She's Worse Than I Expected | Dehya 1st Impressions

[@coledorillo6685]

People think Zajef is just a Dehya hater. this man has been spamming Dehya builds, trying his best to find a decent role for her. If that's not dedication, I don't know what it is.

[@akatosh5792]

Dont mind those people, this community has a very dumb part to it and that part will defend their waifus with their life.

[@Faustkiverian2380]

Nah it's not a secret that Dehya kit is poorly designed (jumping cancel her burst lol) even at some situation Diluc and Klee is better than her, so people cannot think that someone is Dehya hater simply because telling she's bad. Even Gacha Gamer which always gives an positive review, become kinda disappointed in his Dehya video.

[@poonpoon1604]

Too many people really try to compare her to kokomi artifact situation it's unreal

[@dogo523]

​@@Faustkiverian2380 i dont know why people consider diluc and klee to be THIS bad

[@hiney4662]

Nah he's on our side. I don't think anyone is really a Dehya hater, we're mostly on the same side.

[@uzshanka1676]

MHY did a great job of cutting every possible escape route for Dehya to be even slightly userful gotta give them that

[@TacticalDimples]

Yeah, it tells us that they know exactly what they’re doing. So moving forward, we should stop asking “why did MHY do x” and start wondering wtf were they thinking when they did X.

[@gigitrix]

Incredibly polished experience of frustration

[@Akechifan]

Bravo Mihoyo, Dehya is truly the 5 star of all time

[@theLanceInPants]

clearly a tactical decision. Make an egregiously shitty character out the box to force the esthetically invested to buy more constellations to make their shitty character to be less shitty and more playable. Manufactured problem: solved!

[@MrSegadude21]

​@@theLanceInPants they failed that too. If she was not put into standard I would of actually went for cons but not anymore

[@kos_y]

She's really defying expectations isn't she.

[@dareo.]

*dehyafying

[@mike81356]

I expect nothing less from the unit that Powercrept Qiqi as Worse Standard 5* 💀

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Our expectations for Hoyoverse were low but holy fack!

[@gameexpert133]

In all the wrong ways bro :(

[@JustSomeGuyWithAMug]

Dehying*

[@zzzelios]

You know it's real bad when Zajef sounds defeated while saying "Hello Beautiful People"

[@Tyler_Not_Taylor]

When the battle begins, Dehya uses her elemental skill, forcing you to play circle impact. She deals fuck all damage with standard ICD, and mitigates damage up to a limit for reasons only Da Wei could know. When energy is full, Dehya locks herself into her burst animation for years causing an even greater DPS loss than Zhongli's meatball.

[@mike81356]

At least the Dehya memes are well-cooked Chef’s Kiss HYV meanwhile served her Raw 💀

[@thinkangadgets3041]

Wait it's the REAL Tyler Not Taylor YOOOOO. Love your mashups

[@JustSomeGuyWithAMug]

And i wanted my comment to be a copypasta like this XD

[@anonnymus3652]

remember that HYV has all the data here so i really, REALLY do hope that her stats are like that because they found out that she's busted (or working to a functional degree at least) when combined with a certain feature/artifact/character in the future they are developing.

[@hulahupjingga]

Using dainsleif voice

[@daniloacc92]

One of her "selling points" was the resistance to interruption, and that ended up being a 9 seconds effect on 18 seconds cooldown... Everything about this character it is literally bad on purpose, i have no idea what Mihoyo expects to gain from this.

[@YaeGuuji]

they just hate dark skin characters in china. Thats a fact sadly :(

[@byeetch]

to make u feel bad when losing a 50/50 ig, incentivises you to spend more and get the limited character

[@sanae99.9.9]

XQ also give interrupt resistance :)))))))

[@cedrusnguyen5188]

To make you feel bad when you lose your 5050 to her in the future of course. Many have been too happy when they get Tighnari upon losing 5050, so they have to dilute chance to get him a bit by throwing some abomination into the mix.

[@longphi5876]

@@sanae99.9.9 Not to mention Xingqui dmg mitigation is what it supposed to be, you press burst and 48% of incoming dmg gone to the thin air, not share it 50/50 with your other characters😂

[@Goldi_27]

dehya is really badass damage: bad 🔥 usability: ass💯💯

[@Hanifhi_yahayo]

💀

[@naya1521]

💀💀

[@henriqueabreu9706]

💀💀💀

[@verysupercoolwastaken]

💀💀💀💀

[@mayagari50]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@Footballfan896]

They really wanted Dehya to be a character that makes you go, "dang, feels bad that I lost the 50/50". It is so sad because her design is so cool, but her numbers are so sad.

[@Akechifan]

At least I won't feel so bad about getting Qiqi on a 50/50 (Copium)

[@theLanceInPants]

Dehya: the only banner where you lose the 50/50 100% of the time

[@titan5064]

they heard you can run qiqi with fridge and had enough of our nonsense

[@astra8372]

@@theLanceInPants well there was that keqing banner...

[@s2wuolf508]

But Tighnari was well designed and he was always meant to be standard, wtf happened

[@xiiistepsforrequiem915]

Don't worry guys. **Inhales** Every single character in Fontaine is going to have synergies with her! **Inhales** Also, we are getting a new artifact set for her in 3.6 **Inhales** And that new artifact set won't be just a minor damage increases over Emblem with no utility **Inhales** Dehya is just like Kuki, Yae or Kokomi man, people don't know how to play her. Also! **Inhales** The ult jump cancel is clearly not a mistake, is a feature intented to make her able to trigger another instance of burgeon! **Dies from copium**

[@eduardopereira6698]

so it was you that stole my copium tank...

