SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY: HILLSBOROUGH - THE HISTORY

[@twohat3116]

Huge respect for Wednesday, soft spot for them, want them to be in the premier league where they belong (villa fan)

[@36RChris]

Proper football ground is Hillsborough. I can still remember the view of that east terrace kop end from the away end before it was covered, it was immense!

[@jonnyreb789]

Respect soft spot for Wednesday chelsea fan

[@LarryDaHat]

Right at the end aerial view "Hillsborough in 2018. We wish. Closed corners and no pillars in the kop would be amazing! I love this ground. My first sight of it as a 9 year old will always be with me. The fans, the singing, the atmosphere! ONLY at Hillsborough! ❤ Great video!!! 👍👍👍

[@tkb4026]

It's crazy how the stadium looks so similar to from now to what it looked like back when they were constructing it for the 66' WC.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

Only the leppings lane stand was new for the 66 world cup Just saying Don't have a pop, May be you didn't know?

[@tkb4026]

@@doyoulikebeetroot I did say similar didn't I? And I sit in tke kop on most weekends, the corners of the stadium still look the very similar to back in 66'.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@tkb4026 Yeah it's still recognisable, My comment was really about you saying the ground and constructing it in 66 etc, I was just pointing out the change was just the west stand, Anyway The big change being the kop roof, Plus obviously the South but it was built keeping many of the aesthetics of the original, P.S. I sit on the kop also, My first game was in 84.

[@tkb4026]

@@doyoulikebeetroot I've been sitting in the kop for this season with a season ticket. Will be getting one for the grandstand next season as the facilities there are great.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@tkb4026 Aye the South stand is the place to be if you want the refinements

[@paulclarkson9391]

Excellent vid. The '1950's' match v Villa was played in 1928. Owls won 2-0 as part of the Great Escape. In the days of 2 points for a win, Spurs were about 10 points clear of us with about 10 games to play. Spurs were relegated. They'd finished the season early and gone abroad thinking they were safe. The 1935 practice match was to prepare for a cup game at the Nest, Norwich's tight ground then. Wednesday won and took the FAC in the final v WBA.

[@fredmciverslovechild]

Correct regarding the "1950's Villa match"....it was actually the last match of that 1927/28 season and the 2-0 win kept Wednesday up. Incidentally, the Villa player standing just outside the penalty area was the great Billy Walker who became Wednesday manager in 1933.

[@davesheldon2874]

I love the old girl.... so much character. Modern grounds are identikit , soul less and dreary

[@1986tomdavies]

Couldn't agree more. Grounds with stands built during different eras are the best, even if those stands have been modernised to a degree. You can feel the history of the club, unlike the new plastic bowl stadiums. The only thing that can save them is safe standing. Absolutely gutted to see Goodison Park & Griffin Park are the next two to go, but great to see Fulham, Liverpool, Forest, Bristol City, Palace, Plymouth etc investing in their existing stadiums!

[@Steaks652]

Agreed, loved Our Old Lady...... Ninian Park.

[@Round_07]

One of the few proper football grounds left.

[@chrisbell5920]

0:38 > this is fascinating-- compare the modern aerial view of Hillsboro with the 1910's map. Then go to 1:53 and notice how brand new it all looks. There are hardly any trees growing along the banks of the Don. The photo shows how the East Bank was originally just a huge, shaped pile of earth and rubble with the original slope to gain admission. The same slope was still in use in the early 80's before the roof went on the Kop, I well remember using it many times. Damn steep it was too. The lhousing of Vere, Fielding and Bickerton Roads looks brand new and all clean and shiney. But above all, there is but ONE vehicle in the whole scene. Oh I just love history!!

[@malteseowl]

Do you remember getting the coke in your shoes ? Came straight through the piece of cardboard ROFL.

[@mrkipling2201]

Rather haunting that picture taken of a game in 1990 from the ‘ infamous’ tunnel at the leppings lane end.

[@smittenthekitteninmittens2679]

that stand was a death trap

[@mrkipling2201]

SmittenTheKitteninMittens big time.

[@breadandcircuses9967]

re the kennedy assassination museum was it named ' infamous ' before or after 15th april 89 ? its not like they had previous near misses or anything .

