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[@Koko3op]

Dem Jointz DID not produce Hard, it was Juice ... which is kinda worse to so my point about his production choices still stands overall. I dunno how he went from Obsession to Juice but hey! loool WATCH my SHINEE Album rankings here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2S2oJasrrOBg6c JOIN my Patreon for more exclusive content here including the FULL Album as well as other Shinee content (Shinee world concerts and more): patreon.com/koko3op

[@ynjordanc]

Is the album review also available for the olympian tier or only titan >

[@Koko3op]

@@ynjordanc Titan & Mt Olympus since it's over 40 mins long!

[@clandestinecoherence]

like, how did dem jointz do both juice and time lapse…like??? i think he just vibes more with the neos maybe?

[@fuuchan27]

The first time I heard Hard and Juice were actually in the SWCVI concert live. It makes SO MUCH MORE SENSE when you see the live performances of them, which is pretty consistent with the SM Performance concept, whether intentional or not. Shinee has always been stage performers first, and the songs really come alive there. I can totally see where Juice and Hard would seem disjointed if youre only watching the MV or listening to the song for the first time. Overall in the album, all of the guys seemed to have stepped up their vocal game if you can believe it. I def see what you mean by Taemin's singing getting more relaxed, and its allowing him to do really interesting things in this album.

[@Koko3op]

@@fuuchan27 For real, he blew me away!

[@tokki_bunch]

I don't think I've seen anyone mention it here yet, but HARD is basically a love letter to 1st gen Kpop, which SHINee would've grown up listening to. It's interesting to see the disparity between international listeners and Koreans when it comes to opinions about the song - Koreans (especially millennials, lol) are clocking it as a homage to Seo Taiji and H.O.T right away, and HARD's doing very well in SK.

[@blaubird]

yesssss, when i heard the mv teaser i was so excited because it sound like h.o.t!!!!

[@maychecksout]

that makes so much sense! I saw everyone saying it sounds like nct but I immediately thought of seo taiji

[@dheu]

Yes, this is such a 1st gen sound. It’s kind of funny in a way - you can immediately tell which fans started listening to kpop in 1st/2nd gen (or at least which ones have listened to the older groups) and those who have only heard late 3rd/4th gen groups.

[@dheu]

@@blaubird yeah, for me even the MV itself feels like an (updated) homage to some of those older hiphop group MVs, especially the KO part.

[@nyasha7721]

Okay I picked up on this right away! Definitely samples seo taiji and the boys - come Back home

[@michellesCanape]

For me both Hard and Juice are still very Shinee style songs. Hard opening up with a piano as the main instrument is a perfect example of this. Shinee has always been experimental with their style, but the sound is always quintessentially them. I love the album. So far Juice and Satellite are my favs. It's just so good to have them back back back.

[@TheRealIceCole]

Juice is one of my favs too. I didn't realize others wouldn't like it 😅

[@maggot2259]

​@@TheRealIceColeME TOO 😂

[@michellesCanape]

@@TheRealIceCole I watched the Beyond Live, and when I first heard it I knew it was going to be a favorite. I mean what's not to love?

[@marzenun]

Juice is my favourite too! Already in concert I fell in love with this song. The whole album is awesome and all is quintessential SHINee ❤

[@mimichandes]

Hard is so 90's Hiphop. I felt like I was transported to 1992.

[@dianacampos7796]

Taemin said in a show that this time they went for a hip hop style just to proved the point that they can do any genre which in my record yes they can 😌😌 I really like the song to be honest, but I know that it may not be for everyone taste and that's ok ☺️

[@5.55lucky]

they cant since they dont have a rapper

[@hannahstefanina5264]

@@5.55lucky k

[@Doyoungismyfave]

@@5.55lucky they have 2 rappers….

[@whatzuptoto]

I'm the one who spoiled on Patreon. Sorry again. The album is basically a love letter to past and future SHINee and their solo stuff. Key also wanted to do this kind of dance (Hard) and he was so happy working with Beyonce's dancer (Kasper also helped choreograph). Taemin's background is HipHop too... he once missed it so much he applied for a tv special that sent 4 dancers to LA to study and they had to make their own HipHop choreo routine by the end. He had a lot of fun experimenting with Advice and he said Hard felt like an extension. They consider Juice to be their hardest choreo and Key's slight critique of Juice is they can't sing it full live but they can Hard. Juice was SM's pick and the original title. SHINee's was Hard and they fought for it. The comeback special coming out Wednesday will have Hard, Juice, and 10X performances. Key picked Identity as his favorite (it's so Key, not a surprise), Minho likes Insomnia (for tone), and Taemin likes Satellite for lyrics but Minho attributed Sweet Misery to Taemin during the concerts. I'll put this here and on Patreon - Gravity's lyrics include Jonghyun songs. The writer posted about how they're a huge fan of SHINee and wanted to incorporate him in some way. It's incredibly touching.