[@mikyeediaz120]

*Gives fried egg to revive*

[@zoxl345]

​@@mikyeediaz120 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im actually dying

[@thespaceweaver6766]

Please do not exhaust the world copium supply, everyone else needs it too

[@amnos180188]

I mean we are getting new artifact set that's cater to her though idk how much will it buff her. So at least this one isn't copium at all.

[@ЕленаБорисова-т2з]

Dehya is just a hardcore difficulty button for the game

[@mike81356]

W9 difficulty unlocked with Dehya lol

[@theolailheugue9402]

An hardcore game mean you have the time to clear the content to max. Who s not even the case. For that you need a f***ing c6 r5 dehya 💀💀💀

[@Noob4745]

The reverse Zhongli

[@KrisPBacon69]

Is this the endgame content everyone was looking for?

[@kauanpereira2777]

So dps Aloy + dehya enabler is the "bro you need help mode"?

[@krisimpactbruh]

"Don't worry guys I'm SURE we are missing something, we will find out more when it's 3.5 " "So yeah she is out and we found out she is somehow worse then we thought"

[@lostblueboy]

This is why copuim and hopuim are actually bad cause u just do nothing and wait for things to magically get better. Well...my friend....this is reality now. Accept it, for all of us.

[@luminous3558]

​@@lostblueboy Tbf hoyo got beta feedback, they just ignored it.

[@lostblueboy]

@@luminous3558 true...but not what I meant. Nothing gets a company going like boycotts, it would set a fire under their ass to get their shit together

[@RADZIO895]

It was true, we were missing something I wish we weren't tho

[@tinybabybread]

@@luminous3558 They didn't ignore it. They were specifically after negative feedback initial beta feedback: she's kinda ass hoyo: just kinda? gotta nerf then update feedback: wtf are you doing? she's absolute shit hoyo: perfect.

[@shi-chan5779]

Im really mad right now. How can you talk about her being bad without triple crown C6 Friendship 10 where her Q gets 10x stronger bruh

[@otaku-chan4888]

pass me some of the copium you're on brother, it looks like it's stronger than the batch i have

[@vortex5537]

Idk man and the r5 weapon too

[@hulahupjingga]

Idk man and 1000%cv artifact

[@shi-chan5779]

Guys listen once Level 100 in 3.6 we will get a new passive for all Standard units and dehjya will scale full HP PAGMAN

[@JustSomeGuyWithAMug]

Idk man and the japanese audio that increases damage output

[@sirkimestry4524]

He tested Dehya for like 5 to 6 hrs straight! The dedication is real.

[@BrianXu352]

I’m guessing 2 hours of that was trying to kill a hydro slime

[@princepecanpiemc518]

@@BrianXu352 okay that is funny

[@leandrecook179]

@@BrianXu352underrated comment lol

[@Fosifar]

Bless!

[@KC_Smooth]

More time than Mihoyo’s battle team did!

[@freddiet.rowlet525]

I knew Dehya was going to be bad from a theory crafting perspective already, but when I played her test run - the thing that's supposed to make you want her - and Bennett did more damage than her, I just couldn't stop laughing

[@titan5064]

you know IT'S BAD when they put bennett in another character's test run

[@michaelharis9962]

I played her trial. Then i played cyno's. Needless to say cyno felt like a literal god compared to her

[@katacutie]

I swear it's the first time I've seen a non free unit like bennet in the trial. Maybe they realized that she would never get her burst back without him...

[@knmrt2760]

@@katacutie same I haven't seen anyone mention that but as far as I remember even when Bennet was featured on a banner he was never added to the 5 star Trial team... I don't think any featured character was ever used in the 5 star trial either until this patch

[@ushiima]

@@katacutie they did this with faruzan (trial heizou) and alhaitham (trial fischl) too

[@KC_Smooth]

Mihoyo’s battle team had the perfect opportunity to make Dehya a cool, limited, Burgeon/Burn DPS to show off their new Dendro reactions, BUT instead they gave her a jank kit and tossed her on the standard banner. They need to apologize to the modeling and story-writing teams.

[@TheRealSarceus]

And to us, because her popularity warrants better treatment.

[@franlychandraariefmoerwant1040]

@@TheRealSarceus to us? Dehya iirc always at the lowest character popularity survey from all sumeru character here (asia). I think she is only popular on west

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

@@franlychandraariefmoerwant1040 yea shes not popular in asia (pretty sure we all know why but thats not my point) but even so, without changing her kit they couldve just like, changed some of her numbers around and she would be at least functional. its like mhy actively didnt want to make money, ffs even xinyan isnt as bad as this

[@franlychandraariefmoerwant1040]

@@curryfishheadenjoyer what are you talking about?, please give example of defensif character that had good number multiplier beside zhongli (thanks to stupid community uproar), Pretty sure all defensif character had terrible number, see qiqi, high heal, terrible number, thoma, high shield terrible number, kokomi high heal and high hydro app, -100 crit rate, diona high shield and heal aoe, terrible number, why you want dehya the 2nd exception (beside zhongli (thx to stupid uproar)) P.s sorry bad english, its like 4-5th language i learnt

[@jsw973]

