She Killed Him Pt 2 Star Trek Lower Decks

Never transport with flowers

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

I like that, despite being a full-on near-emotionless Vulcan, T'Lynn is actually still kind of a goof and subtly impulsive

[@Mark73]

For a Vulcan she has a really sarcastic sense of humor that I find appealing.

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

Spock: Captain, not in front of the Klingons.

[@senister14]

I just hope they don't make her a copy of Tendi. Let her have her own arc.

[@Brasswatchman]

​@@senister14 Nah, don't worry. She's Vulcan as a motherf***er.

[@tenjenk]

that "perhaps i can still split them" sentence has a subtle panic to it.

[@tssteelx]

This is why you keep transporter records for atleast 24 hours.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

But that takes up valuable space in the computer’s memory! That space could be being used for something _useful_ instead, like jazz recordings!

[@Brasswatchman]

I also don't know if they actually can archive the records. It'd make the Heisenberg compensators explode or something.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@Brasswatchman they actually talk about the “trace pattern” in TNG. It’s used to give Picard back his corporeal form in “Lonely Among Us”, and it’s used to de-age Pulaski in “Unnatural Selection”.

[@nathanielhill8156]

They showed in DS9 that the buffers were massive, compared to the rest of the station. TNG was able to use the buffer echo and the medical scans. They were also able to get the quantum brain pattern from Pulaski's aged body.

[@MikMoen]

The bird Captain hybrid was actually a pretty cool looking character though.

[@akulsinator7680]

smash

[@Ragnarra]

Smash.

[@auricstorm]

And evil?

[@joethehero2]

Smash.

[@redrasegarden]

Really liked there feathers

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

1:30 I don't know why, but I love the fact that she maintains direct eye contact the entire time she throws the proverbial switch

[@creepyasgramdpa9916]

Gotta have both eyes open to survive.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@creepyasgramdpa9916 Naw, no immediate threat to her survival there. That was her going "You get to look me in the eye while I erase you from existence. I ain't even going to blink."

[@iloveplayingpr]

She merely wants to witness her accomplishments :D

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@iloveplayingpr lol!

[@Brasswatchman]

​@@hfar_in_the_sky Except I don't think she actually meant to Meatball everyone. I get the sense that was an honest mistake on her part.

[@jonathanaarhus224]

The fact that they made Tuvix into a verb is both hilarious and depressing.

[@seekingabsolution1907]

It can mean two things 1: the impromptu fusion of two humanoid life forms with a flower 2: the impromptu execution of a member of the crew to bring back two dead crewmembers.

[@mattstorm360]

In memorial of Tuvix, we named a teleporter error after them.

[@cauhscrymdorn2132]

@@mattstorm360 I dont think he will appreciates the term "Tuvixy Meatball"

[@skeleton8948]

Imagine walking up to a replicator that can create any food or drink you desire, and saying: "Water. Room Temperature." T'Lyn is such a chad.

[@JRGomez81]

T'lynn discovered an anomalous signal that lead to the breaking of the Pakled and Klingon Alliance, while also created a regenerative shield matrix that enhanced her ship's shields to 120%. For this she was removed from Vulcan High Command and sent to the Cerritos, where she accidentally fused most of the senior staff into an amorphous blob of limbs and teeth while trying to prevent a mutiny. Where upon she was promoted to Provisional Lieutenant Junior Grade...

[@AMPMASTER10]

Honestly, this speaks more of Vulcan's stuck-up nature.

[@CoralCopperHead]

"Oh come on, even Sarek has Bendii Syndrome and he was Vulcan as a motherf*ker!" "...I suppose, by the transit of property, I too, am Vulcan as a motherf*ker." "F*K YEAH, LOGIC, B*TCH!

[@Foxmagik]

Her career has certainly been an... illustrious one.

[@Brasswatchman]

@@Foxmagik And she's only getting started!

[@theguyinthecorner605]

@@AMPMASTER10 Personally, I think it says WAY more of Starfleet nature. There's always been the jokes about Starfleet engineers being the scariest problem-solvers to exist in the galaxy (followed closely by Starfleet scientists, followed after that by Starfleet captains), but T'lynn is subject to basically ONE weirdo Starfleet science adventure, comes up with a Starfleet-ass solution, and immediately gets promoted despite being an officer on loan from Vulcan.

[@SnowWolfAlpha]

T'Lyn fits in perfectly as we knew she would!

[@dragonrider1736]

Every star trek needs a spock

[@Electrolux219]

0:04 Captain Doctor Frigleemen has no right to look that good but I am here for it

[@dragonrider1736]

Can we all just take a moment that we're glad tuvix didn't do this at the voyager crew in the Delta quadrant?

