMarshalYT 3 жыл бұрын
Need a 1778 report with that too.
@jameswilley6722
@jameswilley6722 3 жыл бұрын
I see you both here and on many a true nerd’s channel and I can’t help but wonder if the Venn diagram of our KZbin subscriptions is just a circle
@Ogoner
@Ogoner 3 жыл бұрын
As a student studying for a degree in history I find it incredibly validating that the highest office of American government produces worse work than I do
@sharkofjoy
@sharkofjoy 3 жыл бұрын
Well I feel like the purple hearts, everything from this era needs a dagger in the margin.
@elvellarambles9151
@elvellarambles9151 3 жыл бұрын
1) I’m positive you do great work and you should have confidence in it 2) ‘highest office of American government’ when Trump was holding that office at the time ... is not a very high bar
@onemadhungrynomad
@onemadhungrynomad 3 жыл бұрын
lol only under trump tho, but still yeah i think a grade schooler could do better work.
@mariussielcken
@mariussielcken 3 жыл бұрын
The work is very good propaganda.
@sd8313
@sd8313 3 жыл бұрын
LilBabushka is that you
@PhilosophyTube
@PhilosophyTube 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely excellent! Another banger!
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 3 жыл бұрын
First
@alexantone5532
@alexantone5532 3 жыл бұрын
TRUE
@marchdarkenotp3346
@marchdarkenotp3346 3 жыл бұрын
Yooooo!
@m.f.3347
@m.f.3347 3 жыл бұрын
queen
@dansman1729
@dansman1729 3 жыл бұрын
Transtifa pride4lyfe
@rowandoyle7
@rowandoyle7 3 жыл бұрын
MLK gets the same treatment as Jesus of Nazareth from conservatives; useful as a symbol, but their actual words get completely ignored.
@woaddragon
@woaddragon 3 жыл бұрын
Good point
@stone-hand
@stone-hand 3 жыл бұрын
Well, in the end, they both were eversive political leaders trying to make trouble for their legitimate governments, good with words but ultimately unconscionable for any true conservative.
@srslydoatm9251
@srslydoatm9251 3 жыл бұрын
🤔
@TheReaverOfDarkness
@TheReaverOfDarkness 3 жыл бұрын
“Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will.” -Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
@googlefashists4986
@googlefashists4986 3 жыл бұрын
Bollocks, If mlk was around today he would be called an uncle tom by the idiot leftists. And I would say what you know about Jesus could be written on a stamp.
@michaelfraser1073
@michaelfraser1073 3 жыл бұрын
No bibliography and no citations. That's how you know it's a good piece of well-reaserched historical writing.
@ClaudiaNW
@ClaudiaNW 3 жыл бұрын
Who needs facts and evidence when you have vibes? What matters is whether it *feels* true.
@Sorrelhas
@Sorrelhas 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClaudiaNW The Virgin "The evidence suggests", "My sources imply" VS The Chad "I think", "I know a guy from volleyball practice that said this"
@metalDCM8
@metalDCM8 3 жыл бұрын
Like wtf, I even reference my sources on KZbin
@iexist1300
@iexist1300 3 жыл бұрын
I think whoever wrote the report probably needs to go back to 3rd grade.
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sorrelhas - Don't forget the galaxy-brained, "lots of people are saying this".
@LisaJane11709
@LisaJane11709 3 жыл бұрын
I just know some homeschool mom printed the entire document and is using it as her American History textbook I can feel it in my bones
@chandler224
@chandler224 3 жыл бұрын
Was homeschooled, can confirm some mom would use this.
@Sound_Judgement
@Sound_Judgement 3 жыл бұрын
They don’t need to; our public schools in the U.S. are almost as bad to be honest. Honestly, several of the smartest people I know were homeschooled, because they were able to avoid this kind of BS and get the kind of education they wanted/needed rather than be stuck with what was offered by our severely underfunded schools.
@aztektheultimatewoman
@aztektheultimatewoman 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a frightening thought.
@Cool_Calm_Cam
@Cool_Calm_Cam 3 жыл бұрын
Homeschooling should be illegal tbqh. *EDIT:* I should absolutely clarify that I do not think homeschooling should be banned *right now,* but once a robust, equitable, easily accessible public school system were made available to every child. As in, once we stop tying public school funding to property taxes for some godforsaken reason, at least here in the U.S.A.
@chandler224
@chandler224 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cool_Calm_Cam As much as I dislike homeschooling, I disagree. I got the best education possible, since my rural school district is terrible and my parents couldn't afford private schools. I do agree that there needs to be more regulation and oversight though, like a lot more.
@davidthewhale7556
@davidthewhale7556 3 жыл бұрын
I love the head cannon that Shaun is a random skull with glasses in an autumnal forest that gives lectures to people passing by
@srslydoatm9251
@srslydoatm9251 3 жыл бұрын
Skull of Wisdom?
@peterprime2140
@peterprime2140 3 жыл бұрын
Vengarl from Dark Souls 2? Hbomb would be proud.
@Eudaletism
@Eudaletism 3 жыл бұрын
Someone call the SCP Foundation.
@coronin8587
@coronin8587 3 жыл бұрын
That is so something I'm putting in a D&D campaign.
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 3 жыл бұрын
@@coronin8587 A mimir.
@heathercalun4919
@heathercalun4919 3 жыл бұрын
"What to a Slave is the Fourth of July?" is one of the greatest middle-fingers of a speech in American history.
@cremetangerine82
@cremetangerine82 2 жыл бұрын
Right? I want it tattooed on my back!
@heathercalun4919
@heathercalun4919 2 жыл бұрын
@@cremetangerine82 That's a lot of ink. Hope you aren't saving room for any other speech!
@cremetangerine82
@cremetangerine82 2 жыл бұрын
@@heathercalun4919 I’m fat, so I have a lot of back space!
@heathercalun4919
@heathercalun4919 2 жыл бұрын
@@cremetangerine82 I guess if you lose weight, it will become the abridged version.
@cremetangerine82
@cremetangerine82 2 жыл бұрын
@@heathercalun4919 Ha!
@amiradar6845
@amiradar6845 3 жыл бұрын
"Dear liberals, You claim slavery is a large part of the history of our country, but... uuuhhh... uuuummmm... Curious." -Charlie Kirk
@chaosvii
@chaosvii 3 жыл бұрын
It’s something he has a lot of problems with, but lacks the muscular thinking needed to cross the finish line.
@olufade11
@olufade11 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaosvii truly skinny thinking imo
@cadethumann8605
@cadethumann8605 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, both republicans and democrats have done questionable, if not f-ed up, shit in the past and still do to this day. I am sick of people on either side pointing fingers at each other and belittling one another. Nowadays, it seems like we are trying to choose the lesser evil, which is an extremely hard and miserable choice (I may have voted for Biden against trump, but I am weary about what he will do).
@davidstorrs
@davidstorrs 3 жыл бұрын
It's true that both parties have done bad things, but that doesn't change the fact that the Republicans are the problem. They have been moving right for decades and are now into outright fascist territory. They are anti-science -- how many Congressional climate change deniers do you see who aren't Republicans? They are actively harming the nation by telling their followers not to wear masks and that Covid isn't a big deal. *Half a million people are dead*, and it's on Trump. The vast majority of those people would be alive today if we had simply handled it like the civilized countries did -- a relatively short lockdown right away, everyone wears masks and follows social distancing. That's it. That's literally all we needed to do in order to save multiple hundreds of thousands of people. That's leaving aside the fact that they have been preventing the government from helping people via health care or other social programs, stealing Supreme Court seats, packing the federal judiciary, implementing Christian nationalism in every way possible, suppressing voters of color, and ruining the public education system because they know that the less educated people are the more likely they are too vote Republican. Yes, both parties have problems but let's not pretend that there's an equivalence.
@cadethumann8605
@cadethumann8605 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidstorrs I understand and agree with many of your complaints. However, I really hate the whole debate between parties AND people who side with said parties (like on the internet) where they try arguing on who is more wrong/worse. As far as I am concerned, the most sane position I find is to see that both sides have good points but are also misguided and that instead of fighting, they must reach a compromise. In addition, I don't like the idea of assuming that everyone in a party (democrat or republican, right or left, or just about any people with a shared ideology or cause) thinks the same. I am frustrated when I see people online who accuse anyone who leans with democrats as blindly loyal and supportive of bad things that party is associated with. I am also not happy when people do the same thing with republicans. My parents were once registered as republicans but they despised Trump to the point where they switched to democrat just to vote him out. Even Republican party members are not excluded from being targets of Trump's supporters, such as Mike Pence who was threatened with being hanged by the capitol rioters. I am also sure that there were many Republicans (again, be they politicians or civilians) who disagreed with the casual approach to the virus. In other words, people are not a monolith. To be honest, the thing that I am most scared about with politics is one who fights monsters can easily become a monster. There is a reason why there are so many stories in fiction as well as real life where one starts off with noble intentions and ends up becoming radical when he/she is not careful. I find myself sometimes cursing out people in politics in private before catching my anger and restoring my reason. Because of this, I try to avoid viewing one side as completely evil while ignoring the sins of the opposing side, so I try to be more balanced.
@duxnihilo
@duxnihilo 3 жыл бұрын
"Patriotic Education" is the kind of overt fascism that sends chills down my spine.
@mizjulio
@mizjulio 3 жыл бұрын
I know, in my history degree we cross studied older textbooks throughout 1900s into 2010s, and it's barely improved from nationalistic lies and whitewashing, but still improved. It chilled me how the 1776 report wants to undo even the little progress made
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 3 жыл бұрын
A Turtle doesn't approve of Patriotic Education
@jorgealbertohernandezgutie7696
@jorgealbertohernandezgutie7696 3 жыл бұрын
@Aryan Nationalist They are not trying to talk about the greatness of the country, they are trying to hide the bad stuff. They are not saying "This country does not accept racism anymore and that's something great", they are acting like it never did
@mr.goblin6039
@mr.goblin6039 3 жыл бұрын
@Aryan Nationalist The 1776 Report isnt education; its propaganda, and lazily done one with not factual historical knowledge, credible or actual historians or experts involved, or even good or factual sources being used for it. I get that someone with a username like yours doesn’t give a shit, is only being a waste of air in the comments and is fine with in your face bullshit propaganda, but it has to be said.
@minskghoul
@minskghoul 3 жыл бұрын
@@jorgealbertohernandezgutie7696 I hope you don't expect someone named 'Aryan Nationalist' to have an ability to actually listen to others.
@rolfs2165
@rolfs2165 3 жыл бұрын
One group of Founding Fathers: "We want to abolish slavery." The other group of Founding Fathers: "We want to keep slavery." So they compromised, kept slavery and protected it against abolishing. _That's not a fucking compromise!_
@whichcache2517
@whichcache2517 3 жыл бұрын
I think what they meant (assuming they've thought this far) is that slavery was something that wasn't negotiable back then because if they tried to abolish it, they would fail at unifying the colonies into a single nation (this was back when each colony had different currencies). I'm not saying they shouldn't have tried, though.
@BenGrem917
@BenGrem917 3 жыл бұрын
@@whichcache2517 Many of them owned and made a great deal of profit from slaves. Jefferson once spoke of what the greatest profit from slavery is. It's selling children. New slaves. They make you the biggest mint. Therein the founding fathers, some, forcefully bred human beings and kidnapped their children to be sold off and forever estranged from their families just for that sweet, sweet pocket change. I don't think the political will was in favor of abolition in those discussions, not remotely. Our 'greatest general' had a plantation. Most the men of import and wealth owned at least one slave. The Vermonters wouldn't even deign to join the US, they thought it such a greedy and tyrannical nation. It wasn't until they had no choice that Vermont consented to join the US, nearly a decade after the US was founded!
