Sheldon Keefe Said WHAT!? | SDP

Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake react to the comments made by Sheldon Keefe about how well-established coaches have reached out to him saying he should be happy that now he gets to coach in the real NHL.
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[@AshleyBidensBathTime]

“It should send shivers down Betman’s spine” First Betman would need a spine😂

[@chemguy5468]

The irony of a leafs fan calling the rest of the league losers😂😂

[@CoachGarcia]

Right lol

[@bradybrabant476]

The irony of a leafs hater calling leafs fan losers 😂😂

[@TheEDFLegacy]

I think it's the other way around.

[@chemguy5468]

@@bradybrabant476 wow. What a great retort🤣

[@zachroberts1988]

@@bradybrabant476 reading comprehension is not your strong suite is it?

[@dullestpenguin4151]

The real NHL simply refers to every aspect of the team not being dissected down to the most minute detail. Leafs have a healthy scratch of a third pair defenseman and it is talked about for 20 minute segments on 20 different shows. Toronto sports media is actually one of the Leafs biggest hurdles to overcome. The comment is 100% accurate. It's much like being a Yankee, Laker, or Cowboy. Your job is dealing with a thousand things having little to do with what happens on ice or at least things that barely matter.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

I 100% agree with this.

[@quercusquercus532]

I'll grant you, the Cowboys are knocking on the door of the clubhouse the Leafs share with the Knicks and England football. Lakers have won a championship 1/4 of the years I've been alive. Not sure that's a valid comparison.

[@zachroberts1988]

@@quercusquercus532 I try to avoid basketball altogether but you cant deny the Celtics and Lakers are the most over analyzed and most talked about nba franchises.

[@youngsyr]

The point is though that this is your f'ing job and you get very well paid for it. You should expect to have to stand up and explain your decisions and actions to the people who ultimately pay your wages - the fans.

[@quercusquercus532]

@@zachroberts1988 Which in large part stems from them being the most successful NBA franchises, no?

[@dcl97]

I don't know, I took that comment more as... Toronto is a clown show where the media and fans have an excessive amount of influence that is ultimately detrimental to the team. The environment is toxic to both players and management. Just because another city isn't like that doesn't mean the fan base isn't passionate or engaged. NFL, NBA, MLB, I can't really think of another team who has to deal with the constant media circus, and bi-polar fan base, at least not to the level of the leafs.

[@jp783]

So if a team wins a Cup and no one cares, does it make a sound?

[@seandoherty2947]

NBA - Lakers... MLB - Yankees - NFL - Cowboys. Many sports have this.

[@DaveSpies-xu7jp]

I agree 100%. The team collapses around the pressure of external influences and perceived flaws.

[@mcattack2009]

Keefe has made public callouts and has had to walk it back IMMEDIATELY the next day multiple times. He's handcuffed because Toronto coddles the players. I did not take that commet as a slight against fans being fans but as the TEAM itself folds under that public pressure and as a coach you have no authority. But hey, it was funnier to hear Steve cry about it

[@36inc]

cowboys for sure. parts of lakers nation but id say its less effective in basketball where you score constantly so its more of an endurance in who can stay hot rather than who can make one chance really count.

[@dhunter1133]

A couple months back, I was treated to a conversation where Leaf fans were discussing whether the Leafs should "go out and get" Sidney Crosby for their third line, because they were convinced that A) he could be had cheaply, B) he'd be fine with no longer being top six or on the power play because he's basically washed up (he scored 42 goals last year), and C) if he helped the Leafs win the Cup, his legacy "would no longer be in doubt." It's this kind of stuff that makes people hate the Leafs.

[@Burnzie79]

Leaf fans are consistently voted to be the most delusional for a reason.

[@szahmad2416]

100%. And I say that as a Leafs fan.

[@SalociNn19]

Steve's reaction is kinda proving Keefe's point there...

[@giantsfan185]

No it doesn't. Every franchise in any other major sport has media that behaves like Toronto.

[@JRJMC]

I was going to say the same thing. The overreaction to such a small quote just proves the point.

