Shiny Pokemon Give You An Advantage In Battles... Here's Why.

Shiny hunters were onto something.
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[@MarshtompGames]

"I don’t know if Greninja is Protean or Battle Bond until I watch inside the box." "I run Torrent." "Shut up."

[@dedd2981]

Schrodinger's greninja

[@kubix426]

@@dedd2981 Schrodinja

[@amistupid3175]

​@@kubix426schrodingle

[@vanesslifeygo]

word lol

[@Bruh_idk69lul]

​@@kubix426nah bro schrodinja runs wonder guard

[@jurischwarzer9877]

You also don't want to run shiny treasures of ruin or any of the Gen 9 legendaries, that will get you disqualified

[@badashe1364]

I’ve heard Meloetta also gets you disqualified

[@user-ye2gv1xy9q]

Because that would be hacking lmao

[@user-ye2gv1xy9q]

@@badashe1364you can’t use it

[@okami_6]

@@user-ye2gv1xy9qthat’s the joke

[@latbil]

@@user-ye2gv1xy9qyou know they’re joking right?

[@risel56]

_"imagine this is anything that isn't a level 4 Rattata"_ Imagine a level 3 Rattata, got it

[@novastar6112]

FEAR teams go brrrr

[@waterslime9506]

Lvl 100 rattata

[@anglure3617]

I remember another thing about Ash-Greninja: It was always set to be male, so if your opponent sent out a female Greninja, you'd know it couldn't be Ash-Greninja

[@yoptrippin]

I always wondered why but my theory is when it changes it’s form it’s called ash greninja probably bc it’s ash’s name in it and ash is a boy but this theory doesn’t make sense at all so😭.

[@packyp3836]

​@@yoptrippinI'm pretty sure it's because it's literally Ash's Greninja and Ash's Greninja is male

[@cracuss31n52]

​@@packyp3836 also Im pretty sure all battle bond Greninja is from a gift and the ones thats given is male only. So basically it's the same thing as shiny gen 9 legendary. Hacked pokemon being not eligible.

[@yoptrippin]

@@packyp3836 yea makes much more sense tbh

[@ellisfrancisfarros3935]

"Gender gives you an advantage in battles... here's why."

[@HeliumHasPassed]

I mean if you selectively breed a Pokémon thousands of time just to get funky colors i would think that the stats at least good

[@BigDeetz]

Whatever sickos breeds pokemon from the same family should be ashamed, or running a poke-mill to generate eggs. You need to source your competitive fighting pets from only ethical breeders or else you'll end up with a shelder that looks like the one on slowbro. Why else do you think it looks like that?

[@eli2210]

Bruh just hack this game is ridiculously stupid when building teams

[@hailthequeenFM]

The shit is something I wouldn't be surprised if it from PeTA.​@@BigDeetz

[@BigDeetz]

@eli2210 it's a lot easier now too, which is the funny thing. A good video could be the most ridiculous competitive pokemon to get of all time. Immediately, I think of mew, deoxys, celebi, and Jirachi, which were so mythical at the time some kids didn't even know they were legitimately in the game

[@_friedtofu]

The key point here is that shiny hunting is completely optional, the game does not require you to have a FULL ON shiny competitive team, its purely aesthetic with some niche advantage here and there.

[@CommanderWiggins]

Shout outs to Gen 5 VGC, where everyone ran definitely legitimate shiny Pokemon who also just so happened to have perfect IV's and optimal natures in the era before bottle caps and nature mints.

[@Zython11]

What are the odds?

[@PlushPilla]

Also with the pokestar effect for more stalling

[@AztecCroc]

@@PlushPilla There was no point stalling in Gen 5, the timer didn't exist yet.

[@DanielPereira-ey9nt]

​@@AztecCrocand even if there was a timer it wouldn't matter because the pokestar effect replaces the shiny effect

[@DanielPereira-ey9nt]

I am of the opinion that hacking in a mon is okay if it can be obtained without hacking Not everyone can play pokemon as a full-time job

[@wellywell1064]

9:15 Oddly enough, it was possible to get shiny shadow pokemon in Collosseum and is why they are used for the All ribbon challenge

[@bubs4581]

In Colosseum shadow Pokemon are the only Pokemon that aren't shiny locked and it's the other way around in XD.

[@GamingEelektross]

When they made Colosseum they made the Shadow Pokemon's ID numbers random, so if they matched the enemy trainer they could be shiny then. The problem was that they also needed to match the player's own numbers or else theyd go back to being not shiny. By XD they wrote in code to shiny lock them.

