Full Review of the Rhino Arc 2 | My Honest Opinions

[@robertfeliciano5723]

You brought up great points that I haven't seen in other reviews. Well done.

[@ShawnKoh]

Thank you! I’m glad I could help

[@mattcarlson12]

Thanks for an honest review and not a Rhino sponsored "review." Thumbs up!

[@ShawnKoh]

Thanks man! Hope it gave a clearer image of the product :)

[@vinwexler8112]

Appreciate the honest review and the listing of shortcomings of the unit - It's been hard to find honest reviews out there as Rhino has populated KZbin with paid reviews. Nothing is perfect and it's good to know the shortcoming. I just ordered mine and am looking forward to playing around with it.

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey Chris! I’m glad you appreciated the video, yes you’re right, reviews were meant to be honest and informative based on facts. It ain’t a promotional video for the brand :) Hope you enjoy the slider!!! :)

[@zuzkarory]

yeah. good on you for pointing out the cons....like the fact that as is, the rhino focus is almost useless. also don't remember if you mentioned that it was supposed to come with 5 keyframe points and now they are struggling to even give us 3.

[@ShawnKoh]

Rory S-B yeah I think the release of the slider was premature. They should have done alot more testing and user feedback before publicly releasing it. Such basic functions should have been sorted out.

[@stevegek]

How are you liking it now? Thanks Chris!

[@TymekStolarz]

@@zuzkarory have you been enjoying the slider? any issues with building quality/ damage or anything like that to the system when you first received it?

[@eddiehalim1517]

I love your review. I've been looking at various brands. I think this is the one and only honest review of the Rhino system. Thank you bro!

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey! Thank you so much for your support! My aim was to be as informative as I could so others can make informed decisions about the products :) glad you enjoyed it!

[@zrad4995]

buddy, ur review is way way way better than the other ones. power

[@ShawnKoh]

Aww thanks man! Really appreciate it!

[@MattShockley]

Can you use the focus module to zoom using a zoom lens instead of the focus?

[@ShawnKoh]

Yes you can, provided ur zoom ring isnt stiff. I've tried it on mine and it works, but i dont advise doing it too often. the motor was meant for the focus ring which is always looser/ smoother to turn.

[@MattShockley]

Shawn Koh so for using it with 24-70 2.8 ii or 70-200 2.8 iii would It work? Do you think it would break over a 2 hours of constant use?

[@RhinoCameraGear]

Solid review Shawn. Great points across the board. Hope the system has continued to deliver for you.

[@ShawnKoh]

Thanks, but there are many flaws and short-comings that you guys really need to look into.

[@RhinoCameraGear]

@@ShawnKoh we’re aware of them and working through them with updates.

[@modular8523]

Very good review- really helped me understand the capabilities and drawbacks of the system. 👍🏻

[@ShawnKoh]

Yeah I wanted to share my honest thoughts about this product, honestly its far from being a ready product

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

Very good review, sir.

[@ShawnKoh]

Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@joep615]

Thanks Shawn, very useful video. Just received my ARC II but not the slider yet. One question, how "noisy" is the unit?

[@ShawnKoh]

To be honest, I dont really notice the noise, usually if you’re outdoors its barely noticable :)

[@NiloToys]

Great review, thanks! Just purchase the Genie Mini 2. We’re doing product close ups and so far it has jitters, can’t use it for that. Further away takes, interviews shouldn’t be a problem, probably time lapses would be ok too. One puck is not working now after one short use, not sure why. We’re returning it and considering this Rhino. Too bad there isn’t a setup all dialed in for a more reasonable cost. I was told iFootage is a good product but good luck reaching the company! Thanks again!

[@ShawnKoh]

NiloToys yeah i guess each brand has their oen issues, i would suggest going to the Rhino Storytellers facebook page to read up more user feedback before buying a rhino. There are some issues that others experience that I didn’t.

[@badseedtech]

Hi Shawn - fantastic video! I'm curious about the adjustment plate that you showed in the video when attempting to center the camera over the pivot axis. Could you link it to me by chance? I do that shot a lot in my product shots and find myself continuing to use my original ARC setup for this. Thanks!

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey Man! I loved your video on the Arc 2 as well ! Just a disclaimer, the plate helps a bit, but doesn't totally solve the problem, mainly because the slider is still a straight track rather than a curved rail. I think you understand what I mean :) Scroll down to "Macro Rails" www.leofoto.info/precise-leveling-and-panorama-equipment/

[@badseedtech]

@@ShawnKoh Oh thanks man! I have high hopes for the next firmware update. I would settle for multiaxis shots tracking 100% in sync - I think the system has a lot of potential. I may be taking it head-to-head with the similarly equipped Edelkrone soon.