[@jschmitz1712]

@@giantsfan185 i dont know why you guys tell yourself that, its just not even remotely true lmao

[@TEKDAD]

In soccer (football), everyone dreams to play/coach for the big teams. But they don’t have any salary cap, so the team are prestigious and keep winning generally.

[@leeroyy14]

tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watched the video

[@Pyrospriter042]

Some of this is definitely just an overreaction to the comments and like honestly kind of gatekeeping. Viewership for the Stanley Cup playoffs is up 11% year over year, and Game 7 of Canucks-Oilers had higher viewrship than the Caitlin Clark WNBA game before it. "Well because it was the two Canadian teams left so all of Canada was watching". Meanwhile Stars-Kraken last year had a 50% higher viewership rating. I think it'd just a bad narrative to sell that "Leaf fans are the only true hockey fans" if you care about actually spreading the game because thats at least how Steve's reaction to Keefe's comments come off to me. Not saying Keefe's comments are necessarily warranted either, but I see them as Keefe commenting on the uniqueness of the Toronto market versus the rest of the NHL.

[@mn05zk]

Ohhh I think you missed the point there Steve. It’s just that the leafs are a clown show. And people know it.

[@nosoup55]

he should know, he sees the download count for LFR after losses vs wins

[@canadiangee-]

Here we go again with Toronto thinking they should be the center of everything. The coach never got to make any decisions about anything that a coach should be involved in. There’s a reason why Toronto has never won anything and everyone else never has the problems Toronto has. I agree that the NHL is atrocious in viewership, but Toronto is not the reason we all know what the NHL is.

[@judistzoinkiski3395]

Nj is the same thing. Look at the tire fire fitzy did last year.

[@szahmad2416]

@@judistzoinkiski3395 yeah, Toronto is the same as New Jersey...minus three Cups and two Finals appearances in recent history. Okay looking at VERY recent history, I agree. Particularly when you consider they're also front-heavy, no great defense or goalie.

[@zachroberts1988]

Steves unhinged rant just proves the point of how toxic toronto media and the toronto fanbase actually are...

[@cridd83]

Steve's point is that Toronto generates more money to pay coaches and players salaries than any other franchise, and the quote is complaining about that. They're complaining about making more money because it's too hard, too much scrutiny. The media and fan base aren't toxic: they're bigger than other teams, care more, and pay more money.

[@maahes7139]

I agree 100% you'd think after constantly losing in the first round they'd learn some humility but nope not Leafs fans. Classless

[@maahes7139]

@@cridd83 He literally said in a nutshell whoever isn't associated with Toronto is a loser. That's very wrong and just a classless thing to say. Full of arrogance.

[@cridd83]

@@maahes7139 His criticism, prompted by the Keefe quote, is very clearly and explicitly targeted at the "successful coaches" who claim Toronto isn't the "real NHL". The inference being the media and fan base scrutiny is too intense, unfair or difficult to handle. But that intensity occurs because this market is more invested, both emotionally and financially. To disagree is tantamount to saying "I prefer making less money because it's easier". He is calling those coaches and anyone else who agrees in a senior/executive NHL role losers because, per the Keefe quote, they would choose less success on and off the ice because it's easier. I fear you've arrived at the wrong conclusion.

[@dickbiggerjr3613]

​@@cridd83they what ? How do they pay players more than anyone else? There's a salary cap, everyone gets the same amount to pay their players.

[@tankdiggs8974]

This is the 1st rant where I think Steve is totally off base. We know Toronto is a different place to play or coach. We known this for years. Uts not about no one caring. It's honestly that we care too much and the fan base and media are too large. To many dissenting and genuine thoughts. Too many voices. To many chefs. Steve is out to lunch on this one.

[@jp783]

So if a team wins a Cup and no one cares, does it make a sound?

[@pahul79]

Toronto funds the rest of this trash poor league with their revenue. Stephen curry makes 25 million more than the entire Arizona roster LMAO

[@INMATEofARKHAM]

​@pahul79 That's not that impressive, considering Arizona doesn't have a single player on the roster.🙄

[@tankdiggs8974]

I agree. How does that change anything?

