when luxury fashion gets exposed for being just as bad as shein

[@katierobinson]

new video on luxury fashion trying (and failing) to greenwash during fashion month!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2HamIx9osd9a68si=KF3mKiRagr7ktrrU

[@feed8647]

This here. If I pay more than 100€ for something I expect it to be a high quality, natural thread or real leather. Why should I pay hundreds of bucks for something I get at any cheap clothes store? Child labour and other unethical production means I get nonetheless.

[@lordofshibainus]

Even before their turn to fast fashion, luxury clothing has massive profit margins because of how inflated the price tag often was. Now with the short cuts they’ve taken (worse structure, materials, etc.), their profits are even larger. Luxury brands have become extremely greedy.

[@katierobinson]

yes!! didn't even mention the fact that luxury prices have absolutely skyrocketed recently at a rate far higher than rising costs would excuse... it's crazy but they know ppl will pay for the status symbol 😟

[@lordofshibainus]

@@katierobinsonIt’s scary how quickly they fall for it too. Even “non-traditional” luxury brands feel like trends: it was supreme then essentials now stussy. Sometimes it feels like people are buying to be part of a trend.

[@katierobinson]

it's gotta be miu miu and coperni for me rn 🥴 absolutely every fashion person loving them rn just bc they're trendy

[@raraavis7782]

I think this blatant disrespect towards their customers will come back to bite them. There's no hiding stuff like this anymore. And your 'fans' can turn on you and become a raging mob in a heartbeat. I really feel, like they're doing a very dangerous thing there, as far as brand reputation and customer loyalty is concerned. I'm having my popcorn ready, in any case.

[@katierobinson]

@@raraavis7782 we can have a watch party when it happens 🤠

[@lunaskye621]

The amount of times I’ve seen luxury brands selling 100% polyester clothing for hundreds of pounds is astonishing. Their profit margins are insane.

[@katierobinson]

yh it's crazy, who wants to pay for plastic and a name 😭

[@vvitch-mist20]

This is why I like second hand luxury items. They often are vintage, and better quality or a fraction of the price lol.

[@katierobinson]

@@vvitch-mist20definitely the better option!!!

[@cocolove9916]

Exactly!!! I don’t understand this

[@vvitch-mist20]

@@katierobinson I'm on the hunt for a cropped leather jacket and real fur coat. I found a long leather trench and it's the best coat. (Perfect for winter wetness)

[@StarlightPrism]

I would argue that part of the reason luxury fashion gets less criticism is because it has a much smaller customer base. Telling people not to buy Dior or Loro Piana feels less impactful because not many people are buying many garments from those brands in the first place. But many people buy lots of fast fashion. That said, I agree that the shitty practices of more expensive brands need to be called out more.

[@katierobinson]

@@StarlightPrism oh definitely true haha, but i think you could also counter it with how aware people are of luxury - it’s literally shoved in our face all the time, how are people not questioning it more because of that?

[@StefanTaf]

great point

[@nikitatavernitilitvynova]

I disagree. Most people I know who buy fast fashion do so out of need. Ie we don't have money to spend. The loud minority on line surprisingly is middle class. Because they can afford those giant hauls when most of us can't. And the problem with high end brands is you're paying them premium price for subpar quality. I have some shirts from pull & bear that have outlasted the infamous Tommy Hilfigher shirt I own. It had holes all around the embroidery after being worn for two years pretty consistently. And it's original too. It's honestly baffling how a 45 euro shirt has fallen apart so easily compared to a 4 euro shirt I got on sale. Mind you both made of cotton and the cheaper one is made from thinner cotton.

[@roomofmyown]

@@nikitatavernitilitvynovaTommy Hilfiger isn't luxury

[@aliciatan5878]

Theres a great podcast on hermes by The Acquired and they talk about the consultification of luxury brands. And all the principle of high efficiency etc mentioned in this video line right up with that. Brands stop focusing on the craft and soul of their goods because of this I believe.

[@duck1590]

About the Italian sweatshop scandal - I am Italian, I live in Tuscany. If you tour tourist shops and such you'll find a lot of made in Italy stuff for very cheap, especially beautiful leather goods. Here we all know that they're produced mostly in Prato, mostly by the Chinese community there (this has been going on for at least a decade so things may have changed in the meantime - I am no expert, I just know what literally everyone here has heard at some point). To me the fact that "made in Italy", when associated to non-Italian brands, meant "made by underpaid minorities" made sense intuitively, no one had to tell me. All this to say, I hardly consider this a scandal. I can't say that we knew, because we didn't, but we also sort of did, you know?, and the discovery could have taken way less time than it did.

[@Ellzy1]

Yep, I learned about this a few years ago, just pre-covid, when I was in England. “Made in Italy” before that I imagined was the ultimate in quality.

[@katierobinson]

literally had the same understanding of the made in Italy label, that it was most produced by cheap labour and poor quality materials hiding behind a once prestigious label even as far back as 10 years ago!! luxury having sweatshops is a well known secret and it's insane that fashion keeps trying to frame it as "no one knew"!!

[@glockenrein]

I was imagining that at least European labour laws were being followed.

[@KS-zd4ew]

What happened to Dior is just the tip of the iceberg

[@pablogats4627]

​@@glockenreinno one does anymore, corporations have become greedy and the government looks the other way while we are riddled with hundreds of thousands of low skilled workers every year 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@celinepa8246]

I was shocked to see that almost all dresses in the Armani collection roughly a year ago were made of 100% polyester.

[@katierobinson]

💀 I didn't see this what

[@KS-zd4ew]

Stella M. Is using non animal origin on all her items & recycled materials and the prices aren’t cheap too

[@hazeldavis3176]

LVMH is a cancer to fashion. I only buy from independent or family-owned luxury brands these days. I started buying higher end clothing all those years ago because I want my clothing made well and the people who made it to be paid a fair wage for their craft. Two things that are, apparently, beyond the ability of LVMH. Thank you for the lovely video!

[@jimin8006]

Ironic thing is LVMH does the most marketing. If you’re into celebrity culture they’re impossible to miss, their marketing is suffocating

[@katierobinson]

love that for you! curious if you take the step of researching the brand so you know it's independent / family-owned right before you shop, or do you have a list of brands you only shop from because you know it's the case already?

[@uvwxyzero]

@@katierobinson

[@lllouise9]

Can you share the names of the brands you buy from?