​@@franlychandraariefmoerwant1040 Zhongli's multiplier is good because Geo has no reactions, not because of stupid uproar. The uproar just gives him a little bit of hp scaling, which is still worse than atk if you're building damage. Defensive utility has bad numbers, but usually good enough defensive utility or other utilities. Thoma's shield is the 2nd best 4 star shield, but he also applies pyro every second. Diona's shield is weaker than Thoma, but she can also heal and be a battery. Layla's shield is the best 4 star shield if you don't plan on making her a battery. Dehya though? This 5 star mitigates half of the dmg the active character get (it goes to Dehya, not shielded or reduced as far as I know), for 9 seconds with 18 seconds of cooldown. She can actually die off field because of this. I think that's pretty bad as far as defensive utilities go. What does she provide besides bad defensive utility? Her E is much slower AND less reliable than Thoma's Q for burgeon, a 4 star defensive unit. Her Q's scaling is about as good as Diluc's normal attacks. Its also much faster, but without Xingqiu/Yelan and only for 4 seconds, which can get cancelled if you jump. Even her normal attack can knock back a small enemy far enough that her next hit misses. Overall, all part of her kit is abyssmal, and unless you just really like her design/character, pulling on her banner is a waste.

[@PowerOfTheAsian]

A little fun fact about Dehya too: each tick of her Redmane's Blood DoT also breaks one XQ rainsword.

[@canaldecasta]

Oh my god

[@bidabigaming1042]

WHAT

[@kuyarence]

It's basically taking damage so it makes sense why XQ's Rainswords can be broken

[@abba9881]

wait are you serious wtf

[@abortedButGoated]

doesn't matter she doesn't work with xingqiu anyway

[@leek_san]

I love how Zajef crowns her to make a point. She barely works at high investment.

[@richcast66]

At high investment she is as strong as my c3 shogun with no artifacts. That just blows my mind

[@mukeshkhera1381]

He didn't to make a point as he said in stream anyone who plays her can tell she is not good he crowned hutao to make a point but crowned dehya because he like dehya

[@njcheddar]

​@@mukeshkhera1381 true. From what I see, he really likes Dehya as a character, which is why you can feel the pain in his voice whenever he talks about how bad she is.

[@quangamng]

@@richcast66 wait ,is it good or bad?

[@yanrinn]

@@quangamng its not

[@Kaiji...]

I like how you can see that the first Raiden team did the floor in like 30 seconds & even with 9:30 left Deyha's team still barely scrapes by.

[@richcast66]

I never thought I would see a day where my mono geo outdamages a pyro dps regardless of vape, melt, or burgeon

[@Aaron_Kuroiwa]

@@richcast66 it’s kinda unfair to compare her to pyro DPS characters or any DPS for that matter. Compare her to defensive flexes like Thoma or Zhongli. In that case she’s pretty bad. The lack of good energy generation and defensive uptime is embarrassing. Her kit reads like a 4*. In that case I think she’d have potential once you get c2.

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

@@Aaron_Kuroiwa and a bad 4* at that, its like mhy looked at xinyan and was like ah yes our newest 5* lets just do THAT again but worse!!

[@TheLastGhostLegendario]

@@richcast66 *Sees at my 30s-1m mono geo team* uh i supose i am very talented or something f2p btw.

[@notatallfunctional]

The only true Dehya “haters” are the people who designed her kit at Hoyoverse. The writers and artists clearly put a lot of love into making her, so it must be especially painful for them to see all that work to make such an appealing character go to waste.

[@YuzumiNoya]

The numbers of damage this character deals truly are numbers.

[@Biohacker777]

I agree, her pyro applications are very pyro applications

[@ALEX-db6rr]

@@Biohacker777 he probably meant it as a pun that her damage are *numerals*, you know, those ten numerals 0-9, from which we get actual numbers like 12

[@Biohacker777]

@@ALEX-db6rr i got the jokes, i tried doing the same but you don't get mine 😅

[@leka2095]

out of all the pyro characters, she sure is one.

[@fredgopher1956]

No matter what you say, she is the current best 5 star female pyro claymore!!

[@epicdarkraifournineone8006]

Dehya's release has been the epitome of "My expectations were low but damn!"

[@Soundwave1900]

*but HOLY FUCK, i'm sorry

[@cem777]

Man who thought he'd lost all hope loses additional bit of hope he didn'd even know he still had left

[@jsw973]

I hate how absolutely fitting this headline is

[@Poochyvert]

20:16 so it looks like the best way to play her as a carry is to play on mobile where the button to mash out of freeze is a separate button

[@jsw973]

Oh my god true Dehya is the mobile-friendly carry we all wanted all this time pog

[@hayond656]

@@jsw973 I mean... Every other character also has mash out of freeze as a separate button

[@thebrigade7684]

Broke: tripple crowning Hu Tao to prove that she's overrated and failing Woke: double crowning Dehya to prove that she's underrated and failing

[@hulahupjingga]

Wait till mihoyo added abyss blessing, "increase Dehya damage by 500%"

[@theLanceInPants]

500% dmg all enemies are a combination of hydro/cryo

[@luminous3558]

@@theLanceInPants Maybe she can now one rotate a hydro slime

[@RADZIO895]

that would at least make her any useful (for a single abyss)

[@katacutie]

She would genuinely still do less dps than hutao...

[@theLanceInPants]

@@luminous3558 paywalled behind c6

[@JordanTheLittle]

Oooohhh I see, I get it now! Dehya is a Shatter carry, but she can only react with our expectations. Truly a great character.

[@Tralixder]

using dehya is like using qiqi, but as a battery

[@mike81356]

Wdym Qiqi is a Battery Kappa lmao

[@theblacksakura8732]

Tbf if you have cons for qiqi she can actually generate energy and with sac she can generate a decent amount. Basically qiqi is a better battery than Deya is a defensive option…by a noticeable amount..