[@sidneyrobinson9186]

Absolutely agree with you tank. Steve out to lunch

[@jacobhendry1450]

You get to coach in the real NHL, where you may win the cup unlike Toronto.

[@jp783]

So if a team wins a Cup and no one cares, does it make a sound?

[@szahmad2416]

@@jp783 moot if the city is Toronto. No one cares, and they won't win a Cup.

[@lawyerd16]

@@jp783spoken like a true leafs fan… “no one cares” unless they win the cup, comon dude!

[@jp783]

@@lawyerd16 I'm not a Leafs fan, but if the league's top power brokers are intentionally cutting off their supply of revenue and support, they deserve what they get which are lousy ratings and nothing to promote. NHL is the only league that allows their top stars to get abused and rag dolled in their premiere tournament every spring. There's a reason they have trouble marketing.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

​@@jp783 😂👌

[@ryanperez1453]

I think what they mean is that "Welcome to the League were you can make the 2nd round of the Playoffs". lol

[@Yrocket416]

Sheldon keefe did that with the leafs last year did you forget.

[@jamminninja8924]

@@Yrocket416 once in 19 years isnt really an accomplishment

[@Yrocket416]

@@jamminninja8924 I didn't say that it was an accomplishment its just that the other comment suggested making it to the second round with the leafs is impossible which obviously isn't the case since they did make it there last year.

[@castle4640]

Steve’s archetypal Leafy overreaction/trauma response is why Keefe should feel relieved he’s on ANY other team. Yeeesh. It’s not about being a “loser league”, it’s about the Leafs team and fanbase being obnoxiously Leafy. Period. I also think Steve kinda misunderstood the quote and read too much into it. Those coaches were essentially telling Keefe he should be happy he’s left a toxic and cursed organization with more psychological issues than any therapist could handle, and that he actually has a chance at winning a cup now… 😂

[@alizah8042]

Also, by the strict numbers of his tenure, keefes firing was somewhat unjustified! He has a fantastic winning record. On any other team, that would have been enough to keep his job, but the leafs fired him. The real nhl has much more realistic job expectations which will just make his job not easier, but allow him to meet it with reasonable expectations

[@miyu545]

The quote makes sense, when you're a coach in Toronto you have no say. Between the media and ownership - you have less control as a coach. Pretty basic stuff here. Other coaches get a say. It's not like the rest of the league. This is a very simple concept.

[@tonkange]

Right, "real" in this context means "serious professional sports competition"

[@SHiFTyTReATS]

And they got butthurt by that comment because they know it’s true 😂

[@GeoGolfer]

Dude, I love your stuff. But TBH, the NHL is not like the American style sports where individuals are the stars. It’s all about the teams. And I’m ok with that. JMHO

[@jchristner82]

One of the best things about hockey!

[@rickyhazel1030]

Truthfully Dangle proving the point, toxic fan base in Toronto, literally complaining about the exact stuff Leaf fans are famous for complaining about Edit. LA fans are catching up

[@mynameisdpc]

The rest of the league is where the cups are

[@jamminninja8924]

Toronto thinking the only fanbase in canada is the leafs. You homers proving the point

[@toedrag-release]

Honestly that's the whole city. Toronto thinks they are the center of the universe. Any criticism of the city is "they're just jealous because they want to be Toronto"

[@jamminninja8924]

@@toedrag-releaseexactly. they feel like they are perfecr. there is a reason the entire country hates them

[@tommyp7651]

You guys are both anti Toronto and still spending time to comment on Toronto. Proving points 😂

[@toedrag-release]

@@tommyp7651 yeah people hate Toronto, when people don't like something they tend to voice their opinion on something when it's brought up in conversation 🤷

[@jamminninja8924]

​@tommyp7651 just showcasing the arrogance of laughs fans. My team is one game away from the Stanley cup finals.. we don't know you Lil bro

[@geoffreid27]

AND..... SDPN proves the point!

[@maahes7139]

What point? That Toronto's fanbase is the most toxic in the league? Lol

[@4.0.7.7]

Steve’s problem has always been that he makes way too many assumptions. He arrives at a conclusion without full context. He does this all the time. No way he should get that worked up about something he doesn’t fully understand. He literally just heard it.