[@Koko3op]

Yes I enjoyed Taemin’s why not the dancer and I’m glad he’s getting into his hip hop choreo more. I’ll be checking out the concert performances but I’m glad they’re doing a comeback special with those songs.

[@FlorEme_]

11:40 Oh no! SHINee CAN sing and there are songs that you'll definitely enjoy, like "Insomnia", "Gravity", "Identity" or "Satellite". Please give it a chance. It's worth it 19:18 I feel the same! Jonghyun's skills as a producer were the heart of SHINee. I also think that Jinki's absence forced the others to show different sides. Like Key said, it wasn't easy making this album. Hopefully all SHINee members will be together soon ♡

[@evcim02]

Jinki was present all through album preperations, let's not give wrong informations

[@msSweeTae]

Back then I fell in love with SHINee after listening to songs like Get it, Shout out and Get down. I love that they still drop similar songs, like they did with Trigger and Alive or now Hard. And you can tell this is nothing new to them. It doesn't feel pretentious.

[@Sophie-pv4ug]

Shinee started off with this kind of genre tho, but since they’re an experimental contemporary group they keep changing genres every comeback. So hiphop/R&B is not somewhat new to them. Who knows maybe they’ll do jazz or heavymetal for the next cb. Then again, we can’t expect people to like each and every one of their songs. It goes back to personal preferences. Try check out other songs in the album . They’re all great.

[@Siusanne]

I just have to say... I grew up listening to this type of hip-hop and I absolutely LOVE Hard. And SHINee has done this genre of music in their early days so it just brings back memories in and out of kpop for me. Of course, it's not everyone's style so it's only natural that some like it more and some less. But actually, opposite of you, I love the change of the beat and their return to the hip hop roots hahaha I think this whole album is something like.... coming from the past to the future lol And I have to add.... Jjong would absolutely slay in this album. And he would love every second of it

[@dheu]

I’m gonna disagree with some of what you’ve said. I don’t think it’s about SHINee trying to sound younger but them trying something relatively new (relatively because they have done hiphop before). They’re an experimental group, they’ve always been experimental, so they purposefully don’t stick to what they’ve always done in the past. The fun part is them injecting their SHINee sound into different genres, not them always doing the same kind of vocal-heavy R&B tracks. But I get that you’ve got a preference. Juice is harder for me to get into. Hard I was afraid would be harder too, but it has a very addictive beat and I absolutely love their low soft rapping in the chorus. I like it even more than Don’t Call Me. There are more vocal heavy tracks later in the album that you will probably really love.

[@Doyoungismyfave]

This! It bothers me so much when I see people talking about “this isn’t Shinee” or “they are trying to sound younger” when HARD is Shinee through and through. They have been doing hiphop since debut and were supposed to debut as a hiphop group.

[@dheu]

@@Doyoungismyfave Exactly. What IS SHINee anyway? They have done it all from R&B to dubstep to deep house to reggae to hiphop to ballads to rock to everything in between. Generally I've found that when someone says something "doesn't sound like SHINee" what it means is that they haven't heard enough of SHINee's discography to realize that SHINee doesn't have a genre to be pigeonholed into.

[@Doyoungismyfave]

@@dheu what a beautiful way to explain it. ☺️

[@EROGNZ]

❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@neomuneochicken4585]

same for me. Juice is my least favorite song on the album and I absolutely loved Hard right away. same with DCM for me too.

[@ila3647]

Knowing Shinee and how strong and mature they are, I don't think that they wanted to sound younger in this comeback, I don't think they ever cared. They have always maintained their strong identity, even going against the trend a lot of times. Everybody knows what they are able to do, so I just think that they wanted to experiment, as they always do 😊

[@orangejam2645]

I dont think something nice and simple is what shinee would like to offer after 2years hiatus, The Feeling was nice and simple but it's not the title track for a reason, Hard felt pretty right for me as a title track choice tbh

[@Koko3op]

I didn't want nice and simple either, I don't think I said that lol.

[@halane4790]

Mellow is not necessarily nice or simple. But I like that they went for hip hop for the first two tracks even if I don’t love it. To take risks 15 years in while also looking back at their beginnings and the beginnings of K-pop is brilliant. I wouldn’t want them to start releasing safe albums now!