[@edwardogrady6587]

@@breadandcircuses9967 it’s hard to see how & why the FA continuously used this ground for high profile games at the time like FA cup semi finals, apart from its geographical appeal as a neutral venue. There had been neumerous incidents of crushing & overcrowding at the leppings lane end long before 1989. Grounds like these were dangerously outdated & unsafe at that stage to handle crowds of that magnitude, all while Wembley lay idle & unused. Perhaps it was seen as an unfair advantage to the London clubs to have these games at Wembley but at least the crowd could enjoy the game in comfort

[@breadandcircuses9967]

@@edwardogrady6587 I was a secondary schoolboy in the early to mid 80’s and went to arsenal home games , i hung around the stadium during the everton v southampton 84 fa cup semi final and sneaked into the north bank with about 15 of the 90 minutes left when they opened the gates and got a feel of the evertonians in the north bank , i find it poignant and sad to think that someone like steve kelly could have been there , but even then as a kid i sensed the police were ignorant and lacking something and avoided them and always liked to stay near the exits , found it a bit at odds that more politically aware people than me at the time put their safety into the hands of these clubs and the police , people like bert millichip colin moynihan brian mole and roy hattersley a ‘ keen sheffield wednesday fan ‘ have seemed to have got off lightly .

[@tomovwessy]

1998 team look like something out of 1800s

[@LarryDaHat]

They were! 🤣🤣

[@benwherlock9869]

💥

[@V007Bondy]

best ground in england

[@megaowl1233]

True

[@petergreen2552]

Take a bulldozer to that Leppings Lane end. Every time I see that stand on the TV for a game of footy,one scene comes to mind. Do it today.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

You got the cash for a new build? Cool

[@Wickerrman]

Feel free to pay for it Peter, till then it'll stay.

[@tkb4026]

Safer than ever now, no stand up seats at all. Is this what you wanted? Hillsbourough is still an amazing ground although of what has happened we have recovered greatly from it.

[@anthonyhousley6934]

@@tkb4026 you only think your have recovered all the football world will always remember that stadium for what it was a death trap

[@malteseowl]

@@anthonyhousley6934 Only when drunken ticket-less Scousers pushed in.

[@gruppenfuhrer73]

great stadium, i think the main flaw with the leppings lane end was as you get through the turnstiles most people would automatically go to the centre of the terrace section 2 , resulting in why pens 3/4 were as i have read and watched , was always the first section of the terrace to get filled then overcrowded , lets be honest on that horrible day 95% of liverpool fans would have went straight to the entry that took you too pens 3/4 right behind the goal as soon as the police opened up that exit gate. 6/8 police men/women should have stood at that entry and direct fans to the other entries to the wing terraces ( easier said than done i guess)

[@bertcert991]

My late uncle paid one old penny to hold the FA Cup in 1935 what nobody realised was that it was probably the last time the cup would be seen in Sheffield

[@thefivepoints]

The last picture is of the proposed redevelopment which would have taken place if England had got the 2018 world cup.

[@georgefloyd9035]

Love this ground. Will love it till I die.

[@naeslav]

It doesn't mention the Duffy the Bounce Slayer!

[@markhayes734]

Shaun Flanagan bounce slayer. Typical, unintelligent, piggy, red and white drivel.

[@craigeast3682]

Excellent 😊

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

3:40 Slight nit pick That's not 1966 Leppings lane 66 stand isn't built That's an areal shot from 1960 and was used on the early 60s programs

[@andisadler2897]

Hillsborough-Been there loads of times. Always thought it was a great stadium, they had FA Cup Semis there after all. One of the classic British Stadiums it was. What happened in Semi 89 wasnt really the stadiums fault, it was the police fault. In the 80s i always loved the way the stand looked like it rose behind one goal in the home end.

[@breadandcircuses9967]

apparently there was little or no signs or staff directing fans to the outer pens in the 87 coventry vs leeds semi final either where there was another crush so to say it wasn't really the stadiums fault needs some correction i think .

[@georgewba6245]

could you do a video on the hawthorns mate?

[@peaccy7404]

👏👏🙌🙌thanks

[@jennytaylor415]

I have a mate who says that the capacity of Hillsborough is only 33500 now and the kops capacity is 10600. At last the police and safety experts are starting to do there job right. It's a shame they didn't do it before the disaster.

[@malteseowl]

It's a shame the Pushers won't admit their part.