[@AC-ri2ph]

When you're part of the problem you will never be objective

[@ronaldmorell9793]

seems Stevie is a little put off when the knife cuts close to the bone

[@Thorok1011]

Steve is completely off base here.

[@thelovefromupabove7347]

Man, I'm a sdpn fan and this take is making me kind of happy the Leafs haven't won in almost 60 years.

[@andreleblanc7616]

Steve, you are way too emotional on this one, I take it to mean Toronto is a tough team for any coach to work with, the Toronto media is toxic as are most fans.

[@jaegerman66]

Subtext also being that TO is the only franchise in any sport on earth where a coach can feel obligated to retract criticisms of his own player due to fears of backlash. That doesn't play in the rest of the League, hence the "welcome to a real coaching job" implication

[@DavidLeCorre2]

I've been listening to the Pod less and less over the past two years, and this clip is the perfect example why

[@haleypotts4513]

Good for you

[@The_Punisher_969]

Wow that was quite the pathetic rant ngl I usually agree with most of what Steve has to say but this was just very very sad. Steve reacted like a little child when someone say their favorite thing isn't the best thing in the world. Like how does this quote have anything to do with the ratings or the salary cap? Huge L

[@str31ch55]

I think a lot of the people in the comments missed the point of this, Steve isn't crying necessarily about the Leafs. There's a point to saying that it's ironic coming from an extension of the Toronto media (which he acknowledges) but I think he's more upset about the lack of pride and overabundance of contempt that is coming from those coaches that reached out to Keefe. I'm saying this as a Boston sports fan who has constant media attention around all its major sports teams (which gets ridiculous the majority of the time) and I get how Keefe and/or other coaches might not want that much attention and scrutiny. HOWEVER, I agree with Steve especially when he brings up the point of NBA role players making ~$100 million and that the NHL doesn't seem to be able to get enough to start giving its players those types of contracts and the scrutiny of organizations like the Leafs, Bruins, or any other big market team is a factor in garnering attention that will eventually lead to more money coming into the league. With that being said, I think that both Steve is right and wrong and don't fully agree with his tirade but as someone who can relate to his level of commitment, passion, and love for a team, he is absolutely within his right to speak on the NHL and the Leafs in this manner. If anyone disagrees with me, I would love to hear it from another perspective but I think he's got a point.

[@mr.brenman2132]

The WNBA loses money every year. The NHL makes 6 billion dollars a year and is the 5th largest sports league in the world. Comparing Caitlin Clark to the entire NHL is absurd. The NHL needs to improve in a lot of ways but the players make good money. You don't need to compare the NHL to other leagues when it comes to pay. They get plenty. The Leafs are not the only team that makes money for the NHL.

[@LARGO125]

The irony of these3 going off like this over that comment. They arent mad because somebody said this about a random market. They're mad because somebody mocked Toronto. How do i know, because these same 3 idiots make similar statements about just about EVERY OTHER MARKET, especially other Canadian markets, all the time.

[@ryans413]

They are mad because they know that statement is true. Steve took it so personal.

[@hixsongarren]

this is such a loser take for steve to have to be honest. make up scenarios in your head that dont exist and call others losers for said made up scenario. really should have showed them they were pretty off base when they were at a live event, brought this subject up and only like 5 or 10 people spoke up in agreeance in a room of over 100. and they wonder why the league doesnt take them seriously or give them any access. because they have screamy clickbaity takes like this.

[@james-in-3D]

He keeps saying players want to play for US teams so they can “hide” in small markets which is honestly pretty insulting, like they aren’t willing to take criticism. They are professional players playing in a professional league. Yeah the NHL isn’t as big as the other major sports but it’s because the barriers for the average joe and kids to play it are so much higher than other sports. You have to have ice to play on, all the equipment, be able to afford it all, etc. That’s why soccer (football) is so popular because you just need a ball to play. Also, if the players are “hiding” in US teams, what are you insinuating they are hiding from? An unhinged, nitpicky, overwhelming Canadian commentary? Yeah can’t really blame the players for wanting to play in a market that doesn’t report on their every single mistake. Ya’ll get so upset at the Leafs and their fan base being the heel of the NHL but you’ve make it too easy with reactions like this.

