Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2 Boss Satan [HARD]

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Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2 Boss Satan [HARD]
First time playing through the game.
Sequel to Digital Devil Saga 1. After finishing DDS1, and enjoying it alot (beside high encounter rate) the story was actually good and motivated me to start DDS2.
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[@cheggles3830]

Seraph: doing approximately 5 million jobs at once Cielo: applying charge and voiding ailments when he needs to Argilla: I’m just here to pass turns :)

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

half turn fodder

[@omarbaassiri8689]

Because the only way to kill Satan is to steal his stats and make him feel shit. Wow.

[@trigomathmancer9217]

And because she innately resists Mahamon due to human form so if Satan goes for it they waste a press turn.

[@medicindisquise4271]

If I had a nickel for every time a SMT game had a talking cat as a supporting character, I'd have about four nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened four times

[@CereDulce37]

🐈

[@sock312]

The phineas and ferb reference tho

[@fukou_da]

Gouto, Schrodinger, Morgana and...?

[@lelouchvibritannia9765]

@@fukou_da Goto and Raido I think

[@killrama2222]

@@fukou_da zula

[@TJ20232]

Man the mid 00s SMT games still play and look amazing.

[@oxicemusic]

On emulator

[@TJ20232]

@@oxicemusic I still play them on my ps2, and they look great. The only issue is my TV being quite big, it drags the pixels out

[@bleach___]

@@oxicemusic they look better on tv, especially older ones or a crt

[@Gooshieooshie5000]

@@oxicemusic played it on ps2 on a 4K tv and it rendered at 1080p no problem, idk what’s wrong with yours lol

[@ronank2432]

@@TJ20232 the best experience is still on a good crt tv or use modern tv and max everything and render in an emulator, obv the game is not in its full potential because of ps2 limitations, like 60fps og shadow of collosus

[@PuckishAngel]

I just noticed that you get Atma points for this battle. This means that they eat Satan!

[@fuckitweballin759]

Digital devil saga is just a jrpg based around vore, of course you'd vore satan

[@kaidene573]

Paul Miller why

[@BlueMageDaisen]

@@kaidene573 Cumgestion is faster

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

@@kaidene573 Better question, why not?

[@arctohru]

Gotta love how this comment chain progressively gets more cursed

[@SciontheDark]

I like that he mentions Aleph, who is so important that versions of Satan remember him throughout the multiverse, and yet Aleph is cursed to be reincarnated in every universe and live completely inconsequential lives.

[@zombyjano]

I like how the three bosses that lead up to Satan just disappear when they die, and Satan himself *FUCKING EXPLODES* . It's a cool animation.

[@WaywardRobot]

Now these two games could really use a remaster now that Nocturne is on the table.

[@AraiiarA]

Or at the very least re-releases. A PC port would just be a guaranteed profit for ATLUS lol

[@Fircasice]

All of my yes. A remaster of this duology would be great!

[@999a0s]

i can't be the only one that LOVES Mamudoon in the DDS games for how sinister it looks and sounds. many of the spells in the game arguably lack "punch" or "power" to them, but Mamudoon genuinely feels extremely dangerous.

[@rdu239]

I close my eyes and hope It doesnt hit on me

[@makotomachiyuki]

Pls miss pls miss pls miss *death* Whyyy

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

@BigOmegaTV same engine so obviously all spell effects are carryovers

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

Meanwhile Hama be like: oh no floating paper

[@ronank2432]

@@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas they really milked out nocturne engine and assets which a def crazy ROI, i think a decade reusing demons, animation and all the stuff until persona 4 golden

[@someguyparagon5273]

BuffMaister Here's a fun fact about the satan fight. When you beat him he says the exact same words from his Shin megami tensei 2 fight... Nice reference. Also 15 MINUTES?

[@BuffMaister]

You fight him in other games as well? I've only seen his first appearance in Persona series as a summon but that's it. I don't know why he didn't get an entrance in SMT3 Nocturne but did in here.

[@ignaciopena3116]

He is one of the final bosses before YHVH

[@someguyparagon5273]

Rumia Rumiante Since in the SMT series he's God Right Man...

[@Xeper616]

@@BuffMaister It would have been lame if Satan appeared again in Nocturne considering he plays such a big role in SMT II, Satan also appears in Apocalypse.

