Shaving Horse from 2X4's

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Rick Mayotte

Rick Mayotte

Күн бұрын

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@snakejumper3277
@snakejumper3277 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Simple, to the point, & clear with no added fluff or irritating music.
@benjaminadair9548
@benjaminadair9548 2 күн бұрын
It's so nice to see those ol fashion drills with those cords coming out of them
@pstmart
@pstmart 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! I made one following your design. Love your common man approach to whipping something together!
@rusted1072
@rusted1072 6 жыл бұрын
I like your build so I have turned it into a Dad Daughter project. We are half way through and it has some basic woodworking skills that I feel are worthwhile passing down as I believe in being able to use your hands. Thanks for taking the time to put the video up.
@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS
@VOGTLANDOUTDOORS 3 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL VIDEO ! YOU & YOUR DESIGN are among the ONLY DIY builders who have an ACCURATE UNDERSTANDING of the "spirit" of a SHAVING HORSE :-O I see "antique" shave horses made of SCRAP lumber selling for well over $350... I see NEW shave horses ALSO made from SCRAP lumber, and the sellers on eBay expect a whopping $450 for them :-O ... STUPIFYING ! YOUR design is PRECISELY what a shave horse is SUPPOSED to be: SCRAP LUMBER. SIMPLE DESIGN. BUILT IN AN AFTERNOON... or it's TOO COMPLICATED. WELL DONE YOU. GUESS whose design I'M BUILDING on my day off this Friday ! (YOUR design) Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@grejen711
@grejen711 4 сағат бұрын
So basically new shave horses made from antique lumber? LOLs Yeah I have some "antique" lumber laying around :D
@Moonshinedave1
@Moonshinedave1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rick, for the video, this is exactly the video I have been looking for. I don't want to carve one out of a oak tree like most of the videos seem to want to show (exaggeration, of course) which if fine if you have the time, I don't. I wanted something I could build out of scrap 2x4's your video fills the bill. Just something simple that works. Might not make it into the woodworker's hall of fame, but who cares? God bless and have a wonderful day.
@WCRichardson100
@WCRichardson100 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Very Much!!! Ive been wanting to build a shaving horse for awhile. All the others I've seen are pretty in depth. This is simple and does what it needs to do. I have all the material that I've been saving for the "Just in case' pile for odd projects. Not only will it make my pile smaller but I can now have something useful to check off my gotta have list.
@brycenew
@brycenew 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the simplicity and relative cheapness of this Rick! For someone with no experience and a tight budget, it's gold! Thanks
@horseblinderson4747
@horseblinderson4747 4 жыл бұрын
It's a hundred bucks in 2020 prices.
@armedpatriot8611
@armedpatriot8611 4 жыл бұрын
@@horseblinderson4747 lmao where do you buy lumber?
@nairbllebpmac4179
@nairbllebpmac4179 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I want to start building chairs by hand and this shaving horse will be more than enough for a beginner chair builder. I am a disabled veteran on a fixed income and I am always on the lookout for projects that don't cost a lot of money.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. Let us know how your chairs turn out and thank you for your service!
@nairbllebpmac4179
@nairbllebpmac4179 7 жыл бұрын
I certainly will and you are welcome!
@fredvanduyne8684
@fredvanduyne8684 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to get started on this project soon and plan on having several options for the work surfaces as well. BTW I own the same bandsaw and drill press that you showed us in your video and I also have the table saw and radial arm saw that match. I enjoy working with the vintage power tools.
@plum1000
@plum1000 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Really like the simplicity and the ease of modifying for longer arms and legs. We recently had a day of wind gusts which brought down the wood I needed to try to make something. I have a "zero clearance" garage so something simple will help tremendously. I do own a Jawhorse that gets heavier and heavier as the years pile on... this will be a welcome accessory for an older guy. I can drop in a desktop and bicycle seat for the old rear end (and make it wider). All in all... it'll be a fun work station. Thanks.
@mossturn01
@mossturn01 6 жыл бұрын
What a splendid simple and easy to make shavehorse. I've needed one for a long time but never got round to it. Maybe now I will. Thankyou for posting. Regards, Ian.
@Over_The_Hill_Phil
@Over_The_Hill_Phil 5 жыл бұрын
Simple and Basic structure that's highly adaptive. Brilliant, Thanks for sharing.
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge 8 жыл бұрын
Have you done anything with the spoon mule attachment idea?
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 8 жыл бұрын
Not yet. I hope to making some spoons this fall and will build that attachment just before I need it.