[@davesheldon2874]

I have a mate who says that your mate knows nowt.. Hillsborough Stadium, has a 39,732-capacity

[@danielledewitt1]

MalteseOwl The disaster was Duckenfields fault.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

Small point Its just Olive Grove Not "THE Olive Grove" Oh and... 3:54 Typo "STITZERLAND" AND.... Last pic is concept art at how the ground would have been developed had England got the 2018 or 2022 world cup, Wikid vid though.

[@robertcook2572]

Yes, what a pity those conceptual improvements never happened. Hillsborough is what a football ground should look like, rather than those yawn-inducing bowls.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@robertcook2572 I agree, Think 40mil was the figure mentioned at the time? Ah well Still love the place.

[@tracybull4812]

@@robertcook2572 red bull said that if they buy the club they will change the ground to this concept even if England isn't world cup

[@robertcook2572]

@@tracybull4812 Hope it happens!

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@tracybull4812 What's your source for that please?

[@speakfreeley4473]

Saw the pre-1960s shots of the ground & the Leppings Lane end could take about the same capacity as the Kop. While the North Stand had to be redeveloped when Hillsborough was chosen to stage games for the 1966 World Cup, all that was needed for Leppings Lane was a new roof & nothing more. Back then like the Kop it was standing only & would have been much safer with it. Unfortunately they chose to put a what turned out controversial stand where the upper tier was seated. This resulted in the standing area being greatly reduced & spectators there complained about that, notably overcrowding & entry. They simply turned Leppings Lane end from what looked like a perfectly safe stand into what would become a death-trap, & was proved so, along with all the near disasters before when completed for 1966.

[@jacobburtonswfc]

Amazed it got Euro 1996 usage as it was only seven years after the disaster.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

Fences had gone and the leppings lane end street entrance was opened up more The actual ground wasn't the problem It was the lack of control at the bottle neck at Leppings lane and the fences, Hillsborough was used to big crowds for home games vs the bigger sides Its not like the semi-finals were the only time 40k plus turned up, The ground was safe before the fences and has been since removal, People need to stop blaming the ground as a whole The safety certificate was only for the leppings lane end also People are under the assumption it was for the whole stadium. Hillsborough isn't a new boring custom built bowl stadium but it's still one of the best traditional grounds in the country, The fences bastardised the stand and made it into a death trap.

[@jacobburtonswfc]

@@doyoulikebeetroot I guess so, doubt it would ever get considered if England hosted another World Cup or Euro.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@jacobburtonswfc It was to be one of the grounds used if England got the 2018 or 2022 world cup The last image in this vid is actually the concept cad design of how the ground would have been developed had England got the finals.

[@jacobburtonswfc]

@@doyoulikebeetroot Id have been amazed if it had been used

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@jacobburtonswfc It was nailed on as one of the grounds It had been decided and was earmarked to receive 40mil for improvement

[@garyshaw6002]

Early on in this video there’s a team photo. It definitely isn’t from 1998 like stated lol

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

You know, you could be right!

[@malteseowl]

Would 1898 suit the photo better, do you think ?

[@berniecrackers2499]

I'm pretty sure that wasn't a 1998 picture

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

Which pic? He dosn't say any are 98 Time stamp? There's something majorly wrong about one pic though but I ain't saying

[@OwlsAndDolphins.]

doyoulikebeetroot 0:34

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@OwlsAndDolphins. Oh yeah Haha Missed that typo!

[@berniecrackers2499]

@@doyoulikebeetroot haha, great Video tho.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@berniecrackers2499 It is I've seen/got copies of all the pics shown and it's a real snapshot of the early stages of the ground He has used the best pics available I'm a Wednesday programme collector and the earliest real one I have is a 1912 home game I love to see the pics of that time thinking how the ground looked when whoever bought it attended the game, I'm a bit of a history nut and know a lot about the development of the Hillsborough ground from 1899 onwards, (The Olive Grove site is now a bus depot if you didn't know btw) My first at Hillsborough was 1984 Seen some major changes in that time.

[@rhysbroomhead5660]

WAWAW

[@clyth41]

0.30 1998 team photo at the olive Grove? Wow cameras were really bad in 1998...

[@marketches1974]

The final image is what the next proposals are meant to be and not how it is in 2018.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

No That's concept art of the ground as it would have been developed had England got the 2018 or 2022 world cup Won't happen now.