[@fatmanurhidayati5095]

for me i love this song so much because its sound like old korean/japanese shinee + hip hop 2023 + got 90's sound. brilliant!

[@hedgehogsdelima]

I disagree on the rap notion that rap seems younger, I’m a grandmother and rap is older than I am. I feel this album is a perfect representation of what SHINee is.

[@monique2939]

well what can we do everyone has different taste. i Ain't gonna lie the first Time i listened i didn't like it but after listen it many times the song grew on me and now i love it! i love that SHINee try new styles and they are able to pulling off any genre

[@asareirene]

Many times? Yikes

[@monique2939]

@@asareirene like 2 lol

[@maggot2259]

Same it took me like 3 listens to LOVE IT, I already liked it but wasn't all the way into it, but seeing the live performance officially made me love it 😂

[@aur1ta]

@@asareirene sometimes songs that are structurally complex or have unexpected twists take time to understand/get into, i really don't see how that's something to look down upon lol. Appreciating music isn't a one-time experience.

[@katlikethatprodz]

I get that not everyone has the same taste but comments like "this isn't Shinee" or "Shinee just tries to sound younger" annoy me so much because do you all even know Shinee's discography?? People being surprised the contemporary band does exactly what they are described as will never not be funny to me. A group like Shinee doesn't stay relevant for 15 years by playing it safe and sticking to the same stuff over and over again. Just listening to their bsides shows you they tired pretty much everything under the sun even before this comeback. If you don't like certain songs that's fine, just say it and leave it like that but don't act like it is out of pocket when Shinee definitely went there before 🤷‍♀️

[@TheRealIceCole]

That's exactly what I wad thinking!! They keep forgetting that they're contemporary it's legit the whole concept. I completely understand not liking the songs but rudely saying that rubbed me the wrong way

[@HelloHi-ui1sf]

He's just saying his opinion:) it would sound fake if he sugarcoat everything. At the end of the day we're all fans and will support. It's a reaction channel after all.

[@Doyoungismyfave]

This!

[@katlikethatprodz]

@@HelloHi-ui1sf I have no problem with his opinion. If he doesn't like the song that's fine with me. We all have different tastes and when I listened to the song I already knew it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea and that's fine. But staying it's "not shinee" or them "trying to sound young" is just untrue. They are not "trying" anything. People who know the group already said it sounds like old school Shinee or 2010 Shinee. If you don't like the song say it and leave it at that without acting like it doesn't fit their discography.

[@Koko3op]

Actually I’ve listened to all their Korean albums and even ranked them on my other channel and I still stand by comments. Their title tracks have a particular feel Hard does not on first listen and that’s my point. 15 years in, a title track like this is unexpected and “fresher” and I don’t think that’s by mistake and not a bad thing to acknowledge either. Even previous releases like Lucifer, Everybody and Ring ding dong had way more vocal hooks and melodies, song structure than Hard does even though they were quirkier. I don’t want them to play it safe either, that’s what defensive fans are hearing, I just want it to be a bit more cohesive sonically lool.

[@NguyenAn-lm8ex]

Don't worry. Other songs in the album will be your jam 😂

[@fayedorabella]

They always try something new. And key reveal that they supposed to debut as rap group but since they are too young they change it to contemporary band. Wasn't into Hard at first but now the song stuck in my head 😅

[@looloo3607]

Album has been on repeat. Love each and every song. Shinee are the goats

[@blaubird]

the parts where you say taemin's voice has changed, i feel like he is singing with a similar technique as jonghyun's, and in concerts when he covers jonghyun's lines, a lot of times he sounds like that, even before going to the military. a lot of time, in the new songs, i hear jonghyun through taemin's voice.

[@halane4790]

Taemin has come back as a full angel now: looks, vibes and voice are aligned YoY

[@pansy6v6.718]

a full angel😊 love that❤

[@jasminegray2980]

I don't think the song is bad, but I definitely love their R&B songs more. It's why most of my Ult groups are from SM. They lean heavily into the R&B side of music and I'll always be here for it. 1 of 1 will always be my favorite album from them.

[@boldsaturated]

Really. SHINee really good with rnb, retro, jazz and funk. Love so much 1 of 1 album.

[@MegaMina25]

The whole album represents SHINee. It is understandable if you don't like hip-hop; not everyone does, but give the album a chance. There is a track for everyone to enjoy.

[@5.55lucky]

problem is not hiphop. they dont suit hiphop

[@Doyoungismyfave]

@@5.55lucky hiphop is literally integrated in their identity since their very first album…..