@kaiserproductions1278
@kaiserproductions1278 3 жыл бұрын
No, it was a compromise. The pro-slavery wanted to expand slavery which was outright denyed.
@Moonninja420
@Moonninja420 3 жыл бұрын
It was a state by state thing...
@Philbert-s2c
@Philbert-s2c 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaiserproductions1278 Except that it wasn't. Slavery continued to expand into new states until it became clear that the Northern dominated House of Representatives wasn't going to put up with it anymore. Hence the South trying to leave the Union.
@JeremyCoatney
@JeremyCoatney 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m not sure what we can learn from that apart from the fact that the 1619 Project is clearly occupying space in what we can charitably refer to as President’s mind.” Really made me laugh
@origrammar
@origrammar Жыл бұрын
Shaun truly is one of the most legendary creators of low-key burns in YT history.
@TheIntenseLime
@TheIntenseLime 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine enforcing an entire education curriculum with the intention of purposely painting a specific narrative of history, and then turning around and saying "facts don't care about your feelings".
@sneer0101
@sneer0101 3 жыл бұрын
They're indoctrinated from birth. The fact they make children pledge allegiance to a flag just shows how brainwashed they are.
@this.is.spencer
@this.is.spencer 3 жыл бұрын
@@sneer0101 hey that's my indoctrination you're talking about >:( not wrong tho
@FlexingtonSquare
@FlexingtonSquare 3 жыл бұрын
Love the name
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 3 жыл бұрын
They're just not good faith actors.
@UnfortunatelyTheHunger
@UnfortunatelyTheHunger 3 жыл бұрын
That's because they (wrongly) assume that the earlier something is taught in school (or more exactly, the earlier it was was taught to *them*), the more self-evident it must be. Modern science may have peer-reviewed papers on the bimodal distribution of sex characteristics, or on the complex inner workings of the human brain that actually vary more between two given individuals than between the averages of two demographics (say, between men & women, or europeans & africans), but conservatives have *eyes*. They see man, they see woman, and if you disagree with those perceptions, you must clearly be trying to brainwash them
@L0LWTF1337
@L0LWTF1337 3 жыл бұрын
"The other thing that I want you to understand is this: It didn’t cost the Nation ONE PENNY to integrate lunch counters . It didn’t cost the nation ONE PENNY to guarantee the right to vote. Now we are dealing with issues that cannot be solved without the nation spending BILLIONS & undergoing a RADICAL REDISTRIBUTION OF ECONOMIC POWER." - Martin Luther King one month before he was assassinated.
@jasondaveries9716
@jasondaveries9716 3 жыл бұрын
MLK is the opposite of all the other figures you're taught to venerate in middle school. Most of them, the more you learn the more flawed and bad they seem, but with him the more you learn about his beliefs the better he seems
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 3 жыл бұрын
Rather convenient of the 1776 project to extol MLK's supposed "colorblind" activism while omitting that he was killed for it.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 жыл бұрын
Also, that very quote of MLK that the 1776 report cites, in which he says the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were a promissory note of liberty for all Americans? In the very next line, he pointed out that America had defaulted on that promise.
@BenGrem917
@BenGrem917 3 жыл бұрын
It's a damn good speech, 'A Time to Break Silence'. It moved me when I first heard it. Fire.
@snapgab
@snapgab 3 жыл бұрын
@@LisaBeergutHolst they even have the gall to pretend like everyone agreed with MLK...
@baguettegott3409
@baguettegott3409 3 жыл бұрын
Easily the worst Hamilton Fanfiction I have read.
@allyabernathy4098
@allyabernathy4098 3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment.
@timfirst3536
@timfirst3536 3 жыл бұрын
Could have used a love story.
@baguettegott3409
@baguettegott3409 3 жыл бұрын
@@timfirst3536 Indeed it could have. For all the mentions of Jefferson, we as readers don't really get a good insight into his true feelings for his male coworkers here. Very disappointing.
@jurtra9090
@jurtra9090 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander Hamilton?
@notrod5341
@notrod5341 3 жыл бұрын
Jefferson isn't even in a miku binder smh
@waterfrogs
@waterfrogs 3 жыл бұрын
I was called intellectually dishonest by my dad this weekend for trying to explain that racism is a systemic issue in the USA. I didnt have the words or knowledge to effectively argue against him and he used it as an excuse to insult my character. Thanks for the video. I appreciate your work!
@captaincomic8678
@captaincomic8678 3 жыл бұрын
Your dad's a smart man, wonder how you turned out so goddamn stupid.
@waterfrogs
@waterfrogs 3 жыл бұрын
@@captaincomic8678 lol
@Sara3346
@Sara3346 3 жыл бұрын
Are you actually a troll? Or do you really believe that no one with power in the United States benefits from division and racism?
@lucess169
@lucess169 3 жыл бұрын
@@captaincomic8678 lol
@GIR177
@GIR177 3 жыл бұрын
@@captaincomic8678 Pot calling the kettle black there, and would probably lynch the kettle if you had the chance. Get a life.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 3 жыл бұрын
This is why it's so shameful that for a lot of people, MLK Jr. has been reduced to a broadly-agreeable, generic "racism is bad" figure, leaving out his strong and redistributionist views.
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
"Racism is bad" Crowd cheers "Let's do something about it" Crowd: "hold up"
@joshuajames6481
@joshuajames6481 3 жыл бұрын
He was a socialist
@spinecho609
@spinecho609 3 жыл бұрын
literally happened the second he was dead. Alot of politicians had the foresight to attend his funeral, including ones who wanted him imprisoned for those views.
@genieglasslamp5028
@genieglasslamp5028 3 жыл бұрын
He was literally a radical socialist. Seeing people say he would be a Republican in our time makes me want to swallow nails.
@cooldude6651
@cooldude6651 3 жыл бұрын
They're even trying to do it to Fred Hampton now, taking his "fight fire with water" quote and leaving out the part about socialism entirely.
@voidify3
@voidify3 3 жыл бұрын
The bit where he reads aloud a transcript of a trump interview and starts cracking up was gold. Like when you remove the fast-talking blind confidence with which trump rambles and repeats himself and throws sentence fragments around, when you just read the man's words aloud in a serious intonation, it cannot be anything but laughable
@lotsofuwuenergy3983
@lotsofuwuenergy3983 3 жыл бұрын
The best way I've illuminated friends and family irl on how it feels when they go in circles when telling stories has been showing them any random transcript from Trump's speeches. My favorite has been from one in a rally in PA *(warning, long as fuck babbling about nothing):* "A lot of our jobs are coming back now. They're coming back now. Speaking of jobs, I wanna thank the people that own this plant. You have a governor named Tom Wolf, I guess, Tom Wolf. This thing was set up just a few hours ago, that's why it's so incredible that people across the street, trying to get in. This was set up because your governor made it almost impossible for us to find any site. Normally we would have had an airport, we would've gotten in, we would have had a... I mean this is a really nice place. No, I want to thank the trucking company, they're great, they're supporters. Well, we just found it a little while ago because they were shut out. We had a deal, it was a deal, and they broke the deal... [continuous]."
@allnaturalfigjam310
@allnaturalfigjam310 3 жыл бұрын
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 Freakin' word salad
@ThrowAway-gu2lw
@ThrowAway-gu2lw 3 жыл бұрын
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 this hurt to read
@ctographerm3285
@ctographerm3285 3 жыл бұрын
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 he really has an amazing and terrific talent of turning the simplest English words into IQ-draining meaningless mouth noises just to fill the void.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын
Do you really need to read his words to see that? My family laughed at Trump's elocution and vocabulary when we heard one of his speech, and we're not even native english-speaker XD
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 3 жыл бұрын
The quote from trump read in a straight voice just sounds like pressing the AutoCorrection over and over again
@professionalbozo4396
@professionalbozo4396 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ok I don’t think so they’re going on the top of ram on google maps for the first place and then they are just fine and then they are going on google maps to get a hold on the file and see how they can use them for a couple days so that you can get them to me and then I can get them to you get them off and I will look for them for you to see what they do need for them and then they are just going on the same time
@gwenrees7594
@gwenrees7594 3 жыл бұрын
@@professionalbozo4396 Oh my god that actually does sound like orange man
@FeralFelineFriend
@FeralFelineFriend 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something you'd expect from google translate.
@mikester4896
@mikester4896 3 жыл бұрын
@@professionalbozo4396 Oh God, it hurts!
@krautreport202
@krautreport202 3 жыл бұрын
Good day for me to get a chance to win a bit more than just a bit more than just a bit more than just a little bit more then I will be on your own business and I have a great day of my favorite things to do with your friends and family and friends. Oh god...
@Mae_forrest
@Mae_forrest 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of propaganda is thoroughly insidious. I was raised in the Texas school system, which uncritically taught not only the virtues of the founders of Texas, but most glaringly, that the South was not the villains of the Civil War. WE fought in favor of states rights... but conveniently left out the right they fought for was slavery. It took until college for this grand reveal in my education. The whole system is riddled with this kind of thing. Thank you for this critical attention to American pedagogy, its sorely needed.
@jameswickham4923
@jameswickham4923 3 жыл бұрын
This was genuinely and enthusiastically taught in my middle school in Texas and it took until high school for me to question it
@気が読めない子
@気が読めない子 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really curious what kind of states rights they are trying to protect even if it's true.
@taylorgoldman130
@taylorgoldman130 3 жыл бұрын
@@気が読めない子 my teacher would explain that it was the right to govern themselves and make their own tax laws.
@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong
@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong 3 жыл бұрын
@@taylorgoldman130 my favorite part about the whole "The south fought for the right of states to govern themselves" is that it kinda falls apart when you consider the Fugitive Slave Act, which _forced_ Northern states to return escaped slaves regardless of their own slave laws.
@SleepingLionsProductions
@SleepingLionsProductions 3 жыл бұрын
This was not just pushed in southern schools. The same exact shit was taught to me in middle school... In California.
@LeafseasonMagbag
@LeafseasonMagbag 3 жыл бұрын
My history teacher drilled into us that if learning your history makes you more “patriotic” then someone’s doing something wrong.
@Lfppfs
@Lfppfs 3 жыл бұрын
So damn true.
@jasondaveries9716
@jasondaveries9716 3 жыл бұрын
based history teacher? lucky
@patnewbie2177
@patnewbie2177 3 жыл бұрын
Same. My city had a VIOLENT race riot in 1919, and my teacher would not let us forget that.
@levvy3006
@levvy3006 3 жыл бұрын
Nationalism is the cause of both world wars.
@TheGaboom
@TheGaboom 3 жыл бұрын
Personally; I don't really know for sure if like this drill your teacher provided either. Though It may just be that I'm missing context, so I'll just try asking some questions I understand from this statement that learning your countries history should not make you more patriotic. I can currently see two ways to interpret this so I've categorized them _ ________ _ Should learning history make you less patriotic? ~ If so; is this rule universal regardless of the country of origin? ~ If it is not universal; then doesn't the selective nature indicate that the teacher was drilling their own negative outlook on the country? ~ And if the answer to the above was "Yes"; then isn't this the same threat of indoctrination that you see from propaganda? _ ________ _ Alternative interpretation; Learning your countries history should neither make you more nor less patriotic. ~ If learning history a country, does not change your outlook on the country; are you actually considering the implications of the history? ~ Is the answer to the above different depending on whether or not it is your own country? If not; why not?