[@joanmartinsrz6362]

@@jimin8006 tell us names, I shop in Ferragamo I still think they have some quality left on them haha

[@jotjotzzz5357]

Burning 🔥 clothes so you can preserve your brand is SO EVIL!!! This should be punished at the full extent!! And this should NOT be Tax Deductible! In fact we should CHARGE THEM PUNITIVE Damages to the environment!!!!

[@katierobinson]

it’s INSANE

[@davidpachecogarcia]

LVMH has gotten its grubby hands into so many brands by acquiring them and cutting costs, reducing quality, raising prices etc. all the bad practices that cut throat business people think are necessary. Vs when owners were the designers and had to actually compete for a customers attention. Now i avoid any brand that isn’t independently owned.

[@katierobinson]

@@davidpachecogarcia honestly it’s crazy how much power they hold over fashion, they have a stake in everything!! the bloomberg article mentioned how many of the issues with loro piana started after they were acquired, particularly issues with paying more for the material 🥲

[@celinepa8246]

It`s always the same result when umbrella companies acquire independently owned companies/brands. Decline in quality, increase in price. That said, I think Chanel is still independent (is it?) yet the same happened to them. Poor quality on a vulgar price tag. Pitty.

[@Latinart]

If you shop at Sephora you support LVMH

[@seekittycat]

Will never buy luxury brands. I remember when people were scoffing at fake luxury items and now it turns out it's made by the same people.

[@fufu2148]

Literally! It’s crazy how these ‘luxury’ items are made in the same warehouses as all the fake goods, no point in giving these already rich companies our money 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@undefinedgirl8974]

Actually, always was. Good designer fakes always were made in the same factories as the real thing.

[@zvezdoblyat]

I remember my sister showing me some review on AliExpress where the buyer was pissed because she had bought a fake luxury bag and was showing how much better the quality was on the fake one compared to the real one she had bought that year. I think the brand was either Hermes or Louis Vuitton

[@lalala4800]

I think I'm just really shocked at the level of audacity of these luxury brands, it's absolutely wild how they get away for the same shady business practices used by fast fashion

[@katierobinson]

literally, and no one bats an eye because shein is right there being loudly unsustainable... luxury meanwhile has perfect the art of quiet exploitation 🥴

[@namchau4719]

a lot of Max Mara coats do not have a lining anymore, thats really cutting away craftsmanship and making the coat colder because a lining holds the warmth better of the wool, but most of all, the coat doesn't fall beautiful like it should have, the clothes underneath rubs against it causing pilling or just not a smooth feeling ...sad. for the same price you get less, even if they say otherwise. Buy only coats with a lining

[@katierobinson]

oooh I'll take a look at the max mara website bc surely not 😮‍💨

[@bubbleofpeace]

Nope. Lining is just a method of finishing the coat.

[@mirabela1344]

​@@bubbleofpeace nope

[@ildia.goldstein513]

orvisit a real tailor and pay for a costume made coat. same price but the coat tailored to your body, the fabric chosen by expert. You win only if you use your brain.

[@liz_violet]

@@ildia.goldstein513 who has the money to get a fully custom coat? Or know a tailor in their area? Or live near a tailor at all!

[@MisterAnonymousOwO]

As much as I enjoy the designs from some of these brands, the fact that the richest man in the world is doing everything to increase his profit margins is truly disgusting I'd much rather just buy vintage designer, at the very least I wouldn't be lining the pockets of someone so corrupt

[@katierobinson]

literally what I would do if I wanted something designer from LVMH, anything to take money from that family lol

[@Arithekiller]

He keeps doing what made his family rich in the first place, these people don’t stop at being billionaires they will do this forever over generations and generations until something stops them

[@mimmikibilly]

It gets even more ridiculous when you think some, if not most, luxury brands want only a specific kind of client in their shops and will pay people to leave peasants out of the shop (maybe they are part of the security, but they definitely do that, too). Like the thing about not disclosing the price, expecting their clients to be able to afford whatever the value is. They want to play being more important than they are.

[@katierobinson]

hate when brands do price on request, it's such a shady practice!!!

[@ChibiSugar]

I can’t stand the weird Hermes minimum purchase requirement. No disrespect, they’re apparently actual good bags but making clients pay 40k in accessories do they can buy a 40k bag??? Or only having 5 bags out available to purchase, playing into your FOMO so you’ll just buy whatever is available even if you don’t like it? It’s so weird that people are falling for it.

[@Quickeeeee]

Polyester lining also makes the garment less breathable and it will retain more smells even after wash. So if buying luxury (without polyester) meant getting let's say a blazer that I'd have to wash less often and that wouldn't smell, that would be a good point for me as a consumer. By them using polyester they're taking that good selling point away, and also making their garment less sustainable, both material wise but also because it will require more frequent washing.

[@ifeyhome]

I found a Diesel jacket in my loft I hadn't worn for around 10 years. I put it in the washing machine as it was still a good fit. Once it dried, I noticed there was a sweat smell in the lining that didn't wash out. I can no longer wear the jacket now or even sell it on a secondhand clothing website!

[@katierobinson]

oh definitely, I hadn't thought of this but I hate the sweat smell that clings to polyester and having that in an expensive garment is insane 😭

[@katierobinson]

anyone know how to get this smell out??? throwing away a vintage diesel jacket is such a crime 😭

[@zeuseden3805]

The tip I've heard is to use a detergent for active wear, as it is specifically designed for poly fabrics.

[@undefinedgirl8974]

Use a shotglass of white vinegar instead of fabric softener. That should remove the scent

[@lunatheleo]

Thank you for talking about this! I’ve been saying it for years. It’s peak hypocrisy how everyone bashes fast fashion but luxury brands continue going unchecked in all their violations and bad practises.

[@katierobinson]

@@lunatheleo literally EVERYONE needs to be doing better 🥴

[@MariaMariaDantas]

Here’s what I’ve been doing lately to avoid all this nonsense of cheap materials, exploitive work and absurd prices: I’ve found a good tailor in my town, where I can pick the materials, chose the exact style I want and have it made to my perfect size. It’s definitely more expensive than off the rack, but these are pieces I intend to wear for a life time. I much rather support my tailor locally than to give my hard earned money to these luxury brands or fast fashion.

[@katierobinson]

love this for you!! honestly a cost-benefit analysis would probably show that it's cheaper in the long run

[@JishinimaTidehoshi]

yeah but where does the tailor get the fabrics??