[@Koko3op]

The full album reaction is on Patreon

[@dheu]

@@5.55lucky THEY don’t suit it? Or is it just that YOU expect a different sound? Because SHINee has done this type of music before. Get Down and Get It are just two examples. It’s starting to become really clear which people are only “fans” of SHINee’s title tracks and which ones actually understand the full breadth of their discography.

[@princesssunshine79]

​@jinn229 - Tell all of us you know absolutely nothing about SHINee and their sound. They have no genre. They ARE the genre. And those boys have always had their fingers in every single pot of sound. They are hip hip among many other things. So, sit down.

[@elise7493]

Oh man I was also thinking Taemin's voice sounded just a little different but I wasn't sure if my ears were playing tricks on me lol. Adore the OnTae bridge

[@Koko3op]

Yess his voice really has changed I love it!

[@needyverse]

I’ve been waiting for this song from SHINee since 2010 tbh 😂 It’s in their DNA.

[@HelloHi-ui1sf]

Awww yes, jonghyun as a producer is chef's kiss. But you can still feel his presence because of the members. Will support them in this comeback even if some of the songs are not my sound. They're a contemporary band after all:)

[@neeharikasaravana]

It’s everyone’s opinions but I think they wanted to revisit their first 2 albums’ sounds.. which was very hip hop. And it actually does sound like their old b-sides with newer modern production. Juice on digital sounds amazing but with the choreo, its on another level!

[@tidus_1135]

Thanks for your reaction. I found your opinion interesting. I like the edginess and the aggression in these songs.

[@m.k.519]

In the beginning I really was overwhelmed by the songs. I felt it was a bit chaotic, but after listening a couple of times I became addicted as always with SHINee ❤

[@nnnicole10]

I didn't mind Hard, but in case anyone needs a reminder, music is SUBJECTIVE. You can't tell me you love every single song your favourite artist has ever put out, some just aren't your vibe, and yet you still adore the artist!

[@evcim02]

Yes, this!

[@AthieBby]

so true!!

[@snehasaha0854]

Shinee comeback always surprises me.

[@pepsigolda]

i just want to say i really love that you're blunt and don't sugarcoat things. one of the reasons i keep coming back. just like you, i also wonder how they'd sound if jonghyun is involved because i can hear his voice in so many of these songs. for instance, 10X is my most favourite song in this album and it is produced by andreas oberg who also made u need me. i feel both of these songs have a very similar vibe and i couldn't stop thinking if 10X has more layering & overlapping vocals like u need me, it would be a masterpiece (if i'm not mistaken, jjong heavily involved in vocal direction as well)

[@Koko3op]

Thank you! Yeah I agree it’s definitely very similar it’s those harmonies.

[@bea_hae_tae9392]

They always show a different version of themselves with this unique essence and what I love, they evolve with their music. I love rap and melody and the bridge is divine.

[@Skskdksnfkdnfnsmd]

everytime i hear a new shinee comeback i just start imagining about how f(x)’s counterpart would sound

[@SuncloudMashups]

thank you for being a reaction channel that is 1) not afraid to be honest even when when you don't love a track and 2) has some insight to offer in addition to personal opinion. I personally love all 3 tracks but I will always prefer a critical review of a song i love vs one that is just an overexcited act designed to please fans.

[@IAMSHAMii]

if some one really know who's SHINee know why they choose theis kinda song, maybe its deffrent for somebody but for me personally its so SHINee its full of them they try do smt new and for me personaly it works it was really amazing, i hope every one enjoyed and respect them for thier hard working after along time , the whole album is somehow related to all Shine old and new Shine with all the members and their solos and solo works I hope you enjoy it

[@peachyjoon6673]

2:36 my favorite part😢 it’s so old-school and i love it

[@rosy8772]

Personally juice was my ultimate favourite from this album I can't get enough of it. Huge lover of experimental hiphop, thank you Demjointz 🙏

[@whereisja]

Shinee's been rapping since debut so I wasn't surprised by that, this is a sound they've explored before. Hard is a very poloarizing song from what I see people either like it or hate it. I like juice but it is a bit noisy, like i wouldn't replay it but I also wouldn't ski it in rotation lol

[@Koko3op]

Yeah that’s the thing I know they’ve explored it before, that’s not my issue it’s more so what to expect from a Shinee song even when they do experiment. Polarising indeed.

[@viewer1338]

I think its an understandable choice for them to go hiphop bcus dont call me is already such a good comeback so knowing them they probs want to do something new but homeschool bcus that part after chorus and that last part is so seo taji and boys vibe

[@kalpic11]

This just made me realize I like Dem Joint's stuff and that maybe I should follow music based on producers now.