@creepycustard2383
@creepycustard2383 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing slavery categorised alongside progressivism is absolutely wild.
@soupalex
@soupalex 3 жыл бұрын
don't forget there are some people who-apparently sincerely-think that "the republican party ended slavery, and the democrats fought to keep it!" is a great, relevant point to be making in the 21st century. i mean, when out-and-proud white supremacists are so completely unbothered by the rep party's historical role in ending slavery that they wholeheartedly endorse them, you have to wonder if something else might have happened in… oh, over a century of time since the american civil war 🤔
@kinghassy334
@kinghassy334 3 жыл бұрын
also says fascism while pushing fascist propaganda
@PitLord777
@PitLord777 3 жыл бұрын
"Progressivism is bad Slavery is also bad Therefore, progressivism and slavery are on the same side."
@gay.mer9328
@gay.mer9328 3 жыл бұрын
@@soupalex I always love this. “If you ignore the past 100 years, the DEMOCRATS are the racists!”
@woaddragon
@woaddragon 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinghassy334 care to explain..
@LC-sc3en
@LC-sc3en 3 жыл бұрын
I often think that true patriots love their country like a house that has been passed down through the generations. They love it because it is their home and there are good memories and things about it's character they love. But loving it means acknowledging that maybe your forefathers didn't build the best foundation and the foundation needs work for the house to stay standing. It means fixing the leak in the roof. It means spending money to address issues that you personally didn't cause because you want your children to be able to inherit the house too. Nationalists love their country like a bad parent loves a spoiled child and their own ego. Their child is the best and they won't hear a bad word about them. They won't address misbehavior nor even acknowledge it because to do so would reflect badly on themselves. Any report of the child's misdeeds are lies and definitely someone else's fault and they will fabricate evidence to make others believe it. The child doesn't learn or improve and goes on to treat their children the same way.
@mr.goldfish1530
@mr.goldfish1530 3 жыл бұрын
Then again, in a house like the US, the foundations are so rotten the only real solution is just to tear the whole thing to the ground and rebuild from the ground up
@Mish844
@Mish844 3 жыл бұрын
the best description of difference between patriotism and nationalism I've seen. Congratz.
@Mish844
@Mish844 3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyoftavastia2445 Not destroying - rebuilding. Kinda big difference.
@potatoman6556
@potatoman6556 3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyoftavastia2445 what isn't communist propaganda nowdays? Edit: not that everything is communist propaganda. Some people just view everything as communist propaganda
@anna-flora999
@anna-flora999 3 жыл бұрын
More like an abusive parent isolating their child and punishing and berating it for every attempt to change compared to their vision of what the child should be
@Valyssi
@Valyssi 3 жыл бұрын
I love how "progressivism" is listed as a major threat to American exceptionalism. Like, do they really think America became so exceptional by upholding the status quo? I mean, that is sort of true, it's how it's currently exceptional amongst Western nations, but that's not something to be proud of
@chris-bacon205
@chris-bacon205 3 жыл бұрын
These conservatives are becoming extremely concerning. I first I thought calling them fascist was goofy and a little extreme. But now I have definitely get why! They hate everything progressive, they lump all media not loyal to the party as "cultural marxism".
@cremetangerine82
@cremetangerine82 2 жыл бұрын
@@chris-bacon205 No, they’re fascists.
@tyleraustria
@tyleraustria 2 жыл бұрын
Roger lili
@israelgroysman5040
@israelgroysman5040 Жыл бұрын
@@chris-bacon205 what else should you call communists
@chris-bacon205
@chris-bacon205 Жыл бұрын
@Israel Groysman yeah I don't know. I made this comment a year ago. My opinions on all this stuff have changed by alot.
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 3 жыл бұрын
They're essentially putting forth a narrative of history that, to them, seems more politically correct. Oh, the irony.
@theomegajuice8660
@theomegajuice8660 3 жыл бұрын
It annoys me the term "political correctness" rarely gets used when talking about the stuff right-wingers do. Like advocate airbrushed "patriotic" narratives of history or insist on inserting "climate skeptics" into climate change discussions or getting instinctively outraged when someone describes something as racist/ homophobic even when it provably is etc.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it is like trying to point out to people that, "Hating on Identity Politics, is a form of Identity Politics.", or that, "Claiming to be "apolitical" is a political stance." :(
@neeneko
@neeneko 3 жыл бұрын
@@theomegajuice8660 This is rooted in their idea of natural order. Something is 'politically correct' when they disagree with it, but 'correct' when they agree.
@sharkofjoy
@sharkofjoy 3 жыл бұрын
It's the opposite of irony. Loudly shouting your opponent is doing what you yourself are currently engaged in doing on live television is a calculated, purposeful, planned form of disinformation. The effects still exist in the world: we know there is child sex trafficking. We will talk incessantly about saving the children, and then in the same breath defend known child molesters. It's not irony, it's the point.
@kamijk
@kamijk 3 жыл бұрын
@@theomegajuice8660 whenever I accuse someone of doing something racist or something I always include the disclaimer “I know it’s not politically correct to say this but...”
@AcolytesOfHorror
@AcolytesOfHorror 3 жыл бұрын
they really did list "progressivism" and "identity politics" alongside "fascism" and "slavery" in that Challenges To America's Principles section. wow
@geo-fry6372
@geo-fry6372 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that really disturbed me when it came out. This is one of the most blatant pieces of propaganda I've ever seen in this country.
@peterprime2140
@peterprime2140 3 жыл бұрын
You know what? I actually agree with them, progressivism and identity politics are antithetical to America's principles, almost like a centuries old document shouldn't stubbornly be the basis for a modern country.
@georgecisneros5281
@georgecisneros5281 3 жыл бұрын
As any reasonable (or in the case of Trump and his ilk, at least close to half reasonable) people should.😉
@applecatnyango
@applecatnyango 3 жыл бұрын
So instead of stealing and rebranding "progressivism" for themselves, American conservatives just indirectly admit that they are and have always been bunch of _regressives_ .
@mattpaxton3528
@mattpaxton3528 3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised they didn't list "empathy" as another challenge.
@Advent3546
@Advent3546 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing makes America feel more like Starship Troopers than something called "Patriotic Education".
@jakelilevjen9766
@jakelilevjen9766 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like Heinlein knew what was up.
@economicist2011
@economicist2011 3 жыл бұрын
You would like to know more. If you know what's good for you, anyway.
@setlerking
@setlerking 3 жыл бұрын
Starship troopers was written by what today probably would be an avid trump supporter
@maduinargentus5878
@maduinargentus5878 3 жыл бұрын
Rightwingers love the society in Starship Troopers
@dayegilharno4988
@dayegilharno4988 3 жыл бұрын
@@setlerking Quite the opposite... Orwell did not advocate the surveillance state, either!
@a.firkaly6548
@a.firkaly6548 3 жыл бұрын
Hadn’t heard that Frederick Douglas speech until today. That was the most savage critique I’ve ever heard
@NeoNovastar
@NeoNovastar 3 жыл бұрын
I feel lucky to have lived in a time where I could hear such a brutal murder via words with my own ears.
@empty5013
@empty5013 3 жыл бұрын
i was moved by it and i'm not even american, that speech was absolutely glorious
@jessie450
@jessie450 2 жыл бұрын
He really went off
@cremetangerine82
@cremetangerine82 2 жыл бұрын
He kept it 💯.
@watsonwrote
@watsonwrote 2 жыл бұрын
Frederick Douglass is an absolutely incredible orator. To anyone reading this, I recommend reading or listening to his speeches because they all go really hard
@saranghae1saranghae
@saranghae1saranghae 3 жыл бұрын
Conservatives: "Facts don't care about your feelings." Also Conservatives: "I don't like when people bring up historical facts, so I'm going to rewrite history, and make new 'facts' that don't offend me."
@Silburific
@Silburific 3 жыл бұрын
"Facts don't care about _your_ feelings; I never said anything about _my_ feelings."
@sidwislff6184
@sidwislff6184 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you making a sweeping generalization? To say that all conservatives say that would be like saying that all left Wings are snow flakes
@skotmatthews8940
@skotmatthews8940 3 жыл бұрын
I'll give conservatives one thing, they sure know how to complain about things they do themselves, like safe spaces and "cancel culture" and claiming they are the true American patriots as they fly flags and defend statues of a foreign country that went to war with the US
@skotmatthews8940
@skotmatthews8940 3 жыл бұрын
@@honestabe6926 you should look into the word systematic. Just because there are rich black people doesn't mean racism no longer exists for anyone
@honestabe6926
@honestabe6926 3 жыл бұрын
@@skotmatthews8940 I know right, imagine flying the flag of your own country, that's so racist and homophobic.
@SeanKL107
@SeanKL107 3 жыл бұрын
"He is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins." - Frederick Douglass
@BenGrem917
@BenGrem917 3 жыл бұрын
Fire. I'm going to use this in an argument where MLs are ganging up on me for daring to criticize Leninism.
@ScorpionViper1001
@ScorpionViper1001 3 жыл бұрын
Hell, even a conservative Catholic realized how cringe this attitude is: "'My country, right or wrong,' is something no true patriot would say. That's like saying, 'my mother, drunk or sober.'" - G.K. Chesterton
@woaddragon
@woaddragon 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScorpionViper1001 Having read something of Chesterson. I can not be sure that he is the best judge of apportiate level of patriotism.
@JDG-hq8gy
@JDG-hq8gy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScorpionViper1001 yeah cause that’s how bias works, you don’t realise your wrong but the evolutionary urge to support your tribe overpowers your critical thinking skills
@felicityc
@felicityc 3 жыл бұрын
I convinced half my rhetoric class that the shitty argument being given vs our budget was terrible. But not because of the point. Because all the evidence and citations were wrong or just straight up repeated from other wrong authors. and then I explained its really important to criticize our country but not with shitty arguments. big tip: study the things you are criticizing first so you don't go and accuse an entire economic fraud base as being mostly problematic because of the F-35 budget, except trying to compare said budget to an education posited one without realizing the F-35 budget is over 80 years and the education is for one year. however any budget arguments are irrelevant post-stimulus. completely unacceptable we never used that potential money to make shit better. we waited until things were bad to do it and it cost even more.
@markroberts4809
@markroberts4809 3 жыл бұрын
That Frederick Douglas speech is fire, incredibly ironic for them to quote it.
@sprotte6665
@sprotte6665 3 жыл бұрын
it would be great in an english class examining rhetoric! it's so juicy and full of pathos!
@tawabunny
@tawabunny 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably an attempt by the "prestigious, accredited american historians" who created the 1776 report to appear impartial on the issue, using rhetoric of their opponents to twist it and make it seem like these altrustic figures support their vile viewpoints, etc, etc.. pretty standard gross evil shit. (made this comment before shaun said the exact same thing, oops :P
@sprotte6665
@sprotte6665 3 жыл бұрын
@@tawabunny I meant the parts they didn't quote, those were good
@tawabunny
@tawabunny 3 жыл бұрын
@@sprotte6665 ye i know lol i was responding to mr. roberts here
@snapgab
@snapgab 3 жыл бұрын
I almost feel like they must have quoted from that specific speech on purpose, just to prove that they could. It has to be possible to find some excerpt from Douglass where he says something positive about the US, without going on to spend the rest of the time mercilessly bashing the US. I really feel like they went out of their way to use this specific quote, just because they wanted to disrespect Douglass's actual message as much as possible.