@humanhanddesign8857
@humanhanddesign8857 7 жыл бұрын
Best design out there, especially with the spoon mule adaptor. Nice.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. It's always nice to be appreciated!
@bobamy5560
@bobamy5560 8 жыл бұрын
I have been messing around with shaving horses for awhile and I very much thank you. There is not allot of videos out there on these. I have tried a similar style out of 2x4s and have found that the pine cracks very easily and does not take wear and tear well. Just in my experience. A couple things if I may and these are not meant in any way as an insult to the very nice one you have created. If you are looking for something nice for storage or travel. In the front and back, instead of screwing put lag bolts in and when you loosen them the legs will fold in. Also if you attach a block under the seat instead of screwing it down the seat then rides the slot and is adjustable and easily removable. Thank you once again for sharing.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked the video and thanks for your input! I had originally considered bolting the whole thing together but in the end I decided that it wasn't necessary for my situation and needs. But you're right that it would fold down smaller and store away in less space if built with nuts and bolts instead of screws.
@bettygough9208
@bettygough9208 7 жыл бұрын
Rick Mayotte plans
@דןגולדברג-צ6ע
@דןגולדברג-צ6ע 6 жыл бұрын
Bob Amy
@raygreen4572
@raygreen4572 6 жыл бұрын
Bob Amy 😤😤😤😠
@judycharvey5790
@judycharvey5790 6 жыл бұрын
I like the adjustable seat idea, I plan on building this. A bit longer so I can shave 32" long material. Thank you both for the build ideas!
@ha-y-in6938
@ha-y-in6938 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for the instructions, I took a note book took down all notes and tips. measurements will adjust as I am 6'2" so mine would be a little taller. but it's great to find the basics of wood working. I will build this and use it for my spoon carving adventures. thank you for taking the time to build on video so us that we may copy your horse.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome, I'm glad I could help! Let us know how yours turns out. I've just started making spoons and have a few videos on the subject. Check them out if you haven't already. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWnMaYCfp7KdhbM
@михаилроманов-ф7ч
@михаилроманов-ф7ч 8 ай бұрын
Отличная работа! Большое спасибо за видео!
@ericmoody1356
@ericmoody1356 7 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for a straight forward simple shave horse design, thank you for the upload. Sounds like a thick New England accent, greetings from Maine.
@dianefaccini9139
@dianefaccini9139 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Moody QA
@bobv8219
@bobv8219 10 ай бұрын
Fun to watch Rick , happy holidays bro, from northern coast California.
@WOODBARK100
@WOODBARK100 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rick - This is the perfect productive + "exercise machine" for me. I can keep this in my backyard and stay in shape while shaving wood to my heart's content - does not have to be a project . . . . kindling & fire starter for me and my neighbors !
@sriflute7318
@sriflute7318 7 жыл бұрын
i carve spoons from boxwood and olive,i also handcarve didjeridoos from cherry and plum wood,that chisel carving video was so really good,ive been for a few years getting bits of odl rebar and filing them down with an angle grinder,and filing them into shape to make three quatre metre length carving chisels to hollow out didjeriduus,but your techniques are easier
@TheBHoky
@TheBHoky 2 жыл бұрын
Dang it, now I will have to build one. Great video, thanks.
@EveryWhichWayButLost
@EveryWhichWayButLost 2 жыл бұрын
Nice and simple. The best usually are. You don't need to take the head apart to remove. Take out the wedge, lift it up then slide it down over the single leg.
@lumsdon15
@lumsdon15 6 жыл бұрын
a really usefull video Rick.Thanks .I am trying to make a horse for my son who is into all things steam punk and basic tools and I guess this will help.
@trekk-n-guidedieoutdoorpro3644
@trekk-n-guidedieoutdoorpro3644 Жыл бұрын
I love it! It will soon get a cousin in a foreign country...:-)! This ist he one for my little cabin in the woods...great job man! Thanks.
@adammcguinness9950
@adammcguinness9950 Жыл бұрын
That seemed pretty straight forward. I’m using hand tools so it takes a bit longer. Safer and more satisfying for me.
@ataarjomand
@ataarjomand 3 жыл бұрын
Very very nice design. Thanks a lot.
@lutherhgrindstonemtn3456
@lutherhgrindstonemtn3456 5 жыл бұрын
Very simple, easy to build and gets the job done! Thanks for sharing your idea!
@TheGreasemonkey76
@TheGreasemonkey76 8 жыл бұрын
great video. I'm working on the same idea, I'm trying to work in a tiny 7x9 shed so every thing needs as useful as possible. The base will be a saw bench then and "heads" for a shaving horse and leather stitching pony, and whatever else comes up.
