Shein - The Controversial History

[@FunkAndFluff]

Imagine being so shady that Temu of all companies ends up suing you.

[@TheOtherBill]

So Shein is the Wish of Alibabas.

[@ghostface5559]

That doesn't make sense I'm confused what do you mean?

[@FunkAndFluff]

@@ghostface5559 Temu is known for using codes that install spyware on devices that browse their website and mobile app. The class action lawsuit Hu . Whaleco, Inc. going on right now is investigating this matter. Temu is also known for selling counterfeits, selling merchandise of unknown origin (not necessarily illegal, but definitely sketchy), dishonest business practices and poor customer service.

[@elcafecatlife]

@@ghostface5559 alibabas and wish are bootleg amazon, they copy amazon when it comes to products and the quality is always lower, shein copied alibaba and wish, so the already low quality items are even worse

[@dix0n778]

Chinese Oligarchs suing each other.

[@coffee_2234]

Shein and temu are the top controversial store when it come to fast fashion

[@happicheshirecat]

But Temu isn’t a fashion brand lol 😂

[@coffee_2234]

​@@happicheshirecatit still is part of the problematic company thought selling cheap clothing but other dangerous stuff too

[@coffee_2234]

​@EnriqueMcQuadesamething that what shein ben accused of finding lead in some of their products

[@carolusrex9918]

@EnriqueMcQuade Lead

[@anonymeister123]

Lead, has been found

[@maicydownton7949]

The sad part is fast fashion has been making all clothes worse. Even higher end places will not guarantee quality clothes. But Shein is accelerating an already bad trend and I'm close to sewing my own clothes because it's getting so difficult to find high-quality materials and well-crafted clothes now.

[@demi-femme4821]

I used to be pretty loyal to Roots Canada, but their quality has gone massively downhill while their prices haven't.

[@kmcclarney]

It's the ikea effect on everything. All the gloss with no quality becuase everyone is ok throwing things away. But at the same time these people talk about saving the environment etc

[@littlekirby6]

Two of my jeans that I bought a year ago are already starting to wear out/tear in the butt area. It's not cheap shit like Shein, but also not insanely expensive. I have no idea at this point what brand or price I should be looking for to get jeans that don't tear so easily

[@roxroxroxgrace]

This, absolutely!

[@RedAndTheCompany567]

Facts. Fast fashion is usually poor made clothes. Even if it's a T-Shirt, I care how it's made

[@PixieMermaid-fz9rt]

I frequent thrift stores and have noticed a massive influx of fast fashion/ultra fast fashion brands. The clothing can often be for very niche wearers, whether it be by size or style fit, which limits the people interested in buying it secondhand. The materials are almost always very thin and poor quality, making it so that they don't last long. This is probably intentional from the manufacturers since it would prompt consumers to buy more once the clothing wears down, and by having very low prices the consumer doesn't feel bad about buying more clothes. Sadly a lot of this stuff will end up in landfills and the cycle of waste continues.

[@freshc9240]

You just restated what was said in the video lol

[@DavidKen878]

If the clothes are poor quality and don't last long then why is it sad of they end up in a landfill?

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

​@@DavidKen878The clothes aren't biodegradable, they're going to just sit in landfills. Even when people think they're doing better by donating them, those clothes will just go through a lengthy "hot potato" game of being passed around the world. Even a developing country doesn't want the garbage of cheap clothes and yes, these individuals have been interviewed and expressed their frustration of all of the clothes ending up in their country and the quality of it. They understandably find it embarrassing and degrading.

[@DavidKen878]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Ok? The world is literally filled with war, disease, famine, air pollution, and corrupt governments, and you're complaining over landfills of cheap clothes. Understandably you see why not a lot of people take that as a priority right? Also, those developing countries certainly have bigger problems than that. To hear that's what they're embarrassed about it kinda funny.

[@BlanekdCheque]

@@DavidKen878Additionally, clothing also requires resources to make. Each piece that ends up in a landfill is water, electricity, and fuel wasted since clothing can last far, far longer than a single season. And these factories are churning them out by the ton.

[@prettypic444]

Shein proves the point "when something is THAT cheap, you should stop and consider HOW they're making a profit"

[@vyneshindenmc6181]

Shein is not cheap here in my country, infact it is one with the big luague companies

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

Never mind that... All I care about is O... M... G! I have trashy I mean fashionable clothes for pennies! Look at my trashionable haul and cry rivers because you wish you were me! I'm not at all dying inside, I have everything in life sorted, no problems at all! Emulate me!

[@MK-1010]

Companies like Amazon and Shein remind me of the image of a snake eating it's own tail. As in nobody cares about the huge number of employees being treated horribly, as long as the buying public can buy their cheap stuff.

[@tutelohim2104]

Amazon, is that you? 🤔

[@ChairmanChico]

11:26 “Are they a harmless company?” In a word….. no.

[@davemccage7918]

Most of my clothes are older than Tick Tock.

[@FANTAVISION]

There is lead in the clothes and most likely forced labor somewhere in the chain of production. If that’s not enough to boycott, I don’t know what is.

[@nozarashi4329]

Yoo Fanta in the Company Man comments?