@gankhef5564
@gankhef5564 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking as an American with a black parent from the Florida panhandle, and a white parent from South Boston who was raised in both North Yorkshire and an area around 30 mins from Washington D.C. (unlikely, I know), I was struck rather hard with the cognitive dissonance expected of me in the classroom after my family returned stateside. The degree to which gaslighting has been baked into our system of education was made distressingly evident when interacting with each side of my family. I can say with supreme confidence that neither my cousins in the projects of Southie, the ghetto of Florida, or myself in the MidAtlantic ever would have even guessed that Fredrick Douglas said such things from what was taught about the man in school. Had I not been fortunate enough to attend college I would likely still associate his name with the black guy giving America a quiet thumbs up in the background. The "1776 Project" is legitimately one of the most sinister things I've seen in my rather jaded time on this planet.
@alexhobbs2352
@alexhobbs2352 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell who would be spinning harder in their grave at conservatives misquoting them at this point, MLK or Orwell
@Aztec-115
@Aztec-115 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to say, MLK is constantly quoted by racists as an excuse to stop black people from fighting inequality, and Orwell is quoted to prevent dissenting voices to be able to have a say, I would say MLK since Orwell’s quotes are used by a bigger variety of people and are not used often in favor of ultra authoritarian fascist regimes while MLK’s quotes are used by white supremacists to stop racial equality (Also now I can’t stop imagining MLK and Orwell spinning on the tune of “Spin me round, round baby round round)
@roguepsykerhaaker4813
@roguepsykerhaaker4813 3 жыл бұрын
We could hook them up to a generator and get enough power to out compete oil barons
@48917032
@48917032 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus out-rotates them both. He must be supersonic by now.
@DanielForrester
@DanielForrester 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Orwell and MLK were both avowed Socialists.
@aarondavid1000
@aarondavid1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aztec-115 black people have equality under the law please just stop. and don't you dare bring up 'disparity' stats to try and prove other wise
@LavenderGooms
@LavenderGooms 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not sure what we can learn from that apart from the fact that the 1619 Project is clearly occupying space in what we can charitably refer to as the President's mind." Thank you for the gift of this sentence, Shaun.
@oc4025
@oc4025 3 жыл бұрын
A sophisticated man's "living in his head rent free"
@skepticmonkey6923
@skepticmonkey6923 3 жыл бұрын
@@oc4025 Dont forget "what we can charitably refer to as the President's mind" is the most amazing way of calling someone an idiot.
@TheKitKatProject
@TheKitKatProject 3 жыл бұрын
“So as long as there’s profits in keeping people divided, attempts to divide people will persist” Spent an hour listening to Shaun talk, was not disappointed. 10/10 would do it again
@Sableagle
@Sableagle 3 жыл бұрын
There's also profit in keeping people convinced that only the right-wing, authoritarian, corporate stooges of the "Democrat" party and the right-wing, authoritarian, corporate stooges of the "Republican" party are viable candidates, so those who profit from having right-wing, authoritarian, corporate stooges in power invest in keeping people convinced there's no point in ever voting for anyone else.
@TheKitKatProject
@TheKitKatProject 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sableagle Forget Duverger’s Law… this is Duverger’s Gun
@tysonasaurus6392
@tysonasaurus6392 Жыл бұрын
The fact Charlie Kirk had any writing in a government document for any number of days is so embarrassing
@NoName-lq6vw
@NoName-lq6vw 10 ай бұрын
isn't he fucking Canadian??? go back to Canada! same for Steven Crowder
@loonachan
@loonachan 3 жыл бұрын
I hope for a day when Shaun doesn't have to debunk official government documents with fascist propaganda in them
@justinwatson1510
@justinwatson1510 3 жыл бұрын
I, too, eagerly await the communist revolution.
@iankclark
@iankclark 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinwatson1510 I know right? (eye roll)
@iankclark
@iankclark 3 жыл бұрын
In other news: fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, ad infinitum.
@theancomrade8545
@theancomrade8545 3 жыл бұрын
@@iankclark yes.
@theancomrade8545
@theancomrade8545 3 жыл бұрын
@@iankclark let’s add one more : Ian Clark is a fascist. As well.
@DoggyHateFire
@DoggyHateFire 3 жыл бұрын
Shaun is the perfect example of quality over quantity. Every time I see him upload a video I get excited.
@twonumber22
@twonumber22 3 жыл бұрын
Like a Montemayor drop.
@Ledabot
@Ledabot 3 жыл бұрын
You say that but his long ass vids show both quality and quantity
@DoggyHateFire
@DoggyHateFire 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ledabot Touché
@lotsofuwuenergy3983
@lotsofuwuenergy3983 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I hate the KZbin algorithm for pushing creators (who god forbid want compensation/payment in return for their content like any other entertainer) to crank out videos on a weekly or daily basis. The quality isn't allowed to be near the level of potential it has and creators get stressed out and burnt out for trying to keep up, along with losing their original passion :( I wish Shauns could be more common to see on this platform
@DoggyHateFire
@DoggyHateFire 3 жыл бұрын
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 Exactly. Shaun is like the anti-youtuber. You don't see him or get to know much at all about his life. His videos are basically just him talking over a static image and yet he's more engaging than the vast majority of people I see.
@dragonborn3609
@dragonborn3609 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember reading the 1776 document where George Washington jumped off his blimp with that one guy from Assassins Creed III to kill King George III and then Ameruca was freed.
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
Was this before or after Abraham Lincoln and Robert E Lee fist bumped and used semi automatic rifles to defeat the communist jihadi Democrat Obama?
@wennick4859
@wennick4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@DieNibelungenliad it was before that but after Thomas Jefferson found the arc of the covenant and solved world hunger
@BenYork-UBY
@BenYork-UBY 3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing hateful or unpatriotic about acknowledging the errors of the past. Wanting the country to improve from the past is in fact very patriotic. Trying to whitewash history does nothing to help your country become the best
@Able542
@Able542 3 жыл бұрын
"It's in our most bitter history that we learn the most useful lessons."
@Penname25
@Penname25 2 жыл бұрын
@@Able542 no. History has lessons in all its periods.
@Able542
@Able542 2 жыл бұрын
@@Penname25 How does that contradict what I've said?
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 2 жыл бұрын
It helps it become the most delusional.
@britishrex5515
@britishrex5515 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I am proud of my nation but not of colonialism, or the slave trade, or the general oppression etc.
@BenjaminBattington
@BenjaminBattington 3 жыл бұрын
"The foundation of our Republic planted the seeds of the death of slavery" Lmao that's like saying my mum killed me because my birth was the beginning of my mortal life
@elvellarambles9151
@elvellarambles9151 3 жыл бұрын
But how badass would a line like that be in like an adventure novel tho: “In giving me life, my mother also doomed me unto death”
@drazlet
@drazlet 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a good way of putting it
@seanrider4410
@seanrider4410 3 жыл бұрын
Um no? Slavery existed in America long before the founding of the republic. So they’re absolutely right when they said that the founding was the beginning of the end of slavery, it just took a while for us to enforce the law.
@BenjaminBattington
@BenjaminBattington 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanrider4410 "it just took a while" lmfao my man you're real generous with the word "while" there. I usually use that for like a 30 min queue but OK.
@seanrider4410
@seanrider4410 3 жыл бұрын
@Bigby B well you have to look at it from a historical perspective. Of course from our perspective it was LONG over due. But in the context of the rest of the world, we actually shed it incredibly quickly. Africa, Asia, the americas, and the Mediterranean, all had extremely prominent slave trades that existed for thousands of years, outlasting dozens of empires. Most of them still have slavery in the form of human trafficking, which is actually the main export of a few African nations still. European empires banned slavery within their home borders for a while, I don’t know exactly how long, but still practiced it in their colonies for centuries. When you look at it like this, with us fighting a war to abolish the institution within a mere century of our founding, as it was antithetical to our values as a nation, it was incredibly speedy. This is what the report was saying. Slavery was an abomination that is a blot on our history, but it does not define us. We are a nation that strives for liberty, and that’s what we should continue to be.
@ARMADILLOARMADILLO
@ARMADILLOARMADILLO 3 жыл бұрын
"What we can charitably refer to as the president's mind" I love the dry humor
@iamyoursaviour
@iamyoursaviour 3 жыл бұрын
I love how easy it is to make trump look ridiculous by just reading what he says
@lemonvick
@lemonvick 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing anybody read a Trump quote who’s not Trump just hits home how incoherent his speech is
@evamiller4886
@evamiller4886 3 жыл бұрын
The same people who freak out if you suggest there are fascists in politics wrote a whole report on how to teach children a sense of patriotism and loyalty to the country and government from a young age
@BarackLesnar
@BarackLesnar 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to your first day of kindergarten, you will be required to recite the pledge of allegiance each day
@BarackLesnar
@BarackLesnar 3 жыл бұрын
@@kg356 every country should drill blind loyalty into their children regardless of if the country is good or not? Are you retarded?
@abbaszaffarkhan1872
@abbaszaffarkhan1872 3 жыл бұрын
@@kg356 doesn’t seem very righteous to have unconditional loyalty to your country’s principles simply because you were born there
@TheFeldhamster
@TheFeldhamster 3 жыл бұрын
@@kg356 nope, and there are countries who know exactly why they don't. Germany and Austria. Being blindly patriotic always gives strange vibes here because we *know* how that can end and it's not pretty.
@t3hmaniac
@t3hmaniac 3 жыл бұрын
"Shit they're on to us!"
@guyanomaly
@guyanomaly 10 ай бұрын
My dad is a historian. Specifically a historian of the Civil War period, but he has deeply researched the histories of Native American peoples in the original US colonies and the history of slavery in the first colonies. My dad is a very stoic, rationalizing type of guy. He never curses. He faces blatant racism and ahistorical shit with a very academic and calm attitude. When I first learned of the 1776 report, I texted him asking what he thought about it. He replied a few hours later, “Are they on crack?”
@savvysmiles1121
@savvysmiles1121 3 жыл бұрын
"The white house is publishing blatant white supremacist propaganda...Usually it only publishes veiled white supremacist propaganda" Pure comedic gold.
@Andizottel
@Andizottel 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because it's true. It's also sad because it's true.
@neocomp92
@neocomp92 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he said "failed". "Veiled" is even worse!
@DL-cb5vl
@DL-cb5vl 3 жыл бұрын
@Christian why are you here
@zacharyoftavastia2445
@zacharyoftavastia2445 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Andizottel It's sad that leftists hate the truth so much.
@henryjones8287
@henryjones8287 3 жыл бұрын
Taken, consciously or unconsciously, from from a Stewart Lee bit I reckon
@lilmecca
@lilmecca 3 жыл бұрын
"His arguments were targeted to his audience, easy to understand, and entirely completely wrong" LMAOOO
@eldersun5110
@eldersun5110 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a certain orange golem
@themusicaljunkie37
@themusicaljunkie37 3 жыл бұрын
Conservatives want to turn American history into their safe space and they are trying to force schools to comply. In other words, they are "free speech fighters" by censoring certain chapters of our country history.
@lotsofuwuenergy3983
@lotsofuwuenergy3983 3 жыл бұрын
@@themusicaljunkie37 Funny how teaching evolution and coherent sex ed in our classes was too authoritarian for these shnooks
@fafo867
@fafo867 3 жыл бұрын
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 teaching kids to speak up against abuse is a big no no for them
@Hanfgurkenhasser
@Hanfgurkenhasser 3 жыл бұрын
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 I don't know why but your name cracks me up, thanks for that. :D
@pmcd9977
@pmcd9977 3 жыл бұрын
As an American student I've had a history teacher who told us to "keep your confederate coins, because the South will rise again" in class, so I really want to know where conservatives get the idea that American education (especially history class) has become dominated by a left-wing narrative, and I would also very much like for that to be true.