[@koringavp3669]

When you bring xiangling you bring dehya as a battery

[@theblacksakura8732]

@@koringavp3669 unless your using xiangling on field that’s not near enough energy… one particle per coordinated attack…fav thoma would still be better if you’re just looking for a battery

[@koringavp3669]

@@theblacksakura8732 yup, my comment is a reference to that video were qiqi is a battery

[@Farisss11]

If kazuha and bennet cannot make her good, nobody can

[@BulletSponge71436]

Wise words, comrade, wise words.

[@spankymcmillan]

I mean her burning team does work fairly well.

[@teaQtheQT]

@@spankymcmillan The reaction does more damage than her. Just bring any Pyro character lole

[@spankymcmillan]

@@teaQtheQTI'll explain the rational for choosing Dehya for a burning team: The point of choosing her over another pyro is that she frees up another BETTER pyro for another team they can do even more on, and it helps isolate high EM into 2 units rather than 3. normal burning = Nahida Bennett Kazuha Xiangling. That's 3 characters will be activating burning. Xiangling has many other teams she can do a lot more on than a burning team (Childe vape, Ganu/Ayaka melt etc, Raiden national, etc). Oh look here's Dehya with MUCH slower but off field pyro application than any other character which means her stealing and owning burns happens way less often than Xiangling's fast applying no ICD having pyronado. This means that with Dehya rather than Xiangling the two characters getting almost every burn will be Kazuha and Nahida... both of whom ACTUALLY scale with and want very high EM anyways. So Dehya fills the role of applying pyro while allowing Nahida and Kazuha to do even more damage. Burning teams are kinda nuts in aoe, and it's ACTUALLY a good team for Dehya to fill a role in that plays upon both her strengths and many weaknesses while giving up much less by using her. That said, Xiangling on the team the team WOULD do more damage, but you're using Xiangling when you could just use Dehya who is apparently trash and worthless. And while her over Xiangling is a net loss in damage, it's not so much that it can't easily clear say side 2 of current abyss comfortably with time to spare. So, you replace literally the best pyro character in the game with literally the worst pyro character in the game and lose very little, letting that best pyro do her thing on a strong team on the other side.

[@szarekhthesilentking7043]

​@@spankymcmillanwhy not use Thoma then? He has a shield, applies pyro more frequently but not super frequently.

[@DarthMogs]

It's actually ridiculous that she has so many issues. I was telling my friend about how bad she is and the amount of times I had to go back and go, "OH YEAH I FORGOT" to bring something else up was almost comical. I'm just so fucking madge

[@doodlegarbage6769]

that dehya burst did as much damage as my unbuffed yoimiya skill 😭

[@kirin1230]

Doesn't Yoimiya's skill cast literally do no damage? 😭

[@doodlegarbage6769]

@@kirin1230 THAT'S THE POINT 😭😭😭

[@kaslexus8374]

When I realized her skill wasn't hitting the seeds because the enemy was too fucking tall I had to pause the video because I started laughing like a damn lunatic. 10/10 character, best mechanic in the game.

[@matthewgarza6816]

That “Hello beautiful people,” doesn’t sit right at all. That’s how you know it’s gonna be bad…

[@nfrance999]

It’s like they’ve heard too many people say “you know almost every character in Genshin has some worth” and really wanted to GENUINELY make you feel bad about losing 50/50. No “oh well I didn’t get xyz, but Tighnari or Kequing are still cool” no it’s straight up “this character is god awful”

[@aminehouzane6223]

I can't believe how strong her reaction capabilities i mean she's the first 3 star character to make some content creators to not sugar coat her kit And literally every good showcase it's only with kazuha Mona Bennett and dehya All c6. And r5 😂

[@Faustkiverian2380]

To make thing worse, i see a comparison about C0R1 Hu Tao actually does more damage than C6R5 Dehya which is wtf???

[@Hanifhi_yahayo]

@@Faustkiverian2380 well i believed that HYV didn't mean to make her as a damage dealer

[@kzavverr3651]

@@Hanifhi_yahayo she sucks at everything else too tho

[@-Pakman-]

@@Faustkiverian2380yea it’s insane how low her numbers are

[@KrisPBacon69]

@@Hanifhi_yahayo She also sucks as a support. Barely any particle generation and damage mitigation which is a direct downgrade to healers and shielders.

[@arachne5656]

Mr. Zajef videos are very calming tbh, the chill jazz music, the keybord sounds, and Zajefs hysterical laugh

[@Josph4]

When I first got Dehya I couldn’t believe it, she can apply pyro and has an elemental skill and a burst she can use. Truly the first tall female pyro character.

[@guidomista5738]

Yk what's even funnier? I haven't seen any people discussing it but her N1 sometimes goes through enemies. It happens only when I use spam button on my mouse (to not click manually for each normal attack) and it seems for some reason she's the only character that has bug with it. I think spam button hit normal attack so fast that I cancel animation and dmg of my N1 lmao.

[@YourBoyToy1769]

This is known to happen with sucrose too afaik but haven't heard of it with anyone else til now lmao

[@TheJuicyTangerine]

I like how in the monopyro showcase you get all of the kenki's to 50% hp without even using Dehya, only to switch to dehya and doing 10% of the kenki's health.

[@mike81356]

Imagine even being worse than in Beta om Her coordinated Atk so small that you might even miss the Dendro Cores for Burgeon and if you jump during Burst, it’s cancelled so Rip if you get Frozen 💀 DehyaMains getting intentionally shafted by HYV Smoge

[@Akechifan]

The burst being cancelled by a jump is crazy. Hoyo were on a mission to make the worst character to play ever and they succeeded.