[@Obladioblada95]

10x is soo SHINee sounding♡♡ love it.

[@langelslshadowl]

I can see why some people wouldn't like Hard and Juice, but I love both songs a lot. To me they feel very in line with SHINee's style and it's nice that the album has such a variety of songs to listen to. I'm very picky with rap but I loved both of these a lot after I heard them two or three times!

[@Mslgs99]

Now Mica you should know better than that SHINee doesn’t need to fit in or try to do anything that they clearly have been doing their whole career from when they first debuted. Taemin did say it took them a while to pick a title track and this is the track that the members chose. Please remember they have a lot of say in their music now for a while.🩵🩵 and like everyone said to see juice live was an experience. It is so good live the concert was great. On BeyondLive Key Taemin Minho did a fantastic job they were SANGING❣️

[@EROGNZ]

Desde cuando SHINee hace canciones igual a los demás y a ellos mismos. Siempre son adelantado a su época. Y sus álbumes son artes , igual que Hard❤

[@aureljuju3485]

Shout out to Minho's vocals in this new album... 💯💯 Beautiful!

[@Keke88]

10x is amazing -- this has a flow I can get in my head and groove to. Hard and Juice are different in terms of SHINee works but are more interesting each time I hear them. I think Taemin's voice is more mature and richer // Onew always shines // Minho and Key are the icing on the SHINee cupcakes. Love this group // so glad they are making music again -- LIFE IS GOOD.

[@simphiwinkosindaba1036]

EAT US UP WITH THESE THUMBNAILS MICAH!!!!!!!!

[@Koko3op]

THANKS BESTIE!!! 😭😭

[@XVMatthew]

Was waiting for this. I liked the taemin and onew bridge and Key's chorus and that was it in Hard. Juice was similarly impossible to parse and I started thinking "when are these bitches going to SING" then came 10X and I came back down lmao

[@thesavagenerd5138]

when I first heard "Hard" and "Juice" I felt the same way. I honestly think "Juice" is a repeat of "Don't Call Me" like the structure of the chorus for both songs are similar to me. I find myself wanting to sing "Don't Call me" when I hear "Juice." But, I will say, the rest of the album!!!!!!!!! AMAZING!!!! "Satellite," "Sweet Misery," and "Insomnia" are my fave songs off the album

[@AnaGarcia-fl2pk]

i'm not a fan of hip hop but this song is listenable for me

[@cheerchickw]

Ok so I love shinee and don’t want to take away from them but I just have to say I love your intro and finally decided to listen to fromis 9 and I’m obsessed!!

[@Koko3op]

Haha yaaaay this makes me so happy. Such a good album

[@humblingreality]

I thought similarly about the production after hearing Hard, only to check and not see Dem Jointz listed anywhere in the credits so...

[@Koko3op]

Yes! Please see my pinned comment!

[@Anarchygirl2000]

Hahah well Taemin himself was the one who said he wanted to do a hip-hop title track for their next album so sm didn't force it on them. From what I hear also this is less so 4th gen/more younger sound and actually the opposite and is more like 1st gen which still doesn't make it everyone's cup of tea but interesting fact. I really loved the whole album from start to finish personally.

[@Anarchygirl2000]

@@AA-hb5dw it's not that serious I was only talking about this guy since he thought the concept was forced on them which is annoying considering they can definitely make their own decisions now. No one is ACTUALLY targeting taemin for this and if they are they're a fool. And you assuming my status as a fan based on one thing is just as stupid of an assumption. Yes taemin has a lot of people babying him or not taking him seriously but that's definitely not me. You need to relax lol. But sure I agree that it could have been worded better so I'll change it a bit.

[@unkyungh]

The ending I think is a clip for Taemin a solo. It’s his hand

[@Koko3op]

OOOOHHH

[@ian00171]

Whole album first listen plz~~~~

[@Koko3op]

It’s on Patreon!