[@juanbisonosuero3650]

Agree

[@harvey2906]

He was better than these abominations. He was a good officer and cook. The writers made Janeway a villain in this episode. Not cool at all. 🖖

[@dragonrider1736]

@@harvey2906 then eviscerate these abomination! (Grabs my bolter.)

[@Mark73]

It happened because of the hybrids knowing what happened to Tuvix.

[@101Mant]

​@@harvey2906how does this episode make her a villain, everything happened in the original episode. All they do in this one is state what happened.

[@myriadmediamusings]

I’m thinking that part of T’Lyn’s character arc will be her growing closer to the Cerritos crew, and perhaps when she is given the opportunity to go back to Vulcan, she decides she will stay and fully become Starfleet.

[@fabianlaibin6956]

Well, it is star trek after all

[@christopherkidwell9817]

I'd like to see her become "Spock's brother Mark 2" where she counsels that they do not have to reject emotions, they have to control them.

[@spritemon98]

I hope she becomes less stoic

[@fabianlaibin6956]

@@spritemon98 I hope she becomes more stoic, but with a poorly concealed soft side

[@ofmanynicknames]

This aged perfectly

[@filippofittipaldi8050]

T'Ana making cat noises when surprised always makes me chuckle. 😊

[@kkobayashi1]

"Mee-oww! I mean, get the captain to a bio-bed, stet!"

[@filippofittipaldi8050]

​@kkobayashi1 Yep, that scene was laugh out loud funny.😅

[@writershelbypicken9783]

I hate how hot the captain therapist fusion it!

[@jhart6764]

How do you deal with the moral ramifications of the tuvix problem? Make the situation so bad that the fused lose sentience and unfusing them is the more humane option. Also, T'lynn's eyebrow raise makes me think she did not expect a mass fusing when she did it. So I can't fault her for intentionally making such a mess.

[@demiserofd]

It's really not an ethical dilemma at all. It's roughly akin to someone who is on powerful drugs, or who has experienced brain damage; they are in an altered mental state, where they might even be happy, but they are also incapable of rationally judging their own fate. That's especially evident in this episode, where being tuvixed clearly made them mentally unstable. In that circumstance, when an individual is mentally compromised, it's the prerogative of the local authority to return them to their original state, judging that it is what their original self would have chosen if mentally competent.

[@Death2all546]

@@demiserofd they’re not mentally compromised, though? They were of sound mind until they saw the log stating the solution was their own demise. Then they started behaving erratically. This is pretty much the same as Dr. Who regeneration. An incident occurred then after the regeneration/“tuvixing” a new person walks away with the memories of the previous person/people.

[@lorenzorodriguez9481]

Ngl The bird woman is hot Oh and woman Shax too

[@scottbigley5126]

Being an old school trekkie......saw many original movies in theaters, i love this show! They did and continue to do so much right with it, and giving such a funny take on the universe is what was needed! Cant wait for season 5!

[@bthsr7113]

"Star Fleet systems are easily circumvented" Truth.

[@ericwilliams1659]

They don't even have lock on their doors. Remember the TNG were they find the people frozen in a satellite and one dude just walks unto the bridge during a "Romulan encounter" No wonder the changelings easily crippled the alpha quad.

[@Brasswatchman]

Especially on the _Cerritos._

[@bthsr7113]

@@Brasswatchman If the frontline classes and the freaking flagship/face of the Federation Fleet don't, why the heck would the rear line work horse?

[@mattstorm360]

@@ericwilliams1659And before that accessed information he wasn't supposed to access. And they can't lock the computer because they trust everyone on the ship...

[@ryanhau1073]

It's an interesting way to side step the whole Tuvix Moral Question. Like the Hybrid Crew was doing a Violent Takeover, so it was an Emergency Situation. Also the Cronenbergian Blob probably desires the sweet release of death.