[@ShawnKoh]

@@badseedtech Sick! I bet lots of people are curious about that comparison! hopefully Rhino releases the update soon if they want a fighting chance!

[@al_muftah94]

have you tried going down with the high torque motor? because I keep hearing clicking sounds while going down but going up not so much

[@ShawnKoh]

I have tried that, it seems fine, maybe you need to loosen or tighten the belt drive. :)

[@andrewmusselwhite9458]

Hi I’m getting a slider but can’t make up my mind on the rhino or Syrp system. What are your thoughts. I will mainly be using it for timelaps

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey Andrew, I'm not too familiar with the Syrp Magic Carpet sliders, but from a quick look at the website I think they do not come with any pan or tilt functions. I'd say that if a single sliding motion is all you need for your timelapse then go with the Syrp. But if you want to experiment with more directional movements, then the Rhino will be good for that.

[@dnnises]

Went through the same thoughts... went with the rhino system.

[@baubergo]

Did you tested the edelkrone competition? If so, what are the pro and cons of them compared with the Arc II?

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey there, unfortunately I have not tried the Edelkrone sliders, but I'd say they might suit different types of shooters. I definitely envy the modularity and portability of the Edelkrone system. It would be a lot more suited for on-the-go shooters or travellers. The rhino slider seems more suited for a controlled environment such as a studio or a set.

[@baubergo]

@@ShawnKoh hey Shawn, thanks for your answer. Actually I might have to disagree with you, from what I've seen. The edelkrone option seems to suffer from bad battery life (using canon small dslr batteries on each module. Rather than the arc II that have this internal amazing battery). However, I'm going to use it for studio work most of the time, so this doesn't matter too much for me. I wish that someone could compare how the focus module work on both, that's extremely important for me. I know that arc II have huge limitations right now, but I don't know about the edelkrone system on the other hand. Thanks again and happy new year! :)

[@philippenewman]

Something I've been unclear on (having just received the Arc II) is that the SHutter Speed selection on the unit seems only to span from 1 second to 30 seconds. How does one go about setting something faster, or perhaps a transition of speeds or a manual approach...?

[@ShawnKoh]

I believe this is a set limitation, I have not tried it myself but i can briefly remember that there were not many options to extend the shutter durations. You could possibly make the shooting time longer still but during the timelapse when the camera moves and stops for the shot, i think its limited to that 30 seconds.

[@philippenewman]

@@ShawnKoh after playing with it today, I believe I've figured it out. It doesn't mean "shutter speed." It actually controls the duration between shutter exposures. Dumb, misleading name for the setting.

[@philippenewman]

@@ShawnKoh My issue wasn't the long side (30 seconds) but the fast. 1 second is the fastest? Makes no sense. After testing it, I noted that the shutter speed, as the function is called, wasn't even controlling the camera's shutter speed - it was merely controlling the duration between exposures. However, when I followed up with Rhino for clarification, they informed me that I was wrong - the Shutter Speed does control camera shutter speed. I returned it. Sorry. If your company CSR can't even speak accurately to the expensive systems you sell, you don't deserve my cash

[@brittacurkovic]

What solution did you find for placing the camera in the middle of the axis?

[@ShawnKoh]

Britta Curkovic watch the video at 10:29, i showed abit of the solution. You can buy these adjustment plates from Leophoto

[@NOYBNOYB]

Hey Shawn, I just ordered one of these yesterday. Its back-ordered and as I do more and more research I hear some horror stories. Should I be worried or are you having better luck than most? Thanks for the awesome video and info!

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey Noyb, ok so when I first got this slider, i was pretty excited and made this video. Of course in the video I did mention afew issues but those only scratched the surface. Rhino has been having alot of issues and complaints from their customers mainly because we did not get what was promised. The product was unfinished and should not have been released with so many bugs. At this point in time, their company is short on man-power and with COVID going on its even worst. I cannot recommend buying this product at the moment. I hope this helps.

[@NOYBNOYB]

@@ShawnKoh - Thanks for taking the time to respond! Man, I appreciate the info. Some of the features look incredible (face tracking etc...). I am going to give B&H a call and tell them to hold off on my order. Can't thank you enough!