[@shaemus3383]

@@JishinimaTidehoshieven then at least they’ll be able to have 100% cotton clothing.

[@Yougotthis1212]

They SHOULD be making fake fur with silk and I absolutely despise polyester lining. They are ridiculous. There is very little difference between Fast-Fashion and luxury brands.

[@mimmikibilly]

There are plenty of unused fur coats in my country, because they were owned by old ladies. They could use those. I'm vegan, but I like the 2000s fur look and real fur probably is less hurtful to the planet, so I try to avoid fake fur like the plague. I only have fake mohair inside a denim jacket, but that jacket is going to last a lifetime. I just get it second hand, like leather. I don't like the look and durability of PU leather either, so second hand is the way.

[@Viviano_Magami]

They could use shag fabric and sherpa fleece from cotton or wool to mimic the real fur without having to skinning the animal.

[@katierobinson]

agree that we should have alternatives to real fur (or ppl should only shop vintage) but that could come from alternatives to polyester - it would be more expensive, but maybe then it would warrant that price tag 🥴

[@seanyeo5514]

If these high-tech mills can make the most realistic faux fur from polyester, it stands to reason that the Developers can easily stretch to switching out the fibre content with just about anything else if they so choose. I only think they don’t do it because think about It, to achieve that level of pile essentially means a square metre faux fur made out of silk would be equivalent in material to easily ten plain-woven silks - which to be honest would then justify the ridiculous cost of most luxury faux fur coats. But of course we know the objective of these companies is large profit margins over true luxury. Personally I always thought the fur issue already had a solution in the luxury teddy bear market - Steiff uses Schulte mohair for its bears and it is a gorgeous, tactile naturally-derived textile, which I’m sure can be tweaked by the manufacturer for length/texture etc.

[@ifeyhome]

Sweat & a polyester lining is a bio hazard ☣️

[@euypraxia]

I use to work in Louis Vuitton, and the mark up regarding their clothes is insane. If you see how the pieces are stored in the back of house, it is literally no different to what you'd expect from any upmarket clothing store in a mall. More so, we get WAY more commission (as a % of sales) from clothing when compared to other pieces we sell such as bags. And the main reason is that for these luxury brands clothes are most profitable. So yeah, there's literally no justification whatsoever for these prices other than $$$$$$$$$

[@katierobinson]

oooh I had no idea about employees getting more commissions from sales??? makes sense but also crazy!

[@aussieintheuk]

Former LV SA from London here: I can attest to that! The bags essentially 'sell' themselves and RTW is generally harder to shift so hence commission was more on clothing than Leather Goods (at least when I was there). And yep, the way the clothes were stored back-of-house was no different than H&M (shoved on racks in plastic: it is the way it is presented on the shop floor that adds 'value')

[@eniola5088]

I mean they have been saying for ages these bait luxury fashion brands like prada, LV… aren’t luxury. Paying triple digits for polyester ain’t it smhhhh

[@katierobinson]

honestly idk how some people justify it, are you not checking the materials before dropping thousands on designer??

[@davidpachecogarcia]

Luxury fashion and fast fashion have done an excellent job in marketing to even people who aren’t interested in fashion. Most people only know of brands like Shien, Temu, H&M, Zara, LV, Gucci, Dior etc. there’s sooooo many more players in fashion. Polyester has its uses, look at Issey Miyakes line. Only polyester could achieve what the designers want. Or even athletic wear. However, brands just see it as a way cheaper and more readily available material than cotton. It boils down to cutting down cost to maximize profits. One area that is also not discussed is that architecture is a very emissions heavy venture like opening up x amount of stores year over year.

[@katierobinson]

@@davidpachecogarcia love your thoughts on this!! agree that sometimes polyester is actually the best option, wish brands would see it as a tool to be used only when needed rather than a cost-cutter or corner cutter!

[@katierobinson]

and yes didn’t even think of the emissions created from opening stores, not to mention the way luxury drives fashion month and all the impact that has 3/4 times a year every year

[@Ellzy1]

Issey Miyakes “Pleats Please” line is polyester because it’s the only fabric that can be manipulated into those amazing pleats. I would love one of those outfits, it would be the only polyester in my closet. However, now that I’m a standard size u.s. 8-10 (vintage 12-14) I can buy second hand quality clothing. My closet is full of wool, cashmere, suede, leather, silk, linen and cotton, 95% thrifted. Something I was never able to do when I was a u.s. size 18-20. An easy, probably over simplified guide to not buying fast fashion is, don’t shop at a mall. My local mall has 170 shops. Out of those that are clothing stores, Nordstrom might be the only one that carries a few sustainable brands. Maybe.

[@katierobinson]

yesssss I was thinking of this line when I was talking about polyester, obvs it has a time and a place where it's the only option available but brands need to see it as less of a crutch for reducing prices 😭

[@QuirkyGirl10]

That last point you made about people focusing their ire on fast fashion brands instead of the industry as a whole was right on point. To me that was the biggest takeaway. Thank you for your tireless work and dedication calling out the fashion industry and its abuses👍🏻

[@katierobinson]

glad you enjoyed the video! tysm for watching 🫶

[@justanothergirl225-l7u]

sorry but i’m going to buy a genuine leather product that will last 30 years vs a “vegan” leather made out of plastic that will break down in under 5 years…

[@kathleensmith644]

I agree pretend leather is awful

[@HunnyBee-w7r]

Agreeded, but I buy used full grain leather goods. Not hard to find at good prices.

[@luluamu]

Absolutely agree! If only every person buying leather thought like this, buying for it to last a lifetime instead of consumerism, the deforestation wouldn’t be the problem that it is

[@ellealine4159]

I understand this thought as it used to be one of my own but... what you are talking about is artificial leather, made out of plastic. That often isn't even vegan at all. There are actual vegan leathers made out of organic substances and they are actual quality products, unlike artifical leather 😊

[@bunny-oi3il]

Fashion Roadman has made similar videos regarding "luxury" brands and he often quotes a book you'd probably be interested in, if you haven't already read or heard about it. How Luxury Lost It's Lustre ,is the title of the book I've forgotten the author.

[@katierobinson]

oooh will try check this out and his channel, thanks!!

[@Cantseemuch]

Earlier today I saw a video on the new inside out Louis Vuitton neverfull. And it made me think. Luxury fashion is speeding up and jumping on the following trends train, which in my opinion is another thing that lowers them to the level of fast fashion. And I think it hurts the luxury image more than these brands know so far.