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

Actually, if you just Don't mash out of freeze, it extends your burst duration, and you don't get cancelled. Actually a buff, true, not cope

[@xdtrollface5721]

bro they nerfed her burst damage in beta they were like "nope some c6 r5 might outdamage hu tao c0 on black tassel we gotta fix that" it was a total 10% dps loss

[@robertjif6337]

@@undeniablySomeGuy yeah and watch the abyss timer ticking

[@richcast66]

I had no idea that you PC players jump when trying to break free of freeze.

[@gullugadha]

Man you look depressed, feel sorry for you, understandable however, she really deserved better

[@mike81356]

DehyaMains have been through all 5 Stages of Grief multiple times already. We’ve ran out of all the regulated COPIUM tanks and some have been resorting to the off-brand Stuff 💀

[@LightshaverConstellation]

As a Eulaless Eula main, sorry they shafted you guys so hard. It is painful to watch how bad she is when everything non gameplay related is on point.

[@FunZenCh]

@@LightshaverConstellation what in the eulaless eula main lmao, i hope you get her when mihoyo release her from their basement 👍

[@KirbySaysBweo]

@@LightshaverConstellation As a fellow eula main, may you get your ice queen and many constellations when hoyo frees her from her shackles. Maybe she'll come back in golden apple archipelago rerun with a skin...

[@vandergrift5557]

​@@mike81356 dehya mains don't exist

[@Ethos711]

I had an epiphany while watching. Mihoyo saw too many people complaining that the game is too easy, so now people can pull and play Dehya to make the game harder. Now I understand!

[@BulletSponge71436]

Truly an eksdee moment.

[@eulacuteuwu]

truly one of the characters of all time

[@maxxvii2037]

Amazing Bennet showcase Mr Jeff, keep up the good work

[@ChozotheBozo]

He didn't even go into the fact that Dehya just CANNOT handle enemies with elemental barriers like Abyss Mages and Abyss Heralds. Her skill only does a coordinated attack if damage numbers appear. Also she only gains energy from her skill from the coordinated attacks. So basically she can't perform those follow-up explosions for pyro application and she can't build energy to even attempt to punch her way through.

[@richcast66]

How did they fit so many wrong things into one single package

[@yowrange]

My disappointment is immeasurable and my Dehya is ruined.

[@TheRealSarceus]

All our Dehya was ruined

[@jomjom230]

Tried using her in 12-2 with the constipated beasts where I think her E could at least be useful but NO. I still get knocked, the enemies are big and their moveset is bullshit they pushed me out of the circle a lot and since Dehya's CD is bs can't even recast it I wanna cry bruu why she like this

[@MeteoBahamut]

Every time he laughs about Dehya you can also see little pieces of his hopes and dreams leave his body.

[@baconmandanthe3rd944]

hey, on the bright side, thanks to dehya i found out a bunch of cool things about the enemies in this game! for example, did you know that the pyro fatui agent, when left alive for long enough, uses his shadow things and does a cool all-out attack? crazy right?? And get this, in the cryo regisvine's second phase (i didn't even know it had one!!), it starts doing this cool pose and ice spikes start spawning below you!! thank you hoyoverse, truly, for making a character to let me appreciate all the enemies in the game! /s

[@svince51]

NGL, for those who don't know any better, Zajef made Dehya look good in those abyss runs.

[@hayond656]

Not Gonna Lie? You mean FYI for "For Your Information"

[@ThishandlefeatureISdumb]

Zajef: I don’t like to waste resources. Also Zajef: crowns Dehya’s elemental skill and burst.

[@partiallywhole]

It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.

[@vert2552]

20:00 Thank you. That's what i was saying on reddit. This set doesn't make sense as it's made JUST for Dehya, making you grind whole new domain just for her, JUST to make her work better, and if you really think about it, it really does not help her or improve all the bad aspects of her kit (jumping around, knockback, energy problems, some comments about her apparent skill CD being bugged, her scaling, bad stats overall, being clunky... etc). She was my second fav Sumeru character but it is stunning how far they went to make EVERY possible aspect of her release bad

[@Nowaylarry]

I have a suspicion that the set isn't actually for her but for a future limited character with similar mechanics (but better). Considering the other new set is a hydro set it seems likely that the domain is intended for some future characters. Fontaine is likely only 3-4 patches away.

[@karashuun1083]

Eh, I'll take the 2pc for my Nilou though. Especially F2P Nilou without her signature will appreciate more HP.

[@partiallywhole]

ngl it looks like a good C6 Yelan set

[@justacatwithasadface2692]

On the flip side, Dehya's great for fashion shots with other character. My pal who pulled for Dehya had me pose with different characters in front of a Dehya skill because it has wings motifs on cast, so we got some pretty good glamour shots. We both acknowledge that she's real clunky, especially when trying to do rotations, but we really appreciate the concept of "character tanking damage off-screen" despite how bad Dehya is overall. If Hoyo isn't fixing her, we kinda hope they implement more of that tanking concept in the future.

[@CocoMeilif]

I didn't have my glasses so when I read what was written on the thumbnail I saw "Dehya 1st Depression" and I was like "yep checks out"

[@Juice-chan]

I get sick when people even defend Hoyoverse and say yeah don't use jump when you don't want the burst to be cancelled. Or don't use the burst at all and just use her as intended tank. Like lol this is like a car company selling you cars with broken brakes and they jump into their defense and say: Don't push the gas so hard so you will slow down eventually and don't die in a horrible accident". It is the same stupid logic. And no matter what the company does they can't stop shilling for them.