[@ShawnKoh]

@@NOYBNOYB You're very welcome, glad I could help. I've pined a comment at the top, do have a read about my thoughts and of course check out the FB page "Rhino Story Tellers" to see what others are saying :)

[@JackChapman]

Very informative and in depth. Straight to the point. Keep up the great videos .

[@ShawnKoh]

Jack Chapman awesome! Im glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@ARIELLEJACOBSvoice]

Great video Shawn! Question-- What are the pros and cons of using a Fluid Head in addition to the Arc 2? Do you even need a Fluid Head, or would it do the same thing as the Arc 2?

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey there, thanks I’m glad you enjoyed the video. The ArcII essentially replaces ur fluid head so you don’t need to attach another one on it. It does the same functions :) hope this helps!

[@ARIELLEJACOBSvoice]

@@ShawnKoh Thanks for your help! You're awesome :)

[@dominoguru2]

When you move the arc2 joystick, can the camera record video simoutaneousky while moving joystick?

[@ShawnKoh]

Yes! The arc2 works independently from your camera unless u plug in the trigger cable.

[@creativesymon]

Excellent review. Honest and trustworthy. I have a £500 GVM, and while it's quiet and steady, on straights, the rod that steers parallax shots isn't a good enough solution. It's janky and unrepeatable. I would love this, and can afford it, but...is it worth the £3700 I'd have to pay (for the lot)? If I'm spending that much I'd be expecting outstanding build quality and reliable tracking. The tech £3700 could buy is way above this slider...but its price is its price. In your humble opinion...is it worth it? It also bugs me that they've admitted to ignoring 80% of the mobile market and have no plans to make an Android app.

[@ShawnKoh]

Thanks for your support! Its definitely a large investment and at the moment I wouldn’t recommend it to others just yet. There are alot of bugs they have yet to fix, it feels like an incomplete product. But so far I’ve gotten great shots out of it, you can see my latests videos for samples.

[@creativesymon]

@@ShawnKoh Appreciate your honesty :) Thank you.

[@dragoscondrea7307]

I am glad your unit works, however there a couple of unit out there that are not working. I bought my unit 2 months ago and they replaced my rhino motor but the unit did not work properly at all. I am still waiting for them to figure out what is wrong and send me another unit in return. Paid for the thing 2 months ago never been able to usit on at least one single shot. And I am not the only one who has a defective unit. If anyone is interested in buying one of this go to the Rhino Storytellers group on Facebook and search in the post, there are more upset people then you can realise.

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey Dragos, I had to wait over 5 months since the pre-order started to get my slider shipped to Singapore. So i understand that the wait can be very long especially since they are a small company. So far mine has worked fine with some minor glitches and I'm sure the team at Rhino are scrambling to fix them. Their reputation depends on it. But for now, as one videographer to another, I understand and sympathise your situation and hope you get what you paid for soon! All the best M8!

[@PeteJones2011]

@@ShawnKoh I waited 18 months after returning the original Rhino Arc, due to an irreconcilable incompatibility. FINALLY got the Arc II and took it to an important project waiting on it.... it was completely unusable. Everything Rhino has come up with is really great... in theory. They intentionally release an unfinished project, in the hopes that they could string us along with updates. Too may broken promises from them, I'm afraid. I'm eagerly waiting the updates, but after nearly 2 years, I'm not getting my hopes up too high.

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey Pete, Well I can't speak for Rhino, but I'm pretty happy with my product and yes there are many expected updates that they said would be released. Hopefully you found my review honest, I have no affiliation with the company so these were my own thoughts and experiences :) All the best to you!

[@beaverbreweryminsk5392]

Realy Honest review, thank you a lot!

[@ShawnKoh]

Glad I could help!

[@paulaikenphotography]

Great review, thanks for your intelligent and straightforward approach👍🏾😁

[@ShawnKoh]

Very welcome! thanks for the support!

[@MOBHouse]

Man, what an amazing review. Much love from Msia! Let's collab if you do come to KL after these unfortunate times!

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey thanks brother! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lprzytula]

Hi Shawn. Have you noticed any issues with the slider coming to a stop and then moving backwards slightly? I owned a slider from a competitor and this was a major flaw. Whenever it got to the end of a move, it would jerk slightly, thus ruining the shot. TIA.

[@ShawnKoh]

Hey! So far i have not had that issue. How ever Rhino is working on fixing alot of other bugs, for example, sometimes the tilt movement does not work. Theres still alot of bugs to fix so I can’t fully recommend it. I’ve been able to get by simple movements.