[@katierobinson]

@@Cantseemuch honestly it’s crazy the lengths they go to to protect their image (burning merch, being careful about who can buy etc) but don’t see jumping on fast fashion trends as harmful?? doesn’t make sense to me

[@flohough1870]

Agree completely. And to make matters worse, they are just rehashing the same stuff over, bringing back old designs and maybe changing one or two things but charging way more than it was originally. Uncreative plus tells me they aren't willing to even spend money on new designs! Just raking in the money. Ugh.

[@Latinart]

I worked for LVMH in the early 2000 at Sephora. They broke labor law after labor law. I just quit it was an awful place to work at.

[@katierobinson]

Made in the USA info from @flohough1870 So, in a nutshell, Saipan is a US territory and in the 1990s, items with a "Made In USA" were a big deal here. Someone realized that you could manufacture items in Saipan and still stick that label on the products. It opened the door for an epic tale of extortion and human tragedy. Workers were lured with false stories of riches, close proximity to Hollywood (haha) and other awful lies, only to be threatened with their lives or the lives of their families back home if they tried to leave or told the truth to anyone. There were a lot of major brands involved and while they can try and claim they didn't know, only one that I am aware of, Levi Strauss, actually cancelled their contracts with the manufacturers and the rest just made excuses. Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Nike and many others were on the list. It turned into a real mess for the US Government and of course, many corrupt politicians were turning a blind eye to the situation. I first became aware of it when a pair of British journalists went there and did a documentary about it. I wish I could find that documentary again, it was very interesting and eye opening. Perhaps the most disturbing part about it was when they interviewed a group of female workers who were making sweatshirts for Ralph Lauren. They were asked what they were paid per hour which was a pittance. Then they told them how much these sweatshirts were selling for. It was awful, they had literally no idea that they were being paid next to nothing in comparison. Here are some links to articles about it. There is a video out there but you have to buy it in order to view it unfortunately, I haven't been able to find anywhere that it's uploaded to the internet. This whole operation has since been shut down, but I'm sure it's just moved to other locations in the world, doing the exact same thing it was there--exploiting workers. The worse part of the story is that very little of this ever hit the American press. The majority of Americans are unaware this even went on, I probably wouldn't even know had I not watched that documentary! 🔗LINKS: msmagazine.com/2019/07/15/paradise-lost/ www.nytimes.com/1993/07/18/world/made-usa-hard-labor-pacific-island-special-report-saipan-sweatshops-are-no.html#:~:text=And%20while%20many%20of%20these%20garments%20are,flag%20flies%20over%20several%20of%20the%20factories. www.npr.org/2006/05/16/5408446/sweatshops-in-u-s-territory#:~:text=While%20the%20Northern%20Marianas%20Islands,made%20in%20the%20USA%22%20label.

[@flohough1870]

As the saying goes, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Unfortunately people have short memories too. Will LVMH come out of this okay? Only time will tell, but it has ruined all of their brands for me. After I sent you that information, I couldn't help but think that someone has managed to "get rid" of the documentary I saw because it was a perceived threat down the road.

[@yeahweburnstuff]

I've recently learned that brands like Temu are able to be so cheap because they exploit a customs loop hole where they DON'T pay taxes at all. So on top of all the other exploitation they also put unfair pressure on ALL the other legitimate businesses in the customers own country. Ultimately putting small business and factory workers out of jobs.

[@flohough1870]

@@yeahweburnstuff What's even more frustrating about that--we know that other companies would do the same if given the opportunity as well. They are only conscientious because they are forced to be.

[@katierobinson]

@@flohough1870the fact they could make it disappear is so telling of the level of power working behind the scenes of this scandal 🥲

[@katierobinson]

@@yeahweburnstuffthankfully this is coming to an end soon, most countries are tightening the de minimus loophole, but yeah it’s crazy they’ve been getting away with it for so long!

[@MikuHatsune159]

it was luxury by actual definition at inception and made custom to each person ordering, every stitch being hand-crafted and was not owned by many, but that's long been gone. the real allure of luxury now is just status symbol and having spent way too much money on overpriced goods, if you have that much to spend to begin with...especially becoming how to churn more out for easy quick profit rather than the quality/rarity it once stood for.

[@katierobinson]

definitely!! if those brands were still doing custom pieces and tailoring and paying artisans for their work then the price tag would be an accurate reflection 💀

[@teknosbeka]

Sustainably made clothes *are* more expensive, but that does not imply that all expensive clothes are more sustainable. Sometimes people call brands “luxury brands” purely because they are more expensive. I am not talking about lvmh brands. What I am trying to say is that sustainable clothes *will* come at a higher price ( if they are new ) and we have to accept that. If someone can’t afford it that’s ok, it was a thing for all our history. We can buy used clothes, make our own, repair what we have or simply have smaller wardrobes.

[@nae4830]

Finally! Exactly! And that is BS. Thing is, if it keeps selling, and people don't care, then how is this solved?

[@katierobinson]

legislation most likely, plus public awareness does sometimes have an impact - not saying the top luxury consumers will suddenly grow a conscience and speak out but the anti-shein group could make their voices heard!!

[@tyresemaxey8050]

Luxury fashion enthusiasts have made it possible for this to happen, because whenever someone tries to scrutinize the price of anything high fashion they'll get told "you can't put a price on creativity", while that may be true i definitely feel like luxury fashion brands use this notion to charge over-inflated prices because they know they'll get no criticism. Unrelated but maybe this is what Demna has been saying through his collections all along

[@katierobinson]

exactly it's like are you paying for creativity or a name on a label and the status symbol that comes with it??

[@literolina]

It’s sad that trust almost zero clothing brands today and I try to buy vintage clothing from before the 2000s because almost nothing today has natural fibers

[@katierobinson]

honestly the lack of natural fibres in collections these days is criminal 💀

[@ailisha4145]

I will never buy a polyester item for hundreds of dollars… it‘s questionable how much longer „luxury“ brands are getting away with this.

[@snakysalamander]

I make my own clothes and the difference in using silk, wool, cotton and linen vs synthetics is actually not that huge. They'd spend an extra £10-£20 a meter which is nothing for brands charging thousands. They could easily pass that cost onto the obviously monied customer. But they don't care about quality anymore. Polyester lining is shocking. Even if they don't use silk, viscose is a much better option as it breathes more.