[@RisottosWife]

@@Xeper616 but I mean, what about Lucifer?

[@NaNagi51]

You didn't even use that stone. Amazing fight.

[@ShadowBaofu]

He's lucky he got two hits on that Divine Light, otherwise he would have healed back to full. I cant imagine fighting Satan with 30,000 HP at Phase 3 with Retribution Retribution Dekaja Temptation is fun.

[@88SLLS]

Wow, probably the best tactic I've seen. I'm struggling right now with this boss... think I'm going to try your method. Seraph: Dual ring power charge, divine light, salvation, void death, tarukaja, critical?, max critical?, resolution? Cielo: Syncro ring salvation, void charm, makakaja, mind charge, quick cure?, life surge? close call? Argilla: Turn ring human form, quick cure?, life surge? I'm guessing that's your setup more or less.

[@BuffMaister]

Yeah, that's about right. You still need to have a lucky run to get through this, and you can also use the stone that gives you extra turns.

[@estepeadr12345]

Seems like going offensive and end the battle as soon as possible like your strat is a better approach to lessen chances RNGesus wipe out your party. Using dual ring and Power charge + divine light in a turn is a great setup !

[@MegamiTensei2]

man your strat was pretty solid, I thought you were going to use gale's special skill to deal damage considering how you've been playing so far, and you didnt even use the impel stone!

[@BuffMaister]

Multiple starts could be used here, but it's yet another RNG luck Boss. Especially near the end where it has a chance to use Diahran when you can't finish him off around his last 1.5k HP. I've seen starts where they just finish this off in 4 turns with the Impel stone, but that's like locking DF in Red Star.

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

Fun fact: Even if a repel shield does nothing against the original attacker (i.e. Death Repel back at any boss), it's still more worthwhile than the void equivalent since it STILL instantly ends their turn phase If an enemy who nulls earth casts Tera, setting up Earth Repel over Void Earth makes no difference EXCEPT for draining all the enemy’s press turns rather than two But of course, if an absorb equivalent exists, then it'll do the same thing but also heal, which you can never go wrong with

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

That seems all well and good...but in DDS, if a unit drains an element, repelled attacks of that element will heal them

[@cidredwood6170]

Imagine Persona peeps coming into this. Satan: *turn* *turn* Player: well that was harsh but time to he- *turn* Player: wait wha- *TURN* *TURN* *TURN* *TURN* *TURN* *TURN* *TURN* *TURN* *TURNTURNTURNTURNTURNTURNTUUUUUUUUUUUURN* *turn*

[@BlueMageDaisen]

Hey, not all us Persona peeps are lightweights I've beat the original SMT, neutral route including Baal Zebul =P

[@erockgoblue6295]

BlueMageDanny we know some of you aren’t it’s mostly the persona 5 fans

[@BlueMageDaisen]

​@@erockgoblue6295 Give 'em time, it's planted a seed in a lot of players I've seen a lot who have already expanded into the other Personas and seem well on the way to exploring SMT as whole =3

[@erockgoblue6295]

BlueMageDanny sorry i must’ve forgotten about that thanks for reminding me

[@BlueMageDaisen]

@@erockgoblue6295 Also, since I posted that, I'm nearly finished with Soul Hackers! =3

[@rockethero1177]

Ah yes let us eat Satan Himself

[@hesmycat]

Dds had the hardest super bosses by far. Idk of it's just the 3 press turns or if it has something to do with the levels you beat the games at but God damn

[@peropero2208]

Our favorite Angel,six tiddy scooby doo monster

[@PILAR-DA-LUZ]

Jogo lindo jogo maravilhoso :)

[@DoNotSuiciniv]

Esse jogo é incrível mesmo

[@mestremiller1805]

Um remaster dos dois pro ps4 seria uma benção de YHVH ^_^

[@funninoriginal6054]

Eu e meus manos virando demônios e fazendo vore

[@jedahaw]

Dayum, 15 minutes!?

[@jaderabbit898]

SOmeone killed Satan in just 2 turns. 2 TURNS!!

[@manuelmateo3392]

@@jaderabbit898 I've only seen the 3 Turn. That sounds nuts.

[@jaderabbit898]

@@manuelmateo3392 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIuVZpp7mad9bJI Nuff said.

[@instantramen4588]

Its crazy dawg

[@jamesstaton3265]

Poor Cielo, he's always the one eating Retribution in this fight.