[@nyuuh]

That roast from the ruin drake absorbing cryo is just mental PAIN..

[@ChonchI64]

every time someone in game says that she is strong it feels like hoyo is teabagging her and made her bad just for fun

[@dgmojojojo]

I only cant think one positive trait of Dehya: fun to play. other than that her kit's like being designed by an amoeba.

[@icthiolavarunt5363]

Idk man, she isn't even fun to play in the overworld

[@monotool]

she's not fun to play, it's just the burst animation that's fooling you

[@dgmojojojo]

@@monotool nah i mean it. Animation-wise Heizhou punch things while Dehya feels punch the universe. Her (lack of) utility, damage, synergy, energy regen, elemental application, (too much) knockback on the otherhand... issa garbage. Surprised MHY gave us the first 3 ✨ character. I hope the banners income fails immensely so that they learn they never made another character like this ever again

[@haku1145]

That's the saddest "hello, beautiful people" I've ever heard Smoge

[@mergentaro]

gosh it's pretty telling when xiangling's aoe ult is putting up bigger numbers than dehya's single target ult.. maybe there is an upcoming character she will be cracked with but at the moment i'm astonished with how poorly she's performing.

[@richcast66]

Idk man she is so bad, that any future character that makes her good, would probably also make already good units god-like

[@Tharon1105]

Dehya truly is one character, one of the most character, if not, a character

[@iturnedmypikachuintoararec4846]

For those who skipped Hu Tao and Yelan for Dehya, I hope you're feeling okay. 😬

[@p1o_nutella650]

Yes because not everyone is a meta slave 😬

[@theLanceInPants]

@@p1o_nutella650 not sure if dehya main or copium addict

[@CatLover25201]

​@@p1o_nutella650 Then wtf are you doing on Meta channel? 😂🖕

[@aidanowo3146]

bruh i think the reallllly safe option for a dehya main is to skip her and patiently wait for her on 5050s. its just the question of do you want her now or not

[@liquidefreet]

@@p1o_nutella650 It's not about being a metaslave or not. Deyha simply does NOT function as a character in this game. Everything, and I mean littteraly EVERYTHING is wrong with her kit. The people saiying her best team is hyperbloom Nahida/Kuki/XQ/Deyha without ever swapping to Deyha are right. She's been metodically destroyed by the dev team, they thought about rendering useless every single aspect of the character. It's almost a work of art in some way but I'm gonna stop there because I might start throwing insults at these A-holes.

[@Akholyte]

Finally a character I don't have to fight to use in co op 😔💀

[@FranciscoJG]

If they don't kick you/leave your world

[@Red_the_pirate]

I honestly thought Dehya was going to be Hoyo's new favorite child. Her character and design are amazing, she's been featured in almost all Sumeru archon quests, they even gave her her own dedicated web event, which they've only done to how many characters so far? Hell, even at a glance, her kit doesn't look that bad. A skill that can apply pyro somewhat-consistently even off field, and an Itto-like burst of multiple attacks going ham on whatever. But then they got to her multipliers and usability, said "fuck it", clicked "randomize", and called it a day. They really did my girl diiiiiirrrty.

[@bigballedlegend5592]

for real, shes got an interesting kit and the off field pyro is something we need a lot more of. if she has any combination of good multipliers, actual hp scaling, lower burst cost, higher particle generation, shorter cooldown, longer duration on her skill, literally any one or more of these, she would be a lot better than she is now

[@bigballedlegend5592]

like zajeff mentioned, she works well enough in melt ganyu but the duration is way too short and it feels like i can barely get much shots off before i have to redo the rotation. so disappointed bcs i really wished there were better options other than xianging for her lol

[@Ivy-jq6di]

The web event with Dunyarzad? Every 5 star gets a web event. I still remember Kazuha's web event on his first banner. Let's be real here that hoyo's favorite Sumeru child other than Nahida is Alhaitham. They smoked something to make his kit meta-breaking when beta started

[@Lilyene0]

It's funny how people are calling him a hater when hoyo literally made her standard character for a reason. Dude, the last time someone called a standard Pyro claymore dude bad, no one batted an eye. But when their beloved waifu gets called that they trash everyone without even a justifiable point.

[@raulmaltrain6893]

is this truly the timeline where aloy is not the worst character in the game? -aloy does generate a decent amount of particles (can dip into sac.bow as well) -has an o.k-ish burst for nuking in quickswap teams. -can pretend to be good with shenhe / kazuha

[@knmrt2760]

Also everyone who got Alloy got her for free, getting a terrible unit for free is not really bad at the end of the day it didn't eat into any of your hard earned primos... However if you get Dehya excluding this patch, you'll most likely have spent a fair amount of primos aiming for a limited char to see this hot garbage drop and man that's going to hurt...

[@learnshredguitar]

@@knmrt2760 aloy was also avoidable, I'm a day one player and don't have her. took a whole year for that email to expire but worth it to not see that ugly ass red card. dehya isn't avaoidable unless u just dont pull anymore. that being said im still pulling for dehya.

[@xanderx3788]

Most importantly she doesn't screw your pulls on the limited banner.

[@BulletSponge71436]

I fully upgraded Aloy, gave her 10/9/9 talents and I have to say that she's not as bad as you think she is. Oh, and of course she's waaaay better than Dehya.

[@raulmaltrain6893]

@@BulletSponge71436 aloy was the worst character in the game until dehya appeared...