[@judistzoinkiski3395]

Yup Hockey is the most expensive sport, it even might be more expensive than motorsports(nascar,F1,Dirt bike drag races etc) if you include the repairs and all that stuff.

[@returned1802]

Multiple players have out right said that they don't want to play in big markets because they don't want cristism, I wouldn't say its insulting rather its just true. The first two examples that come to mind are Gudas and O'Reilly, I could also probably link you maybe 25 articles, fairly easily, that talk about it.

[@AC-ri2ph]

​@@returned1802and fand and media will claim they have no idea why they said that and think stars want to play for them.

[@returned1802]

@@AC-ri2ph thats not necessarily true, I'm a leafs fan and the reason they don't want to play for us is 1. the organization is a mess right now in terms of cap space and 2. some players enjoy and embrace big market teams and other players would rather make the same money and not be given a second glance in a smaller market

[@zachwalentiny]

The Toronto Maple Leafs franchise, media, fans and city are the NHL equivalent of a Karen. You just let them express their feelings by throwing a hissy fit, then once they are done crying, the real adults can have a conversation lol.

[@matteo89992]

Steve absolutely tripping for absolutely nothing. He doesn't understand the meaning of "real" in this context. What even has it to do with losers? Wtf

[@ryans413]

He took it personal because he knows it’s true.

[@LanceAlrik]

I think Steve is mentally broken at this point😂

[@sidneyrobinson9186]

Sorry Toronto is a joke, always has been and will be.

[@Burnzie79]

They have the gall to call former champion coaches losers?😂 They inserted their own subtext about the quote and had an unhinged and insecure rant about it.

[@datriaxsondor590]

When you are a clueless to what a gong show of a franchise you cheer for and defend. Look no further than, SDPN. Well done, boys. Well done. 🍻

[@TheZynMan]

Steve utterly missing the point here. It's not the scrutiny that makes Toronto unreal. It's the way that your fanbase has internalized its trauma and lashes out with it whenever there's a bump in the road. You're the divorcee that nobody would ever date because you're still busy unhealthily obsessing over all the ways it went wrong in your past. There is no blank slate with you. "You should WANT to be a part of that" .... dude, NOBODY wants to be a part of something like that.

[@SteveDangle]

Man I nailed it

[@impulse_xs]

They came so close to self awareness and somehow still missed the mark by a mile lmao

[@ML-my8qq]

Dangle is the real loser here…..he’s calling out people like you. Just like how Bieksa called out the Edmonton media last game.

[@drew03333]

Toronto media in denial when someone says there part of the problem is funny too me 😂

[@Derm69]

I just wish leaf fans were more realistic and stopped pretending this team that’s done nothing deserves to win anything. Maybe you’d win if you got in the trenches with your boys like any other fan base instead of finding every little thing to throw a hissy fit about. It’s crazy how support works a lot better than pressure. “Thats just my opinion though.” Said the rest of the NHL

[@njdbrasil6]

The temper tantrums are so big on the show sometimes. You would forget that some of them have kids. 🤣

[@jp783]

So if a team wins a Cup and no one cares, does it make a sound?

[@judistzoinkiski3395]

It gets clicks just like how ppl cuz cry and complain and make hate videos on every game,Movie,tv show etc.

[@michaelb4590]

His comment isn’t inaccurate as they are a bunch of entitled spoiled athletes that can’t handle any criticism

[@patricktrinh5933]

Wake up guys, nobody cares about the large amount of fans if all you do is lose. The fans don't even expect success, and you think this is an ideal place to work?

[@mbombdiggity]

Steve's reaction is completely missing the point. He is saying that Toronto's atmosphere, the media, the expectations aren't like anything else. You're heavily scrutinized year after year, having to make dumb public apologies after calling players out, the Toronto media is soft. Players are seen "like gods" as Marner put it. Now Keefe is going to a organization, market, fan base that celebrates its players, doesn't unncessarily criticize every little detail, and can focus on hockey. The Toronto Maple Leafs are the Dallas Cowboys and Yankees of the NHL. They are the center of attention and the fan base is entitled. The "real NHL" doesn't consist of having to walk on egg shells every day of your life, hoping you don't say the wrong thing. I for one, would absolutely hate if that was the culture in the company I worked for.