[@DavidKen878]

I don't know what's more hilarious: the idea of boycotting a worldwide multi-billion dollar company or thinking that people who buy their cheaply made poor quality clothes actually care.

[@DavidKen878]

@@Clover12367 You seriously think a company that uses unethical labor practices is going to respond to customers and admit it? There's no way you're this naive.

[@Clover12367]

@luke5100 yeah it sucks and it's so unfortunate:(

[@PrimalDialga]

Hope you have a fanta-tastic day

[@hagstik]

It sucks because the only reason companies like Shein and Temu get traction is because they sell their products so insanely cheap in comparison. I hate it sm

[@Generallyannoyed2024]

You just described supply and demand and the USA’s entire history of capitalism.

[@FearMonarch]

More that they can pay to spam every ad break ever and bribe some influencers to advertise it and it grows like a weed

[@KingJKickz]

They can cuz it's straight from their factories

[@KaitouKaiju]

Yeah and most people can't afford better because wages are shit

[@BioHunter1990]

Look into how international postal rates are determined. Your taxes are subsidizing the ridiculously low postal rates CCP companies get.

[@kiitkats.]

the topic of fast fashion is a whole rabbit hole, thanks for the amazing video!!

[@I0NE007]

My mind instantly goes to the adage "If it seems to good to be true, it probably is." And seeing some of the advertised prices on these meteorically rising apps just raises so many flags and concerns to me. And after trying to look further into each, I have vowed to stay off the fashion app, the general goods app, and the social media one.

[@jgust2154]

I don't use Shein and have no comment about the company so I just wanna give a shout out to company man for making great videos with fantastic information and always very well done 👏

[@companyman114]

I appreciate that!

[@honeysunday]

You could make a video about any company ever and i would watch it. Love you dude

[@dana102083]

You mean every company ever...?

[@honeysunday]

@@dana102083 any: you can pick whatever company and no matter what I’ll watch it every: you can make a video about every company ever and I’ll watch it 🤓🤓

[@juancerda-duran1824]

I’m probably one of the lucky ones who didn’t get a SHEIN ad before I watched this video.

[@DavidKen878]

How does that make you lucky?

[@ExxaltedGaming]

Welcome to the dark side. Now your entire TL will be full of it

[@Caterfree10]

I blocked every ad of theirs for a month straight before youtube stopped showing me their ads tbh. Absolute frustration until then.

[@renewagain6956]

I don't allow ads on KZbin, and you shouldn't either.

[@DavidKen878]

@@renewagain6956 But ads are how content creators get paid.

[@WaynoGur]

Fortunately ignorance is bliss. I've never heard of them.

[@elucidator1277]

Same, these are dumbass normie brands. Give zero fucks. Though I love Mike's content, so that helps.

[@lamaripiazza5226]

Me nethier

[@tacoguy210]

Are you an older guy? I think that's the only demographic that has never heard of Shein. Because I pretty all women who have bought an item of clothing online knows Shein. It's crazy how big it is.

[@Stopfollowingmeplz8]

​@@tacoguy210right. Like I've never used Shein, but I've definitely heard of it. Talking to other women who shop there or literally just keeping up with the news because of their controversy

[@Raincloudz973]

How old are you ?

[@edwardcruz6233]

And here I thought it was pronounced "shine."

[@davemccage7918]

I thought it was “SHE-KNEE”

[@GlycerinZ]

i thought it was sheen

[@Dan-cm9ow]

The company seems like the logical outcome of our current trade, shipping and IP arrangements with China. The crazy advantages we give small packages coming in is begging a country with virtually no IP laws or love for the environment to behave like this.

[@AlexandriaVagabondess]

I absolutely love how you stated that you "didn't want to speak for her" when talking about mother nature's potential opinion on Shein's practices. You're a gem Company man.

[@ПаніПончик]

Same, made me smile 😊

[@pass_]

I know nothing about the fashion industry, I live in a cave with no clothes, with an internet connection

[@eddiehuiz]

bro what 💀

[@cheesemymeat2]

Too real

[@jonathanf.9395]

You must have an astronomical hand lotion and paper tissue budget

[@unawesome-.-jello]

you must be an engineering major

[@Woozlewuzzleable]

Yeah, I live under a rock but rent is still to expensive to waste money on fancy things like clothes.

[@Kikibrat2]

I bought one pair of pants from this company in 2019 or 2020 thinking I ordered the right size...I ended up donating it to a children's shelter. That's how small the pants were. 😭

[@roseprevost8081]

I had that happen with another company. I didn't know it was coming from China until I got the shipping details, and they were supposed to 2x. Yeah, for a toddler, not an adult.

[@FruityHachi]

same happened to one of my coworkers, she bought some leggings and when I saw them they would fit a small child not a woman :D yet she still tried to gift it to us despite seeing that it wouldn't fit neither of us :D

[@soapbubbles343]

Had this happen with Amazon. Ordered a Halloween costume and I could only fit my calf in the area that should have fit my thigh. I now know to always check the measurements, not the size number. Chinese sizing is something else lol

[@insaneclownponies9599]

I'm a simple man. I see Company Man, I click.