[@s.p.pennlight7299]

@@GamingEelektross False, actually, but a very popular rumor. In order to be shiny the pokemon needs to match your ID, but due to a bugged shiny lock it reads the enemy trainer's ID and will not appear to be shiny in your first battle. You must catch it to reveal its shiny-ness, and if it was shiny it will sparkle on a rematch battle, though by that point its stats and shiny-ness are locked in. There is no chance of a shiny pokemon becoming non-shiny, unless you are the demonstration battle Hitmontop, as its stats are re-rolled after said demonstration battle. There are a nice collection of shiny hunters who have videos up on this, nowadays. In XD, the shiny lock was fixed, and there are no shadow shines.

[@saxor96]

@@s.p.pennlight7299 A little bit of wrong info there too. Hitmontop's first fight always counts as a rematch, their stats are always generated in the fight against Pikachu. Also, in a rematch, the game takes the enemy trainer's ID to see if it's shiny or not, but only while it's in their posession, so a Shadow Pokemon that isn't shiny for you can be shiny for the enemy oponent in any subsequent rematch.

[@TSfish94]

Funny story about shinies in coliseum, I actually got a shiny sunflora not knowing why mine was orange. I thought it was wilted so I sent it out in the rain to see if that changed anything 😂

[@giovannirocket9954]

Fun fact: due to a programming oversight in Pokémon Colloseum, it is possible for your shadow Pokémon to become shiny after you catch as the mons OT number would be overwritten by the player's OT number. While it was fixed in XD Gales of Darkness, it's still a fun tidbit

[@mysterymann4225]

Not quite right. As I've come to know it the reason shadow pokemon "become shiny" in colo is because the PID/SID for enemy trainers is used in battle versus the player PID/SID. Once captured and the PID/SID of the player will apply and will reveal the pokemon to be shiny. I believe it is possible to encounter a shiny pokemon on the enemy's side on colo and when caught it will not be shiny for the same reason, but I am unsure.

[@videogamesarecool9280]

@@mysterymann4225you can catch shiny pokemon in colloseum. you are correct that the trainers shiny and the player's catch shiny are different roles, so if you catch a shiny, it wont be shiny after you catch it, but there is a shiny role for the player catching a pokemon, so you can only see if a pokemon is shiny after you capture it, but you can very much get shiny pokemon in colo. someone did a whole challenge run on youtube to get every shiny in the game, lots of rng manipulation

[@mr.punisher5100]

Shiny hunting Tatsugiri is like hell, especially when you have to squint your eyes everytime you see one to see if it's shiny. Personally I don't think it would be worth it

[@TheForgidbearbackers]

Just breed it

[@mr.punisher5100]

@@TheForgidbearbackers 🤯

[@omarjimenez6861]

I guess hunting for the orange one would be hard, but if you hunt in outbreakes (each form gets a unique outbreak to them) then the pink and yellow tatsus should be easy. an orange one between yellows should be the shiny, and pink is more obvious with its shiny being white

[@The_Legendary_Nic]

And if you’re going for a wild one, they can sometimes carry Memento

[@mr.punisher5100]

@@TheForgidbearbackers 🤯

[@butlershurk7227]

Everyone knows you run Celebrate Vaporeon to run out the clock

[@blockchicken8052]

Did you know?

[@nightdazernoneya7993]

😢

[@DishyLemon]

​@@blockchicken8052know what?

[@hash8169]

“celebrate”

[@cadetjones9205]

Pokemon fans try not to reference pokephilia challenge. (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@vinny4765]

Before I even watch gonna guess: Stall teams, shiny sparkles taking up time, HP left.

[@sylvrwolflol]

That was my guess, too, which is why I didn't bother with the video initially. Then they brought up bluffing event 'mons so you can pretend like you have a certain moveset/nature and that was actually a really good point.

[@nathaniel5157]

"They must have amnesia, they forgot that I'm shiny locked"

[@E-102GammaMKII]

A +2 in Sp. Defense.

[@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989]

This shine ain't nothing to me 'mon

[@nathaniel5157]

@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 I'm a dog. I'm BITEing the psychic types in the bath.

[@vla1ne]

Ballin so hard they thought I was a voltorb.

[@nathaniel5157]

Flipped a whole naclstack into a garganacl

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

10:17 whoa who's that haha

[@kvltofsobek90]

"Jealous" As if 99 times out of 100 that team isnt entirely genned

[@MoxieBoosted]

I knew that opener would russle some feathers

[@Sovereign_Star]

People would think my teams are fake but they just cant comprehend someone putting work into them

[@kamijk]

@@Sovereign_StarThis is code for “sweatshop,” right?

