"She has Eurocentric features!" - Black women beauty standards, featurism, colourism + more

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[@bellevanille3536]

Skinny black women get that same treatment too. We don't have eurocentric features, our naturally slim african bodies are just conventionally attractive to many people. Doesn't make us less black.

[@annayosie]

No literally if you look at black models they all are skinny women but they aren’t American they come from Africa and other places, not all of us are meant to be big,but apart of me thinks it’s just an black American thing to assume blakc women were always thick

[@bellevanille3536]

@@annayosie yeah, i too noticed that African-Americans and any other black community that look up to them tend to think that every bw is supposed to be thick.

[@commentpoliceofficer7991]

The whole thick black woman stereotype comes from Africa though. I’m Black American but I’ve always heard Africans say that African girls are so thick and curvy but I see them in person and they have no ass😂

[@afree3884]

Once I heard someone say that lupita has eurocentric features I was DONE with this conversation! People are starting to look at natural and fully black features through the prism of eurocentrism and that is so irritating.

[@summersultra]

Irritating. That's the word.

[@JojoJojo-cz9eb]

LITERALLY, I was just thinking this the other day! Like it makes no sense that you can have eurocentric features as a black person. People need to shop thinking that all black people have big features when that’s not everyone

[@EkaeteB]

No honestly, imagine looking at a whole black person and having the audacity to tell them they look white??? BFFR! 😂😭

[@culturalresponse2447]

Well Ryan destiny , who was featured in this video, for example, has a white grandmother. She’s dark skin but a mixed woman. So her features could be from her European grandmother

[@thewordsmith5440]

This is like denying colorism because light skin black people exist. Nose shape, hair texture and skin color are all things that determine if a black woman is considered beautiful and you can add light eyes as well. Having an oval face and a sharp nose.

[@Lucciii32]

@@thewordsmith5440 people always deny evolution and the way human beings NATURAL view and breed for certain characteristics, I bet most of these people believe in some fake god and go to church once a week, even tho they “sinned” all the other days prior

[@painexotic3757]

@@thewordsmith5440 also in america there are millions of mixed race people (like myself). Im mixed with black, white, and asian lol. So I've been told my nose is "white looking", my eyes are "asian looking", and my lips are "black".

[@onjelbercier]

I think Lupita Nyongo is a good example of having absolutely no features similar to a white ideal but still being beautiful because her features fit well together.

[@abbysands9510]

But Lupita Nyongo has a very small nose, her nose is so small it doesn't stand out

[@aliukehinde3906]

​@@abbysands9510lupita is nilotic

[@thewordsmith5440]

No she still aligns with Eurocentric features. Yes, she is beautiful but people see her as beautiful because of her slender features her nose isn't sharp but it's very doll-like and even child-like.

[@thewordsmith5440]

Not having a big nose and big lips is similar to the white ideal. Small features are in line with the white beauty standard.

[@onjelbercier]

@thewordsmith5440 I disagree. If this were the 1950s, someone like her would not be seen as attractive if she did not at least look like Dorothy Dandrige. Yes, Lupita has a delicate face, but you will never see a white person with her face. Her features are proportionate, and that's all that matters. Her nose is not necessarily smaller than the rest of her face. Being a kibbe-verified soft classic, all of her features are moderate in proportion to each other. That's not to say that having any irregularities will make someone ugly, but Lupita is an example of having a button nose, big lips, wide cheeks, 4c hair, and dark skin while being attractive. Proportion is attractive in any ethnicity. But when others see a proportionate face, they equate it with a Eurocentric standard of beauty. The truth is that nothing is truly Eurocentric if all ethnicities can share these features. We have no reason to believe that Lupita is not a pure blooded African woman. Therefore, any features she has are granted to her by her black lineage. That would make her Afrocentric. And to say that being obviously beautiful means you first have to be Eurocentric would be the same as saying that you are not beautiful unless a white person says you are. But I think we can all agree that if most people, regardless of race, think you are attractive then you are.

[@KushQueen9]

As a south sudanese woman, i have found it so offensive when people say indigenous African women from my country have eurocentric features. Growing up, i have always had people asking me where I'm from. I later realised there are a lot of people who find women from my country attractive and some are obsessed with us, and i noticed a lot of white people who kept asking me weird questions about my ethnic background. I didn't mind other Africans asking me these questions though. However, I feel like i really need to call the BS and hypocrisy out from other Africans!! I have heard African women saying i bet white men will like you, they tend to like women who look like you! How strange considering i don't date white men 😂 i don't worship them as others do, nor do i even care for wyt people's beauty standards and most south sudanese people are like this too. We set our own beauty standards because we know we are beautiful. I've also heard other Africans referring to South Sudanese women's features as eurocentric which is daft. My people are one of the oldest people on planet earth, so miss me with that eurocentric features bs!!!

[@AfriPrincess411]

People say that about any and every conventionally attractive BW. Even straight from the Congo. There was a gorgeous West African girl with almond eyes, coily hair, dark skin, high cheekbones, round nose, full lips be accused of this. Since when are ANY of those features Euro? Its just bias/racism

[@thewordsmith5440]

You might as well deny colorism. Featurism is a problem across all black communities. It doesn't matter is someone is fully African people are still align with what Europeans call beautiful. It's a reason why Belgium's considered Tutsi to be more beautiful it was heavily based on their oval faces and thin noses. Same with Somalis. They literally called Iman the model "A white woman dipped in chocolate".