[@JeffLionheart]

The thing about the Tuvix episode is that in all other episodes where this happens some deus-ex-machina comes along to keep the crew from having to hire the guest star. Data's daughter dies slash ascends in the episode she's introduced. All the other no-win situations that the Captains had come along up to this point, well, the writing staff said they were allowed to cheat at the Kobayashi Maru. Voyager's writing room dared to think 'Well, what happens if we *don't* let the Captain cheat? What happens if Tuvix wants to live and there's no magical reason or third option that arrives to get Janeway off the hook?' And while that's something that's never been done before and thus a new and interesting story - it's a story that ends either with Janeway murdering Tuvix or passively allowing Tuvok and Neelix's existences to end through inaction. When the story is about how there is no third option, the Captain ends up blamed for not finding that third option. RIP Tuvix - while you were technically murdered by Janeway, the responsibility falls on the writer's room intentionally pushing Janeway farther than any Captain of any Star Trek vessel had ever been asked to go before. I can't blame her and I would vote to acquit at her court-martial - making horrifying decisions about who lives and who dies and attempting to protect the ship is what the Captain is supposed to do. She was just put in a situation that not even Sisko, 'the man who can live with it', was asked to go into, and she survived it and saved Tuvok and Neelix. Tuvix should be remembered like Ensign Sito Jaxa - a sad casualty of Starfleet's risky missions whose death forms the emotional core of the episode they star in. Don't try to save them from outside the universe, you'd lose what made those episodes special.

[@EmonWBKstudios]

Ok, um just gonna say it, I'm down bad for captain-doctor Frigglyman.

[@Igarappappa]

No shame.

[@longQ1551]

Kinda wanted to see tendi and tyln fuse, positivity with a Vulcan what could go wrong😂

[@dragonrider1736]

Aw man now I'm curiously want to know.

[@vexxama]

Damn, of all the possible combos, that the one I want to see most now

[@secretsecret3528]

@vexamma 2 I want to see are Boimler and Rutherford Tuvixed and what'd happen if Boimler had been Tuvixed with his clone, the sheer amount of neurosis he'd have 😁😁😁

[@dan_ryuga]

What would their name be?

[@dragonrider1736]

@@dan_ryuga tyldi or ten'ln

[@firestuka8850]

"Starfleet systems are easily circumvented." God, that's super savage.

[@daniels7907]

But so very true!

[@burningxspirits5088]

yoooo the bird lady kind of bad tho

[@Metaphysicist]

You ain't the only one that feels that way.

[@dan_ryuga]

Oh, thank god, I thought I was the only one

[@Slavesforsale1]

CA-CAW Know what I mean?

[@dan_ryuga]

When you said "kind of bad," do you mean that in a good or bad way?

[@Metaphysicist]

@@dan_ryuga in this context,it means sexy.

[@Three-Headed-Monkey]

It would be good if they actually came up with a different solution to Janeway and examined the ethical dilemma more. They sort of worked around it by having everyone accidentally merger into one non-sentient being, removing the ethical dilemma and allowing them to separate everyone into their original personalities without worrying about 'killing' a distinct life form. But it is just meant to be fun and making a joke based on Janeway's extremely controversial actions and made for a good episode. Freeman pointing out that obviously we're not in the Delta quadrant so we can just hand the problem over to the Federation's best to work it out, but the hybrids freaking out and over-reacting when they discovered Janeway's solution was absolutely hilarious.

[@LiquidWater91]

Honestly i thought since the captain was so adamant about not repeating janeways mistake, they would have used another transporter error that produced tom riker(and dupe boiler in an earlier episode) to duplicate the hybrid person, at the same time splitting them, allowing all 3 to live on.

[@penguinmaster7]

I spent quite a few evenings thinking about Frigleeman...

[@luisenriquegalicia490]

Technically t’llips is just as bad as janeway, he is taking 2 unique sentient beings and creating a new one, which is basically like murdering them since while they are in some way in the new creation they still ceased to be

[@Gothic7876]

I have used an argument when people tried to defend Tuvix. It murders Tuvok and Neelix. There was no good solution to it. But I would rather have two crew members than one. Who know how long Tuvix would of lasted before some Genetic Degradation kicked in?

[@Igarappappa]

I mean I understand them not wanting to die but they are really being a dick about it.

[@nicholasemjohnson47]

​@@Igarappappa T'illups didn't even need to do it, because since the Cerritos wasn't stranded in the Delta Quadrant, they probably had far more available options that Captain Freeman was more than willing to explore.

[@Igarappappa]

@@nicholasemjohnson47 Exactly.

[@captainnope747]

What I want to know is how the hell did they get a whole ass beluga whale to the transporter room to make Swail Swailins?

[@carlycrays2831]

The power of ambition!

[@Spaceagefox]

in star trek dolphins and octopi have been granted human rights thanks to universal translators being able to bridge the gap between theirs and humans intellects, as such star trek uplifted humans have incorporated them into their society as equals, even to the point that they can work on starfleet ships as full rank officers. thats why the ship has whales on it, and on top of that the TNG manual has a map with a whole section of the enterprise designed for whales, down to custom aquatic hallways and escape pods. so its been cannon from the start. ( just kinda impossible to show without cartoon magic )

[@captainnope747]

I know that,@@Spaceagefox, I just wanted to know how they moved them from CetOps to the transporter room, unless they had their own transporter in there. But then they would have needed to throw a human into the water with the flower to beam them out together?