[@kathleensmith644]

Viscose is horrible stuff, I would never buy or wear it.

[@user-gr7jo9qb3l]

I'm so disappointed that Brooks Bros, Ralph Lauren, Cos, etc. are now 20-50% polyester :( I bought fr a bespoke Scottish brand that has 100% new wool cert standards, made in Portugal for the same price

[@katierobinson]

it's so deceptive because you really would associate a higher price with quality!! gotta be prepared to research for a while if you actually want something nice 😮‍💨

[@nabilaxu]

I keep seeing the recent hype and rise of loro piana on my feed. So interesting that this article was featured on Bloomberg yet no one seems to be batting an eyelid. I will see them very differently now…

[@katierobinson]

feel like it's become mainstream since succession and also the people shopping there have little interest in things as trivial as unethical labour

[@kora861]

A brand does A LOT for an item and it’s seen time and time again in every industry. We always make fun of off brand cereals vs the Kelloggs counterpart, but it’s the same sugary nonsense. If you asked for Tylenol and I hand you acetaminophen, you’d probably think it’s not gonna work as well. If you got a SHEIN sweatsuit that replicates the Nike one, you get ridiculed for supporting fast fashion when I bet you the same person made both garments. It’s been, and will always be about status and the never ending battle for the moral high ground.

[@katierobinson]

I feel like dupe culture has gotten rid of a lot of that stigma, however 🙂‍↕️

[@katch2511]

Love your content! Great points. I think we as consumers must educate ourselves on how to understand if a product is truly well made and worth the money. Not only checking the material label, but checking the lining and the stitching must become a staple practice! Almost every luxury brand is using polyester nowadays, which is unacceptable and I truly believe that in the long run this is a terrible practice both environmentally and business wise. It’s truly shocking to see just how greedy those luxury brands got over the years. This is the main reason that I gravitate more and more to mid-luxury priced brands, that still value quality and sustainability.

[@katierobinson]

yes!!! so much of this comes down to us as consumers not recognising what quality looks or feels like, which is hardly our fault when fashion has flooded the market with polyester but it just means we have to educate ourselves!

[@jimin8006]

Really appreciate the video. Especially since the quality of luxury brands like LV and Chanel whose quality have gone downhill. But prices have gone up

[@katierobinson]

tysm for watching!

[@barbb1672]

This video is a great piece of journalism with top notch presentation. I am definitely here for series of this kind!

[@katierobinson]

aww tysm! 😭

[@ansa2197]

Ever since I learned about fashion in the pandemic, I learned how the big brands are the real villains and that kind of disappoints me. Then I boycotted lots of western fashion brands for the solidarity with Palestine and turn to my own Southeast Asian brands when it comes to clothing or I go to a local tailor when it comes to like traditional clothing and formal wear. I am glad that people are becoming aware of how the big brands in the industry are the real villains thanks to knowing about their connection to our ruined environment and them funding a gside. It is a little win and I hope that people become more aware of the harm they've done. I still love fashion but now I'm more conscious about the consumerism nature and attitudes I have to put out towards it. Your video essay was insightful and have shwon me a few more information that I haven't known yet 🙏

[@Nyakairu.K]

The whole point of luxury was looking to buy pieces that had a "wow" factor or were considered as an investment and that have been destroyed. People are learning that they are being scammed and are taking actions to change that by using their money wisely. It will be a slow change but it will be steady.

[@katierobinson]

agreed!! let's hope change comes soon 😮‍💨

[@angelicalisa]

so sad when you look at a dress for 300 bucks from a lux brand and then it's polyester really why. Meanwhile small brands like my blancheolia is dying because people don't want to pay the price for made in Europe and 100% cotton when it's just a small brand. And ads are not affordable anymore because it's oversaturated from the big brands.

[@EditioCastigata]

So I googled that brand you covet. Switzerland, interesting. The homepage kinda hides message below the fold, and I was initially not aware I had to click on the video to see the entire collection. Dates don’t match with what’s on “about us” and some more minor flaws that signals in my industry lack of attention. But I guess market visibility is where it’s at. (The sold-out pants look super nice! I shot the link to my sister.)

[@ES-qm5hr]

It's been about 30 years since luxury fashion brands actually used high quality materials and produced in low volumes. I assume most of their consumers would not even know the difference because they have never known anything else. There is a serious lack of knowledge on the consumers side about what makes clothes good quality, so they prop up these companies poor products by still buying them. Being European, but living in Asia, you notice that these brands market to foreign and young consumers who are basically suckered in by marketing rather than making educated choices. I was having a conversation with my girlfriend about this. She was trying to tell her friends travelling to Paris to look into less well known, but better quality clothing brands, but it was to no avail, all they wanted to buy was LV, Celine, Balmain, etc. She was totally frustrated by the fact they wanted to overpay for such poor quality products.

[@EditioCastigata]

They sure have normative power over the il-informed. In defense of the latter, it’s not possible to make a deep-dive on every industry you buy from. In the industry I currently work (German luxury cars), we senior engineers rarely compromise. Without the need to learn about the field, as outsider you’d watch whether technical staff and engineers have conflicts, and whether staff is leaving the enterprise. If that’s not the case, quality likely as expected, else be vigilant.

[@ES-qm5hr]

@@EditioCastigata I think management definitely as a lot to do with quality dropping. No designer, or engineer wants to put out an inferior product. So, you're right if you see talented people leave a company, it is a sign that the management are deliberately sacrificing quality for profits.

[@Justcetriyaart]

Small batch, business, slower production, less drops and pinger time lines. And that's for mire than fashion. I'm really over hyper production for production sake.

[@katierobinson]

honestly it could be so much easier if everyone wasn't obsessed with beating profits!!

[@krisbreeze6324]

I would totally pay more for higher quality, longer lasting items, however, luxury items are now massed produced and quality has gone severely downhill and they’re not ethical like they want us to think they are. Now i buy vintage everything pretty much, The quality is better and i feel better about it.

[@katierobinson]

@@krisbreeze6324agree - higher price tags for a name only, at least with secondhand you’re not funding a corrupt billionaire 🥲

[@sparklie962]

The other slippery slope is all the egregious blends that brands are bringing out - when the *only* reason to do so is to cheapen the fabric. E.g., there's no advantage for the consumer when their winter wool coat is 30% nylon/poly/acrylic. This just ensures that it will get pilly and grimy in a season - while keeping you less warm/dry than 100% good quality wool would have. If they use the appropriate type of wool for the specific type of garment - e.g., NOT from super soft/short fibres there's just no need to blend for "durability." I'm not kidding myself that producing cotton, silk or wool is super kind to the planet - but at least if it's the right fibre for the garment you'll wind up with a garment that's fit for the purpose. It will wash, wear and endure the way you expect, e.g., 100% cotton jeans that last 25 years, that gorgeous shetland wool cardi your gramma is still wearing etc etc.