[@ron_gerson]

Fantastic points! Well done, thank you.

[@ShawnKoh]

Glad you enjoyed it, but do read my Pinned comment above, there are several issues with Rhino that they have yet to resolve.

[@UweBaumann]

great review, thanks, for my teachings (selfie-mode) it would be great to zoom in (Sony6600) remotely, do you know, if that is possible, while zooming in, do I stay in the same position of the frame (because the iPhone on top of the camera obviously is not zooming)

[@ShawnKoh]

Unfortunately I can't test this out as I do not own that camera :) But it's pretty unlikely that you can manage that many movements and still be focused on your content. hahaha

[@edwinmumbe95]

Thanks for the review, how much does it cost ?

[@ShawnKoh]

You'll have to check out the website yourself for that info buddy.

[@edwinmumbe95]

Haha . I will Shawn, thanks

[@edwinmumbe95]

Haha . I will Shawn, thanks

[@PaulPaulPaulPaulPaul]

Hello. Good video. I’m a edelkrone user. And the setting takes so many time. Is the setting with the arc faster? Do you know edelkrone? Which system is better? Thanks

[@ShawnKoh]

Thanks! GeraldUndone did a video comparing the two systems, you should check that video out :) I don't have the Edelkrone system so I can't judge them :)

[@alejandroorozco864]

great video, I always appreciate an honest review. :D

[@ShawnKoh]

Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@danielmurphy9096]

Awesome review. Subscribed.

[@ShawnKoh]

Much appreciated! Hope to bring you more great content!

[@pjtavera]

Good points on the cons for their future updates and upgrades

[@ShawnKoh]

PJ Tavera thanks! Im glad you enjoyed it!

[@shadi5885]

I use the nucleus nano follow focus system for this exact reason. At least rhino made the follow focus have the same rail as the industry standard, otherwise they’d have trapped us into only being able to use theirs. It’s nice to be able to manually adjust focus without touching the rig mid shot. It’s just not repeatable sadly :(

[@ShawnKoh]

Yes, rhino has a long way to go and alot of issues to fix

[@ROCKKHOUND]

Great video! Thank you for the honest review.

[@ShawnKoh]

Thank you! I’m glad you liked it!

[@ROCKKHOUND]

Shawn Koh one quick question here. Do you think the face tracking function is good enough to use on livestream?

[@ShawnKoh]

ROCKKHOUND short answer is No :) its not reliable and not as smart as it should be. Sometimes it follows ur head nodding movements which is totally unnecessary

[@ROCKKHOUND]

Shawn Koh man really see what you mean. If it follows the nod, i guess thats wierd. Hard to find such detailed and honest review.

[@FeedbackWrench]

Finally, an actual critical review. Subbed and anxious for your content

[@ShawnKoh]

Im glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the support

[@MrCamera]

Thanks man ! Really nice review !

[@ShawnKoh]

Awesome! Im glad you enjoyed it!

[@tvlussoart5063]

I read the product description carefully. I want to buy the product according to your explanation. I want to upload a video of me drawing on the rail and take a video.

[@ShawnKoh]

Go ahead!

[@samimqazi4270]

Wonderful review but I think key frames can be done easily .. instead of setting key frame b in the end u can set it in the middle of the slider so it doesn't focus on object B in the end ... unless it subjects r moving yes its impossible to track the focus until its front the camera itself

[@ShawnKoh]

Hi Sammi, thanks for the comment. The point of the focus is to rack from one point to another. Setting it up mid-way doesnt solve anything, infact it makes it worse.

[@eivinj]

where is this filmed?

[@ShawnKoh]

Singapore! :)

[@eivinj]

Shawn Koh where in Singapore?

[@ShawnKoh]

@@eivinj Marina Bay

[@XanderEwald]

00:34 Pretty heavy jitters, or is it me?

[@ShawnKoh]

Dacci Pucci yeah it looks like it, but might also be shaking from the timber deck I was standing on.

[@LinkFitness]

Great video! Did you know you sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger!? Nevertheless, keep making great vids.

[@ShawnKoh]

Haha thank you for the support!