[@nalasmith4281]

@@thewordsmith5440 right

[@nalasmith4281]

The same reason yalll applaud Kelly Rowland but won’t appraise Tirana Burke.. bitch plz

[@Lucciii32]

@@thewordsmith5440 this is evolutionary science, people are animals and are attracted to certain features as they may feel that they give their offspring a better chance at survival and procreation in order to pass on their bloodline

[@raoulmbabazii]

@@thewordsmith5440 those are pastoralists features

[@XtremFaith]

Somebody had to say it. It's crazy we think dark skinned people aren't supposed to have these features because we are the original copy.

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

No we aren’t. Please stop

[@KING_SIAYER]

@@AnAdorableWombat1we all originated from Africa

[@anonymous24686]

I agree, but only to an extent. 1) "Conventional": Eurocentric features do not imply that these features aren't black, they insinuate that these features are deemed the standard in the European world. European does not mean Eurocentric. I think this is where you've got these concepts confused. Not all Europeans have slim noses, and not all Black people have wide noses. You're right regarding these two facts. However, you and some of the commenters have used the term "conventional". How could you use the word conventional and simultaneously disregard the connection between beauty standards and Europe. "Conventional" is defined as a collectively agreed standard or way of living based on society. Our society, our global society, has been European-dominated for centuries. So, to say "oh... people only say that Black people with conventional features have Eurocentric features" is ironic and contradicting. 2) Simply eradicating the fact that each community's beauty standards isn't in someway tied to Europe has a "I don't see color" vibe to it. I'd love to agree that beautiful African women in the Western world aren't praised because of European beauty standards (slim noses, loose-textured hair, long eyelashes) but that's just ignorant. 3) However, I do profoundly agree with the idea that the constant correlation between beautiful Black women and Europe is a double-edged sword. We try to attack the issue of Eurocentric beauty standards while simultaneously hurting ourselves and, like you said, putting Europe on a pedestal. I second the idea that another term besides Eurocentric should be used. Not for its definition (because Eurocentric doesn't necessarily mean all of Europe, it's just the standard of Europe which has been imposed on the rest of the world), but because a lot of people cannot comprehend the genuine meaning of this term and it, therefore, confuses the masses. Although, if another term is proposed, we can't just deny the fact that a lot of the women OUR COMMUNITY puts on a pedestal are mostly seen as desirable due to the beauty standards which Europe set for the world.

[@anonymous24686]

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[@justwonderinghowlongmyname5139]

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[@alicejoly4268]

You’re so right !!

[@blueorchid5971]

You literally said everything that needed to be said!!!!

[@bellatheb3autiful835]

Preach!!! I also find it interesting that as she speaks on this topic she is wearing a wig that most likely looks nothing like her or her ancestors god given texture. 🤔. European beauty standards have Dominated the black community, let’s be real!

[@Mschele]

I agree..why can’t Black women just be beautiful? I’ve had people ask me if I was mixed something or if I’m from E. Africa. It’s insulting as if Black women just can’t be attractive.

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

All black women aren’t beautiful! If all women are beautiful then…there is no standard of beauty. It is pitiful to just call everyone black beautiful

[@DebbieSmith-pd9fz]

Their not attractive, FACT

[@pendita66]

@DebbieSmith-pd9fz please tell your group of yt women to stop appropriating our features if you don't find them attractive. 🥱

[@mermaidcharlise4908]

​@@DebbieSmith-pd9fzthe fact that you're watching this video, proves you're obsessed!!! WE ARE ATTRACTIVE!!!! JUST ADMIT IT

[@philtoner2621]

​@@mermaidcharlise4908 Yeah I'm actually amazed you actually believe that, black beauty lmao 😅🤣😂

[@myishenhaines1706]

For me, I didn’t get the “pretty for a dark girl.” “Black barbie” talk. I was either made fun of for my color and being “ugly”, or over-sexualized. I’m almost 36, and the older I get, the more men sexualize me. I didn’t grow up around a lot of black peers. I now live in a predominantly black city/state, and the over sexualization I get from black men here is absurd. I think they are intrigued by how I look as I’m not from this state and I don’t follow clothes trends etc..(I dress very bright, bubbly, and such). But it’s just disgusting how much harassment I get from them. And I see a difference too in how they treat me. They almost treat me like a light skinned or mixed with non black, black woman.

[@AlcHeMiSt55]

LISTEN LADIES YOU ARE IN THE WRONG CITY, STATE, TOWN. YOU SHOULD NOT BE THERE IN A CITY WITH BLACKMEN THAT LIKE CERTAIN WOMEN. THEY THINK YOU WERE ONE, BUT YOU ARE NOT... GET OUT OF THERE BEFORE YOU GET TALKED TO AND YOU ARE DAMAGED FOR LIFE. DON'T TALK TO THEM, DON'T LOOK IN THEIR DIRECTION, DO NOTHING BUT FIND ANOTHER CITY, STATE THAT HAVE OTHER MEN THAT YOU CAN BE COMFORTABLE WITH. MY ADVICE BUT HURRY. RENT AND ALL THAT RECESSION STUFF IS STILL ONGOING... PROBLEM SOLVED

[@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815]

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[@thewordsmith5440]

I feel like black men like to overly sexualize dark skin women but sometimes treat light skin women like a wife. If you notice men say they would rather marry Beyonce but they brag about Serenas butt. They never say I want to marry Serena.

[@maureenpemberton5991]

Definitely, there is anti black trend. Sadly, I feel that if black communities were to set up a black beauty standard, I feel it would default to featurism /colorism/texturism, because of that belief that proximity to white is still "beautiful".