[@ramsesabundiz]

In my country young women use Shein to buy in bulk and then resell to the public for a profit, usually for lower income population (or people who is a afraid of using a credit card online).

[@duyanhng8430]

can't knock the hustle lol

[@jamespohl-md2eq]

Which country? And who can I fund? 😊

[@tropezando]

Most of the world's cotton comes from China and India. China also produces a ton of polyester. China is the world's factory. It isn't just Shein and Temu, a lot of companies use underpaid/slave labor and sweatshops to farm/produce fiber, weave fabric, and sew fast fashion. If we really want to make change, we need to call ALL companies out, not just the ones that are newer or have Chinese names.

[@professionalinsultant3206]

Tell tim cook that.

[@TheOtherBill]

@@professionalinsultant3206 Or just stop buying his overpriced products.

[@jaimel88]

How to say you're a CCP plant without saying you're a CCP plant. Their classic move/fallacy is whataboutism.

[@tropezando]

@@jaimel88 tell me you watch conspiracy theory videos all day without telling me you watch conspiracy videos all day

[@jaimel88]

@@tropezando I don't lol but maybe actually getting out might help, because the CCP thing is very well documented, and I've seen it first-hand across 3 continents, myself. They send "international students" to talks by human rights, environmental, political, etc. activists, who actually have data, science, and facts, on their side, and all the CCP plants stand up in Q&As to spout eerily familiar trumpian whataboutisms, deflections, minimisations, etc.

[@dwood78part23]

I don't use em. But my mom & sister does. But Company Man does make even videos on companies I'm not interested in existing to know about.

[@redhot663]

You are one of my favourite youtubers! I am so happy whenever you release a video.

[@Hillers62]

I'm 61..I have had so many clothes, I had to donate much of them...The shirts, pants, suits, and even shoes I currently wear have not gone out of style, because I never bought "Stylish" clothes...I have always bought clothes that were good quality, and were classic...meaning they don't go out of style...Too many people spend so much money to look trendy, only to dispose those clothes months later because they were "Oh so last month" That is what the fashion industry wants...so they can constantly sell more...wear what you like...If you are not "trendy" so what? Don't become a slave to fashion..

[@NickyQuesne13]

My sister was ripped off buy them and then had her cc charged for hundreds of dollars of merchandise she didn't order. The weird thing was, the merchandise was delivered anyway in sizes my sister didn't wear. They don't have true customer service. Personally their stuff and Temu's merch looks shotty and sketchy af...I would never buy anything from either.

[@abradolflincler726]

Your spelling and grammar must be from temu.

[@NickyQuesne13]

@@abradolflincler726 Okay...

[@gmotz9689]

i ordered once, the packaging was better quality than the merchandise. 100% of the stuff went right into the trashcan

[@Redrally]

Sounds about right

[@mr.smart75]

Nice

[@stellviahohenheim]

You gave money to force labour? good for you

[@gmotz9689]

@@stellviahohenheim it appears i did once, yes. where did they manufacturer your pretentiouness? :)

[@RochellB46]

@@stellviahohenheimI mean someone’s gotta pay them if we don’t shop they don’t eat right 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@benjamindanielsen5204]

When I was in my teen years, I used to be into keeping up with men's fashion until I realized how poor quality a lot of brands are and got frustrated at how quickly the products would wear out, especially the ones fashion influencers promoted. I've since sworn off fast fashion and I live in the very same Carhartt t shirts and Dickies jeans I bought to replace all those "fashionable" clothes after they quickly wore out when I was still in my freshman and sophomore years of college, and I'm presently 24. I may not be "cool" anymore, but I'm comfortable and it sure beats the hell out of having to replace my clothes every 3 months!

[@PongoXBongo]

Same, but with Hanes and Levi.

[@Elendrian]

This applies to shoes as well. Peple think Cole Hahn is fancy/fashionable, but it's overpriced, and poor quality. Get a good pair of Allen Edmonds. It might be 200-300$, but they'll last you long enough to pass down to your grandchildren if you take care of them. "Buy nice or buy twice"

[@PongoXBongo]

@@ElendrianCan vouch for Allen Edmonds. Not only are they high quality, but they offer the same leather dress shoes with heavy-duty rubber soles for those of use that don't spend all day in the office.

[@Elendrian]

@@PongoXBongo Its not just dress shoes though. You can get some casual ones that fill the intermediate role. Look up "Overlords" or "Rogues". I actually have a pair of the old edition of blue suede shoes that look absolutly fantastic. They don't make or sell them anymore though.

[@Aydolf]

I stick to banana republic. Be careful because BR has the BR Factory (has three diamonds in the tag) which is garbage. The one without the 3 diamonds last long, its a noticeable difference.

[@CrystalwithaK1980]

I really enjoyed this one! Companies like Shein and Temu have really peaked my interest lately. I know Temu is still a very new company, so information is probably limited at best. I think it would be super cool if you did a video on them in the near future.

[@jamespohl-md2eq]

I wish those companies piqued your interest in learning English.