@pmcd9977
@pmcd9977 3 жыл бұрын
@NichtDerZocka oh for sure, but where I live the curriculum is still noticeably falsified at times so all of this is just hilariously misrepresentative of the current situation and I find it morbidly comical
@thatsalotofdamage8568
@thatsalotofdamage8568 3 жыл бұрын
@Wiegraf Good.
@thatsalotofdamage8568
@thatsalotofdamage8568 3 жыл бұрын
@Wiegraf Based
@antipsychotic451
@antipsychotic451 3 жыл бұрын
That is incredibly scary.
@pmcd9977
@pmcd9977 3 жыл бұрын
@@antipsychotic451 Update, her son is my biology teacher now, so it got worse :/
@clauseberdnsn2979
@clauseberdnsn2979 2 жыл бұрын
The “What to the slave is the fourth of July?” speech by Frederick Douglass that he mentioned is definitely worth reading in its entirety, for its historical as well as its literary and emotional value. 10/10 would recommend
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 3 жыл бұрын
The 1776 Report comes from the same people that screams, “d O y O u R O w N r E A s E r C h”... All the while them failing to do any sort of quality research.
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 3 жыл бұрын
"Look at your fancy graphs and citations! I get my facts from middle aged white guys ranting in their trucks. You liberals are all coast elitists! Now shut up while I cast my vote for a lawyer who got his BA from Princeton and his JD from Stanford."
@inefffable
@inefffable 3 жыл бұрын
They rely on people not critically thinking about what they read. If they make a claim, you can find a source supporting the claim, whether or not it's true, you're more likely to accept it was truth, and then cognitive bias prevents from you from changing your mind away from the false belief
@Rebazar
@Rebazar 3 жыл бұрын
Helpful tip: conservatives don't believe most of the shit they say, and trying to hold them to account on it only serves their goals.
@ceyboard4296
@ceyboard4296 3 жыл бұрын
I hate the idea that Left-Wing Americans hate America, I just want this place to be a better place for everyone and find justice and closure for past evils. Does improving the nation you live in not mean you want the best for it? So goddamn frustrating.
@sakura_branches
@sakura_branches 3 жыл бұрын
I hate america so much I want everyone to have healthcare and not get murdered because of their skin color
@felicityc
@felicityc 3 жыл бұрын
good luck. now i hate america. because when you say you want to do those things you get accused of being a media shill leftist veteran here
@AK-Kessler0907
@AK-Kessler0907 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakura_branches God damn that was so on point, gonna use it, thanks!
@davids.3584
@davids.3584 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakura_branches don't worry. Only 13 unarmed
@davids.3584
@davids.3584 3 жыл бұрын
Black men died in
@lordoftherats8215
@lordoftherats8215 3 жыл бұрын
“Malcolm X never lived to see the government fall, but the state he opposed made him a stamp. That’s the best you can hope for if you never give up, your enemies will teach your corpse to dance.” -Pat the Bunny
@CJWproductions
@CJWproductions 3 жыл бұрын
That's a defeatist take. The fight isn't over yet. Plenty of activists have been, and continue to be motivated by his work.
@lordoftherats8215
@lordoftherats8215 3 жыл бұрын
@@CJWproductions thats very true, I was just quoting a good song by an anarchist musician that I like. The whole mlk thing reminded me of it. Activists will always be inspired by the great minds and thinkers and activists of years past, and they helped establish the ground we now stand on, but the state will always manipulate and cherrypick to try and present themselves as being more progressive and more receptive to criticism than they actually are. That’s more what I meant in quoting it.
@lordoftherats8215
@lordoftherats8215 3 жыл бұрын
@@CJWproductions Side note about the defeatist take, the song itself ends with “So when I come out take me by the hand and show the world a fight it won't forget” and the album it’s off of is called probably nothing, possibly everything. The name of the album is talking about how activism and fighting for a better world can be a difficult thing that seems to amount to basically nothing, but no matter what there’s still at least a possibility that we can change everything, make the world a substantially better place, etc. The point is that even when it seems like the chance is very slim that we can, for example, lead to the end of capitalism, when there’s even a slight chance it’s worth it. It’s a sorta hopeful nihilism lol
@googlefashists4986
@googlefashists4986 3 жыл бұрын
Who killed Malcolm x?
@lordoftherats8215
@lordoftherats8215 3 жыл бұрын
@@googlefashists4986 it’s not 100% known, officially it was members of the Nation of Islam (group he left), tho towards the end of his life he said that he didn’t think the noi had the level of power that they seemed to be showing, implying it may have been a federal agency or a collaboration between the two.
@lemmonboy6459
@lemmonboy6459 3 жыл бұрын
That Frederick Douglas reading was HEAVY GOD DAMN, threw so much shade that I’m pretty sure he darkened the sun with that speech
@Frizzleman
@Frizzleman 2 жыл бұрын
Fredrick Douglas nuclear winter lol
@FadkinsDiet
@FadkinsDiet 2 жыл бұрын
I just wonder if the blokes who invited him had an inkling of what he'd talk about or if they were blindsided
@cremetangerine82
@cremetangerine82 2 жыл бұрын
@@FadkinsDiet They certainly did not read the speech before he gave it! Damn, it was perfect!
@maivaiva1412
@maivaiva1412 3 жыл бұрын
me, while shaun's reading the "historical roots of political correctness": oh it's by probably some weird nazi on the internet shaun: this was written by anders brevik me:
@ScorpionViper1001
@ScorpionViper1001 3 жыл бұрын
Well you were right about the "weird Nazi" part...sadly not entirely online.
@WinningSidekick
@WinningSidekick 3 жыл бұрын
Hit pretty close to home as a Norwegian lemme tell ya 🙃
@mclovinjr9086
@mclovinjr9086 3 жыл бұрын
@@WinningSidekick It’s sickening to think about what happened that day. It baffles me how evil people can be sometimes.
@romanianpirate4531
@romanianpirate4531 3 жыл бұрын
@@WinningSidekick Ikke stem Rødt
@WinningSidekick
@WinningSidekick 3 жыл бұрын
@@romanianpirate4531 njææ, jeg stemmer litt variabelt fra år til år avhengig av partiprogram. har stemt Rødt før, men mulig det blir MDG neste gang. hvordan det, har jeg gått glipp av noen viktige nyheter om Rødt?
@FeralCreatureOfIncredibleRoses
@FeralCreatureOfIncredibleRoses 3 жыл бұрын
i got here 31 seconds after this was posted, and the feeling of being so early just makes me feel exposed. i have no comments to hide in if this gets scary
@qpalzm563
@qpalzm563 3 жыл бұрын
You're right, you can't hide...
@scarythepirate3601
@scarythepirate3601 3 жыл бұрын
Braver than the troops. Thank you for your service. o7
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787 3 жыл бұрын
The wikipedia article preamble for cultural marxism has given me a better understanding of the idea of cultural marxism than anything any conservative talking head has ever been able to do.
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 3 жыл бұрын
Shaun is literally a talking head. Without even skin.
@bloomper
@bloomper 3 жыл бұрын
@@antediluvianatheist5262 You say we are just talking heads, yet you listen openly to a skull! Curious. -Karlie Chirk, Toilet Paper USA
@grayson0916
@grayson0916 3 жыл бұрын
Tends to work out that way
@reddyshreddy5050
@reddyshreddy5050 3 жыл бұрын
“Cultural Marxism” is the average conservative bitchboy way of trying to jump around the good old “Judo-Bolshevism” talking point that they are indirectly using whether they know it or not.
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787 3 жыл бұрын
@@antediluvianatheist5262 Lmao, good point
@acehealer4212
@acehealer4212 3 жыл бұрын
“Former President Trump” is an extremely sexy phrase.
@acehealer4212
@acehealer4212 3 жыл бұрын
@Karl Marx I agree.
@jabba820
@jabba820 3 жыл бұрын
@Karl Marx strong disagree Karl. It is important to know our full history and realize no president was perfect. I believe however that certain presidents are worth admiring and are highly influential. Are you really going to put Lincoln in the category of "ass"? I am a strong leftist democrat but lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater
@jabba820
@jabba820 3 жыл бұрын
@Karl Marx you have that right your opinion. IMO I would consider Clinton and Obama (while flawed) good modern presidents as well. Especially with mass shootings seeming out of control, I’m jealous Clinton lived in a time where he was able to have an assault weapons ban. Clinton also was a major proponent of funding poor communities while also balancing our budget. Obama pushed this country forward towards healthcare to all citizens and, for the love of god, recognized gay marriage as a constitutional right and that was decided upon during his tenure in office. Obviously these are off the top of my head, and there are major flaws with every president, but I still have hope in this country! (Notice the purposeful omissions of the warmongering bushes, Reagan, and Trump).
@shahsadsaadu5817
@shahsadsaadu5817 3 жыл бұрын
@@jabba820 all of them are terrible (except jimmy carter) for all the innocent civilians they killed in middle East,and many other places.
@YeTism
@YeTism 3 жыл бұрын
@@jabba820 Bill Clinton and Obama who started forever wars? We stan
@alfalafelstine1536
@alfalafelstine1536 3 жыл бұрын
Thesis: America is an exceptional country Antithesis: America is an evil country Synthesis: America is an exceptionally evil country
@georgecisneros5281
@georgecisneros5281 3 жыл бұрын
Antisynthesis: America is an evilly exceptional country.
@Flow86767
@Flow86767 3 жыл бұрын
Syntantithesis : America is an exceptionally evilly exceptional country.
@heartache5742
@heartache5742 3 жыл бұрын
scoliosis: america is a back pain country
@nickb1241
@nickb1241 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you stanning the soviet union youre making all the other commies look bad
@nickb1241
@nickb1241 3 жыл бұрын
@@skabbigkossa dont care didnt ask plus youre white
@jeremycanning7058
@jeremycanning7058 2 жыл бұрын
Conservatives really think MLK only did one speech
@danielgyte8460
@danielgyte8460 2 жыл бұрын
One paragraph from one speech*
@yoloswaggins7121
@yoloswaggins7121 2 жыл бұрын
They are lying. They know MLK would disagree with them and they know they would hate him were he still alive but they understand that he is a broadly popular figure and that they can use him to their advantage
@EmoLozer500
@EmoLozer500 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately a lot of white liberals think the same.. MLK has turned into a cartoon character to be rewritten, misrepresented, quoted out of context, and utilized as a political tool. Both parties are guilty of this, though their intentions for doing so differ. A lot of people are completely ignorant of his actual contributions to our history, and why his words sparked social change. The establishment on many fronts would like to keep it that way. Not just in politics, but also education. I've certainly had conversations where my fellow leftists weaponize MLK as a justification for their ill informed assumptions of the black community. It would make me sad if it wasn't so damn infuriating to see. Ugh it'll only continue..
@Mike.yt543
@Mike.yt543 18 күн бұрын
"Or his first term in office, if we live in the bad timeline" Alas
@sirjae6902
@sirjae6902 25 күн бұрын
Dang, the first time I heard Shaun say "or his first term in office if we live in the bad timeline" I chuckled, but after the 2024 election I'm just speechless... we do in fact live in the bad timeline.