[@userp67qjsbanwi]

EXACTLY!!! People cannot just fathom the fact that a black person and especially a black woman can be gorgeous.

[@eventplanner461]

No one is saying that black women can't be gorgeous. The issue is that, black women are only considered gorgeous when they have light fair skin, or small noses. It's like trying to deny that colorism and featurism exists.

[@giftedwithin7]

Absolutely!

[@rukaahachi9843]

@@eventplanner461all races are like that though

[@rukaahachi9843]

@@eventplanner461tons of dark skin women are considered gorgeous

[@eventplanner461]

@@rukaahachi9843 Exactly, all races are like that. All races deal with colorism and as a result the effects of colorism are felt the harshest towards dark skin black women.

[@allencampbell1058]

I'm a latino guy and I do love black women, yall so beautiful and unique with different exotic features that are hated ame imitated by other race of women 💯 yall bless

[@dominiquewyatt6704]

❤

[@DanielleStarr]

No Rihanna wouldn't be fine if she were darker skin. Oh no ma'am. With so many dark skin music artist talking about colorism. She would never made it that big.

[@Candi.X]

Fr

[@alicejoly4268]

Yes let’s be honest

[@orlandoskeete3280]

I've seen a lot of beautiful black women with black features

[@mermaidcharlise4908]

Thanks for being a black guy to uplift us for once

[@orlandoskeete3280]

@@mermaidcharlise4908 💯💯💯

[@CarefreeLife7]

​@@mermaidcharlise4908Bye , He's pandering .

[@maureenpemberton5991]

Each culture has its own set of beauty standards, and trends come and go. The "Eurocentric beauty standards" divide people into "ethnic" features and "white" features, which is harmful to people's perception of self. Ideally, we should be able to appreciate features as a diversity of facial functional parts that suits your individual face and reflects your genetic Inheritance. People look the way they do, because they do! We see beautiful people in all cultures, because their features suit their face, irrespective of features. They have a symmetry or a balance, not because of "Eurocentric" features....

[@tessy28]

Love this comment, especially about your heritage!! I have a bigger nose and did a video on why I love it because it makes me looks like my parents. I think you would enjoy watching it, check it out if you like.

[@maureenpemberton5991]

@@tessy28 yes!! I will. Thank you ❤️. Exactly! You look like your ancestors. Nothing is more beautiful than that. Let 's all remember this!

[@riridagoatt]

I agree, it’s ignorant to say that a poc/bw has European features simply because they are conventionally attractive, it’s so discrediting and backhanded..

[@kenshix7902]

Just say black women. The whole POC kumbaya thing is bs

[@rhondae8222]

@@kenshix7902 Exactly! Many Black women will never learn. They always feel a need to including other ethnicities of people: Latinos, Asians, etc. Smh

[@morbid1.]

Americans have very distorted view of "europeans"... we have a lot of different shapes of facial features, most of them do not fit american ideal of "Eurocentric".

[@TxSissi]

This conversation needed to be had and you said it well. Darker-toned women with “smaller” features are always considered attractive because they are: especially to whites in America. It has been the blacks who have historically distained dark-skin and elevated the lighter-skinned child/woman to the ideal, regardless of their appearance.

[@henrymarlinwy4656]

Black women are so beautiful in many ways. I love them all ❤😊

[@HyphenatedHistoryUK]

I’ve just discovered your channel and I’ve already watched nearly everything! I really liked this video, and it’s funny cos “Eurocentric features” have come up again recently as a debate on Twitter (tho when is there not a debate on there!) it seems to be another way of saying “pretty for a Black girl” but in a faux-intellectual way. I really appreciate there being a Brit handling these topics, esp the ones you did on UK celebs and dating. You’re a gem!

[@EkaeteB]

Aw thank you so much!! I’m so glad you’ve enjoyed them and I appreciate you taking the time to go through them all! I have more videos coming, just focussing on getting my real life straight atm x

[@johnnieelizabeth9752]

Hi, I really like your channel and I agree with alot of the points you made. While I do agree that if a feature is on a black person it is inherently a "black feature" I think the thing people take issue with is that only certain black features are acknowledged as being beautiful or marketable to a broader audience. And while I agree that those women who have those features should not be forced to defend the opportunities that they are granted, I think its important to question why only they seem to be getting the opportunities in the first place. For instance, I think that Beyonce is an extremely talented and hardworking individual who very much deserves her success. But I think it would be disingenuous for us to pretend like the way she looks in no way contributes to the initial opportunities she was given. and while I dont think she should constantly have to defend her success, its okay for people to question the social, political, and historic context that allowed a beyonce to achieve what she has, but has prevented so many equally talented dark skinned women with wider features from achieving that level of success.

[@EkaeteB]

Thanks for watching! I agree with your point regarding Beyoncé, but in this video I was speaking specifically about dark skin women. And like I said, I don’t think it’s fair to ask darker skinned women who already are low in numbers with fewer opportunities to give up or question those opportunities, as I said that lies on the platforms and spaces. What you’re talking about is a different discussion. For lighter skinned women like Beyoncé and mixed race people like Zendaya, then sure, at this point in time they are oversaturated and over represented, so yes, it would be great to see them to turn down roles/opportunities or use their influence and privilege to put their darker skinned counterparts on and we’ve seen that happen a few times. And I think the discussions around this topic occur far more than the ones about diversifying the popular dark skin bw look

[@sgh94644]

It's the colorism that helped her not this weird featurism thing

[@thewordsmith5440]

@@sgh94644 Featurism, texturism and colorism are cousins. It's a reason older women from the caribbeans to the U.S. south used to pinch small black children's noses hoping it wouldn't spread or remain wide or rounded looking.