[@ShawnKoh]

**IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ BEFORE BUYING* Hi Everyone, I think I need to address * a very concerning issue* with this product. I feel it is my duty as a reviewer to be honest and truthful with you guys so you can make an informed decision. At this time, I cannot recommend buying this product from Rhino. This review was made along time ago when the product had just arrived at my door. Upon further usage and research, there are many things wrong with this product, there were many bugs that should not be in a released product like this and many promises made that were not for-filled. Now my disappointment solely lies with the promises made by Rhino to their customers which were not for filled, then later complains ignore, and finally excuses from the company stating a lack in man-power and so on. The best way to know how this product is doing is by asking those who have bought them, there is a Facebook page called "Rhino Story Tellers" where you can find heaps of complaints and problems with this product. Now I need to stress how much I wanted to support this product, heck I even made this 12min video without sponsorship. But like I said, I cannot in good continence, recommend this product.

[@ShawnKoh]

​@Time Raider Films Hey there, I appreciate your comment and the questions so let me clarify it here. Firstly, this slider still works, and everything I said in my video is true to my experience, nothing has changed about that. However, in the video, I did not specifically go into features that were not released yet and were still pending in later firmware updated. These were the promises made by the company that were not yet forfilled at the time of making this video. It's been about a year now and these promises are still not forfilled, therefore it was my duty to inform people coming to this video that there are some draw backs with this product. Secondly, the reason I recommend searching for more opinions and reviews is because no one should base a large purchase order like this based on a single review or unboxing. It is your duty as a consumer/ customer to do your own research and to find out as much as you can before buying. You cannot blame a review you saw on youtube if the product isn't what you thought it would be. I'd like to end this explanation by saying that I do not have any affiliation with Rhino, and this Pinned comment was a favor to warn others. If you are not happy with my review or my follow up warnings, I suggest you do your own due diligence and research the product else where. I have nothing to gain from this warning other than to help other potential buyers. So far I'm the one stuck with the product with empty promises, I'm the one warning others, so why is that an issue to be "Curious" about?

[@ShawnKoh]

Thanks! I appreciate your understanding approach to this, I myself am also frustrated with the brand especially after I put so much effort into the video and also after so many people have watched it.

[@richardbeasley9084]

Nice review

[@ShawnKoh]

Cheers!

[@GamerSiol]

wow fellow singaporean, i support!

[@ShawnKoh]

Thanks for the support!!

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Xièxiè , brother! 💛😎

[@samgillespie]

Nearly 6 months later and still so many issues with my unit!

[@ShawnKoh]

And to make it worst, Rhino is ignoring these issues and keeping quiet, what a waste of money.

[@samgillespie]

Shawn Koh yeah... the latest company update didn’t fill me with confidence that the issues will be sorted soon...

[@agostonberko]

the first company who will combine 5-axis slider with a portable gimbal will be millionaire.

[@robertfeliciano5723]

Moza mentioned one over a year ago, but it's been vaporware: www.gudsen.com/moza-air-x

[@fatheadmediapro]

For real. I thought about that as well, and I think something like the DJI Ronin - S with the detachable head that you can then mount to a slider would be effing fantastic. The head would get power from the battery pack in the handle, just like the Ronin - S, and then would get power from the slider when you switch it over. It seems so simple. What say we draft some prototypes and make millions?

[@koolhand12]

Good video...

[@ShawnKoh]

Thank you

[@Silverpinstudios]

Your definitely from Hawaii, speakin' the pidgin

[@ShawnKoh]

Sorry to disappoint brah, i’m from Singapore 🙂

[@Silverpinstudios]

@@ShawnKoh lol... I lived in Hawaii for 4 years and just the way you speak sounds like all my brah's from back in the day. Did you spend any time there at all?

[@ShawnKoh]

@@Silverpinstudios Hahah no my friend, I've only visited Hawaii once :)

[@TymekStolarz]

Hi Shawn and thank you for the review. i am just about to pull the trigger on this system and i unfortunetly came across this extremely bad review of the Arc II. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6qXaIN9nKpggZY did you have any similar issues with the quality of the arc II when you first received it? thanks

[@ShawnKoh]

I would not recommend purchasing this system, there are alot of issues which I only found out after making this video. There were alot of promises made by Rhino that were never for-filled. Check out the FB page “Rhino Story Tellers” and you’ll see a bunch of issues and complaints.

[@TymekStolarz]

@@ShawnKoh now personally, are you unhappy because they are not implementing the features that they promised and are taking too long? or are their actual issues with the gear. I specifically just want to take smooth macro shots and time lapse. as long as everything moves smoothly then they are better then the competition like edelkrone, and im okay without all the extra features they are promising.