[@bluegrassman3040]

@@jamespohl-md2eqthey would rather teach Chinese…

[@abradolflincler726]

"piqued my interest"*

[@maverator]

Are any clothes priced appropriately? Seems like it's either overpriced designer label garbage, or underpriced cheap Chinese garbage.

[@mattyt1961]

you forgot the overpriced non-designer garbage as well... and depending on where you are, there is a lot of clothing made in India, Bangladesh (most of mine are... not by any choice, that is just where the companies I have to buy from source their clothes from)

[@duyanhng8430]

just go to your local mall and judge for yourself

[@Hillers62]

Can you say Supreme? I knew that you could

[@benbookworm]

Costco has reliable clothes that I believe are appropriately priced. Eshakti dresses are also quite reasonably priced for their quality and customization.

[@LiamsAnimatronicExplorations]

It's never a good sign for a company when you click on the video and hear that ominous xylophone music.

[@fwoofz]

wake up babe new company man video dropped

[@ThemePark_Nerdo]

Anyone else got one of those repetitive SHEIN ads before and/or during the video? Because I did… 💀

[@shadowpuppet8192]

I have seen MANY items from Shein in a lot of second hand shop areas in my town.

[@NomadOverNormal]

A lot of Gen Z and alpha are view forever 21 & American eagle like a Walmart brand, and shien is flaunted like it’s Gucci. Weirdest thing ever. Most of them buy clothes they never wear cause it’s so cheap… and if they do wear it, they can’t wash it because like a paper plate, it would fall apart in the wash.

[@elucidator1277]

Normies and trends are stupid.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yep I've heard of Tumi before but not Shien only because girls talk about Tumi now.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

​@@elucidator1277yeah I barely follow trends. The only trend I followed was the video Game and Phone trend. Pfft

[@coffee_2234]

Lmao little did they know that shein and majority of the clothing store are pretty much the samething 😂

[@TruTrae]

No one views Shein like Gucci, I don't know how you came to that conclusion, people just really like the designs because they are nice sometimes. It just so happens that the designs are only good because most of the designs are plagiarized. Real talk tho FUCK SHEIN.

[@PNWLostOne]

When the dollar doesn’t buy as much as it used to. I can see why the average American wants to buy things for cheap.

[@ashtreemeadow7287]

I recognize it’s not a great option for good quality clothes. I will add that as a young plus sized person, it’s extremely difficult to get clothes that look nice, are a good quality, and dont look like it belongs to a grandma. I buy clothes from shein because they have the best selection of clothes for my bigger body. I can make my clothes last for years because I gently wash them and patch any holes.

[@iheartericcartman]

I’m not plus size but I am on the bigger side. I love japanese fashion but the majority of japanese women are very very thin so i wouldn’t be able to fit into those clothes. Shein is the only place that sells cute clothes in styles I like at prices that won’t be 5 hours of work just for one dress :)

[@rolfathan]

I honestly wonder ,at least in terms of fast fashion, the fact that they are actually selling the BULK of their stock, vs clothing that is meant to last, but some companies literally throw away after a time.... which is better. I buy clothes that are meant to be "fast fashion" but I genuinely keep them for years.

[@RochellB46]

I’m obsessed with Shein I’m broke so it’s a great place to find decent clothes for a low price ❤ it’s tough out here I can’t pay 20 bucks for a top when I could go on Shein and buy 10 tops for 20 bucks lol

[@tubetoc9626]

Great video, Mike. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I have a new video series suggestion. I'd love to see a "where are they now" series where you dive deeper into the path of company owners that start companies, sell them and start new companies, and / or retire. It would be interesting to see their path of successes and failures, among other interesting details I'm sure you will come up with.

[@temporalTechnologist]

shein is about the only place that plus-size women can find clothes in our size that are affordable and don't' look like a funeral flower arrangement or something that came out of a cougar's closet.

[@NEi206]

When company man posts, I watch.

[@superkeegan9100]

As someone who has to be suggested to their ads this is LONG overdue

[@lonewolf6884]

I never heard of this company before this video

[@therealdavidleong]

You must have Adblock/YT Premium

[@mattyt1961]

​@@therealdavidleong or (like me) an older male... we definitely aren't in their demographics. If you aren't young, or buying clothes all the time, you aren't in their market. I first heard about them because of the people I work with (who fall into those categories)

[@therealdavidleong]

@@mattyt1961 i'm not in their demographic either but i still get targeted with their ads

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

They've heard of you.

[@teamsteed1]

Thank you for posting the video about Shein.

[@1antisupercat]

I used to work in a store that sold many things. Including clothes. The markup in normal clothing or even “nice” clothing is 50%. So I would argue that most clothing is actually cheep and just marked up. I suspect shein is just making cheep clothing with a small markup and selling at a high volume. I was always shocked that with my employee discount I would get under armor jackets, carhart etc would end up being half off.

[@kovona]

Clothing from the factory is cheap, but the markup is needed to pay for stuff like staff wages, lease or mortgage on store locations, advertising, logistics, etc. A small storefront in a popular mall can cost +$10,000 a month in rent alone. Online retailers can skip a lot of these costs.