[@Karl-fg8nv]

As a bm, I've always found wider and bigger features more attractive than the opposite. Sometimes, I've felt like a unicorn for thinking so. It's sad.

[@alexisnorris9498]

Sooo…. I may not be a dark skinned woman however I just got word that my beautiful Dark skinned Bestfriend came on here and tried to express her experience on being a dark skinned woman and because she doesn’t have a wide nose someone slammed her in the comments! What sense does that make??? I don’t care how non of y’all feel just like y’all have experiences on being dark skinned so does she. Do you even realize that the colorism had been spread amongst yourselves even more once the negativity came about? Big nose or small nose black woman you’re all still beautiful! We should uplift each other no matter the features because WE ARE BLACK how long are we gonna stay divided???????

[@PreciousdaughterofChrist]

I agree !!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@clipaqua8848]

I love the point you made about east and north women with "eurocentric features" being kinda excluded for their proximity to whiteness. those features are indigenous to africa, the black identity is mostly western and I respect the meaning generated by afro- descendants in the western world. I know the intersections can become a little messy... some north african families have siblings that would classify as different races in America. also afro-arabs exist (imagine Sudan) and are usually darker than indigenous north africans lol. there is a saying in Ethiopia where if a girl is lighter, she can get away with unattractive features/ nobody notices her unattractive features, while a darker girl needs to really have beautiful features to be noticeable. its crazy how you (in the uk?) and them detect the same phenomena. my favourite thing in the world is seeing foreign people favour the plain janes of a post colonial phenotype. the people around them are always so confused, but those foreigners can really appreciate the indigenous, undeniably x phenotype. it really makes me believe in the saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder..."

[@ha3945]

Your last paragraph is so true. Everytime I see an unambiguous bw being celebrated for her beauty/features by outsiders, I'm pleasantly surprised but then I remind myself that if the most unattractive of light skinned people is praised over an attractive unambiguous bw, then that means it's not the features, but the perceived symbolism they carry. Does this make sense lol

[@anndeecosita3586]

North Africans are legally white in the USA as are Middle Easterners.

[@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815]

Sudan dont have traditional arabic features. Big and curve nose. Somali have more features Arabic.

[@KushQueen9]

​@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815 somali features aren't arab lol there are sooo many south sudanese women who have the same features with much darker skin.

[@BantuNiLo]

You're confusing African and black. North Africans and some East African countries are mixed with non-black people.

[@peteferguson518]

North Africans really aren't black at all, and that's very debatable that some East African groups are given the high degree of Eurasian admixture in parts of East Africa. So while it's true that every feature that's on a black person is a black feature, it's really dependent on who you consider to be black. Taking Rihanna as an example, it's a bit foolish to say green eyes and yellow skin are black features just because some people claim that she's a black woman. Truth is, Rihanna is a multiracial woman with black, white and hybrid features. There really is such a thing as a typical West African phenotype, that doesn't mean that all West Africans have exactly the same set of features or that only West Africans have them but there's clearly an average West African look and not many individual outliers who don't owe some unusual features to external admixture or artificial transformation. And arguing that black people can look like anything really serves to justify the erasure of the typical and unambiguous West African phenotype in favor of mixed women or even Caucasian and Asian "blackfishers" or more accurately "mixedfishers" as the standard for "black beauty".

[@bellatheb3autiful835]

👏🏽

[@rukaahachi9843]

There is no average west African look we look different

[@maureenpemberton5991]

I absolutely love this. Very thoughtful and considered comments. I just wanted to add 1. Someone on KZbin made such an excellent comment on the fact that "Eurocentric features" are shared by so many populations outside of Europe, not considerdc" white or European, such as people from the Middle East, the Indian subcontinent, mixed/indigenous peoples of Latin America

[@cc6546]

Thank you. Social media really irritates me with their "eurocentric features" crap

[@giftedwithin7]

Right.

[@mariamart_0]

Exactly, not everything is about Europeans or White people. The world doesn’t revolve Europeans like what the hell??? I cannot believe White women think every non-White women such as Black women, Asian women, and Indigenous women are jealous, insecure, and are obsessed with them like no. We are not obsessed with you y’all anyways. 😭😭🙄

[@maureenpemberton5991]

Also, people of North Africa have mixed with different ethniticies over the centuries, but they are African, since many such as the Amazigh, have always lived in Africa. The reason being, Narrower features are an adaptation to cooler or mountainous Regions, outside of the hotter savannahs or desert conditions in parts of Africa. Narrow features evolved to warm cooler air through the nose, and to minimise frostbite on lips, once they were "smaller" or "thinner". Yes, yes, yes! African features are so varied : if you look at people from Western Africa, you can see such a diversity of nose shapes, fullness of lips, face shoes etc, just as you see diversity in Europeans. It is such a lazy way to stereotype people. If Eurocentric features were considered instant beauty, then every single European person would be 10 or 10 +. Exactly, many Europeans do not have small noses, and many have fuller lips. Another point is Far Eastern Asian have been considered beautiful by many cultures, and they do not have "Eurocentric" features. You can see the popularity of "cats eyes" make up, to create an almond shape, which is not a "Eurocentric" feature. Finally, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so most people are " normal /average", which is a good thing! Everyone had unique attractiveness, otherwise the human race would have died out, eons ago!