[@UncleRosie]

The simple fact that you’re going on about this long after the Leafs have been eliminated and there are four NHL teams engaged in barnburner semi finals proves Keefe’s point perfectly. I call it Leaf derangement syndrome.

[@oceanghose7978]

Whenever I miss Toronto, I occasionally watch SDPN and my restlessness subsides. This was an A+ video by those standards.

[@Twpg204]

Steve Dangle uncensored is next level 😂

[@ther.e.s.tcentre7364]

Do you guys have a defibrillator in the office? I'm concerned for Steve...... lol

[@canadianroot]

Absolutely. And he’s been vaksed (felt he had to mention that way back during the hysteria).

[@teeflight]

the leaf trolls are so bad as of late. Lot's of boomers chuckling together but anyways being a fan of the leafs I can tell you I don't listen to these guys opinion , I don't listen to 90% of the media here because I agree it's ridiculous and toxic. The league doesn't revolve around us and the world goes on while we continue to lose. Let's focus on winning here , this whole video has no point and its for some clicks

[@walkerpercy8702]

The real NHL in this context means not having to coach in an obsessive market where hockey is not just a sport but a religion and losing is heresy and treason.

[@aps1s]

kind of ironic that Steve says "nobody cares" and then goes on a several minute rant. Seems like someone cares......

[@LanceAlrik]

Yeah you taken it out of context with that.

[@kygo_tothepolls]

missing the point entirely, like everyone Steve's arguing against here

[@SteveDangle]

me when I don’t get things

[@MetalCharlo]

The only place comparable to Toronto is Montreal. I kinda see where he's coming from with this quote.

[@michaelb4590]

Don’t compare Montreal to this as Toronto is all by itself in attitudes and lack of success

[@jancam464]

@@michaelb4590 You're right. Montreal is much worse. At least Toronto makes the playoffs

[@marcbabineau6001]

@@jancam464 24 cups buddy, stop crying

[@Burnzie79]

​@@jancam464Montreal eliminated Toronto in hilarious fashion and reached the finals.

[@Lancer212]

@@jancam464 If you don't win a round you don't even get the credit for "making the playoffs."

[@MarmiteMangoMachine]

It's telling that Dangle and Leafs fans in general get labelled toxic. The immortal Bill Shankly once said: "Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." That is the mentality of football fans all over the world. Hockey fans, with a few notable exceptions, don't share that mentality, and it hurts the sport.

[@THEGDB]

No one stalks the new coach having coffee with a star player rumored to be traded and post it on social media, players like to leave hockey at the rink sometimes .Toronto hurts it's own cause , O'Reilly was right

[@mr.stealth3195]

Steve is 100 percent correct. The NHL has always been a league with a niche mentality. What’s weird is seeing the journalists/ former players with media jobs say the same nonsense. They benefit the most from the fans passion & interest in the sport, yet they speak the same whiny drivel. Why don’t they quit their media gigs then? Do they think people are interested in their charming personalities & not the sport that they cover?

[@mr.brenman2132]

The league makes 6.4 billion dollars a year and it doesn't all come from the Leafs. Enough with the nonsense. The NHL is marketed horribly but that has nothing to do with the leaf's toxic fanbase. Several teams are on par with Toronto in revenue. Their fans and media don't have that reputation.

[@lukefantini9770]

Leaf's fan mad that they are not the center of the hockey universe in every aspect. The quote is literally just saying their is a lot of media in Toronto. Of course Leafs fans who think they are the center of hockey see it as an insult. This is why people love when the Leafs lose, their fans ego's are way too big.

[@vinceslapchopper]

Sheldon Keefe should thank his lucky stars he got another gig so quickly after the shocking lack of success he achieved in the postseason. Let that sink in, Ducharme led the Habs to a Stanley Cup final, got fired and has been banished to the shadow realm ever since.

[@robinirving8307]

The point is that NO ONE wants to play or coach in Toronto. Or the rest of Canada actually.