[@someguyparagon5273]

James Staton Eh someone gotta be constantly taking one for the team...

[@apocalfailed8090]

Retribution basically says "delete whoever has the lowest magic stat", so...

[@CereDulce37]

@@apocalfailed8090 😴 lul

[@ivanlagrana878]

Retribution: 100% chance of instant-death against comic relief characters.

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

@@ivanlagrana878 That's f*cked up!

[@Barrothmaster452]

NOT TODAY SATAN!!!

[@reddmcknight72]

Am I seeing things, or is Satan "firing his laser" for lack of a better term out of his eyes as he dies?

[@Windermed]

so from what I can tell, this is probably Zayin himself if he’s referencing SMT2 in the battle dialogue correct?

[@reddmcknight72]

Correct. When he refers to "that man", he's talking about Aleph, and after he is destroyed, his words are almost word-for-word from SMT2 in the same manner.

[@namespelldwrong9779]

Does anyone know what builds he used for everyone? It’s definitely not the same as the strat im using, so im very curious

[@exbelion3543]

Harder than Lucifer in Nocturne or Mem Aleph

[@torrashinjiro4196]

Well he is a super bonus boss so yes. He's ment to be hard

[@tomatopawah6877]

Mem Aleph isn't hard, just annoying

[@bubbletea_]

what's the purpose of having argilla in human form? is it just for the light immunity or is there an even bigger galaxy brain play here that i just can't see.

[@_Meltdown_]

I'm pretty sure Argilla is here for three reasons 1. Aside from how you build Seraph, Argilla has the highest magic stat in the game and won't get hit by Satan's retribution unless Cielo is down, and depending on how you built Seraph, it would come down to a 50/50 to who would die first 2. Like you said, she nullifies Expel magic which cuts down on Satan's turns (which is required to do in a based luck super boss like this) 3. Her demon form is weak to Zan so having her in her human form removes that weakness, that way you can avoid giving Satan half press turns

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

👋🏽

[@alexanderjosetorcatguarach9830]

Hello, I have a question, ¿Do you think that the Human Form Skill is really necessary to kill Satan? ¿Do you think it's possible to kill him without that skill? The thing is starting a playthrough on Hard mode, finishing it and starting New Game Plus on Hard mode from scratch again just for the Berserker Ring and the Human Form Skill makes me a bit lazy xd

[@twilight684]

You don't have to have the Human Form skill, just use that first turn to revert them to human form and that's it.

[@alexanderjosetorcatguarach9830]

@@twilight684 Ok, thanks

[@donbototo5068]

Nope, but you can make him waste turn cause the human form is inmune to hama skills

[@bigdingus9333]

This feels like they wanted to one up Demi-Fiend in DDS1 with these insane abilities, negating passive abilities and a complete party wipe? Nah mate

[@carolinethompson3328]

When everyone keeps evading mamudoon even without the anti-death shield up, that's just luck? (Literal luck, not the stat.) Or is it good stats?

[@CryonicCy]

RNG luck does nothing

[@Maverick-65]

What's the song that plays outside the fight?

[@Maverick-65]

I found it. It's call "Nirvana ".

[@EdouardMulheim]

Thanks

[@anialguj6727]

That seems way harder than nocturne

[@JohnGaming55]

It is

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

Remember you fought Demi Fiend here with whopping large huge HP of his. That battle almost took an hour

[@gravityrushfan299]

Ashly graham likes snake from metal gear solid.

[@Kira22558]

And ?

[@anders6326]

Will we ever get rpgs as incredible and deep as DDS again?

[@fuckingking6796]

Yes

[@jojomicheldu59]

DDS was mid af

[@rango190]

the guy above me said the biggest bs ever

[@zydomason]

​@@rango190 he might have been influenced by a cock in his mouth

[@Kira22558]

​@@jojomicheldu59 nah.

[@tandebingpaposma7344]

0:14 sorry to ask but what is this song's name?

[@videodruggie]

tandebing paposma Epic battle prelude

[@RazorusR3X777]

Hunting Betrayal

[@elmeromogollon]

I just realized that seraph has 2 press turns lol

[@twilight684]

That's because someone in the party has the Turn Ring equipped which gives you an extra turn icon in battles.