[@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815]

I believe there are 3 bases for beauty 1 health to appear healthy and not have illnesses 2 how common that characteristic is, among the people you live with, it gives you a feeling of visual comfort. 3 status that appearance represents in society

[@KushQueen9]

White North Africans are not native to the continent so cut the BS right now. Nice try!

[@thewordsmith5440]

What you're trying to avoid is featurism. Just like colorism anything that is closer to white is deemed as beautiful. So yes pointing out people's aversion to presenting black women with round noses and full lips is a form of featurism. Just because some black women are naturally light skin doesn't mean we can't point out that light skin women are seen as the standard of black female beauty.

[@bellatheb3autiful835]

Thank you!

[@rukaahachi9843]

What country are you in because dark skin women are considered beautiful where I am from

[@rukaahachi9843]

Also all races prefer sharp features

[@anndeecosita3586]

I hear black women describing other black women as “white women dipped in chocolate” and think that is so insulting. I also appreciate that you don’t pretend that all lighter skin people are universally considered attractive. I have heard people say Rhianna is ugly because of her huge forehead. I think the fact that she acts unbothered by the criticism makes a lot of people like her more. Not everyone bases who they find attractive on the same factors. Despite light skin and a looser hair texture I think Tracey Ellis Ross is highly unattractive. I know a lot of people who feel the same way. TER is funny though and you mentioned how it’s different in comedy. On the other hand I think her mother Diana Ross who is darker skin is drop dead gorgeous. Now Gabrielle Union is darker skin and eyes and she’s prettier than Rhianna to me.

[@thewordsmith5440]

I wouldn't go around saying that but denying featurism is like saying colorism isn't real. Most of the light skin women we find attractive have thinner noses. And the ones we debate about have rounder features like Ella Mai.

[@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815]

I love rihanna beauty. The small face and forehead is the best and I love her lips shape

[@rukaahachi9843]

No fr colorism is not as bad as people think as DSBW they just have a victucomplex

[@AnimalLover2400]

I don't plan on watching the video, but all the women in the thumbnail on the left are actually mixed race. Even Duckie Thot, who has a fully Arab grandparent so at least 25% Arab like her sister's DNA Test results showed. Justine Skye is mixed, fully Indian grandparent, mixed race mother and Destiny Ryan, fully white late grandmother, mixed race mother. Naomi Campbell, fully Chinese grandparent, mixed race parent.

[@Mrsmerlinsantana]

@@nikkiloveslife4841right I know someone who is damn near 100% African yet they are waaay lighter then me

[@lesedi3040]

No.

[@carti_kun191]

@@Mrsmerlinsantanaskin tone is not an indicator of mixed race. Mixed people come in many different shades especially those that are not mixed with white. Justine skye is not even 60% black. Naomi Campbells mother is half Chinese and her father is multigenerational mixed w/ black, Chinese, and white. Ryan destiny’s mother is biracial and her dad has racial admixtures so she’s at minimum 30% white.

[@carti_kun191]

@@nikkiloveslife4841you’re more than likely 80%+ black w/ a racial admixture like most African Americans. That is not the same as having a fully non-black grandparent paired with other racial admixtures lol. You have 3 & a half black grandparents. Majority of the women on the left have a fully non-black grandparent PAIRED with racial admixtures from other grandparents. Not all mixed people are lighter skinned.

[@carti_kun191]

@@nikkiloveslife4841 you literally said “then I must be mixed race”…

[@sonderexpeditions]

Well Justine and Ryan are mixed as Rihanna and Nicki Minaj but both are blackish. Mixed people can also be dark skinned. Justine did a dna test and her numbers of admixture were pretty high.

[@marlonelias]

She’s beautiful!.!.

[@ashadanielle5667]

Omg…. I get told this so much! It happen just yesterday in my class, (majority Caucasian) they were saying that I have European features & I’m always told that I look like a black Barbie. Glad I found this page.

[@thebigview7551]

European features do not exist because this type or features are all around the world

[@sageex3931]

Exactly

[@Mrsmerlinsantana]

@ao5749me too

[@Exoticbarbie.]

And those people probably have european dna in their blood. Some genes cause us to manifest certain phenotype. I learned in biology. What people really mean is the person has a features that naturally occur among europeans

[@manifest652]