[@katierobinson]

agreed, it’s just disheartening for the consumer that they have to have a worse quality garment for the same price, but now with poly 🤠

[@enayetrashid9566]

Thanks for giving us the updates which we needed the most. Shout out to you for putting a comprehensive video about sustainable fashion Katie!!

[@katierobinson]

aw tysm for watching!! 🫶

[@simply_geri]

i'm just thankful i was never a slave for brands, i'm more of i buy what is good quality.

[@ethan2k297]

having “trend cycles” be on the same level as deforestation is a pretty brain dead take to me

[@AzerieAlien]

Luxury should actually reflect the quality of a product, the design, the craftsmanship, and the materials. It´s like more and more luxury fashion isn’t about the love for the craft anymore. Instead, it seems like a lot of brands are also just exploiting workers and charging crazy prices for stuff even made from synthetic fibers like nylon or polyester. It’s kind of ridiculous to make people believe that a garment made by cheap labor, with no special design and low-quality materials, can carry an elitist, unrealistic price tag. The costs should actually match the materials and production value, but it’s like high end companies are also just driven by greed and this never-ending hunger for status and profit. It’s crazy that the industry’s structures are so stuck in neo-colonial, exploitative systems on top of that the massive destruction of the environment.

[@katierobinson]

this!!!!

[@EditioCastigata]

‘Luxury’ as we understand it these days has several criteria to be met. Unfortunately many limit themselves and the term to “desirable by my in-group, and exclusionary (price, imitators).”

[@MichelleGarres]

And the beauty of those brands as you mentioned Burberry, when we search in Vinted trying to be more concious about waste .. well traditional brands regardless of when they produce the goods .. they still look great and remain with great quality.

[@succmoipp1362]

i've also seen multiple luxury brands marketing their completely or mostly machine knit garments as crochet in the last years. it's pathetic coming from brands held in such high esteem.

[@sciagurrato1831]

To call out the greed, tawdriness and inhumanity of the top luxury brands is admirable - respect to you. Subscribed.

[@ferromero2838]

I am a textile designer and the conversation about cotton being more sustainable or better than poliéster has always annoyed me, there are high quality poliéster and low quality poliéster, poliéster is a synthetic fabric that was meant to elongate a garment lifespan, cotton is a natural fiber which will be easier to lose its form and will not be better for a raincoat, the cotton crops require many gallons of water and very harmful pesticides for humans and for our world so saying that it is a better option is not an accurate thing to say. The blending of natural and synthetic fibers is needed for a better feel and durability of the garment of course there should already be ecological alternatives that are good for the environment, but as you already explained in the video, it is not convenient for the fashion industry.

[@hermenegildakociubinska6665]

I can buy that synthetic materials may improve durability or be somehow produced with less environmental impact than cotton, but improving the feel? Come on!

[@gefelice]

At this point I have no idea where to buy clothes or fabric anymore 😭

[@katierobinson]

secondhand, small businesses and still from your favourite brands - but only if you truly need it and love it for your forever wardrobe!!!! (I have a whole series on personal style that helps with these steps called 'building a sustainable wardrobe' xx) consumers can make thoughtful purchases but we can't do much apart from publicly pressure brands, it's governments and legislation that will force them to slow down. all we can do is stop playing brands' game of mindless consumption and use our wallet power to make it clear we want better or we're not buying!

[@hannahwortmann2786]

Instead of looking for particular pieces of clothing, I always search for the fabric.

[@piccalillipit9211]

*THE THING IS - ITS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE* Europe has very little to offer the world except luxury brands and cars - this would not be a problem 1.4 billion Chinese want them But they dont want cheap products made by exploited labour they could buy in the local market. They are buying the QUALITY and everything that indicates. EU cars are now total cr4p, I know Ive driven S Class Mercedes since 1989 and the last one was so bas [2012 coupe] I GAVE IT AWAY. The car companies have pee'd their reputation down the drain - lux fashion is following

[@EditioCastigata]

fyi: Cars are made in “generations.” We identify the people working on it by those “generations” as well, like the current “gen 5” (further divided into “adas gen 5”, “idc gen 5” (which would be Bosch, but I digress)). Once it’s done they mostly jump generations and take care of upcoming “gen N” (like, gen 7 or gen 8). There’s an amount of cyclicity to quality design and engineering (manufacturing less so, since that’s independent).

[@denb7150]

Thank you for this informative video! What just really bothers me is that I’ve had so many bad experiences with sustainable brands and especially the fabric deteriorated very quickly! Whereas I have old fast fashion items that are in much better condition and I’ve had them for 5+ years. Of course their quality has declined a lot over the years but it’s just so disappointing that fair fashion doesn’t seem to last any longer than the cheap and unethical alternative. And they were such popular and hyped brands too! I mostly rely on second hand clothing now but I find that thrift stores carry less and less quality items unfortunately 😢

[@Marina-vd]

Thank you so much for speaking up about this topic! This deserves a million views

[@aslik.8102]

This whole polyester garbage is the reason I started shopping shirts and pullovers in the mens departement. Went to a store to freshen up my summer wardrope. Everything was polyester and they wanted like 40-50 Euros for a piece. Mens side I found linen and cotom shirts for 15-20 Euros a piece. It is ridicilous.😅

[@EditioCastigata]

Just watch out or you’ll end up with a husband - and how sustainable is it to farm his wardrobe? 🙂

[@aslik.8102]

@EditioCastigata depends if I have to fill up his wardrobe again after harvesting his stuff😂

[@MiraBoo]

If luxury brands are going to use cheaper materials to cut on costs, those savings should be reflected in lower prices. Otherwise, they can eff all the way off. Brand names only have value and prestige from exclusivity _AND_ maintaining an exceptional reputation. Such a reputation is only achieved via reliably producing high-quality products. If they can’t do that, they shouldn't be called luxury. What they should be called is _TRASH._ And quite frankly, wealthy people should know better. They shouldn’t _want_ to invest in Trash. It's an embarrassing look that reeks of credulity.