[@TheRogueRockhound]

Hey man, can you help me with a source for that tax exemption law you mentioned @ 6:41 ? I would seriously like to read it.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

I don't know about tax exemption, but the International Postal Union (UN) has made it economically viable to send mail from a certain large nation who are supposedly communists to the rest of the world for a pittance. If it weren't so, then it wouldn't be profitable for them and they wouldn't do it. I claim no expertise, because it's darned near impossible to have any. The waters are predictably muddy when trying to research exactly how exactly this is accomplished, but it sure seems too good to be true. As with most things, it's all about PR, image, and saving face. Convince everyone that everything is perfectly fine and ethical, that there are independent auditors, and that anyone who asks any questions is just anti-"Asia“. With enough repetition and relentless PR, the narrative becomes reality. (There are a lot of countries in Asia. Trying to ask hard questions about one of them is hardly being opposed to the people groups of the entire continent!) Don't ask why it's economically viable, just keep buying astoundingly cheap stuff that is obviously 100% ethical, 100% environmentally friendly and definitely doesn't employ questionable labor practices. Don't you dare think it's too good to be true. That thought is hateful and so ridiculous as to be preposterous. "Everyone knows it's legit." Do not question the dogma.

[@TakeWalker]

I am very glad I heard about the problems with Shein before I started using them, because I definitely, unknowingly, would have otherwise!

[@Markimark151]

This is why I don’t trusted Chinese owned businesses, they do shady business, Shein is a terrible online retailer!

[@Markimark151]

@MckIdyll they went bankrupt, not all American companies are good, even Facebook and Amazon are terrible online companies. But I wouldn’t trust Chinese owned manufacturers, I trust Japan and Taiwan for their product manufacturing!

[@otakubullfrog1665]

Fixing the tariff system so that anything imported couldn't really compete on price no matter how cheap its material or labor cost is would solve most of these issues. All but the richest customers would quickly change their behavior to buying only the most unique or desirable items from overseas. There's really no reason that simple tee-shirts should be shipped halfway around the world when somebody could just make them here.

[@TheLastCustomer]

Yeah, but doing so would also stagnate the internal market. "Anything imported" implies not only cheap-bad quality stuff from China, but also anything between that and high quality imports from around the world. So if you relied on a European spare part or Ukrainian grain or Mexican fruits, they all would be affected and either would increase costs or force the consumer to choose from whatever the local market has and not all the time local are better.

[@KenKen-ui4ny]

@@TheLastCustomer A lot of foods and good we take for granted, are imported from other counties. Due to the simple fact we don't have the climate or resources, to produce them ourselves here in the US.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

It would be possible to produce more things domestically, but it would take an enormous campaign with buy-in on a national level. Our economy, wages and expenditures would have to undergo a substantial and painful transition to reach a new and different equalibrium. Things would cost more if we stopped exploiting foreigners working for pennies and living barely above poverty. Most people say they care about human rights, but the human desire to have more of the things we want right now seems to win every time. Shein is a perfect example. Is it possible to wean ourselves off it? Yes. Is it likely? Not without a massive change in our values and culture. It would take hitting rock bottom to break our addiction. (Think WW3 or some other catastrophic event that would force hard decisions)

[@WeAreASecret]

I have no interest in wearing fast fashion. I want to buy clothes i love and then wear them for years.

[@jj5x5_]

you've got to make a video on temu now

[@jimmyzbike]

I’ve never heard of them. I’m just shocked that fast fashion or ultra fast fashion for that matter is even a thing.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

People wanting what they want now, now, now without a thought about where it comes from? That IS shocking! I can't believe that humans would do that!

[@larryonting]

When it comes to clothing and shoes I always go to a local shop (Ross, TJ MAX, Marshalls, etc). I want to actually put them on before buying.

[@delia_watercolors]

There's an argument that arises in defense of Shein I'd like to confront- "Poor (low-income) people don't have other choices." I'm low-income and have never purchased Shein or fast fashion in my life. How? I only shop during major sales, in the clearance section, with coupons. I use all 3. If a store isn't having a major sale and I also don't have a coupon, I don't walk in. I avert my eyes from anything other than clearance. I use my phone's calculator to get the best deal with my coupons. My shopping habits allow me to get my pants and shirts well under $30, formal dresses under $50, and socks/undergarments under $10, costume jewlery under $8. My clothes last me 5 seasons, and the most I've saved in one store in one day was nearly $1000 USD (spent under $350), when I bought outfits for the year for my mother, cousin, and self from The Banana Republic. We left with 7 shopping bags full. IT CAN BE DONE!

[@larissabrglum3856]

I used to occasionally shop from fast-fashion brands like Forever 21 and H&M before I knew better, but I have never once bought anything from this new wave of sketchy ultra-fast fashion brands. I'm also fairly poor. How do I do it? I make the clothes I already have last, I shop secondhand for almost everything, and when I must buy new, I seek out brands that are considered more ethical. It's really not that hard, so I'm not convinced by this "What about poor people?" argument. We made do without ultra-fast fashion until very recently; why are we now acting as if it's a necessity? In just a few short years, capitalism has indoctrinated young women in wealthy countries into thinking that it's normal and okay to treat clothing as disposable. We're basically wearing single-use plastic now! It's insane.