Completely agree with all the points that you have raised. I think you have put your perspective across in the most respectful, kind and eloquent way (making sure not to inadvertently offend - it shows your care as a person) even though it is a difficult subject matter. I am a ‘black’ person with less melanin, a small ‘button’ nose but full lips and closer to 4c hair. For this I never grew up being appreciated like many assume (I was in a predominantly ‘white’ area - in London) often ridiculed for the size of my lips (some members of our community (boys) would take part in that ridicule but it was mainly ‘white’ people who would highlight their size and how wide my mouth was when I laughed as well as making fun of my general appearance; likening me to unappealing, odd or scary looking film characters, famous men and masculine figures - even though I am and have always been a woman) no one would speak about my hair or say anything about it directly (that I can recall) but I started to observe for myself that many bi-racial women I knew that had a similar tone of skin to me but a different hair texture (looser and longer) from my perspective would receive a different treatment and appreciation even if (from a critical standpoint) they were objectively ‘less attractive’. So from my experience as someone with less melanin but a more kinky hair texture, deep brown eyes and full lips - I think texturism as well as partial featurism was definitely a factor in my appearance not being appreciated as I grew up and into my later years. It is only now I am young women (in my early 20’s) that more people seem to appreciate my appearance but often it tends to only be vocalised when my hair is conditioned in a certain way and looks more defined; when my hair is in its most natural form and the pattern is less prominent I think others struggle to see the same beauty in me that is still there. Because of how western standards of beauty have been enforced on us I think Texturism has been a barrier to other people recognising my beauty as easily. As, if I had looser hair and possibly smaller lips I think it would be easier seen and appreciated. In a similar way I think that women within our community who have more melanin; for them I think it is a deeper, richer skin tone that has been a barrier to other people recognising the beauty that is there. In both instances because of the indoctrination people have to fight through each ‘barrier’ to see the beauty that is present. I agree with you that a lighter skinned person has more leeway to be less attractive and a richer toned person seemingly has to be flawless for their beauty to be appreciated (I too have made this point many times). I also think that strategic western advertising of ‘average’ ‘white’ women (for the most part) being portrayed as stunning and beautiful and only showing the most stunning deeper toned ‘black’ women has deliberately set our bar for appreciation of dark skinned beauty too high and our appreciation of light or ‘white’ skinned beauty too low. I have often wondered if I had darker skin if I would be appreciated at all for how I look; if my features could carry dark skin and still be deemed beautiful (it is a sad and sobering thought - one I have had multiple times). I agree that our community is diverse in skin tone, features and hair textures and all should be appreciated - especially in relation to how dark skinned women of our community are represented in terms of the spectrum of features as well as hair textures - all should be shown on a range and frequency that highlights the true diversity of our community. We are beautiful. Our ‘black’ is beautiful. In all its iterations, spectrums, versions, varieties and variations. Your video is BRILLIANT. Thank you for sharing! It is a topic I have tried to bring up multiple times (possibly on account of my skin tone people have been less receptive to hear it). You’ve provided us important content - extremely grateful you uploaded this. All the best. You’re doing great things; adding to the conversation. Keep doing you 🥰🌺.

[@EkaeteB]

This is such a sweet comment, thank you so much and I’m glad you enjoyed the video. And thank you so much for sharing your story too, I agree with you 💕

[@manifest652]

@@EkaeteB Thank you; honestly much appreciated☺️🙏🏾. All your points were so well executed I really did enjoy it thanks again for making it. Genuinely, thank you so much, I was apprehensive to share so it means a lot that you appreciated it and that you took the time to read it🥰 (it was long😳🙄so I know it took dedication)😂🥰. Also (superficial side note) You’re beautiful. You have a really pretty face. I love how you’ve styled yourself; Iove your top - the style; it looks so good on you! You also have a stellar energy (my mum agree’s lol😂🥰🌺); it’s feminine and sweet🥰🌺. Even the way you put across your points on such a difficult subject matter so powerfully whilst still remaining respectful, gentle and captivating (adds to your attractiveness) - i’m taking notes😳lol - not even joking😂; again, I didn’t intend to write such a long comment smh 😅🤦🏾‍♀️ but keep doing you🌺. Take care sis & thanks again.💕 (No pressure but if you’re in London maybe we could collab on something in future - I have some projects I am working on for the development of our community rooted in the points you have made in your video - let me know if this concept is something you’d be interested in) Stay lovely, all the best💕.

[@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815]

A miss you extraordinary beauty withe woman like super models in 90s. Actually the standard is Kendall

[@danielapolo7346]

This!!! Thank you for adressing that

[@radcliffemurphy5273]

Eurocentric features is bs a lot of East African have smaller feature South Sudan women are very dark with small features

[@giftedwithin7]

Exactly!

[@KushQueen9]

Yes and although the horn has a lot of admixture, their small facial features are from their Nilotic ancestry, elongated faces, slender noses high cheekbones.

[@Ss-mr5pj]

India has black features she is beautiful

[@yusukeGum]

I am glad that you're talking about it what concerns Feturism about black women because all black women have different ethnic Taino type because I feel like they want to use this ideology because they are aware that they are some black women that have similar features to non black women so would use these ideology to put black women in the eurocentric standard of beauty so this is what I analyze Duckie Thot's I remember she was compared as Kylie Jenner so this is what they're trying to do they looking for black women to compare them to pair them to Western women

[@sgh94644]

South Indian women have a lot of these features and we're usually 100% south Indian lol

[@pendita66]

Yt people are just irritating tbh.

[@ladyfitness67]

Hi. Yes please I would love to know about quitting your 9-5, because I have did, 2 weeks ago

[@EkaeteB]

Okay girl I’ve got you!

[@kirstynwan70]

Sis I need the 9-5 vid pls I’m about to leave mine on Monday 😖

[@EkaeteB]

Woo congrats girl and for sure, I’ll post it this week x

[@TricksterLawlet]

I have a small nose but I don’t think exactly means European

[@ahmedsalah5364]

not every black person has dark skin but one thing they all have is wide flat noses even the half white half black have wide noses this is one physical trait that blacks have universally

[@giftedwithin7]

Right.

[@investirenafriquedepuisloccide]

Black women with afro features are beyong gorgeous and uniques😍

[@sgh94644]

Yeah they do this to other faces too and I'm like there is no part of me that's European. Also many parts of Africa have these features

[@Heiyoooo]

OMD YOU ARE THE SMARTEST YOU ARE SO CORRECT

[@ABC-cf9qc]

I agree to an extent. I think sometimes people say soemone has Eurocentric fetures when they clearly dont and cant just accept the oerson is buetiful. but i think you' ve confused some points simply put the European buety standard exists which is based on typical european features. we've all globally been conditioned to measure beuty by this standard. This doesnt mean that other ethnicities dont also poses some of these features. Example afro hair does not fit in the European buety standard, straight wavey or loose texture hair does. However other ethnicities also poses that feature. Just like slim noses are also commonly found in certain parts of aftrica and they too meet the European buety standard and that's why these women are deemed to meet that standard, even tho they may poses other features that dont meet the standard (dark skin, afro hair etc) The more features you have that fit into that European buety standard the more buetyiful u will be seen to be. Most west African women have the least amout of these fetures and are not usually considered buetiful. Yes there are many different features in Africa but typical west african features are not usually seen as attractive.