[@maggot2259]

I do hear newer gen sound but i honestly think it just sounds like Nct/ SM sound not 4th gen sound. The structure of the song reminds me of some nct song(and maybe because nct does a lot of mixed 90s hiphop too) but it also reminded me of a bit of H.O.T songs and some older SHINee songs like Get Down, Shout Out, Get it, etc. Also i get why u want VOCALS(so did i😅) because SHINee are known for that and excell at it, but they dont always need vocals on vocals on vocals, they wanted something new and maybe wanted a title track that was more simple on the vocals since they have MANY title tracks with difficulty vocals 😂, but HARD did take me more than 1 listen to be fully into it, Hope u react/see the live performance, it might change ur mind hehe, the choreo is very HAWT too 🙊, love your reactions 💕💕

[@hikari1360]

I had the same exact reaction to both hard and juice. While there were parts I really liked, overall neither song does it for me (and at this point I've listened to the album 15 times over so they're definitely not gonna grow on me any time soon). In regards to Hard, it really does feel like they're forever trying to add every single changeup they can and not let these songs breathe at all. I usually love these kinds of chaotic songs, but admittedly it doesn't always work. Hard really reminds me of Super M's One(monster+Infinity) in that it sounds like they took 2 completely different songs that didn't have anything in common and frankenstein'd them together, so it just sounds jarring when you get to the second part of the chorus no matter how many times you listen to it. DCM worked because the chorus was catchy and it was cohesive. And then Juice, I have nothing (positive) to say about it lol I was so relieved when 10x came on and every song after it was just as good if not better. I love that SHINee experiments, and I'm glad they're having fun and still finding ways to change things up 15 years into their career, it's just that this particular concept wasn't my cup of tea. Thankfully it wasn't the entire album.

[@Koko3op]

Thank you! I looove how you explained your thoughts here, the songs don’t get a chance to breathe and it’s frustrating. Shinee had experimented in the past and done it super well too but these change ups did not hit for me. Whew Juice is something lool.

[@wiktoriasz.6737]

To be honest Juice is not fully my taste even if I like hip - hop too, but i fell for songs like Satellite, Identity, Sweet Misery and Insomnia at first listen. Hard is also nice,especially some parts like Key low voice at the end or Taemin smooth voice which is getting better with every year, but I must agree that there is a little bit too much changes is like a few seconds of one part, few second of another part and again some few secons of next part. Overall I must say that is nice to discover diffrent styles from Shinee and i really respect them for that.

[@mariposasabia]

Yes Taemin's voice had a restraint or hesitation that prevented his flow of his vocals to go on smoothly. Yes I agree I come to SHINee for vocals. Honestly even if there was no music their voices can carry a song all on their own.

[@Koko3op]

Yes he sounds SOOOOO relaxed now I love it!

[@mariposasabia]

@@Koko3op me too!

[@luna-kg5jf]

Oh that bit you don't like is actually my favourite 😂

[@ailynortiz8175]

Amo Juice ❤❤❤❤❤, me encantó y su coreografía rs bien hard

[@karinekotokoirie]

Both songs are hard to get into in the first listen. I got into it after the second listening. Now I am hooked. I am biased because I am so happy there are back. I am not into rap at all like you but when it is from any SM groups I “tolerate it” and the only other part where it is ok for me is Hamilton lol

[@wesxvin]

not SuperM tease at the end lmaooo people are saying that the MV storyline is Onew falling into the piano and they went searching for him and it kinda makes sense, there's a cartoon character falling into "oblivion" there, as well. They might continue the story on an album repackage

[@sycy5382]

Omg I was waiting for your reaction !! I was going in thinking you'd either like it, with the anti drop and all, or completely hate it 😅, which would still be fine it's your opinion. But you liked Hard from how you've been vibing to it, right ? I was also confused at first listen but now I'm obsessed !! As for Juice, I get that the beat is kinda Dem Jointz messy but I don't mind it. I think it's quintessential SHINee to be unpredictable from one title to the other, and then gives us everything and more on the bsides. I totally respect the "not my genre" argument bc we all have different taste, but some ppl have been saying it's an "nctfication of SHINee" which I don't think is the drag they think it is, AND not true !! They been experimental with their music since day 1, and it's good that they don't always SANG but still give us great vocals. And of course you would like 10X better 😌. It has that Producer Jonghyun vibe to it, like it could be in 1of1. And I can definitly hear his vocals in this I think it's a great album overall 🩵

[@Lualvarez]

Listen, Hard is probably one of my least favorite songs by them but i understand why they put it and Juice as openings for the album, ao it's fine. Later on they give us songs like Sweet Misery and Gravity. Tbh I'll support them no matter what their next single sounds like as long as they keep giving us great b-side and happiness 😭

[@emilyfinnegan3074]

Totally agree, when I heard Hard and Juice as the first two tracks I was scared the whole album was going to sound like that (I definitely prefer Hard over Juice). Thankfully I feel like the rest of the songs really suited my taste and were more classic Shinee. Shinee did sing for us!