[@tachyontee3877]

Vulcan women are just so good. Attractive but so deadpanned about it. Vulcan women are like, "I know you think I'm beautiful, and your appraisal of me is accurate; however, you must do more to earn coitus from me. I require a minimum of three dinner dates, two long walks on the beach, and for you to solve no less than 20 quadratic inequalities. Only then shall you obtain the coveted snu snu. Remember, you must show your work." 😅

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

At least a Vulcan knows her worth!

[@margotrosendorn6371]

Oh, totally, T'Pol was my bisexual awakening. Smart, sassy AND can suplex a bear. What's not to love?

[@Evil0tto]

Except once every seven years. Then it's "Do you have a pulse? You'll do."

[@Igarappappa]

Hey, I'd appreciate the clarity.

[@daniels7907]

1:25 - So, the Vulcans know about Starfleet's abysmal computer security. Glad somebody noticed.

[@harvey2906]

I like both of them. They work well together. And they could become friends. Lower Decks is by far the best new Star Trek series for me. ✌

[@garethspotfur1]

starfleet should have shot voyager into the sun as soon as they got home and disembarked. that ship is cursed.

[@johnwang9914]

A Voyager theme day would require one deserving asian ensign to not be promoted.

[@hermanspaerman3490]

Poor Harry Kim.

[@Brasswatchman]

Ouch.

[@ADayintheLifeoftheTw]

🤣

[@someguy1747]

0:04 First Tillups then "Doctor Captain" Freeleman, The "Furry Fandom" is gonna have a field day with this episode. 0:56 also Genderbent hybrid Shaxx is a Prophet damn silver minx.

[@IqarP15]

She is so much like Raven but without the demonic powers.

[@StevClifSylv]

I’m LOVING the dynamic between Tendi & T’lyn

[@secretsecret3528]

Could you imagine if they Tuvixed Rutherford and Boimler

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

Think they be Bord?

[@secretsecret3528]

@@xaviersaavedra7442 maybe Rutherformler 🤔😂

[@AmaroqStarwind]

They wouldn't argue over their bonsai anymore.

[@popmannn]

​@@secretsecret3528Ya both need to step up your portmanteau game. Roimlerford

[@oiman5733]

@@popmannnSamward Boitherford?

[@mechamax7919]

"I want a fish!" *FPPPPT* XD

[@joemcguire9988]

This crazy Vulcan just straight up I-have-no-mouth-and-I-must-Scream’d the crew!

[@iamnerd223]

I love how everyone else is all awkward about being unwillingly fused together. And then there’s T’Ana who’s just got a grumpy cat face.

[@Drago_Whooves]

I wonder what a Tendi & T’lyn Tuvix would come out like

[@captaintalon4485]

So when does the Tuvix moral dilemma no longer become a moral dilemma?

[@TheJabbate1]

When he started merging other crew members and needed to be stopped.

[@tokuelite5554]

When all of them combine into a..and quote “non sentient blob of meat” The entire dilemma depends of the fusion being sentien

[@kyleyuen245]

When they threaten the crew

[@tonoornottono]

@@tokuelite5554okay… but when you mix sentient people together to CREATE that non-sentient ball of meat, you’re still effectively killing them. “it would be wrong to kill somebody before we chop them up, so instead we have to… ‘turn them into a lifeless body…’ um… with magic. and then we can chop them up, no moral issues whatsoever!”

[@TheNemesis432]

When he proclaims "peaceful coexistence".

[@antcow1239]

The fusion dance would be more practical for these hijinks.

[@CCJJ160Channels]

I love that Tuvix is a verb 😆

[@caroltawil]

1:00 why do I laugh so hard at Swhale Swhalens

[@spencerkoelle184]

Anyone thing T'lyn's "water, room temperature" is like, her way of trying too hard? "Look at how stoic and logical i am. I am definitely not insecure about not being Vulcan enough, no sirree. I'm the token sane person in a ship of irrational non-vulcans."

[@KazeMunashii]

tendies too good for this world

[@SK-qo4qs]

I don't know why but I love Tendi's exuberant

[@SlideIX]

I would actually like to see what T’lynn and Tendi Tuvix would be like or even a Mariner and Boimler Tuvix! Would Boiriner be a highly efficient and kickass ensign or a worried unconfident slacker?