[@Sinadarling]

West African features ARE beautiful.

[@rukaahachi9843]

West Africans also have diverse features I have similar features to Anok Yai

[@ABC-cf9qc]

@@Sinadarling yes 100% agree they are buetiful. However many typical west African features don't fit the Eurocentric beauty standard

[@Sinadarling]

@@ABC-cf9qc why should we care about and center Eurocentric beauty standards? Eurocentric beauty standards do not always meet the standards for what black people consider to be beautiful either. Only people who center whiteness and have been brainwashed follow their beauty standards.

[@ABC-cf9qc]

@@rukaahachi9843 yes but there are typical features that all ethnicities have. That's not to say there isn't diversity within the group , if someone was described as having black skin, afro texture hair a wide nose and thick lips you would be able to guess their ethnic origins, yes not everyone within that ethnic group have these features but they are most common in west African people more than other races.

[@yusukeGum]

When we talked about the standard of eurocentric of beauty but not all white people have straight nose and thin lips because that is the modeling industry the fashion industry in the beauty industry they are comparing them like they all have similar traits and it's not true not all white people have similar traits yes there are white people that have big noses and huge lips black people's Taino looks are not a monolith including humanity in generals do not have a monolithic looks so everyone has different kind of standard of beauty but the beauty industry does not acknowledge that beauty comes in different ways in different shapes and sizes 0:06

[@rwconz_live2267]

You’re talking about Eurocentric features when you’re literally wearing Weave/Wig on your head instead of your natural hair. 💀

[@rukaahachi9843]

It’s almost like black women can have straight hair

[@user-mi1uq4kx1t]

@@rukaahachi9843baby that’s not her hair lol and yes straight/wavy hair exists mostly in Somalia, Sudan and Eritrea.

[@rukaahachi9843]

@@user-mi1uq4kx1t I know but you do know that some west Africans have straight hair right??

[@user-mi1uq4kx1t]

@@rukaahachi9843 Fulani’s?? i’ve seen them brag about having different features closer to the East. bone Straight hair isn’t common in West Africa. i don’t why it controversial to some people.

[@rukaahachi9843]

@@user-mi1uq4kx1t they don’t brag dude it’s not common but it happens that’s to show how diverse black people are

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

It’s gotten to the point where people are saying if you are a skinny black woman that’s Eurocentric 😂

[@ccooggii]

A thing people are missing with this rhetoric is Africa has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world combined, meaning that africans and direct descendants of africans will come in all sorts of shapes and sizes and this includes 'features'... So yes maybe some features are more common in europe, cause europeans dont have as diverse of a gene pool , but they doesnt make them 'eurocentric'. If an african has it, its an african feature, my people are the blueprint . Also attractiveness was not made by europeans, its something that has evolved, on a global scale anok yai is attractive not cause she looks like a black european, but cause she is attractive, there is symettry and proportions to her face(signal of good genes) and clearness to her skin ,that make the opposite sex wanna mate with her, its just that plain and simple...

[@dhurbaacharya5261]

welcome to black women peaceful for love .

[@greenguy369]

I know this videi is a year old... But based on the video itself I don't think this creater actually understands what "Eurocentric Beauty Standards/Features" means. Whatever my personal opinions...the fundamental argument of the video is faulty as a result of the core misunderstanding of the terminology and social constructs/issues being discussed.

[@blueorchid5971]

Agreed

[@MarkLandrebe-ef5yd]

Seems that most think European features are more beautiful, look at who is usually Miss America.

[@pendita66]

obviously America is white dominant.

[@digitaljosh_]

We cant change what people find attractive

[@maureenpemberton5991]

Typo :Laurie's Wandering Mind. (sorry 🙏☺️😊)

[@TheAnitdote]

It's like comparing Lupita to a younger Leslie Jones. Clearly people would find Lupita more attractive.

[@aussiedanny28au15]

Mate, i think they're just extremely jealous of ya and they're making tons of copes and quiet dubious and flimsy arguments

[@projectgenes1s]

Yeah but it doesn't matter if society is representing different features of dark skinned women in media. Ultimately, what does society or men find attractive and who gets the opportunities? It is the small nose women. So reflecting diversity is a pointless ambition.

[@wendywatkins7366]

What worsens the situation is when we resort to wearing weaves or wigs or straightening our hair ( nothing wrong with protective styles) let’s embrace our natural hair more …. No wonder ppl use the term black Barbie smh

[@EkaeteB]

“No wonder people use the term black Barbie smh” - defending the types of people that make racially charged statements such as “black Barbie”, isn’t the flex you seem to think it is Wendy. Do better 🙏🏾

[@wendywatkins7366]

@@EkaeteB I think you have misunderstood my comment …Ppl are using the term black Barbie not only for facial features but also having long silky type 1 hair (majority of BW have type 4 hair). We are not helping ourselves by always trying to fit in non black beauty standards.