[@archivesunset4214]

shinee didn't miss during this album imo. gave us bops. taemins voice is going through that change that comes with age I think but it's amazing to hear his voice get even better than before. key is owning this comeback energy wise he's putting his bussy into it

[@MindBlinged]

Thank you for your remarks. But SHINee rapping isn't new. This type of song isn't to 'become younger' they are just revisiting what they used to release as a younger group back in 2010 but with more mature skills. You not liking it is different from disrespecting their choices and insulting producers.

[@neeharikasaravana]

I don’t think I agree with the older you get - not singing bit.. cuz Juice sounds like 1st gen kpop so rather they’re going full retro, rather than trying to sound more 4th gen 🤷🏻‍♀️ And they debuted with Replay so it doesn’t really add up for SHINee

[@Koko3op]

But they were young for replay lol. My point is groups that have been in the industry for like 10+ years developing a harder sound which has more energy to convey energy and youthfulness.

[@neeharikasaravana]

@@Koko3op I see your point but most of 2nd gen group (10+ years) songs that have come out recently haven’t been that harder sonically. Take Bigbang, Suju, Kara or 2pm for example. I do agree Hard matches with DCM with the hiatus leading to explosive title track, but they’ve done that many times (2 yr break from releasing Korean music and coming back with Dream Girl + Everybody)

[@EmmaSol94]

SHINee are my faves and I'm okay with them doing some more rap on this, but I've had the thought as well of hmm are they doing it while they feel they can still get away with the concept, kind of like they're doing hard choreography while it's still reasonable? 10x had me sooo happy, it barely started and I was like IS ANDREAS ÖBERG FINALLY DOING A SHINEE SONG AGAIN?? And he sure did, I'd know his songs anywhere.

[@Koko3op]

Haha he has a nice sound!

[@AthieBby]

In fact this album is not an attempt to sound younger, it's actually a way for shinee to make us rediscover their entire discography! They basically wanted for their fans to celebrate their 15 years together with something that showed every aspect of their discography/identity... That's why from 10X to Gravity you could imagine Jonghyun sing to it! But Juice and Hard are a reference to their early albums' rap :) I understand why you don't like it but i personally loooove it !!!!

[@Koko3op]

I don’t think the album is an attempt to sound younger but rather the two “title tracks”. Juice which SM had chosen and Hard which they chose. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that those two start the album and the vibes are “more Shinee” from 10X onwards. Labels always want their artists to appeal to the younger base and pointing that out isn’t a bad thing.

[@AthieBby]

@@Koko3op yeah I see what you mean

[@mary-qu6iz]

I think you don't like to shinee in their hip hop style because I remember you didn't like it either Don't call me. i love hard and juice are jam ❤ i love they try new genres and be able to slay it🔥

[@arthurmedeiros6398]

taemin's part on 10x's bridge felt like it had a melody from excuse me miss jonghyun's bridge right after you said his voice changed am i crazy?

[@azurehickman7524]

It was written and produced by Kenzie not Dem Joints

[@Koko3op]

See pinned comment.

[@ericacella1180]

I personally liked hard a lot. The chorus is catchy and i love the whispering parts. The bridge comes a bit abruptly to be honest but still enjoy it a lot because of the vocal moment but i like this shinee more hip-hop style. It's something that taemin wanted to explore more and I'm glad they are doing it. Except for the abrupt change in the bridge the song doesn't feel not cohesive to be honest. At least to me. And as for juice...i actually like it a lot hahahahahahaah i find the song interesting. I honestly don't think "wanting to be younger than they are" is the reason behind this more hiphop sound. They are a contemporary group and they have been in the game for 15 years. They have to evolve and i feel like they are trying things they didn't have the possibility to try much before. Taemin has shown interest in rapping a bit also in his solos with advice for example. The chorus of hard really reminded me of advice in a way hahahaha I still have to finish listening to the album but there are a lot of songs that could fit more your taste in it as far as i listened. For now my favourites are like it and satellite but i enjoy basically every song of the album

[@AdrienneSky]

Maybe it's me and I know Kpop is a Mashup of styles usually but y have the latest songs been soo experimental like a hosh posh of genres it's a touch confusing so this, I kinda feel the same about ateez bouncy and stray kids latest release. Only songs I've been able to love is Perfume and Kiss by Dojaejung tbh sigh

[@Koko3op]

THANK GOD FOR DoJaeJung. Whew

[@LiaBraedt]

whatever! this song gives seo taiji & boys and also H.O.T vibes 😍😍 it's old hip hop but modernized lol

[@luma4148]