[@devondorr8212]

I thnk it's worth mentioning that in burn melt ganyu you can give dehya the sumeru craftable claymore, which could be her BiS in that situation because of the EM buff it provides and some extra ER% for more burst s. It also surprisingly fits the rotation timing. Edit: someone pointed out in the replies you'd lose nahida's ttds in this case, which is true. Did some quick calculations and the EM provided by its passive is way too little without refinements. Basically you need to use a ATK% weapon and ATK% 2pc effect set for this weapon to be the BiS. Would be better if Nahida can actually hold the ownership of burns, but isn't likely due to dehya's E refreshing burns.

[@midnightemerald]

Is it that much of a buff seeing as how quickly em falls off after 200 for melt (and how nahida gives you that 200)

[@devondorr8212]

@@midnightemerald I mean it's f2p and you truly don't have any really suitable weapons on her except for probably sac for uptime and fav for energy.

[@CC-kp7ge]

​@@devondorr8212 Most rotations want to go from Nahida to Ganyu to pass thrilling tales. Losing thrilling tales for Forest Regalia seems bad

[@devondorr8212]

@@CC-kp7ge you don't need to pick it up I guess, but I can see it making it more complicated to play.

[@CC-kp7ge]

@@devondorr8212 the issue is that regalia only triggers on a dendro reaction, how would you trigger a dendro reaction without nahida first?

[@dogo523]

i honestly believe her being this bad negatively affects game balance, her existence invalidates the tanker archetype she belongs to, because whatever new tanker character is added will need to be dragged down to dehya's level not to openly powercreep her and will depend on their alleged hyper strong artifact set allegedly coming in 3.6.

[@dogo523]

powercreeping in reverse is not better than just usual powercreep

[@jsw973]

​@@dogo523 in gacha games, I'd argue that its still better than normal powercreep... for the players. Reverse powercreep means we aren't incentivised to spend for new characters, the old ones are the best. Normal powercreep makes people spend money to keep up. I'd say the option that doesn't make people spend money is still the better one.

[@dogo523]

She didnt even need to be powercrept, just needed to make her HP scale into EM or vice versa and make her apply pyro 1 or 1.5 seconds faster than now, then she'd have a niche as the burgeon character we wanted She is just a filler arc, the first half of 3.5 is filler

[@bestthebanan]

intro really opened my third eye

[@perfectiondreamusa]

don’t worry guys we just need a good pyro buffer and she’ll be great wait…

[@bazah23]

Damn she’s beyond bad😭 This is only day one of her release I wonder what will people discover about this broken(literally) character

[@Ethonra]

This just reconfirms my thesis that Dehya was an experiment on "Will they still Wish for Dehya if we make her suck...but hawt?"

[@lamlam9044]

Suck lol

[@DanielJN1996]

This. I had the same thought.

[@actpianocover6329]

I think this same statement already happened during kokomi's first banner

[@Ethonra]

@@actpianocover6329 If it did, I was unaware. All I heard about her was the Can't Crit Memes, but that one artifact set turned her from a meme to a decent unit. We can only pray Dehya is in the same boat. Short of the Zhongli Treatment, a cracked artifact set is our last hope.

[@honeynutcheerios8830]

@@Ethonra clam set isnt what saved her. you dont even use clam on her in her good teams

[@RealJayNice]

The expectations for Dehya was high but in the end she became a Genshin Meme.

[@DInfiltrator]

I just saw some crazy copium in a Discord server I'm in: "Yeah people were very wrong about Dehya’s damage being bad. Poorly built at level 53 with no leveled talents hitting for almost 2000 damage with a normal attack ain’t bad at all She’s almost 40 levels lower than my Raiden yet still hits for almost the same amount of damage per hit Granted the dps isn’t nearly as good because Dehya’s attacks are kinda slow, but still" I want Dehya to be good. She looks so neat, her burst looks really cool, I see what they wanted to do, maybe. But it broke me seeing the burgeon, the thing she was maybe supposed to be good at, miss because the enemy is too tall so the fire pulse missed the seeds.

[@jalcome4201]

Mono pyro getting the kenkis to 35% hp before dehya even had the opportunity to do anything is hilarious

[@Ethan-yd4gn]

The one good thing about her character is that she at least seems kinda fun to play with the way her skills work, but on the other hand, that fun is destroyed when you get smacked around during her burst and/or cant even kill a single enemy. MHY really dissappointed tf out of everyone by screwing up a character tons of people loved

[@TomMosquera01]

just realized how sharp zajef's vision is. if he didn't mention 'wait a second' at 12:08, i'd never understand what he meant.

[@isaac8109]

That "Hello beautiful people" depressed af said everything

[@dennisl9176]

I almost think zajef is joker laughing in this video lmao. Like "he used to think Dehya was a tragedy. But now he realized she's a comedy"

[@Xendrick]

People will see the thumbnail as clickbait But if you watch the video, you can see he's trying his absolute hardest finding builds and teams for her to fit in and the thumbnail starts moving closer to the truth

[@Daedalus_9]

You watch him deal damage with Dehya and you kinda get used to it, especially if you don't do the Abyss; then he switches to Ganyu and like... 3 shots the Ruin Guard, while Dehya needs 2 bursts (that she probably won't have up in 2 rotations) to kill it...

[@jae7798]

i still think she'd be half decent if they reduced her energy cost to 40

[@webbedshadow2601]

2:27 Love how not even a second after Dehyas field expires she gets sent flying cause no interruption resistance 😭 they could've easily given her 100% uptime like Albedo and Raiden, come the f on hoyo.