[@dix0n778]

I see videos of people dumpster diving in expensive stores looking for clothes and reselling them.

[@maryroberts2099]

You shop like me! Even at CVS and Walgreens

[@randomrandom654]

Nobody wants to jump through all those hoops when there's a much more rewarding system. Being poor is hard enough, but people just want companies to be 'responsible' when all they'll do is build cartels and pass on the cost to customers.

[@ashtreemeadow7287]

May I ask if you are plus sized?

[@bojackhorsemanofhorsingaround]

I love this video. I'd love to add something! Not only shein but a lot of chinese companies even on amazon etc send stuff in those little bags like shein does regardless of the product. I save those and you can too!!! I used them in SO many ways such as: tiny storage for tiny items while moving like small parts of kitchen items and child toys, to hold baby outfits in a compact format so I could store them better in a storage box and i even used them for ages coming up and ages that have passed because theyre just so great for squishing small things into, scarf and pillowcase storage to make closets and shelves more neat, and more but you get the gist. :) reuse these little bags or save them bc you never know when you'll need them! mother nature thanks you kindly

[@pricewm3]

Let’s gooo 🖤 never have I clicked a video so fast. We love your content

[@lodgedude]

I literally only see influencers order stuff from this website

[@HisHopNation]

Can you do a video on temu?

[@ronk9830]

I was looking for a flat cap for myself, and found one on the Shein website. The price was so ridiculously low, and in general, I just got bad vibes about the website being a scam, so I didn't order. Months later I started hearing bad things about Shein. I'm glad I followed my instincts. 😅

[@itsnojiii]

What about TEMU?

[@kagarisa1426]

Or tamu as I've heard their only ad also pronounce it

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

​@@kagarisa1426I thought it was called Tea Moo but it's Tamu. Pfft

[@Foodfightmike]

I feel like this narrative is a double-edged sword perpetuated by americans. How can we simultaneously only afford the cheapest clothes in the world, while expected to have a morality superiority and are financial choices?? Like if I can barely afford a $3 shirt. I definitely can't afford a $20 shirt that's was "ethically made"

[@MayaLuv-xp7ux]

That’s my issue, I’ve tried to check out American made brands & it’s out of my budget. Shein isn’t the only clothing brand that uses sweatshops.

[@KingdomDumb]

What this told me was, If I ever make a business, I am targeting it towards women. 😂🤣

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

Or just make it seedy and lascivious and men will flock to it. Better yet, convince women that they're never pretty enough and need to buy clothing and accessories that make them more lascivious and easily objectified. Convince everyone it's "empowering!” Then you have a business model that preys on everyone and can't lose. Oops, did I say that out loud?

[@RCPropaganda]

Great stuff. Companies like this and temu are bad in the end. USA buyers are hooked on cheap crap and over look long term problems with propping up companies like this.

[@CrystalBrightz]

Never used SHEIN, never will. My local thrift shop is shady enough, thanks.

[@littledudefromacrossthestr5755]

Lol.... Nobody cares 😊

[@SamtheBravesFan]

12:03 I can believe that; it's called a manji. It's even used in the first Legend of Zelda game; it's the shape of one of the dungeons. The Yacht Z symbol is rotated 45 degrees.

[@saucysos]

The Nazis used it in both orientations. Still was a manji, but figured I’d clear that up.

[@healey714]

I got the pleasure of watching most of his career, those 49er teams were so fun to watch. Joe will always be my QB GOAT.

[@shirayasha]

Joe Montana was one of the NFL's best. He won and that's what matters. Brady is still the GOAT by far though.

[@BlkAuDiS401]

The late 80s and early 90s 9ers are the best ever. Shit I hope they when it all at the bowl

[@tbone5757]

I only found out about them within the past year. I'm a letter carrier and noticed 2 of my customers getting the same exact, odd looking, annoyingly sized box from china on the same day. I told a friend about it and they told me about what Shein was. I'm not a fan just because of my experience of delivering their boxes at work.

[@danjohnson887]

Thank you for the upload! In all honesty, I have never heard of Shein. Of course I am way outside the demographic as a white, male, age 53. I will say that until there is a specific "Chinese Tax" for every product imported (yes I'm being serious) you can expect this wasteful, exploitive, break all the rules business model to be followed and applauded by Chinese companies. A special tax by all Western Countries would destroy this model and force China to literally clean up it's act. Otherwise it will continue to be the largest polluting and slave labor using Country in the world.

[@chancetime6420]

Out of curiosity I allowed ads before watching this (plus reopening twice). Guess what company was at the start 2of3 times.

[@emilycheever3218]

I tried to avoid shopping with Shein but, for example, I’m in a wedding where I need a specific color of dress. I live in a major metro area and, even going to several stores and thrift stores, I couldn’t find any options in the color I needed. It becomes almost a necessity to shop at these places because the price, convenience and selection is literally unmatched. Especially for formal wear, which tends to just not exist in stores

[@ПаніПончик]

Why do weddings have to be like this? I'd rather have a wedding that doesn't negatively affect the economy and environment than have a color coded one. But this is the tradition of the last few decades, who can argue? 😂

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

​@@ПаніПончикAgreed. It's so stressful to the ones in the wedding to mandate that they not only buy their own dress to participate in your wedding, but it has to be a certain color, or style. All the money for that color-coded wedding is better spent on a house or something. Do a backyard barbecue at someone's home for your wedding instead, much more fun and relaxed and a thousand times cheaper.