@jestershark
@jestershark 3 жыл бұрын
I moved from the UK to the US in fifth grade and was completely unprepared when, on the first day of class, everyone stood up and started chanting in unison. I got in trouble for not joining in.
@videogamer596
@videogamer596 3 жыл бұрын
What, children don’t do loyalty oaths in the UK? :)
@jestershark
@jestershark 3 жыл бұрын
@@videogamer596 no, but there is still a monarchy so a bit of a mixed blessing
@zarahengel9104
@zarahengel9104 3 жыл бұрын
@@jestershark Wait a sec. They need to do that. I thought it was more like a voluntary thing. I mean we have problems too. But straight up needing to pledge your alliange to a flag is just weird. Isn't that indoctrination?
@jestershark
@jestershark 3 жыл бұрын
@@zarahengel9104 It really depends on the teacher you have-- my fifth grade teacher was a real patriot and so you HAD to, but my seventh grade teacher was cool and "let" me stand silently. In high school I started arguing that I was really british so shouldn't have to pledge allegiance. But yeah, it's indoctrination. (I had a friend who was a german exchange student and let me tell you. she did not like it.)
@Skelekin13
@Skelekin13 3 жыл бұрын
@@zarahengel9104 it depends on the school, but it's very common for students to be punished for not standing. Detention for not doing so was a thing when I was in grade school
@buncha3arrows195
@buncha3arrows195 3 жыл бұрын
Wow they weren't even slightly subtle with the fascism lmao
@TheSm1thers
@TheSm1thers 3 жыл бұрын
So which scummy ideology do you support if it's not fascism; monarchy or communism?
@onfrolicker9317
@onfrolicker9317 3 жыл бұрын
Love the pfp and true
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSm1thers You forgot to list the scummy ideology of capitalism.
@aloreantherogue4439
@aloreantherogue4439 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSm1thers I like that you say monarchy or communism like their the only political ideologies besides fascism. Also are you seriously subbed to Shaun just to you can troll in his comment section?
@iankirven2711
@iankirven2711 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSm1thers what?
@fsho5260
@fsho5260 3 жыл бұрын
it’s funny because even as someone in primary to high school in the 2000s through 2018, all of the things in the 1776 report were literally taught to us in all our history classes.
@felicityc
@felicityc 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. 2007-2011 here. ironically, joining the air force deprogrammed me because I was clever enough to get a job that required me to think independently since our supervisors wouldn't be able to really guide us; we were the subject matter experts, and that means being able to understand cultures and international geopolitics as it really is, and not how they want to see it on tv. fantasies don't win wars, they just make them sound less awful it's incredible we have specific training for that. LOL PTSD was just worse than anyone can imagine since I was fully aware of it the whole time.
@MST3Killa
@MST3Killa 3 жыл бұрын
@@felicityc Yeah, you should be learning how to hate yourself and destroy your nation instead.
@rhaeven
@rhaeven 3 жыл бұрын
@@MST3Killa yup, there's definitely no middle ground there
@cremetangerine82
@cremetangerine82 2 жыл бұрын
@@felicityc Thank you for your story and I hope you are able to heal.
@nobleradical2158
@nobleradical2158 Жыл бұрын
I graduated in 2022, and it’s gotten a lot better. While most of it is still true, our curriculum kinda paused at various points to highlight some of the great injustices (genocides) that the American nation did.
@LarryLopez91
@LarryLopez91 3 жыл бұрын
Wanna hear a joke? A legitimate, right wing, patriotic historian.
@leonardogomez8812
@leonardogomez8812 3 жыл бұрын
Funniest shit I’ve seen lol In all seriousness, I wish to one day meet a right leaning fellow with a sense of morality, intelligence, and most importantly a spine
@karkatvantass3730
@karkatvantass3730 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardogomez8812 Well if America as a whole is right leaning (Dems included for the most part) and someone is right wing of the right leaning country, safe to say there’s a low chance for redeeming qualities. :(
@aprilkurtz1589
@aprilkurtz1589 3 жыл бұрын
American as a whole isn't a right leaning country.
@Able542
@Able542 3 жыл бұрын
@@aprilkurtz1589 Care to elaborate? Because from what I've seen, conservatives have a HARD edge within political representation and the market is largely independent, so much so that they have a high degree of political influence. Which, colour me blue, surely doesn't smell like socialism to me.
@Rawnblade13
@Rawnblade13 2 жыл бұрын
Oxymorons all the way down.
@joek81981
@joek81981 3 жыл бұрын
"Folks, relax. We weren't just sitting there, trading human beings with EACH OTHER! We traded them with the whole world. Lots of countries. So... yeah. Still the good guys." The 1776 Project, basically.
@WMDistraction
@WMDistraction 3 жыл бұрын
As I seem to keep saying in this comments section, the parallels with how China handled its politics, history, and human rights abuses should be lost on no one.
@andywells1042
@andywells1042 3 жыл бұрын
@@WMDistraction All fine and dandy, we all know about the Uyghur genocide, but I haven’t see any comments talking about China. Drop the strawman, this is about America’s most recent attempt to distort its own history towards propaganda.
@donbeedrill
@donbeedrill 3 жыл бұрын
@@WMDistraction sorry but I thought this was America no China
@smoglin2369
@smoglin2369 3 жыл бұрын
@@WMDistraction Nobody is here to defend China.
@softiejace
@softiejace 3 жыл бұрын
"but the others did slavery too! so there 😠"
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Polish and currently we have a populist right wing conservative government that wallows in nationalist drivel and divides the country. As Poland was not a colonial power, it's less about racism and more about xenophobia and authoritarianism. Also the role of the church is significant, as they work with the government and pump hate into the society and divide it like never before. Because they need that division to keep power.
@banesatis6172
@banesatis6172 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikolamilicevic1040 give me ONE example of Poland participating in colonialism
@aarondavid1000
@aarondavid1000 3 жыл бұрын
lol the stinking irony of Leftists talking about the right being divisive...
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 3 жыл бұрын
@@aarondavid1000 stop branding people. You know nothing about Poland. I'm not a leftist, nor do I adhere to any stupid ideologies. I just want a stable and democratic country like all the people I know. Stop writing bullshit about my country that you know NOTHING about.
@aarondavid1000
@aarondavid1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@MiSt3300 im from the UK, london to be precise, I work with and have befriended many Polish immigrants - they all tell me that Poland is being infiltrated by leftists, which is why I made the assumption
@TikoVerhelst
@TikoVerhelst 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for that moment when they acknowledge Chopin was gay. "One of our national figure wasn't gay. He can't be. He was Polish. Polish people can not be gay by law." Yeah, we'll see about that.....(hopefully) I can understand anti-LGBT people. But deliberately rewriting history?!?!?!?!
@ToastyJunebugs
@ToastyJunebugs 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like your science teacher also had to walk a thin line bc if she fought for science AND against creationism, you can bet some parent would hear about it and try to sue the school for persecuting their religion.
@Jhawk_2k
@Jhawk_2k 3 жыл бұрын
And what if a Muslim parent complained about a Christian trying to persuade them of faith? You'd never hear a word from their side of the story of course. I have a feeling that the science teacher wasn't even walking a fine line at all, they intentionally were not convincing because that's what the school administration wanted.
@seanrider4410
@seanrider4410 3 жыл бұрын
thats because there is no argument against creationism. Religion is called BELIEF for a reason. You can operate under known scientific principles and the assumed history of the universe while still holding your own personal narrative for whatever reason you like. If a teacher tries to tell a child that their religious beliefs are wrong, that IS persecution of their religion. How do you not get this concept?
@Sorrelhas
@Sorrelhas 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like y'all are giving the teacher a lot of credit "I get to do nothing today if I indulge this jackass?" And then she put the lowest effort possible in the debate That's what I would do, at least
@anna-flora999
@anna-flora999 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanrider4410 if the religion says "the earth is 6000 years old", its the teacher duty to say "no, we have scientific evidence proving that wrong" That IS education. How do you not get this concept?
@allnaturalfigjam310
@allnaturalfigjam310 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanrider4410 There are many arguments against creationism. The fact that it's a belief doesn't make it immune from criticism. Creationism markets itself as objective, factual truth (what really happened because God says so) which opens it up to any factual argument which goes against that narrative (like fossils, to pick a random example). Creationism would have a better time if it marketed itself as a more metaphorical, metaphysical belief like many other religious creation myths do, because you can't argue against a metaphor with facts.
@Suindaer
@Suindaer 3 жыл бұрын
1776 report: quotes Frederick Douglass Shaun: "You're already dead"
@viracocha6093
@viracocha6093 3 жыл бұрын
“Vast, untamed wilderness” Which Native Americans extensively manipulated to suit their needs, so not untamed at all.
@krautreport202
@krautreport202 3 жыл бұрын
Not if you count Native Americans as untamed and wild...
@beesindisguise5375
@beesindisguise5375 3 жыл бұрын
But wait!!! My 9th grade history teacher told me that ALL Native Americans were savages!!! This is FALSE!!!!! This is a heavy /s. A REALLY heavy /s
@woaddragon
@woaddragon 3 жыл бұрын
@@krautreport202 welll that just wrong...but i think you know that and just being fallacious.
@seanrider4410
@seanrider4410 3 жыл бұрын
thats literally just false. 90% of all North American land was uninhabited and only migrated through seasonally for hunting. The only North American "nations," as in large permanent settlements with established governments such as the mound builders, were wiped out long before the formation of the first English colonies. So yes, vast untamed wilderness that we were first to inhabit and cultivate. Stop ignoring history just so it fits your world view. Is it bad that we pushed them off their land? Yes, but not the unique to America world ending sin everyone makes it out to be.
@tonywords6713
@tonywords6713 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanrider4410 how about stop embarassing yourself and shut your mouth child
@somebody-xu4mz
@somebody-xu4mz 3 жыл бұрын
"What we can charitably refer to as the president's mind"
@georgerobertson2089
@georgerobertson2089 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the "untamed wilderness" narrative does a lot to excuse away the still on-going genocide of indigenous people, particularly in the Americas (speaking as a bloke from the states). The wilderness wasn't tamed by indigenous people, rather they learned how to live within the constraints of the wilderness, and they took the care to manage those constraints. Indigenous people have been well-recorded as incredible land stewards. They took part in controlled burns, they planted huge swathes of the Amazon, and in some instances, they basically created anti-poaching legislation to protect the natural resources they needed. The "untamed wilderness" described by colonial Americans never existed, it was just a handy excuse to snuff out a group that was in their way.
@tonywords6713
@tonywords6713 3 жыл бұрын
while i mostly agree the massive disease deaths did help in New England and there are period accounts of the wilderness actually being insanely well kept, like open gardens, which.. duh.. there were millions of people here haha. As you pointed out
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
When you’re so good at farming it doesn’t even look like you’re farming to an untrained outside observer. I’m reminded of that time those British “explorers” in Africa found that big city built in a fractal pattern. But the “”explorers”” didn’t know about fractals yet - so they “deduced” that it “must have been” built without planning >.>
@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong
@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L The ol' "White people didn't do it, therefore it must have been accidental/magic/aliens"
@mtlewis973
@mtlewis973 2 жыл бұрын
i mean no shit
@Rowlesisgay
@Rowlesisgay 2 жыл бұрын
the natives weren't hippies- that's a misconception. they were scary good at farming, and pretty good at protecting environments, but had huge war deaths and deforested huge regions, including where I live. it is incredibly sad that huge cultural traditions and people groups just straight up died, and no one seems to remember. its quite sad. im not native though or an expert so feel free to tell me im an idiot:)
@enemyweeb2311
@enemyweeb2311 3 жыл бұрын
Fredrick Douglas’s speech had me hyped, that was powerful. I wish they’d teach that in schools and maybe they do but all I was taught was “he was an African American guy that existed and was friends with Abraham Lincoln” which is a damn shame.