[@Movedtomexico2018]

Relax dude. NHL has grown tremendously. Your rant is ridiculous.

[@Muz__27]

Steve took the quote very much out of context I think. It is kinda left up to interpretation but I see it more like just saying that if you're on another NHL team (more so in the US) if you lose they don't crucify you or even care nearly as much so there's much less stress day in day out. Leafs fans will 100% praise their team to no end when good things are happening but can get extremely nasty when things go bad. The media there is definitely a circus show as well.

[@lilturbo2657]

Steve out here proving Sheldon’s point what a joke.

[@stevens4ever950003]

Steven was instantly butthurt LMAOOOOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SHiFTyTReATS]

Their outrage tells me, weather they want to admit it or not, that they know it’s true. 😂

[@devackroyd]

I think the whole "hiding" narrative isn't as much of a thing any more in the age of hyper media attention with social media. There are more and more people reacting and criticizing athletes publicly than ever. It may not be as much of a fishbowl in certain markets, but people are always talking and sharing opinions and reporters are always stirring the pot. Professional athletes have a tougher time than ever avoiding that kind of stuff and it has made some markets that already had issues with being a fishbowl (like Toronto) unbearable for some.

[@MrJabez89]

This is nothing to get angry about

[@ali-rezaasarizadeh1139]

It's funny Steve calls them losers when its us who hasn't won a damn thing since 1967. And is 100% because the media and toxic fanbase actually rubs off on the team. Its not a curse its just cause and effect. You know when top players come to Toronto? When they just want to end a career and collect some glory on the way out. Look at Zack Hyman, losers say he was too expensive and now he is thriving! Bozak and Kadri instant stanley cup winners as soon as they leave TO. Honestly, we peaked here in Toronto a long time ago, I'd say in the Pat Quinn Era. Since then the city and the people in general have just deteriorated and we are just beginning the decline. I love Steve but It's just projection to call actual winners "losers".

[@mercifulpancake5669]

Yeah idk chief. Between this bad take from Steve and his recent reporting on a non-factual 3 on 3 league, I'm starting to lose respect for this program that Dangle is running.

[@TheHowMan68]

you guys are always spot on,..huge Islanders fan here but always watching SDPN BABY!!

[@robbrown8082]

Welcome to the real NHL where you don't have to walk back comments about your players.

[@rickdudley6478]

Dangle went off lmfao. I absolutely loved it

[@kennethrhea7746]

love the Toronto fan rant. lmao. its everyone else's fault

[@jimlangdon1947]

Leafs have been a bottom 50% Playoff Team for 20 years. That is unique - the Leafs pretend they have stars & overpay them $11 Million and watch them playoff disappoint every spring. Toronto foolishly think they have a playoff contender by doing so - are not really in the real NHL in terms of playoff success. Leafs should identify they poorly chose a core that is dysfunctional - but at least succeeds in the regular seasons only.

[@charge416]

They probably also think The Acolyte is real Star Wars as well

[@BrayGoesTV]

The fact that Caitlin Clark is a bigger star then Connor Mcdavid should tell you all you need to know about the NHL.

[@mr.brenman2132]

She's the only star the WNBA has ever had. The NHL makes 6.4 billion dollars a year and the WNBA loses millions of dollars every year. There is no comparison. Caitlin Clark is astro turfed by the NBA and media. She can't save the WNBA's product. McDavid has no personality and he plays in Edmonton. If he starts winning cups he'll be a star.

[@ryans413]

Steve woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

[@ImploreYouReconsider]

I mean, if you don't think the head coaching position for the TML isn't influenced by upstairs factors after all these years, then idk We know Shanahan very much influenced Dubas decisions

[@rjkilla84]

bro proving why nobody takes the leafs seriously. The cowboys of the NHL

[@vipeholmskolan6052]

The real NHL is on the other side of the border from you, where there are teams that win cups.