[@VeronicaKat]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley I got married in my backyard! Everyone picked their own outfits and enjoyed the chill vibe.

[@stellviahohenheim]

Force labour is a necessity? i bet slavery is a necessity too for you huh

[@gbooth431]

Bot

[@fishingpro64]

I would love to see you do an episode on Fastenal, cool company with interesting history.

[@AlexandriatheRed]

Does anyone who shops at Target or Walmart really know where their clothes come from? I just think singling SHEIN out is weird when tons of other companies have similar practices.

[@Short..]

Exactly, especially when westerns use proven false articles as facts like this video does. Western companies do the same or much worse, but of course silence from the media.

[@ПаніПончик]

If you go to Target or Walmart you can touch the clothing, read the labels which provide information like- materials and percentages, country of origin, even the factory or region of the country of origin in which the item was made. Each "brand" in Walmart, for instance can be researched instantly. If you shop online you're already halfway there, you can just jump to a new tab and investigate. I do this, mostly because I need to know materials of clothing I'm about to buy. I'm a seamstress, so I examine the workmanship of clothing in person, too, for quality. I'm "weird", I know lol but I practice this and it doesn't take ages to determine whether or not something passes the test.

[@AlexandriatheRed]

@@ПаніПончик knowing the fiber make up or country of origin of a piece of clothing isn’t going to tell you much about the ethical practices behind their production. For example: a sweater from Target recently went viral for being crochet. This is a process a machine cannot replicate. It must be done by hand. But the item was at such a low cost, there’s no way the product was ethically produced. Mass production at affordable prices is probably always going to have a human cost.

[@larissabrglum3856]

If you look at the numbers, SHEIN produces an absolutely obscene amount of stuff even compared to other fast fashion companies, and the quality is so low that it will all quickly end up in a landfill. Clothes from Target and Walmart can at least last you a while.

[@41chemist19]

Am I the only one who has never heard of this company? It's pretty sad to think a fast to trash fashion brand can be worth 100 billion US dollars. I still wear some of my dad's old clothes on a somewhat regular basis. What's the appeal of an item of clothing that's useless in 6 months? Am I understanding that correctly?

[@youngman6355]

Regardless of the controversies people are still gonna buy from SHEIN. Either those with limited income or those who wanna follow trends, SHEIN serves a market that was created by our financial environment. People flowing from paycheck to paycheck functionally can't care about ethics or the environment. Not when food, and bills are a legitimate concern. I understand there are many on social media doing clothing hauls for views but that's the minority For most others shopping on SHEIN is basically their only choice.

[@angryzak4389]

I think it's mostly people who like to follow trends. Sure, shein is really cheap, but the quality is absolutely awful. People who live paycheck to paycheck are more likely to waste more money buying extremely cheap clothes from them since they break more easily and don't last as long, vs buying something 2nd hand from a thrift store or even Walmart which usually is just as cheap and lasts longer. In my opinion

[@ПаніПончик]

This is one of the many reasons poor people can't get out of the situation they're stuck in, and I don'tmean it in a demeaning way towards them. It is expensive to be poor! Fast fashion is predatory on the consumer and the economy of the country in which the consumer resides. Of course, there's a hundred more concerns that follow that- environmental impact being huge.

[@-itzmocha-3215]

Yup it’s really just “poor” people and teen girls that are making them the big bucks. Both just want to fit in with what they see online and don’t understand they’re being taken advantage of. That’s how I was a couple years ago in high school, didn’t care just wanted to buy a hundred $7 crop tops.

[@larissabrglum3856]

Speak for yourself, I'm poor and I give a shit about the planet I live on

[@larissabrglum3856]

​@@angryzak4389Right! Let's be honest with ourselves, the core demographic of SHEIN isn't poor people buying necessities, it's women aged 18-24 with disposable income who care about following trends.

[@jordanlaramore5430]

I literally got a Shein ad for this video 😂

[@muppen74]

Problem is that the people buying from Shein, they don’t care.

[@magau3698]

We do care. We just cannot afford a sweater that’s almost 100 bucks

[@muppen74]

@@magau3698 Really? $100 for a sweater or buy on Shein are your only options? I’m not even living in your country and I can easily find sweaters at Macy’s ranging from

[@muppen74]

@@magau3698 Really? Shein or $100 are your only options when buying sweaters? How lazy are you?

[@robert907]

Is it weird I’ve never even heard of this company? I just like your videos

[@elucidator1277]

Great vid as always, Mike. But I could give zero fucks about this brand.

[@deairreoh]

You’re going crazy this year !!! I love it

[@METALMAN4Wii]

Do Roark Capital next oh yeah they just bought Subway too.