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI 3 жыл бұрын
Been a while, glad to see your back.
@Username-cj8hm
@Username-cj8hm 3 жыл бұрын
Shaun movie part 3
@raem7846
@raem7846 3 жыл бұрын
I can mostly only see his front.
@buncha3arrows195
@buncha3arrows195 3 жыл бұрын
It may surprise believers in American exceptionalism that the Founding Fathers' ideals of "all men are created equal" were already thought of centuries before by an Ethiopian philosopher.
@معرفةوترفيه-ت2ظ
@معرفةوترفيه-ت2ظ 3 жыл бұрын
And unlike our dear founding fathers, that Ethiopian philosopher actually meant it and didn't exclude human beings they owned.
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
@Aryan Nationalist
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
@Aryan Nationalist Bantu people successfully defeated apartheid. "Aryan nationalists" achieved.... Being defeated in less than couple decades.
@cm9241
@cm9241 3 жыл бұрын
@Aryan Nationalist imagine your entire ideology being "14 year old on 4chan for the first time" lmao
@dargondude2375
@dargondude2375 3 жыл бұрын
@Aryan Nationalist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zera_Yacob_(philosopher) This is just stupid.
@hope1575
@hope1575 2 жыл бұрын
Even with the whitewashed and watered-down version of history I learned in the American South, I was still deeply affected and deeply disappointed to learn about the history of slavery and other forms of opression that existed for the majority of American history. I cried about slavery, the Trail of Tears, the civil rights movement. And in reality it was so much worse than I was ever told about in school... I will never understand how people can excuse all of that and think none of it defines what America is and has been.
@spintt
@spintt Жыл бұрын
Same! Even a whitewashed American history is disappointing
@goingunder2548
@goingunder2548 Жыл бұрын
Same problem in the UK. The only thing we ever learned in relation to the British empire is transportation of convicts to Australia. Never learned about the many other horrifying things related to the British Empire until I was in my 20s.
@KingAntDaProphet
@KingAntDaProphet Жыл бұрын
Thank you gentlemen
@LucarioDoT
@LucarioDoT 2 жыл бұрын
Reminder that conservatives say "Cultural Marxism" because "Judeo-Bolshevism" is too much of a giveaway
@yoloswaggins7121
@yoloswaggins7121 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I love this. They have so many buzzwords like "globalists", "cultural Marxists", "zionists". They think they are hiding their racism but we all know who they are really talking about
@LucarioDoT
@LucarioDoT 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoloswaggins7121 It's just pure antisemitism, not racism.
@yoloswaggins7121
@yoloswaggins7121 2 жыл бұрын
@@LucarioDoT antisemitism is a form of racism
@BitspokesV2
@BitspokesV2 Жыл бұрын
@@yoloswaggins7121Jews aren’t a race though, they’re an ethnoreligious geoup
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 4 ай бұрын
Plus it was made up by William S. Lind, aka one of the worst living authors ever who's so racist, sexist, homophobic, religiously intolerant, and clueless I hope he steps on a million LEGOs barefoot.
@frickinfrick8488
@frickinfrick8488 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really messed up how many people use Martin Luther King’s speeches to support “colour blind” policies and against reparations when he very vocally advocated for affirmative action. They’re selectively quoting him to attack everything he stood for, the disrespect is unmeasurable.
@zunlise2341
@zunlise2341 3 жыл бұрын
The unfortunate Martin "Whitewashed" King
@jerw7671
@jerw7671 3 жыл бұрын
People also forget his economic views, reganomics is cancer
@Lee-dm7xm
@Lee-dm7xm 3 жыл бұрын
Shaun: I’ll show two Simpsons characters they had the same vibe as Me: ohoho, I bet he’ll show Ned Flanders Shaun: *shows Lyle Langley* Me: oh no
@Bacony_Cakes
@Bacony_Cakes 3 жыл бұрын
Ned is an honest man.
@alsyrriad
@alsyrriad 3 жыл бұрын
Frederick Douglas really ripped the United States a new one with that speech, didn’t he? Like... *damn.*
@alexmartinez5859
@alexmartinez5859 3 жыл бұрын
Well what can you expect when you’re born being called property, gain freedom from it after making an escape, spend the rest of your life fighting like hell to end the hell you experienced when you were younger, see the country break out into full on war, fight for the president to acknowledge that the United States was fighting over slavery, see the man who led his country get assassinated, and have things go back to normal while the only thing gone in an official capacity is slavery. Frederick Douglas’s life is a long storied one that I would love to see be turned into a great movie, simply for the weight his name carries with his acts.
@cmbeadle2228
@cmbeadle2228 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the odd things about "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July" is that many Americans are only familiar with it in a very truncated form that misses Douglass' thesis. The speech was not a blanket condemnation of the signatories of the Founding Fathers, as indicated by these paragraphs: "Fellow Citizens, I am not wanting in respect for the fathers of this republic. The signers of the Declaration of Independence were brave men. They were great men too - great enough to give fame to a great age. It does not often happen to a nation to raise, at one time, such a number of truly great men. The point from which I am compelled to view them is not, certainly, the most favorable; and yet I cannot contemplate their great deeds with less than admiration. They were statesmen, patriots and heroes, and for the good they did, and the principles they contended for, I will unite with you to honor their memory... "They were peace men; but they preferred revolution to peaceful submission to bondage. They were quiet men; but they did not shrink from agitating against oppression. They showed forbearance; but that they knew its limits. They believed in order; but not in the order of tyranny. With them, nothing was “settled” that was not right. With them, justice, liberty and humanity were “final;” not slavery and oppression. You may well cherish the memory of such men. They were great in their day and generation. Their solid manhood stands out the more as we contrast it with these degenerate times. "How circumspect, exact and proportionate were all their movements! How unlike the politicians of an hour! Their statesmanship looked beyond the passing moment, and stretched away in strength into the distant future. They seized upon eternal principles, and set a glorious example in their defense. Mark them! "Fully appreciating the hardship to be encountered, firmly believing in the right of their cause, honorably inviting the scrutiny of an on-looking world, reverently appealing to heaven to attest their sincerity, soundly comprehending the solemn responsibility they were about to assume, wisely measuring the terrible odds against them, your fathers, the fathers of this republic, did, most deliberately, under the inspiration of a glorious patriotism, and with a sublime faith in the great principles of justice and freedom, lay deep the corner-stone of the national superstructure, which has risen and still rises in grandeur around you." Douglass, like all the smarter abolitionists, had a savvy and political heart (it's why he fell out with more "extreme" white abolitionists like John Brown and William Garrison) - he would not have wished to provide ammo to his opponents by suggesting that the venerated Founding Fathers were on their side! The speech far more describes the degeneration of the United States frm its lofty ideals (he also throws the Church in there as well: it's an intensely religious speech that says the supine and slave-defending religious establishment have done far more damage to the church than infidels like Paine and Voltaire), rather than a condemnation of the American project as a whole.So passages that seem to condemn the framers of the constitution, and even frame England as morally superior: "Fellow-citizens! I will not enlarge further on your national inconsistencies. The existence of slavery in this country brands your republicanism as a sham, your humanity as a base pretence, and your Christianity as a lie. It destroys your moral power abroad; it corrupts your politicians at home. It saps the foundation of religion; it makes your name a hissing, and a bye-word to a mocking earth. It is the antagonistic force in your government, the only thing that seriously disturbs and endangers your Union. It fetters your progress; it is the enemy of improvement, the deadly foe of education; it fosters pride; it breeds insolence; it promotes vice; it shelters crime; it is a curse to the earth that supports it; and yet, you cling to it, as if it were the sheet anchor of all your hopes. Oh! be warned! be warned! a horrible reptile is coiled up in your nation’s bosom; the venomous creature is nursing at the tender breast of your youthful republic; for the love of God, tear away, and fling from you the hideous monster, and let the weight of twenty millions crush and destroy it forever! But it is answered in reply to all this, that precisely what I have now denounced is, in fact, guaranteed and sanctioned by the Constitution of the United States; that the right to hold and to hunt slaves is a part of that Constitution framed by the illustrious Fathers of this Republic. Then, I dare to affirm, notwithstanding all I have said before, your fathers stooped, basely stooped To palter with us in a double sense: And keep the word of promise to the ear, But break it to the heart. And instead of being the honest men I have before declared them to be, they were the veriest imposters that ever practiced on mankind. This is the inevitable conclusion, and from it there is no escape are immediately followed by th Fellow-citizens! there is no matter in respect to which, the people of the North have allowed themselves to be so ruinously imposed upon, as that of the pro-slavery character of the Constitution. In that instrument I hold there is neither warrant, license, nor sanction of the hateful thing; but, interpreted as it ought to be interpreted, the Constitution is a GLORIOUS LIBERTY DOCUMENT. Read its preamble, consider its purposes. Is slavery among them? Is it at the gateway? or is it in the temple? It is neither. While I do not intend to argue this question on the present occasion, let me ask, if it be not somewhat singular that, if the Constitution were intended to be, by its framers and adopters, a slave-holding instrument, why neither slavery, slaveholding, nor slave can anywhere be found in it. What would be thought of an instrument, drawn up, legally drawn up, for the purpose of entitling the city of Rochester to a track of land, in which no mention of land was made? Now, there are certain rules of interpretation, for the proper understanding of all legal instruments. These rules are well established. They are plain, common-sense rules, such as you and I, and all of us, can understand and apply, without having passed years in the study of law. I scout the idea that the question of the constitutionality or unconstitutionality of slavery is not a question for the people. I hold that every American citizen has a right to form an opinion of the constitution, and to propagate that opinion, and to use all honorable means to make his opinion the prevailing one. Without this right, the liberty of an American citizen would be as insecure as that of a Frenchman. Ex-Vice-President Dallas tells us that the Constitution is an object to which no American mind can be too attentive, and no American heart too devoted. He further says, the Constitution, in its words, is plain and intelligible, and is meant for the home-bred, unsophisticated understandings of our fellow-citizens. Senator Berrien tell us that the Constitution is the fundamental law, that which controls all others. The charter of our liberties, which every citizen has a personal interest in understanding thoroughly. The testimony of Senator Breese, Lewis Cass, and many others that might be named, who are everywhere esteemed as sound lawyers, so regard the constitution. I take it, therefore, that it is not presumption in a private citizen to form an opinion of that instrument. Now, take the Constitution according to its plain reading, and I defy the presentation of a single pro-slavery clause in it. On the other hand it will be found to contain principles and purposes, entirely hostile to the existence of slavery.
@austentallman1427
@austentallman1427 3 жыл бұрын
Also wrote a seriously excellent biography of John Brown, probably the greatest white man alive in America before the Civil War
@alexmartinez5859
@alexmartinez5859 3 жыл бұрын
@@austentallman1427 Interesting, yes. Greatest, no. I don’t think violence should be the way to deal with problems where dialogue, meaningful dialogue between two or more sides, can fix it that much more. Brown did understand that words did fail and had failed. The problem comes from the standpoint that Brown wanted to cause a slave uprising. I’m all for the slaves getting their freedom. Believe me. The problem comes from the violence against people. It wouldn’t have solved anything and would’ve validated some underlying fears among white southerners at the time. Yes, it would have put the fear of God into them, but the problem is when the fear of God is put into someone against a violent threat it usually leads to a bigger show of force. Thus, perpetuating violence, which leads to violence for violence’s sake and an end to civil discourse among people. In the end, no one wins and everyone loses. So, John Brown is a good man, his morals and actions before the planning of the raid definitely show it, but his methods after Harper’s Ferry detract from his greatness and corrupt his morals to a goal warped by hatred of his opponents.