[@KptKrunch9481]

Agreed on comments here. The Leafs and their players play in the #1 media market (by far) in North America. By that I mean no US based team has the same media attention in the US that the Leafs have in Canada - not NHL, ANY PRO SPORTS TEAM. Canada is Toronto centric, all we get is Toronto Toronto Toronto - even the 4k broadcasts - about 1/3 of the commercials on there are TORONTO/ONTARIO based commercials (radio station, and especially gambling - read the fine print "Ontario only"). It's pathetic. When you make a mistake on the ice - EVERYONE IN CANADA knows about. If a Wpg Jet makes a mistake - no one outside of Manitoba knows, or cares. THAT is the ISSUE. Leaf fans, there's reason your team has only been to the final 4 only a couple of times since '67 - and why a lot of your players excel once they leave your team. It will never change - no Cup will ever be won in Toronto again.

[@JMToronto]

This the best video I’ve seen in a long time , let’s go Steve ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@danjacques77]

When the Leafs reach the finals? lololololololol

[@eggstu]

Someone check on Steve

[@sdt1sdt]

Hey guys, great channel and amazing episode as always. Steve, I think you're wrong on this one and the other coaches in the NHL are correct. There's a reason a Canadian team has not won the Stanley Cup in over 30 years. Canadian teams, the Maple Leafs in particular, are managed and coached in a way that makes them soft. We've all talked about this for the last 7 or 8 years, so should not be surprise. We did actually go out and get Ryan Reeves, Tyler Bertuzzi and Max Domi to try to protect our superstars, but then we probably neutered them with the overarching message from on high: "don't get penalties". Even after we got those guys, the other teams had no problem taking liberties with our top players. There has been a little bit of pushback periodically, but nothing with any substance. Oh well, at least we didn't get a penalty...

[@weezman1984]

Man. How long did they keep Steve in a straight jacket and gagged before this segment? 😂 I’m still trying to even figure out the point he was making.

[@henrywilliams4781]

I think Steve's off. The Leafs aren't just a media circus, they're *the team* in the same way that the Yankees or the Cowboys are *the team.* They're an icon and a tradition and a culture--for better and for worse. The Hurricanes (no disrespect) are a franchise among others. Same goes for the likes of the Blackhawks and Lightning who have enjoyed a lot more recent success than the Leafs have--still franchises among others. They're not the LEAFS. Other cities (looking at Philly) love to boo their team off the ice and eviscerate them in the opinion columns. But the Flyers ain't the LEAFS. We love ya, Steve. But it isn't "plain English" that Keefe meant adversity coming from the Toronto media with that quote.

[@quercusquercus532]

En francais plaine, on dit "L'equipe". C'est pas les (Mis)Erables.

[@DaringChinchilla]

Headphone warning on this one!

[@jimstoyles7617]

That is his best way to Blame the Players and not himself ! Now we're going to see if it was Keefe or the Team ? People are going to see what happens with the Devil's !!! It's going to be a Great New N. H. L. Sheldon is Coach ing in it

[@zaneplatt3533]

Considering the Leafs have had over half a century of failure, it is clearly the team...

[@nosoup55]

"scratch their name off the cup" don't have to do that for Toronto lmao

[@HabsAndHeavyMetal]

Leaf fans are so delusional!

[@FacYeah]

Steve is absolutely right. 👏

[@sebsaavysworld8469]

Those coaches that said that to keefe are right.

[@macleanclassics]

I wasn't bothered at all by that quote, to me it just said Leaf Nation is the biggest, craziest fan base in the NHL..... yes, yes we are. Put on your big boy pants if you're interested in working here.

[@ShadowNyx3]

Steve , you are 110% on point here and you made a fan for life with this rant. The NHL is now unquestionably the biggest joke of a professional league in North America after the recent changes to MLB, and I love seeing someone who loves hockey so much that they can call out this BS. Hockey is such an echo chamber of closed-off thinking that this sport literally exists to serve its small, conservative fanbase with no legitimate ambition (or competency) to try and capture the cultural sports landscape outside of a few cities.

[@trevorsanso32]

Somone's mad canada never has any nhl success

[@mariltn4]

Am sao sad that Keefe has left Toronto. I just might watch New Jersey just to see him.

[@philkessel81]

Leafs should just hire Phill to be the coach

[@bellamydrake9343]

Steve you are proving the point made by other coaches.