[@heather2185]

PREACH! Well said girl! It’s a cultural change that’s going to make the difference. First, I think, we need to leverage the age of almost no rules when it comes to clothing, we can wear whatever we want, when it comes to free time fashion and self expression and we’re obsessed with individuality. So, i think it’s totally possible to move away from the general idea of trends, foster appreciation and exploration of our own styles and really get to know them. Get over the need for clothing to be cheap and disposable (because you’re going to hate it next week because you never really liked it in the first place) and more of quality pieces that can be taken care of and worn over and over again. I could go on…

[@ailisha4145]

luxury fast fashion is such a good word, never thought I would need this in my vocabulary

[@lolno6975]

My problem with Luxury fashion is that its gotten a little too much and theyre clearly a little too desperate Almost every luxury fashion brand operates at a loss. I mean, Burberry is literally going to collapse in February as theyre 300m in bond debts for February 2025 and another 300m in bond debts for February 2030, and Burberry is a monolith in luxury fashion Luxury fashion brands are scared, and dont want to fall. Thats where i feel all of this comes from. People cant afford it as much because of a higher cost of living and lower wages, reducing their already stringent customer base And this translates to all of these problems. They cut corners to make money, but it harms them in the long run. Luckily, its not every fashion house. Brand such as Maison Margiela, Rick Owens, The Row are all, although painfully expensive, still upholding their original theologies (is that the right word? It feels right), where the fashion comes first, and the best way to see this is this is in their runway shows, which is such a simple thing but it speaks volumes Im a massive Balenciaga and Vetements fan, so seeing this firsthand has been painful. Seeing Vetements abandon their original philosophy to chase money because they immediately lost money the nanosecond Demna left, and seeing Balenciaga use just straight up worse material that doesnt align with their memo, which is most obvious in the Balenci Strike boots in Leather vs Canvas. The leather is straight up shit and cracks immediately, whereas the canvas literally is considered a grail because of how good they are. And have a wild guess which one is available on the Balenciaga website in black, Balenciagas signature colour? Now, how can we fix this? Simple. Go bacm to the roots. Create clothing to order. Its such a simple change but it does wonders. Look at Chrome Hearts, specifically their leather and silver. Obviously you dont get to that level without being Gods in that field, but they can, and very easily. Its got to the point where bo one actually cares about new stuff, i mean look at the Raf Simons 01-04 collections, which are some of the most expensive clothes ever due to their philosophy bleeding into the clothes itself. Innovattion is gone and it needs to come back, stop releasing every season, or just take some pride in it, becauseit feels like they're forgetting what they are. Theyre parts of history, but dont act like it

[@winolalobo2424]

I work in luxury fashion and I can say for certain that those who actually make and design those "beautiful" pieces aren't rewarded. It's the big conglomerates who now have gobbled up 70-80% of the industry. Seasonal collections are no longer creative (save for the few) but they cannot afford the huge PR machines that operate for the big 3 companies - LVMH, Kering, and Richemont. Homegrown brands are better sometimes. But again, I urge more people to read tags and look into the factories that these pieces come out of. Made in Italy/France is a myth sometimes. If the prices are too high or too low, some executive is buying a mansion in a tax haven. 😂

[@missbizzy]

On point, thanks for your honesty 😊😂

[@mariabarraza5748]

Thank you for bringing awareness to this. You inspire me to approach fashion in a more sustainable way!

[@katierobinson]

awww i’m so happy to hear!!! thank u sm for watching 🫶

[@cheslxy]

Chanel or other luxury goods cost $50 to $200 to make . I think the street vendors might be selling the one made from the same factory 😅

[@dianexoxo8]

Finally someone who talks about this, I have been saying the same thing for a long time but no one listened, this world is fed up nowadays everything is so mass produced not just in fashion…even if you want to invest your money in something of good quality is so rare to find is disappointing but we can make a change by donating not throwing our clothes and only buy what we need regardless of being fast fashion, cheap or expensive because following those trends is wasteful

[@aycaiix]

I'm so tired of humans not doing what's right. Like...

[@katierobinson]

@@aycaiix literally same

[@lz738]

I wish more people would see this video and know these facts. I know so many people who are always slamming on buying Shein but then turn around and buy from The Gap or Victoria's Secret or Free People. They're literally the same, except that the non-Shein companies have larger mark-ups and cost the consumer more.

[@katierobinson]

shein definitely has its own issues - including the fact they're making more than any other brand and creating more emissions - but it's not like the rest of the fashion industry aren't complicit 😭

[@stefanjulianmorejon4088]

Loved this video, we sure have to consider what’s actual luxury and what substance does that entails, cheers from Ecuador :)

[@katierobinson]

definitely!

[@ametsuriyuzen3167]

Honestly this doesn’t shock me, I’m glad I’m too broke to purchase anything from a luxury brand lol.

[@katierobinson]

surely no one can claim to be shocked when these scandals have been in the headlines for years 😭 everyone's just been turning a blind eye

[@moony1552]

I really want for everyone to realise this. Thank you for making this video!

[@altaroberts5105]

I stopped buying magazines decades ago 100% because they are 90% advertising. If print media is declining, it's because of that.

[@alysham4n4l0]

It literally irritates me why we sell literal petroleum based products for the same as cotton or even silk. Stupid I say.

[@KA-ky9nb]

I can’t remember the last time I walked into any clothes shop and bought an item of clothing brand new. I go on eBay and Vinted and charity shops and get all my wardrobe essentials from there !

[@LRWdesign]

Ugh 🤦‍♀ Quality is a joke in many mid level and luxury brands. Doesn’t matter if it’s construction, fabric, notions …. It’s sad. I have some clothes in my wardrobe I’ve worn for over 30 years - classic and well made with quality materials. I take care of my clothes properly and they last. I buy secondhand because it’s more affordable and I can pick my fabrics and know the construction of certain brands. Luxury items for me are very rarely bought and even those are secondhand - such as a Temperley London dress. I don’t buy luxury bags, not interested in them. 🤷‍♀

[@yygg9786]

they shouldnt be burning or destroying their unsold items. its so bad for earth!

[@ficoyff9545]

This is a great video! Perfect amount of Detail as a casual enjoyer of this industry with a decent amount of knowledge this was eye opening. Good job Katie

[@probably_not_jim]

My favorite coat right now is 100% wool. My sister found it in a thrift store for $30, and I ripped out the acetate lining and replaced it with about $40 of silk. I was looking for a wool coat for ages and couldn't find anything in my budget that wasn't a blend lined with polyester. It's so frustrating trying to shop without wasting money on expensive, low quality garbage.