@victorcastle1840
@victorcastle1840 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea of the leather stitching pony . I would like to see the drop in leather clamp, you came up with for it !
@petestaehling
@petestaehling 4 жыл бұрын
A few comments. First, nice video. Second, you don't need to remove the pivot bolt to change attachments. Just drive out the wedge and it will slide over the single leg on the end just fine with no disassembly at all. I built a horse of similar dimensions inspired by your's and really like it. I also built a stitching horse attachment, but have not yet built a spoon mule or other attachments other than the shaving horse and stitching horse. I may or may not build others such as a spoon mule on an as needed basis.
@WynneEden
@WynneEden 7 жыл бұрын
I've always been partial to the solid based horses, but your video and a few other folks' instructions are starting to convince me this is super useful, and it's likely a good bit lighter than one made with a 2x12. I think I'll need a longer support base for bow staves though, so may do a more traditional base. One thing about breaking it down or simply swapping out for the spoon mule - you don't *really* need to take the clamping head off - just slip it off the front foot.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
As with most things, I know that some will like it and some will not - but it's worked out well for me. It's lighter, takes up less room and I'm able to utilize the base for different uses. The trade off is that sometimes having a heavier base is desirable for various reasons. If you go with the design let us know how it works out for you.
@lylachristopherson865
@lylachristopherson865 7 жыл бұрын
Nice, elegant design very well executed. The editing of the video makes it a joy to watch as well. I intend to make one using your technique. Thank you.
@DonLemont
@DonLemont 7 жыл бұрын
nice work as always Rick looking forward to the bowl horse attachment.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don, It'll probably be a few months before I start the bowl making project but it is definitely on my list.
@JohnWasser
@JohnWasser 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Reminds me of the collapsable shaving horse I designed and built from five 8' pieces of 2x4 lumber. When not in use it could collapse down to about 5'6" x 6" x 21". It even had a wide seat for comfort.
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 3 жыл бұрын
This is GREAT stuff . Kudos from an Englishman.
@rolandotapullimaguerra8627
@rolandotapullimaguerra8627 3 жыл бұрын
Good job sir, thank you for sharing your work ability, can you tell me the height of the shaver horse from the floor to the seat?
@beneditowagnergarciafaria1421
@beneditowagnergarciafaria1421 2 жыл бұрын
Very good! Ótimo trabalho e arte! Grato por compartilhar seus conhecimentos conosco! Saudações do Brasil!
@oubaasjohn
@oubaasjohn 2 жыл бұрын
I like it. Good design.
@American-Plague
@American-Plague 6 жыл бұрын
VERY NICE JOB! I've been looking for a simple design like this (out of 2×4's or something similar). Thanks!
@icespeckledhens
@icespeckledhens 8 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty good and a bonus as it is made from scrap timber
@hsntrkmnturkiye5326
@hsntrkmnturkiye5326 5 жыл бұрын
My friend, I like your work ... you're great.
@terry2346
@terry2346 4 жыл бұрын
Made one with the club head and quite a bit longer! Looks like some revisions are due for mine! Really like the spoon mule as well. On my list for my shop! Thanks
@bascostbudde7614
@bascostbudde7614 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! A nice, concise yet comprehensive walkthrough.
@judycharvey5790
@judycharvey5790 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I plan on making one a bit longer with an adjustable seat!
@stevebenz758
@stevebenz758 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Great video. I built one like this years ago (seat was made out of 2x and shaped by hand). I stored it outside and it developed a wonderful 'patina" over time. I used to take it to Art shows and demonstrate spindles for chairmaking. Folks were always asking me "where did you get that antique"! It looked very old very fast. and perfect for drawing spindles too!
@cboutdoors9120
@cboutdoors9120 5 жыл бұрын
Simple yet very effective! Thanks for sharing. I see one like this in my future!
@juanlongoria5050
@juanlongoria5050 4 жыл бұрын
Oh que bien invento. Muy buen trabajo señor. If this is your invention, is very nice and good tool to work more comfortable.
@1planters
@1planters 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's an older video but how do you determine what the angles of both the rear legs and back legs. What's the trick? TY
@TemplesLongtailsandFurs
@TemplesLongtailsandFurs 4 жыл бұрын
How has this horse held up? I'd like to build one similar, with the multiple attachments, one of them being a stitching clamp for my leather works.