[@marketches1974]

@@doyoulikebeetroot That's what I've said just about. I should have said were meant to be instead of are meant to be. My point being that it's not a real image of the ground in 2018 as it sort of suggests when the caption comes up.The image looks that real.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@marketches1974 That's true it suggests that and I've picked up on it in one of my comments I just thought you thought those plans were still going ahead, Shame really, The concept image looked great, Would have been around 40mil worth of improvements.

[@marketches1974]

@@doyoulikebeetroot No I know Hillsborough very well as an Owl and knew about the proposal s. Would have been great to see it upgraded.I love an old fashioned ground but it's been overtaken by many,many stadiums over the last 25 years.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@marketches1974 Very true.

[@mattoscarbonee]

My team in the FIFA Master League

[@oldboy1690]

1:47 1921 look at the crowd. All flat caps. Maybe my grandad is amongst them!

[@UserName-br5zu]

0:33 I don’t think that was 1998😂

[@memmott]

Our original ground was actually Bramall Lane, not Olive Grove.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

NO it wasn't Wednesday just rented it from the cricket team for the bigger matches they played, They played at several venues at the time around the City, Never heard a Wednesday fan think that before, only a handful of Wednesday games were played there, well before the formation of United, Wednesday had no residency of Bramall lane at all, United only started due to the cricket team raising the rent to Wednesday and had to find a way of making up the shortfall when Wednesday then decided to find a perminant home, Because Wednesday told them to fuck off the cricket team formed a football side that became United.

[@tkb4026]

@@doyoulikebeetroot Well said.

[@breathetheowls9495]

What about Owlerton?

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

@@breathetheowls9495 The area is Owlerton still and that's within the borough of Hillsborough When the ground was built it was referred to as Owlerton ground but the club started to promote it as just Hillsborough because the Hillsborough tram was more reliable than the Owlerton tram and also more used/frequent, Wednesday had just relocated to what was then the remote outskirts of the City and it was a very controversial decision taken dispite the fans who didn't vote for the Owlerton option first in a crowd vote at one of the last games at Olive Grove, The club still moved there however for financial reasons and the Hillsborough area grew, In 1899 it was a long way to expect the fans to travel given that the previous ground was in the City.

[@paulclarkson9391]

@@breathetheowls9495 : Owlerton is a suburb of Hillsboro. Owlerton stadium is a dog track/speedway track about a mile away from Hillsboro stadium.

[@Evemeister12]

Proper football ground

[@leahapril3726]

Wow! In need of major remedial work!

[@anthonyhousley6934]

It needs bulldozers and a wrecking ball

[@jammyjolly1401]

"1998 photo at Olive Grove" 0:33

[@UserName-br5zu]

We were going for the retro look that year.

[@jammyjolly1401]

@@UserName-br5zu agreed

[@neilpurnell7075]

Proper working class club with working class fans, always have been always will be. WAWAW UTO FTB

[@denmaswijaya8928]

Please Millwal FC

[@markhousley84]

Hi what I don't understand is whats their real name is it Sheffield Wednesday or the Wednesday or are there two different clubs like Leeds city and Leeds united in the record books there's a club called Wednesday and a club called Sheffield united but then in 1929 the Wednesday disappears and there is two Sheffield clubs Sheffield united and Sheffield Wednesday did the Wednesday go bust and start up as Sheffield Wednesday same as happend in Leeds as a Leeds united fans I'd like to know because Leeds united was formed in 1919 if you starred in 1929 Leeds united are older.

[@jennytaylor415]

They should be Sheffield Wednesday fc 1929 if they was honest. Because a club is it's name. And they was only Sheffield Wednesday fc from 1929 it's dishonest.

[@phampshire6864]

Leeds City was disbanded after a betting scandal. Leeds Utd were a new club. The Wednesday just added the name of their city, it was the same club, same owners, same players, same record books and history.

[@jennytaylor415]

@@phampshire6864 yes but it's a different name you can't just add something and it's the same the name Sheffield Wednesday fc didn't exist before 1929. Simple as that. A football supporter

[@jennytaylor415]

@@phampshire6864 I think the Wednesday coped Sheffield United fc by putting Sheffield at the front of Wednesday. Simple as that. Sheffield United fc had that name for 40 years longer if Wednesday wanted Sheffield in its name why not put it in at the beginning? There was Hallam fc Sheffield fc and Heeley fc and the Wednesday fc. No they saw Sheffield United fc name and just coped. Now they are making out it was always their name well that's not true. A football supporter

[@mickydeedah9680]