[@MiTine]

funny how i saw people saying that somebody will find good things in Dehya when she realeses, but in fact people only find new ways in which she is bad💀

[@shel9185]

As a husbando collector who plays Waifu Impact, I’m not sure how Alhaitham got the treatment he did and Dehya got the treatment she did…

[@elgoblino4188]

Was alhaitham good or bad? Wasn’t playing that patch

[@bud05]

@@elgoblino4188 alhaitham is a very good/high damage carry, unlike dehya who is comically bad in every possible way. like others say, it's almost impressive.

[@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303]

@@bud05 watch baizhu be op

[@eduardopereira6698]

@@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 ... just go read about his leaks... liyue favoritism isn't a thing suuuuuuuuuurely

[@byeetch]

@@eduardopereira6698 To be fair I'm pretty sure the Liyue favoritism thing is a little exaggerated, they have quite a bit of not so good units like qiqi, xiao and arguably ganyu who's outclassed by ayaka in freeze. Zhongli's also pretty overrated imo but i think most ppl have come to realise that outside his defensive utility he's not that great

[@quangtuantran7181]

Her being abt to cancel her Q is good guys, because Mihoyo knew it was definitely a misclick when u used it. Such good developers, always looking out for the players

[@williamhawkins542]

Her canceling burst by jumping isn't a bug, it's a feature since her burst animation is such a dps loss.

[@kirithdacus9765]

MHY: "we heard you don't like that every enemie dies if you just look at them funny. to this problem we present: Dehya. just put her in your team to prevent enemies from dying to quickly."

[@dewanegara8333]

Dehya jump cancel is one of the most broken mechanic in the game.

[@sanae99.9.9]

Sarcasm :))))

[@dewanegara8333]

@@sanae99.9.9 i mean, it DID LITERALLY BROKEN tho. In negative way, ofc.

[@sanae99.9.9]

Indeed

[@Chen-vw5nc]

baizhu on the other hand. Bro the leaks looks so nice and I am very excited

[@coldbacon4869]

He’s from Chi- I mean Liyue after all

[@thebrigade7684]

I'm scared about his energy... Signature gives 12, in a rotation that's about 24 which is a lot plus the C1 is extra charge. It's not a good sign because you won't be able to easily stack 50k HP to reach the max reaction damage buffs.

[@awesomepieman8760]

definitely a character that exists

[@kiz7300]

"Ehi Zajef, how did you get this jacked all the sudden?" "Easy, my beautiful friend. Everytime I discovered a new problem of Dehya... I did one push-up." "Jesus Christ..."

[@KOT-up7fm]

Daehya fans, it's time to unite our efforts. Together we begin to write to technical support that Dehye needs a rebalance. Let's do it friends! Perhaps our voices will be heard if we unite!

[@ikkimurrell1074]

dehya feels like nice unit for beginners when you have no idea how to build your characters and you just pick most cool looking ones

[@yuwenze7029]

Except if you got her, you need to go all the way to desert area to farm for her materials. So I don't think she is even beginner friendly in a more casual perspective

[@ikkimurrell1074]

i forgot she is from desert.... yeah you right

[@matteofaccin6636]

I hope the people saying "doomposted hurr durr Kokomi Raiden Kazuha can't trust before I see" are happy now

[@kirkalmeida]

The annoying thing is we basically don't get a character this patch, that's half the content gone, maybe Mika will give me something to do.

[@spartanpancho117]

Stage 5: Acceptance We did it everyone in 2 months since her beta testing the community managed to get through all 5 stages of grief in record time Stage 1 Denial: "no no no, don't trust whatever the TC's are saying about her, they are obviously wrong, something something remember Kazuha and Kokomi :^)" Stage 2 Anger: "How dare you mr streamer say this virtual character in a video game is bad, i will proceed to throw some abuse your way because im terminally online and respect pixels more than people, also something something you are racist idk" Stage 3 Barganing: "no no no, you don't get it, her defensive support is huuuge, and you can trigger elemental reactions with her skill, the livestream voice told me so" Stage 4 Depression: *Banners are teased, she releases and people discover the jumping thing and burgeon problems "man this sucks why did mihoyo did her so dirty :^( And finally Stage 5 Acceptance: "Yeah she might suck as a damage dealer but she is soo pretty and i play this game for FUN, not to metaslave ;^)"

[@thebrigade7684]

AINTNOWAY 💀

[@Soulferno]

Pretty sure the acceptance part was people realized that she not only was as bad as people were saying but that it's entirely too late to say anything if it was at all possible to change her. Actually, I'd go as far as to say that we've yet to see acceptance. Not until the next update when we see countless Dehya's benched

[@fredgopher1956]

Mfs be writing Metaslave in response to the doomposts like they think it's a dmg problem. No you idiot, her entire kit is a problem!

[@godhimself7708]

I like when people try to make certain characters work but honestly I’m tired of some people defending her as if their life depended on it and even resorting to rude and arrogant behaviour, lashing at others. Like bro just accept the truth that she’s bad.

[@godhimself7708]

To clarify I’m not talking about Mr. ZaChef here

[@lestatstaton7856]

See the 999th problem with Dehya they found?? Her Sig Weapon, Bacon, Does NOT apply its Damage bonus to her full ult if you have C6. The Final kick at least will not get the bonus dmg from the weapon passive. I cant believe this is a real character lol

[@yuwenze7029]

Wait really? Ah hell nah 💀

[@JayZireael]

DehyaAndHerFellowDehyasWaitingForABuff

[@Biell1516]

its so nice of them to finally release a melt ganyu support :)