[@Dashomin]

Most asians are not mixed 99 percent of asians are not mix yet some of them are very beautiful even if they don’t have “Eurocentric features” it is sad our reality is full of “who looks the least black” “which hair is most like a white person” and compliments like “your hair is almost like a white person’s” like that shouldn’t be considered a “compliment “

[@Booyared1]

You are beautiful

[@theoriginalAlaya]

I enjoyed the video and agree for the most part. I just think we should get rid of the term eurocentric and just explain it as keener or slimmer features are pedalstilized or at least find a better term. Tho I disagree when ppl put Ryan Destiny in the "eurocentric" features space. She is gorgeous and like you said because of that ppl try to find a way to explain it by relying on something outside of "blackness" by using terms like black barbie or will say the person is mixed. The thing is Ryan also has a wide flat nose, but people keep describing her like she has the slimmest nose. Her nose is just smaller. India also looks like an obvious black girl. When you refer to North Africans who are you talking about because most are not even black? East Africans most can tell are Africans people rather argue on the horners. Such as Somalia, Eritrea, and others. Some would argue those people are not fully black including some of they themsleves. And they would argue that a result for most of their features. I remember an Ethiopian girl who did a DNA test because ppl called her mixed looking, when her results came she had major Italian ancestry and her parents said it's a history ppl don't like speaking of

[@jesussavesokay547]

BFR she has a white grandmother black women need to be FKING FOR REAL.

[@theoriginalAlaya]

@@jesussavesokay547Sorry I don't understand what is your point?

[@clipaqua8848]

no Italian invasion is so recent that people would know it in their family trees. like maybe they dont know their dads side or something. it is very rare and cannot be applied to the overwhelming majority of people. habesha people are from the highlands/ mountainous regions and have slim noses because they evolved thin noses for warm air filtration. im not an expert, but this is what I know. mama Africa has a plethora of phenotypes. some South African groups have monolids and light skin, but they aren't mixed with Chinese. other countries were colonized for much longer, and may have trace amounts of colonial DNA in the population, but it does not apply to the majority.

[@jay2neak]

@@clipaqua8848 kikuyu people in kenya are from the highlands and historically lived in mount kenya. But most of us have afro features?

[@sgh94644]

And European features have small lips and smaller eyes but that generally considered attractive so...

[@sageex3931]

Ok

[@anndeecosita3586]

Not to everyone. I heard white people made fun of for having no lips or thin lips. Hence why these lip plump products have become popular.

[@PocahontasS243]

@@anndeecosita3586that’s because big/full lips are on trend, same with big eyes

[@beautyburden]

Just another gaslighting technique to discredit black beauty!

[@OrangeMilkBlossom]

Thank youuuuu! I came to this conclusion as well. It's so annoying. So she can only be beautiful because she apparently looks yt.

[@philtoner2621]

Why are you wearing a European wig, that's not your hair so it is your fault ffs 🙄

[@mermaidcharlise4908]

Leave her alone!!!!

[@freshtruth6508]

Most black women dnt wan to embrace their natural-look. Like their bold head, or non bleached skin. Its beautiful. Stop wearing wigs/extensions/someone else's hair frm india then mayb most of these men will start taking you seriously... I love belly fat, bold headed, african accented, women with personality.

[@mirellalastar]

It's like nobody asked for your personal preferences.

[@African.Diaspora.InLondonUK]

@@mirellalastar I dont think he asked 4 your opinion. He was speaking facts

[@African.Diaspora.InLondonUK]

@freshtruth6508. I agree with u.

[@kenshix7902]

You lost me at the bald head and belly fat part

[@unrulykash3830]

Facts

[@dantekole8360]

OMG you have a sexy accent and you got the looks to go with it ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@StopTheLiess]

Harriet Tubman features = black features to black people.

[@OliverNorth9729]

You are a maaan!

[@DebbieSmith-pd9fz]

All blacks have massive foreheads, it's like the afro starts on top of the head, then they draw or paint the rest in 😅

[@faithkerubo8357]

At this point....you are projecting...the only group of black people with a massive forehead is cushites(the stereotypical east african look...which doesn't make sense coz there are 4 east african looks)...the others...not really

[@DebbieSmith-pd9fz]

@@faithkerubo8357 Whatever, it looks weird 😖

[@faithkerubo8357]

@@DebbieSmith-pd9fz Well,I think people with a very small forehead or a huge distance between their eyes look weird and yet there are many western celebrities who look like that and still look good

[@DebbieSmith-pd9fz]

@@faithkerubo8357 It's not only the forehead It's the wigs, weaves, lace fronts, extensions etc all to hide the afro, they wear wigs that is nothing like the texture of their own and it looks ridiculous on a black gives of a vibe of self hate and laziness not wanting to deal with the afro also I can't put this any other way but be honest, their heads stink🤮. Why can't they just wear what God put on their heads 🙄

[@rukaahachi9843]

@@DebbieSmith-pd9fz Yt women wear wigs and weaves too. Also black women can have straight hair. And lastly, you go around sniffing blk women’s hair?

[@jasondennis3475]

Hey, glad to see you are back making videos. Again another well rounded and interesting view being put forward. I myself have gone down this colourism, black relationships, social media wormhole and it's good to find someone with such well balanced arguments & passionate points of view. I guess I should also say congrats on moving on from your 9-5 and hope you can continue growing your presence. I am working on a project which looks to highlight topics in Black British culture similar to the themes you find is shows such as Atlanta & Insecure but adjusted to fit the UK experience. Wondered if you wouldn't mind collaborating or if I could pick your brain on certain topics? Can I contact you on Insta??

[@EkaeteB]

Thank you sm for watching leaving such a nice comment! And for sure, that sounds interesting - hmu on IG and we can chat more there