[@SparrowTeaDragon]

Only $1 million. The corrupt greed has me seething

[@lizziesstudio]

omg firsttt, been waiting for a new video :))

[@katierobinson]

this was so fast wtf 😅 I've been bodied by a cold for a week so haven't been uploading but I have so many plans for new videos!!!

[@ishathakor]

i'm honestly so exhausted at this point of repeatedly watching people pretend to be shocked at these scandals as if we don't already know this stuff. like we already know. now we have to hold them accountable. we have to harass the ceo of lvmh until he can't take it anymore and decides to actually treat his employees as people. luxury brands do not actually use the best materials and best craftspeople most of the time. if you want quality you have to find small brands with transparent supply chains. i'm indian and we would go directly to the source as much as possible when getting clothes for special occasions. as in, we would go to a market where fabric sellers have set up shop, and then we would buy the amount of fabric required to make whatever clothes we needed (my parents knew how much would be needed and if they didn't we would have a consultation with the tailor before hand so we knew how much to buy). then we would take our fabric to a different shop that offered dyeing services and ask for the colour we wanted. then we would collect our fabric and take it to the tailor (we had the same one for years until he closed up shop, i think he retired). with the tailor we would describe exactly what we wanted and we basically had unlimited customization options (as long as we had enough fabric). and then we would wait a few weeks, have a few fittings, and basically have the perfect garment. we only did this once a year for diwali at most because it's more involved and more expensive than going to the store or online and just buying something ready to wear. but i feel this is what real luxury is. if i could afford any of these luxury brands, i would not buy from them. i would rather put that money into going to a small independent tailor or leatherworker or something and get something custom exactly as i want it from someone highly skilled who could take the time to make something really high quality. all my clothes i've had made like this are basically family heirlooms now. the ones i can still fit into are mine and the ones i grew out of have been passed onto my younger cousins because they're just such quality work that it would literally be insane to throw them away. another huge benefit of having clothes made this way is being able to ask for larger seam allowances so that you can have it altered if you gain some weight. dior and hermes and whatever else are garbage compared to this experience.

[@EditioCastigata]

Yes! That’s why I would love if we moved away from calling LVMH and Co. ‘luxury.’

[@spaghettiking7312]

Real luxury is not a brand; luxury is quality.

[@bhelliom3]

I started buying exclusively secondhand or “ethically” (subjective definition) about 10 years ago and I’ll never forget when I went to the mall with my grandma for the first time in years, looked at the hem of a $300 dress and saw it was already falling apart.

[@Mia-pr9cd]

That mirror is killing me

[@beep-g5n]

hi katie, i love your videos & i think your commentary is always really thoughtful. i just wanted to say that luxury fashion brands using an alternative to silk might actually not be the worst option - silk is rated as the most environmentally damaging material to produce by the higg index (because of its extremely high water consumption, 5-10 times as much as polyester!). afaik there are projects trying to make silk production more sustainable and less water-consuming, so ideally luxury fashion houses would either invest in those or try to use materials that have a similar texture but use less water and have less of an environmental impact… if anyone knows of places already doing this, i would love to hear about it!!

[@katierobinson]

tysm!! I'm not an expert on silk so thanks for pointing this out! I had a look at Good On You and Common Objective (websites I trust more than just relying on the Higg Index which you may be aware had some controversy over how it rates the sustainability of materials) and you're right, the sustainability of silk can be dubious!!! I also think there are certain methods to make it more environmentally friendly, like using organic practices. It seems a common alternative is organic-certified silk, or wild silk (where the moths have abandoned the cocoons) Would also be super excited to hear of alternative materials that are being developed - Good on You has an article on some here: goodonyou.eco/ethical-silk-alternatives/

[@beep-g5n]

@@katierobinson nice, thanks so much for this article! and i didn't know that about the controversies surrounding the higg index, will keep in mind in future :)

[@sandraankenbrand]

I got my Burberry Trenchcoat in 1993... They did Aftercare Service for me in 2023 - 30yrs later: destitched, dry-cleaned, ne pocket lining, impregnated it, stitched together, new buckles and buttons

[@EditioCastigata]

Is this always guaranteed and possible?

[@888bjxjs888]

Keep exposing them!

[@katierobinson]

@@888bjxjs888 👀🤠

[@niccoatze]

Thanks for making these videos! Hopefully, they help people make better choices. We must remember that we hold the money, and it’s up to us to choose wisely who we give it to. As customers, we have the power to create change. If we keep waiting for big companies or governments to take action, we might be in trouble-and it could be too late

[@katierobinson]

definitely - purchasing power is so important!!!

[@AlixFiori]

I love this type of videos where fashion is exposed for being nothing more than a fancy name and zero quality.

[@AndradaBalteanu]

This is so well put

[@nadlena]

Inaccuracies: 1. Loro Piana does pay to the workers via the local interim. Its them who is not distributing the money. 2. Burberry coats of 100 % cotton are long gone. 50/50 polyester and cotton is the most common you can find on the resale platforms at least.

[@fatesteyneit2990]

the difference between those luxury brand is that they push fashion forward in a sense.. they’re the ones who make the trends etc.. and cheap knockoffs such as Shein, H&M or Zara just copy and mass produce them.. its never a good thing to defend fast fashion brands no matter how much they’re paying you

[@ansq9203]

Miu Miu also doesn’t have a animal welfare policy… aka they can lie all they want about the source of their fur and materials 🎀

[@gondolin12]

I learned to sew. I started ordering hand knits from quality yarn. I am deliberately and systematically purging my wardrobe item by item. I live in Turkiye and local made items are much more affordable and more quality than “luxury” brands.

[@bufsum]

Thank god im not the only one to notice it, some big brands are actually just making their bags and shoes and all the clothing is just made same as SHEIN and shit

[@taurinal]

About leather - when we eat cows and waste leather? Not use it producing bags and shoes. That does not seem good.

[@ethan2k297]

your take on miu miu is literally so dumb i’m sorry 😭 if you think miuccia is watching your obscure tiktok to get trendy ideas you’re so wrong, the fact that she makes such unique and weird collections with such a huge brand like prada, proves she doesn’t listen to anyone with her design choices. amazingly stupid take.