@@jennytaylor415 Seriously, Wednesday have never copied Sheffield United for anything, Sheffield United were created to use a cricket ground (Bramall Lane) in the winter months Wednesday on the other hand built their own ground at Olive Grove, if Wednesday had stuck around the S2 area for longer Sheffield United probably wouldn't exist. The name Sheffield United came from the amalgamation of several cricket teams (Sheffield .... united), Wednesday who were also previously a cricket club were known as the Blades before United were, so pretty much everything United have done is copy Wednesday .... United have always been the second club in the city of Sheffield, accept it and move on, maybe go and comment how wonderful your own club is while you are are enjoying the moment under Wilder, instead of letting the typical 'Bitter Blade' syndrome getting the better of ya !

[@johnrobertbainbridge7667]

Can we have the original owl back please.

[@PaulRickett-l7b]

Some bad typos in there lad

[@stewpotswfc74]

Team photos at beginning of film says 1998 instead of 1898 lol

[@jmshorrors9847]

I need to know more about this football team can anyone help me please

[@mahirhussain4890]

I can

[@jmshorrors9847]

@@mahirhussain4890 yes

[@mahirhussain4890]

@@jmshorrors9847 any way I can contact ?

[@jmshorrors9847]

@@mahirhussain4890 my email

[@POSTEPORG]

These guys look really hipster...ish for a 1998 picture 😉

[@AllTypetv]

Do one wi dem blades 💯✅✅

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

He probably needed that in English to understand you but anyway he already did one. Click kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2eWomOFhteseMk

[@adosborne4532]

For the 96

[@josephmellor3793]

An away fan pays £35 for a ticket and gets stuck behind a pole

[@antonyhobbs1144]

Home fans on the Kop are the same mate

[@hwilky]

Where the disaster at

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

It was, That all you wanted to say?

[@malteseowl]

Only one of Liverpool's disasters. There were others.

[@jennytaylor415]

@@malteseowl no not Liverpool disaster. It was Sheffields disaster. Swfc. Sheffield council. South Yorkshire Police. There was no safety certificate for the leppings lane terrace. The club new that 10,000 was too many people for the terrace. That's why the secutery graham Mackrell was charged. Remember he was a club employees. The club is as guilty as him.

[@smittenthekitteninmittens2679]

the same thing nearly happened there before the Liverpool v Forrest match

[@Clixz_]

U forgot the 1989 accident

[@samdaviesaviationandfootba2602]

No mention of the Hillsborough disaster !!

[@AviationSimulation]

Nothing to do with Sheffield Wednesday

[@anthonyhousley6934]

@@AviationSimulation it was Wednesdays ground and their responsibility. That's why the secutery was charged. He was employed by the club. Swfc rotten to the core.

[@AviationSimulation]

@@anthonyhousley6934 because it was their ground doesn't mean it's their fault. That's like saying North Korea dropped a nuke on the etihad stadium with 50k people in it and that means it is man city's fault. No it doesn't. It's the police's fault

[@junglejamesie]

@@AviationSimulation Apart from the fact that the layout of the Leppings Lane end was a death trap & was a disaster waiting to happen, and that the club hadn't renewed the grounds safety certificate since 1979, you're bang on.....

[@samdaviesaviationandfootba2602]

@@AviationSimulation even though it occurred in their football ground

[@alexandruvisan7509]

Carrow road next

[@tkb4026]

#UTO #WAAWAW

[@ethanswallow-gaunt4186]

UTO

[@ethanswallow-gaunt4186]

🦉

[@stuartbonshor5759]

Leicester City Please

[@magdebates2697]

toon fan please dont go down to league 1. would be a very sad day.oh and will use please have fukin brucey back lol .

[@samuelwragg8615]

Its time to knock this old stadium down

[@denmaswijaya8928]

First

[@jennytaylor415]

It's great that you are the first you should be proud.

[@jasminwilsher1433]

All Wednesday ain't we ⚪🔵⚪🔵⚪🔵⚪🔵⚪🔵⚪🔵⚪🔵⚪

[@mickyflynn4721]

Shitole...

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

Your house? Why don't you move then?

[@emt43043]

Give up this club is nothing more then a dump

[@AviationSimulation]

People who have an obsession with trains shouldn't have an opinion

[@emt43043]

greta thunberg official free speach and yes people have every right speak their mind

[@theredfacedgamer5494]

WAWAW

[@barriereader9116]

No