@austentallman1427
@austentallman1427 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmartinez5859 violence by the oppressed against the oppressors is good and just. Inaction in the face of slavery is far worse violence
@Tha_Pencil
@Tha_Pencil Жыл бұрын
That Frederick Douglas speech at the end was merciless. It was so passionate snd powerful. How people still celebrate 4th of July afterwards is beyond me
@jixer1956
@jixer1956 Жыл бұрын
IKR. And conservatives quote-mined him as saying exactly the opposite. How much more disingenuous can you get?
@berkleypearl2363
@berkleypearl2363 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so mad we never got to actually read anything written by Fredrick Douglas in school. Hot damn that man was good.
@lotsofuwuenergy3983
@lotsofuwuenergy3983 3 жыл бұрын
Same, along with James Baldwin. Talented writers.
@mechatyrants6218
@mechatyrants6218 3 жыл бұрын
You should seek out some of his works, he was a truly gifted writer and there's a lot more even in that same speech to love. The same for MLKJr., their words sit among the best speeches ever written, as well as some truly great moral philosophy.
@charliekowittmusic
@charliekowittmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 Just recently stumbled onto Baldwin, and I consumed every written/recorded word so fast I couldn’t help myself! Btw, Eddie Glaude’s recent book connecting Baldwin to race in America today is so powerful. It’s called “Begin Again” and I can’t recommend it enough. ✌️
@nathandrake5544
@nathandrake5544 3 жыл бұрын
I read the Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass as high school summer reading. A bit of a letdown because he never discusses how he ultimately escaped from slavery, but nevertheless very compelling.
@missmelodies52
@missmelodies52 3 жыл бұрын
So good! And he was a feminist activist at the same time.
@marinary1326
@marinary1326 3 жыл бұрын
Lately I've been watching a lot of KZbin videos at 1.25x speed. But not this one. Not Shaun's. He deserves every second of my attention that he's demanded and his voice demands to be heard at precisely the calm, dryly sarcastic cadence that Shaun intends.
@dylanschmidt9056
@dylanschmidt9056 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, keep practicing and you'll get to 2.0x speed soon enough.
@cheekypercy5413
@cheekypercy5413 3 жыл бұрын
I watch basically every video on KZbin at 2x speed so I can consume more media
@nob2243
@nob2243 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheekypercy5413 *CONSOOM*
@crimsonkate8241
@crimsonkate8241 3 жыл бұрын
Do you also play vinyl albums at 45rpm? lol Sorry, I'm old & besides the ability to consume a little bit more media I personally don't see the appeal & wonder how well absorbed said media is when you're not giving your mind time to process it. Each to their own though! Also seeing as I'm old, Thomas The Tank Engine has really changed since I was a kid but I'm liking the new direction lol :)
@marinary1326
@marinary1326 3 жыл бұрын
@@crimsonkate8241 Lol, I could never listen to music at a different speed, it just feels so wrong! But my brain moves fast enough that it's actually easier for me to focus on videos when they're at a bit higher speed, keeps my mind from wandering off :P Maybe when I'm old though I'll have to slow back down, watch the AI-produced VR video essays at treguar speed like a boomer or something
@iammrbeat
@iammrbeat 3 жыл бұрын
So many times, the best way to fight many of these "isms" you speak of is to teach and promote critical thinking. As long as we can all be easily manipulated, these isms will persist.
@cbowser3
@cbowser3 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t be said better
@jameslarimer9211
@jameslarimer9211 3 жыл бұрын
Skepticism, in particular.
@beesindisguise5375
@beesindisguise5375 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameslarimer9211 but that’s an ism >:O /s
@affordablecareactof
@affordablecareactof 3 жыл бұрын
@@beesindisguise5375 1️⃣9️⃣8️⃣4️⃣
@seekingabsolution1907
@seekingabsolution1907 2 жыл бұрын
That's what anarchists emphasize in their education, you don't want them to thoughtlessly accept your perspective you want them to give it some genuine critical thought and come to those conclusions by their own path.
@fvtown
@fvtown 3 жыл бұрын
The creationist as the monorail salesman is just too perfect
@dontspikemydrink9382
@dontspikemydrink9382 3 жыл бұрын
Lyle Langley
@osonhouston
@osonhouston 3 жыл бұрын
Shaun: There's no way to get away from this contradiction. Me: Have you heard of cognitive dissonance?
@patnewbie2177
@patnewbie2177 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how rightists cite Orwell ad nauseum when they are clearly the biggest purveyors of doublethink.
@patnewbie2177
@patnewbie2177 3 жыл бұрын
@Adiv Inhell I don't wanna be sectarian, this is basic human psychology and we're all susceptible to it. It just seems like rightists blatantly base their worldview around it
@skreeran
@skreeran 3 жыл бұрын
@Adiv Inhell unf I feel that jab at MLs was unnecessary, but you do you comrade
@BenGrem917
@BenGrem917 3 жыл бұрын
@@skreeran Authoritarians of all varieties don't like admitting to flaws in their authority. It undermines their belief system. They loathe hearing about how their favorite leaders did terrible things. I have yet to meet an ML who won't try to rationalize and excuse Soviet atrocities to me. That's assuming they're intellectually honest enough to not deny them outright as being merely the ravings of Western capitalist colonialist propaganda. Even when I have sources from inside the USSR. Most resort to base ad hominems and aspersions about your capacity to appreciate the glorious revolution.
@Imbalanxd
@Imbalanxd 3 жыл бұрын
both "sides" are guilty of this. I've never seen the chapter on womanizing and abuse in an MLK biography, or a page about Ghandis racism, or Mandela's violent terrorism. When one side does it too much it kinda leaves no option for the other.
@SL-gz9gq
@SL-gz9gq 3 жыл бұрын
Wake up babe new Shaun video
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
The "vast untamed wilderness" ignores the reality that native peoples were already roaming, settling, taming animals such as the turkey and the dog, and doing forest management in the form of setting controlled fires to remove undergrowth to assist in hunting and movement. Many Europeans used the trail paths made by native peoples. Sure, there were places that returned to the status of untamed wilderness after diseases introduced by Europeans spread and destroyed many villages of native peoples.
@felicityc
@felicityc 3 жыл бұрын
It's very likely there were much larger populations that were forced to migrate or were wiped out due to disease, and those weren't just 'villages', but entire societies and empires. Don't underplay central America or even some of the great nations in North America like the Iroquois Federation (who had a better government system than we do... still), Creek Confederacies, etc- imagine how much larger they must have been before being exposed to one-sided pandemics.
@agraham9099
@agraham9099 3 жыл бұрын
I’m only at 22:40, but I hope the video goes in on how absolutely evil and insidious the phrase “none may rule another without his consent” is, especially in the context of the Constitution writers and their enslavement of human beings. It’s not just about ignoring slavery, it implies that the people forced into bondage *consented* to their treatment. It’s straight up slavery apologia. My brain short circuited when I read the pull quite for that part. The deep and unbridled evil of the writers of the 1776 report is terrifying.
@saucejohnson4105
@saucejohnson4105 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love your take, hope you liked the video
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
Plus the people “consent” to the government and therefore everything the government says has popular support and therefore by living there you “consent” to this, that, and the other. Like the “except in cases of imprisonment” clause later-on
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't cover it, but I instantly peeped that as well. I guess we know who Kanye cribbed notes from.
@snarblegauz6710
@snarblegauz6710 3 жыл бұрын
The bit about the two professors debating reminds me a lot of my sixth grade science teacher, who was very charismatic and well liked among the students, told my class that climate change wasn't real and used to carbon cycle as his proof of this. For years that stuck with me and I truly believed climate change wasn't real because an authority figure had assured me as much at a young age
@corneliousism
@corneliousism 3 жыл бұрын
Human caused climate change isn’t a threat. The future which technocrats have in store for us is however a very large threat. You can find out about the sinister goings on very easily if you hunt around the internet.
@Kevorama0205
@Kevorama0205 3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliousism Which future is a very large threat? And why do technocrats want it?
@QuikVidGuy
@QuikVidGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliousism the technocrats are capitalists causing climate disasters
@snarblegauz6710
@snarblegauz6710 3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliousism sure, maybe if you don't live in the global south, an under-developed country, or any other area stricken by climate disaster there might be other things more worrying for you
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliousism We already have climate change refugees and seawater in some of Miami's streets, at high tide. But, you know, you're going to believe what you want.
@purrspctiv
@purrspctiv 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh boy, I should’ve known that report would be right up your alley. Time for a Shaun extended special!
@darrishawks6033
@darrishawks6033 3 жыл бұрын
"What we can charitably refer to as the President's mind" lmao what a sick burn
@SpoopySquid
@SpoopySquid 3 жыл бұрын
"My country, right or wrong. If right, to be kept right; if wrong, to be set right." - US senator Carl Schurz, 1871
@MM-xm8ot
@MM-xm8ot 3 жыл бұрын
OMG shaun uploaded my night isn't ruined anymore
@Ernils
@Ernils 3 жыл бұрын
"What we can charitably refer to as the president's mind." Damn, I love the the dryness of Shaun's deliveries! Makes these videos so enjoyable to listen to. Great work, great essay!
@tkdyo
@tkdyo 3 жыл бұрын
The term "Patriotic education" should raise the hairs on everyone's neck, especially those who love to call everything that challenges them "Orwellian"
@videlvasq
@videlvasq 3 жыл бұрын
Dunno if I'm the only one who does this but I like to listen to Shaun's videos with full attention once and then I just use them as asmr/background noise after that
@aftokratory
@aftokratory 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too! I use it to help me fall asleep. 😂 His videos are fantastic and engaging and all but his calm voice and reasonable tone compared to everything else on the internet just makes me drowsy.
@qwertydog9795
@qwertydog9795 3 жыл бұрын
I listened to this video while putting on my makeup 😹
@KingAntDaProphet
@KingAntDaProphet Жыл бұрын
It's like my study guide
@MacellaioNero
@MacellaioNero 3 жыл бұрын
There was a little moment, before we got to 17:42, where I had forgotten the way Trump speaks. I'd allowed myself that. There's no way historians will remember him as he was. It's too surreal, even now, that this man was President.
@AbstractTraitorHero
@AbstractTraitorHero 3 жыл бұрын
We have mass amounts of video. Unlike earlier points in history, future historians will just be able to put on thousands of old videos
@vassilizaitzev1
@vassilizaitzev1 3 жыл бұрын
You read the report? Props to you Shaun. I couldn’t get through the whole thing. It was bad.
@imalwaysbluffing
@imalwaysbluffing 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@WMDistraction
@WMDistraction 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t get through news stories reporting on the damn thing.
@bismuthcrystal9658
@bismuthcrystal9658 3 жыл бұрын
"if all men are equal, then none may by right rule another without his consent." Fun when the *White House* puts out a document saying, "Yes, sovereign citizens are right."
@jaojao1768
@jaojao1768 3 жыл бұрын
When the White House discovers anarchism
@smaaack
@smaaack 24 күн бұрын
4:02 sorry Shaun, it looks like we’ve entered the bad timeline
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