@henrimoffett3683
@henrimoffett3683 7 жыл бұрын
Like this guy already just cause the New Englanda accent. You got a subscriber from New Hampshire
@victorcastle1840
@victorcastle1840 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video , Sir. I just subbed because of this video. I have been aiming to make one for years, being disabled for some time they would be to heavy to move around until I needed it again. This solved the problem. Thanks again. .........vic
@fchristof
@fchristof 6 жыл бұрын
victor castle a
@lialos
@lialos 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome project!
@1planters
@1planters 2 жыл бұрын
I'll try again. I've got the basic frame put together, and I went with an overall length of 54". Yours looks to be maybe 40". Mine just seems too long, and I have limited shop space so stashing anything away is a problem. Do you think i should cut it back to say 46"? I thought the length would make it easier to make axe handles and such.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the length of the top will make that much difference, you should still be able to work on longer pieces. It's hard for me to give advice on the measurements. I made mine to fit me. As long as the height, length etc. are comfortable for you than it should be okay. I hope this helps.
@seanratten9567
@seanratten9567 Жыл бұрын
The first 60 seconds scared the crap out of me..Crossing your arms using a drop saw😮 Don’t try that at home kids!!
@sb2261
@sb2261 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Rick.
@oleran4569
@oleran4569 4 жыл бұрын
Real shop. Real work. Real good!
@thetortoiseis2593
@thetortoiseis2593 5 жыл бұрын
I went to your website to ask this, but the submit button disappeared when i typed my message and it would never let me send it. What were the lengths of wood you used for the individual parts? I would like to make this design but i dont know what lengths you used so i dont know the ratios in proportions for modification to make it a bit larger. Just leg heights, length of bench and any other pertinent info would be great, thank you.
@stuartosborne6263
@stuartosborne6263 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant job, thankyou for sharing.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 7 жыл бұрын
what a great and fairly simple design. I will have to build one of these out of stronger wood as I am a bit heavier then you appear, and I don't think it would last long under my weight. How long do you think the runners should be for carving/shaving ax handles? Thanks.
@stevenlarsen1691
@stevenlarsen1691 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Great video.
@gebhardt244
@gebhardt244 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to learn more about the other options you can excange for differend uses. Is there a video for that?
@josecarlosramirez9936
@josecarlosramirez9936 3 жыл бұрын
Rick is great!!! Thanks var
@2spoons
@2spoons 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome Work! and super easy to follow! Nice work!
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@DraganIlich-r1s
@DraganIlich-r1s Ай бұрын
Thank you Sir.🎉
@johnoconnor99
@johnoconnor99 7 жыл бұрын
love the way you work. good video.
@kshobbiest6453
@kshobbiest6453 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea and SYSTEM--thanks Jim
@ericwoodward5102
@ericwoodward5102 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant well done
@youenn2180
@youenn2180 8 жыл бұрын
Bloody skilful people over there ,a country I'd like to live in..
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 8 жыл бұрын
Thank You! What country are you In?
@youenn2180
@youenn2180 8 жыл бұрын
Brittany ,in France ...
@TheStormlord1
@TheStormlord1 8 жыл бұрын
Plenty of skilled people in France too though. Less prone to making videos, but they're out there.
@jonpatterson5668
@jonpatterson5668 4 жыл бұрын
Ok.. now I gotta look up " spoon mule "
@safari7905
@safari7905 6 ай бұрын
Could you give me the dimensions? What is the 2x4?Thanks!🖐
@thedancingpostman
@thedancingpostman 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'll be giving this a go myself.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 8 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome! I think you'll be happy with it. It works well and it's easy to store and move around.
@thedancingpostman
@thedancingpostman 8 жыл бұрын
I'll be posting a Video once I've finished it so you can see the result.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm looking forward to it!
@jettyenaartnoppen6542
@jettyenaartnoppen6542 8 жыл бұрын
Paul Tulk pui
@1planters
@1planters 2 жыл бұрын
Oops should have watched about 30 seconds more and there was my answer.
@collincourtois8587
@collincourtois8587 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Much appreciated.
@danieldumbarton5054
@danieldumbarton5054 7 жыл бұрын
Nice. Will have to make my own. Thanks.
@mustafakemalcinsulluoglu8586
@mustafakemalcinsulluoglu8586 4 жыл бұрын
thank you maestro
@cheflorenzo4491
@cheflorenzo4491 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for that! Luv it!
@kathryngardner8411
@kathryngardner8411 8 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed you video. Wish I could work that fast!
@jimarcher9574
@jimarcher9574 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to know the location of the pivot
@TheMagicAnne
@TheMagicAnne 7 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Well done!