If you want a group that make the same type of song over and over then go listen to another group and I’m not trying to be mean here, I once replied to you on different platform about the same thing but clearly nothing changed so I just don’t understand why do you insist on trying to box them group and the members into limited sound and genres when since their debut and it never happened and won’t happen in future either I know you are exol and exo have most of their songs they play it safe and they know their sound which is mainly straight direct rnb and stick with it but wishing shinee to do the exact same is very weird because they were never that It’s actually pretty fine that you bias Taemin and it’s his idea for having a 90’s hiphop inspired songs and a homage to 1st gen groups like seotaji which is what happening here plus hiphop isn’t new to the group they have multiple hiphop inspired songs like this in their earlier albums so this outrage and hate is pretty weird I do know that you listened to their discography before and hated like 60 percent of their songs because you only like when they do specific genres but again it’s their music and they can do what they want with it Call me harsh or whatever but just you are honest I’m honest with my opinion as well

[@aur1ta]

I love this channel and the honest reactions but I have to agree with your comment about him insisting on putting certain groups in a very restrictive box and getting disappointed when they go outside of it

[@user-dz7fb8oz7x]

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[@LiaBraedt]

You didn't like either "don't call me" right?🤭

[@Koko3op]

Not very much lol but it did grow on me more but it’s not in my top 25 Shinee songs lol

[@deemelange]

dem jointz didn't do hard. idk why ppl keep saying that. kenzi did

[@SM-gz8lr]

I can totally agree with your sentiment on Jonghyun. I love shinee so much but haven’t been able to vibe as much with their last 2 releases. The songs are good but there’s a missing element there and it’s the heart and soul that he brought to their tracks. Somehow I didn’t feel this way about TSOL trilogy (one of my favorite albums of all time). Anyway everyone please support the comeback and let’s look forward to what’s to come in the future as well!

[@Koko3op]

Yess I think it’s because TSOL might’ve had songs that already had Jonghyun but were re-recorded and they left lock you down or he may have been part of the selection process and why it’s such an amazing album!

[@halane4790]

Definitely check the album out. The first two songs are the most hard hitting ones, the rest is quite mellow. More rap heavy than their latest, but definitely vocal. Hard is sneakily growing on me tbh, but I think I will never like the middle part. Juice just sounds boring.

[@BoosBucketHat]

I agree with your comments on the the production melodically but i didnt really mind the 90's hiphop inspired 2nd part chorus. It felt fresh to me, something Shinee hasnt really done. The production in some parts sounds a little overplayed and old, especially for SM songs. I really liked the the harmonic part after the digitally altered "HARD" but found the "HARD" to be a bit jarring. We also have to consider their circumstances... As Shawol know, they had a hard time with Key saying "It wasn't easy making this album". All the love, thanks for the reaction. 💛💛💛

[@Koko3op]

I hear you! Thanks for this comment ❤️

[@kristinejxxv]

I’m sorry but how long has this reactor been following SHINee’s music again?

[@evcim02]

I am not fond of the rap chorous at all I think taem being into hiphop and Kibum with strong songs are the reasons we ended up with heavy rapping on the album compared to their previous albums(think about advice and gasoline) Circle and chase were more melodious and emotion heavy albums They are vocally gifted singers and rap is not their strongest forte. I hope this is a phase and we'll get to jazzy or acoustic phases in the future too

[@puujeelkhagva8575]

need to sort out that vocal production. Hybe has weaker vocals but they sounds nice. it's all about production bro.

[@user-ss3pp6wt9m]

Thank you so much for your raw reaction ❤️ And im staying behind your commentary about the songs and the album because Hard feels more like sm (nct ahem) song than Shinee(tho i enjoyed the chorus ) and Juice was complete miss for me ;; But x10 and Feeling deff on repeat! I just wish in trying smth new approach it would be treated more like Everybody where edm blends with Shinee flavor. Nonetheless excited for the comeback and seeing boys having fun enjoying themselves is all i need ahaha hope for Onew recovery soon and excited about this little tease at the end of Hard mv

[@91vampy]

I don't like Hard and Juice that much either. The rest of the album is more my taste, especially Satellite, Sweet Misery, Identity and Like it.

[@ravenarceneaux2283]

Hard sounds like an nct127 song😂

[@fuuchan27]

only as much as nct127 recently also did a 90s hip hop inspired song

[@Doyoungismyfave]

Hard sounds like a Shinee song. Shinee we’re making experimental hiphop before NCT was ever even thought about

[@ravenarceneaux2283]

@@Doyoungismyfave i'm sure it does

[@blaubird]

it sounds closer to an h.o.t. song tbh, but still Shinee through and through.

[@ravenarceneaux2283]

@@blaubird yea i'm sure but it reminds me of nct 127 i can't put my finger on it tho🤔