[@spencerkoelle184]

Mariner and Boimler fusion would be...interesting. You'd have all of Mariner's trauma and substance abuse and all of Boimler's anxiety.

[@operandwriter]

So... if Tuvix tried to beam down with another crewmate from the Voyager, would he have also fused with them?

[@mrtencza]

I want to fish pffft!!!

[@oolooo]

0:05 Kind of looks adorable , really

[@woodysmith2681]

Definitely related to Lilith Sternan (Bebe Neuwirth) from Cheers and Frasier.

[@V86falcon]

What Season and Episode is this? I think I missed an episode somehow.

[@Dino_man387]

I agree with T’Lynn star fleet systems are easy to circumvent just planted a virus into the systems and star fleet is scrambling to figure out what happened haha.

[@thegamingbendu]

0:00 0:10 people when they realize they are furries

[@be6386]

1:09 they could of many an entire series out of this, many star fleets trying to fight against these hybrids, romulonas, Vulcans , etc all trying to fight against this new nation and junk, even the brig would be either with them or against them because there fusing or something idk

[@splicetape9435]

They could also get away with obsurd ships and technology. The combination of clothing implies that non living material could be tuvixed. What would be the result of an Oberth and a Klingon bird of prey? A heavily armed science ship that self destructs when a disrupter is fired within a sector of it? Side note, I want Lower Decks to have the Pakleds try to form an alliance with the Borg, "You like ship pieces, we like ship pieces. We should be friends ." Their overall goals are not too different.

[@EightThreeEight]

3:20 OMIGOSH WAT NO WAY!!!

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

Starfleet system are easily circumvented. That is concerning, isn't it?

[@James-hs3tu]

3:02 Harry kim. Would have gotten a promotion.

[@charlesajones77]

It is strange that I thought Dr Cpt Frigleeman was kinda hot?

[@ItsDanbo]

GYATT

[@nsr-ints]

Uhh folks, I think you forgot to salute there, but sure.

[@DDarkestKnight]

2:14 *BURN*

[@BigBlack81]

I'm suddenly craving a T'Lynn/Tendi sandwich cookie with Rutherford as the creme filling. 🖖🏿💯✊🏿

[@Brasswatchman]

OT3, huh? I like the way you think. 😆

[@BigBlack81]

@Brasswatchman ✊🏿🖖🏿🤣

[@Synthonym]

Why is Dr Frigleyman SO HOT PLS STOP

[@gerardorodriguez7500]

That’s just messed up

[@TheMattastic]

Shabarnes, hello.

[@matthew1kalasky351]

Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who.

[@rorieb20]

1:04. 😒........ He's not my best work

[@Mark73]

Tendi'Lyn, anyone?

[@dragonrider1736]

Well we can always draw one

[@cnkclark]

T'lyndi.

[@Mark73]

@@cnkclark Ooh, I like that one.

[@MattisProbably]

Why is the bird hot...?

[@garethspotfur1]

who was shax merged with?

[@rakaydosdraj8405]

The ensign that Rutherford dated in S1E1. Ensign Barns.

[@garethspotfur1]

@@rakaydosdraj8405 ah, thank you.

[@OmAlexander1111]

Those Ass starships... best in the fleet.. 😂😂😂

[@DerMannDerSeineMutterwar]

I really don't like how they made the cheap way out of the plot and just made the hybrids "the baddies" who are allowed to kill. It would be far more exiting if they found an solution for the moral dilemma.

[@Brasswatchman]

Would it, though? How do you make that into compelling television? No conflict means no story.

[@noirekuroraigami2270]

is it a moral dilemma. He is alive, but he has no true self. His thoughts, his dreams, his memories; all are just amalgamation of 2 people. also because one is born does not ultimately mean one is entitled to life

[@josephsheranda]

It's a 22 minute show. They don't have time for extra.

[@user-gi4qy7lq6h]

isn't the worst show ever enough for you people??!?

[@tenjenk]

"STOP HAVING FUN GUYS" *pubescent cracked voice screeching*

[@user-gi4qy7lq6h]

no he's right :( this show is terrible @@tenjenk

[@Brasswatchman]

@@user-gi4qy7lq6h Forgot to switch to your alt account, dude. 😏

[@user-gi4qy7lq6h]

haha yeah what a moron @@Brasswatchman

[@aaronb.8838]

@@user-gi4qy7lq6hyou forgot to switch accounts lol

[@prestigemultimediagroup6436]

Love t'lyns sass when activating the transporter lmmfao