@jayn9559
@jayn9559 Жыл бұрын
What angle was your first set of cuts
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 7 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this .its great .thanks ..I subscribed just based on this alone.keep em coming .
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@warriorextermworkout
@warriorextermworkout 7 жыл бұрын
very slick desgin . nice work. ! I'll be subcribing!
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lymanw.-nf8bw
@lymanw.-nf8bw Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kerrycomstock9220
@kerrycomstock9220 6 жыл бұрын
love your sign "this is my damn shop" LOL!!
@lawrencenewberry1583
@lawrencenewberry1583 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@lawrencenewberry1583
@lawrencenewberry1583 4 жыл бұрын
What do u do
@lawrencenewberry1583
@lawrencenewberry1583 4 жыл бұрын
DI u make things n your shop
@edlabadie7291
@edlabadie7291 4 жыл бұрын
You
@RiemannFan
@RiemannFan 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I finally have settled on building your version. I am persuaded by its simplicity and versatility. If you have made the spoon mule attachment then could you please make a short video simply to display it and show how it fits on to the frame? Great stuff, by the way! One modification I would like to make is to allow some adjustment on the seat and head positions. To achieve this I will need to increase the length of the frame. From counting the floorboards, I estimate the length of your frame to be 3 feet?
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 8 жыл бұрын
Hello, Yes, you are correct. My horse is about 3 feet long and 16 inches high. Keep in mind that I'm not a tall person and built this to be as compact as possible and still be comfortable for me to use. You may wish to build a little larger depending on your height. Several have asked about the spoon mule and I'm actually in the middle of recording a video on building the spoon mule attachment and hope to publish it within the next several days. Good luck with your project and feel free to comment on your progress!
@almchugh417
@almchugh417 7 жыл бұрын
Rick Mayotte
@hassanal-mosawi6049
@hassanal-mosawi6049 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing how and sharing that!
@dougdavis7599
@dougdavis7599 Жыл бұрын
do you have a video for the spoon head?
@SurvivalAussie
@SurvivalAussie 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea my friend. Thanks for making this video.
@jeanfourny8445
@jeanfourny8445 6 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, Félicitation pour ce banc à planer. Es ce que je peu avoir les dimensions de toutes les pièces. Je vous remercie d’avence
@HillCountryPrepper
@HillCountryPrepper 4 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch. I love having a project in my head and making it a reality.
@John-yt5zr
@John-yt5zr 4 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@fredford7642
@fredford7642 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what size of paint cans are necessary?
@fredford7642
@fredford7642 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!Thanks.
@adamtettran7471
@adamtettran7471 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video that's nice of you
@ScrambledO
@ScrambledO 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Was thinking about making one, but being a novice without a lot of tools... i will probably look for one second hand. thanks for sharing.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You could build this with a circular saw ( or a handsaw ), a bit brace and a hammer and chisel if you don't have a lot of tools. A bit brace works well to drive screws. I have the tools so I use them but a lot of what I do could easily be done with hand tools.
@ScrambledO
@ScrambledO 7 жыл бұрын
Rick Mayotte I actually probably do have all the tools, maybe not the mental "tools" haha. Probably would need to download an ebook and do it step by step. I don't quite have the mind or the eye for carpentry, yet. thanks for the help.
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 7 жыл бұрын
My last several videos have been geared more toward green wood working, spoon making at the moment but I plan on doing more with pole lathes and that sort of thing. Check them out if you get the chance but either way I appreciate the comments!
@American-Plague
@American-Plague 6 жыл бұрын
Scrambled Just a thought: a book/tutorial on basic geometry will help you in carpentry more than anything.
@williammarx4623
@williammarx4623 8 жыл бұрын
Now that you have had this for a while, are there any dimension or other things you'd change?
@RickMayotte
@RickMayotte 8 жыл бұрын
At this point I wouldn't change anything. Obviously, a taller person might want this a little higher off the floor and a little longer but this has been working out well for me.
@rodney73991
@rodney73991 8 жыл бұрын
i like this idea lot. it look kind short for you though when sat on it. if make future make longer. maybe put roller on it so table saw extol table as well. like idea lot first tripod shave horse ever seen.
@allanhorne6067
@allanhorne6067 Жыл бұрын
11.43 Not a unique thing - which part of never put screws into end grain are KZbin 'experts you believe' not understanding? A screws in end grain will just cut the wood fibres - use a hammer and nails.
@dodgybodger3124
@dodgybodger3124 6 жыл бұрын
Great job pal. That's a propper job as we say in the uk. Not sure about that saddle though ! I can see a bit of discomfort there lol.
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