[@Dembilaja]

Wait, this is made on same engine as Nocturne, I mean it certainly looks like Nocturne... Why they didn't remaster these games too?

[@Simba2UU]

I think it's cause DDS is one of their lesser popular games + Why remaster DDS when you can make bank off of 50 Persona 4 or 5 spin offs?

[@agcz789]

Not popular enough

[@CGGongtai]

Poor sales most likely. Avatar Tuner 1 and 2 combined sold less than SMT3 on its own (not even factoring in the Maniax version or the HD Remaster). AT1 only sold about 150k copies, and 2 was barely 80k, while the original release of SMT3 did about 270k. On the other hand, sales alone don't dictate Atlus' decisions to remake things: Strange Journey sold even worse (only about 127k) but got its 3DS remaster, and Devil Survivor 2 got a remaster despite selling half as many copies as AT1. There's a possibility that it's related to the fact that Atlus contracted a famous author (Yu Godai) to draft the story of the games, but due to illness she had to back out of the project and Atlus' screenwriters had to finish the story from her outline. She went on to publish a series of novels with her version of the story, so there's a possibility that it presents a legal hurdle that they don't want to deal with.

[@EnzoZambrotti]

Anybody knows the music for this battle?

[@LucaDaSilva57642]

Hunting Betrayal.

[@EnzoZambrotti]

Hooked On A Feeling Thank you kind Stranger

[@blastermaster7261]

@@LucaDaSilva57642 it's so fucking good. I have surpassed many of my limits in the gym to this very song. It's like how it sounds to struggle!!!! But you fight on and anyways! B2 gives me that same sensation.

[@miracanil5490]

How do you get the 4th turn icon? Thanks.

[@victarr.7428]

The turn ring is equipped. It's a broken overpowered item... but to get it the player has to beat an optional boss who may or may not be second hardest boss in the game.

[@MegidoMon]

@@victarr.7428 are you talking about Meganada?

[@victarr.7428]

No, the Turn Ring is from an optional boss.

[@angelbaxter7971]

It's from beating shiva in one of the 2 rooms before the meganada boss fight

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

​@@victarr.7428Shiva can be cheesed - if you have over 800 HP, you can just bruteforce him using just human form by spamming guns, amd Shiva can't exactly kill you from full with Third Eye if you have 800+ HP (just bring Null Nerve to not get Stunned)

[@abrahamschneider5673]

you might not remember, but how did you grind for this boss?

[@miracanil5490]

Why heat is 52 level :D now serph is stronger than him

[@M-9ine]

PERSONAAAAAAA

[@shibba2517]

Why Argilla is in human form?

[@hanighazzal6834]

Because in the human form she is immune to mahamoan

[@antihero9443]

plus her demon form is weak to zan.

[@zombyjano]

Also she looks pretty, so that can help

[@user-us7ri5us9f]

You need someone to be in human form to use charge at the end of each turn, or Satan will literally annihilate your entire party in a single hit after 3 turns.

[@edberaga6357]

​@@user-us7ri5us9fwhat the?! Thats so unfair!!

[@legendredux1291]

Why are there 4 press turn blocks?

[@FarisFlowers]

Accessory, don't know which one but you could always look it up

[@Gravistry]

Turn Ring, I think

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

An item called Turn Ring, you get it from defeating Shiva

[@rabihxabbaz6149]

Second cycle or first cycle ?

[@Kira22558]

What?

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@Kira22558He asks if NG+ was used. It was, because Argilla had the Human Form passive equipped

[@andrewhall6479]

...Zayin?

[@fuckingking6796]

Not him Unless he say something about aleph

[@jotaroisbestboy7593]

@@fuckingking6796 this clearly zayin

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

​@@fuckingking6796Yup, it is him. When he says "that man", he means Aleph

[@Windermed]

@@fuckingking6796it is him. he’s referencing SMT2 Satan and the Archangels are from SMT2. they all reference SMT2’s events

[@alexlepage9456]

Hey they stole satan from Persona

[@donaldmerritt1861]

This design of him was used for most of the megami tensei games as well

[@gamrroyale5928]

I used to think that but I now know

[@jackour8167]

Please tell me this is a joke

[@donaldmerritt1861]

@@jackour8167 Nope, it isn’t.

[@alexlepage9456]

@@donaldmerritt1861 actually nocturne is a really good game