[@happilyham6769]

My ex gf would order stuff from Wish, it was garbage quality, like, if the dollar store sold clothes, this is what they'd be selling. I think a lot of it got worn once, stuffed into a drawer, and never looked at again. smh

[@stevesideris8364]

I have an ex that described their clothing as 1 time use. She loved them.

[@ПаніПончик]

Why though? 🫤

[@larissabrglum3856]

That's disgusting

[@f0rkk]

I can see why she's now your ex.

[@ArtimusDragon]

All I know is that whenever something sounds too good to be true and overwhelmingly affordable, your best bet is to walk away. Unless of course it's a clearance item. That at least explains why it's priced the way it is.

[@markg0410]

So, Shein is China's version of Old Navy?

[@markg0410]

Funny, my thoughts exactly! $8 shirts that you can wear for a few months before they fall apart.

[@kristinemunchkin]

As someone who sews both bags and clothes the idea of all that fabric going to waste is so sad. I also think it's funny that this is the only video in probably over a year that I somehow didn't get a notification for when it was posted.

[@Kment011]

I had never heard of them up until recently, but my girlfriend bought all of her maternity clothes from them and not only loved them, but they were an extremely good deal!

[@CaptainPlanet007]

Remember, Chinese companies usually end up being misleading and this one is no exception.

[@jimv77]

I am from The GAP and Old Navy era…Wait, are they still a thing?

[@Redrally]

Yes

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yep I used to have a GAP sweater I want one. Pfft 😅

[@ElleBrOw]

𝑾𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒅𝒐𝒆𝒔 𝑮𝑨𝑷 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒐𝒓?

[@Chickengirl005]

LOL half of my wardrobe is from GAP. I'm also in my mid thirties. My mom would always buy their clothing for me growing up as a kid, and as an adult still buy their stuff on my own. Just used to/comfortable with the brand I guess. But I only buy their stuff when it is on sale. At full price nothing is worth buying. But the company is always putting their stuff on sale. Probably is what keeps them afloat from going under.

[@sigmazero3325]

I just hate the KZbin ad. The 5-second synth bar that plays over it “feels” like blood cancer somehow.

[@eurekahope5310]

Interesting. Save money, support your community, and reduce waste by shopping thrift stores.

[@angryzak4389]

Im a pretty simple guy. Most of my clothes are cheap clothes from walmart or target and most of those products last long.

[@NorthernChev]

Shein... Never heard of 'em.

[@volvo09]

Same, sounds like a condom brand.

[@Fattydeposit]

Westerners sure don't like it when Eastern companies do capitalism well.

[@LeviticusTwentyThirteen]

I’m not a fan of any clothing company, but I have to say that this claim of SHEIN exploiting the tax law is ridiculous. That law is in place to protect the individual consumer buying products for themselves. It is not unethical for them to be selling directly to consumers, and then the consumer reaping the benefit of a lower priced item. It would be unethical if SHEIN were similarly shipping products in the same manner to large retail stores to circumvent tax law. So I think you’re doing a disservice by agreeing with mainstream media that they are exploiting a tax law when the tax law was there to protect individual consumers in the first place.

[@mrmalio]

When it comes to Amazon his video is about them being Bigger than you Know. His video about Shein is about them being suspicious, yet amazon is often accused for a lot of the same practices. Anything that is Chinese is apparently bad and anything about American companies is understandable it seems

[@khiaznipanova]

I was hoping someone would point that out. I think you're absolutely right. I'm not saying Shein is some paragon of ethical business practices, but to suggest that there's something immoral about shipping products directly to end users rather than only doing larger B2B transactions is crazy. Lowering the tariff exemption threshold in the U.S. from $800 to $2 or something like that so that end users would have to pay a tariff for every single order doesn't solve anything, either. It punishes Shein's low-income customers, but not Shein itself. A hypothetical tariff wouldn't be a disincentive for Americans to buy from Shein, either, since let's be honest: the people buying items on Shein in low quantities for personal use aren't thinking far enough ahead into the future for import tariffs to even be on their radar. These are impulse purchases they're making without thinking about it much at all. They probably wouldn't even realize at the time of checkout that they'd have to go to the post office, wait in line, and pay a fee to pick up their $6 order. If anything, import tariffs on low-value orders would only increase waste, since lots of customers would choose not to pay the fee, would fail to pick up their item at the post office, and then it would have to be returned to sender, all the way back to China. It's a lose-lose proposition.

[@BuggiEU]

Meanwhile individual customers who buy in retail and domestic online stores need to pay tariffs in their price. How is this not an unfair advantage?

[@BuggiEU]

@@khiaznipanova It's not about punishing Shein, it's about levelling the playing field. Right now they have tax advantage over any competitors who ship from domestic warehouses.

[@pennykeller3048]

I don't have TikTok either but my girls do. And I have never heard of this company but thank you for sharing

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

It's all over KZbin, too.

[@nfinzer22]

Literally the first time I've heard of this company.

[@pitterpatteringwithshaneka]

Can you do a video comparing VHS vs BETA?

[@andrewplantagenet5811]

I’ve never heard of Shein until just recently. I also don’t use social media though.

[@AntoinetteChanel]

Never thought you’d cover this. Still wish you’d cover Tesco.