[@caseydewitt6236]

I've been working on my shiny mons for over a decade 😭

[@DarkDodgers]

​@@Sovereign_Starit's a hard job. One that you'll only need to do at most 3 times per pokemon.

[@AevitosTrath]

I think that everyone should run shinys so that they can be distributed

[@user-ye2gv1xy9q]

People just hack them in anyway

[@randomviewer396]

​@user-ye2gv1xy9q That's not really the point.

[@Ghostmnm]

Shiny galar birds (except zapdos) is comedy gold if it somehow works

[@WhermstDidIAsk]

I've seen shiny Galar Moltress troll TF out of people on showdown.

[@totallynotademon...6929]

Fun part of using full shinies is I assume my opponents just think im using hacked mons and don’t know how to play. Especially on casual lololol ^^’

[@1_KingDom]

Same 😂😂 and I even go the extra detail for apriball shinies but theyre all legit. Perks of being a vgc exclusive shiny hunter, no time sunk on a living dex just boxes of battle ready shinies

[@theman6422]

“You’re using hacked mons! You should be banned!” My brother in christ, I like the color palette

[@TheAweDude1]

For Gyarados, there were other ways of getting Bounce. In Platinum, Gyarados and Magikarp could learn it via move tutor, Magikarp could get it from the Pokewalker in Gen IV and Dream World in Gen V.

[@MoxieBoosted]

VGC doesnt allow transfer moves

[@rjd-kh8et]

It's also a Tutor Move in ORAS and USUM.@@MoxieBoosted

[@mordecoolbluejay]

Btw did you know that greninja cant have battle bond if shiny?

[@TheOlSlacker]

It can't be female too, that means Greninja is unviable if it's black or a woman

[@alienxotic5028]

@@TheOlSlacker 💀

[@creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049]

brooooooooooooooooooooooo@@TheOlSlacker

[@sylvrwolflol]

@@TheOlSlackerYes hello IGN? Boy do I have an article for you...

[@sapphiix]

the advantage shinies give is that they Look Cool and therefor I Hit Harder for real though thats super cool something thats just cosmetic does have that small upper hand (or detriment) to em in high comp play

[@groudonmario]

This man must be an Ork player

[@adamabou-nasr1130]

Ah, Pokemon mind games. Will never forget the first time my best friend hit my Mega Venusaur with a fire attack. It has Thick Fat but still pops up that "it's super effective!"

[@SirToastyToes]

You could tell if the shiny beast doesn't have event moves if it's not in a Cherish Ball in later generations

[@thatflareon]

surprised you didn't mention that in gen 2 because of the way shinies are generated shinies are usually if not always worse than the standard counterpart

[@PrismaAce]

thats bc theres no vgc in gen 2

[@toastymann5865]

I love your PFP haha

[@twosoup3252]

Listening to you talk about niche Pokémon VGC facts while the logic theme from persona 4 plays is uniquely entertaining; big fan of this style of content

[@SpooxyCowboy1911]

love this channel. ever since i subscribed i grew to 6'2

[@MoxieBoosted]

I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess

[@Agent-iq3sz]

I went from 2” to 6’2 as well! Oh and I guess I grew taller too

[@jaesundahlke6082]

I paid to be in the outro and it was worth it. Jokes aside, i love your essay content and am so glad my contribution helps you out and all the content i love. Keep it up man!

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

One I remember from reading a smogon analysis is that Genescect must always be shiny. An event distributed a shiny Genescect with shift gear, a potent boosting move. This was good enough set to even be part of one of the recommended sets, as opposed to a choice scarf set which operates entirely differently (boosing sweeper vs momentum pivot), making this one of the most important mons to have as a shiny (outside Greninja, of course).

[@floaterhill1848]

I love that you popped off, I’ve been here since you had like 3k viewers per video. It’s great content and I’m glad you’ve had success!

[@wyattstout342]

Shiny rayquaza was unable to have V-Create, that’s the only other example I can think of

[@gregorymirabella1423]

Good thing nature mints let us use shiny koko. Still mad that the removal of transfer moves means heatran lost eruption. Just one gen after it could run it with a timid nature too.

[@murkrowyeet8484]

7:36 I mean, to be fair, he also has a Charizard Y on the table

[@OsirusIrdia]

For the gen 2 trio in gen 4 singles, there is an important note you glanced over. The shiny optimization for Suicune and Raikou (and Entei if you don't want adamant nature) have suboptimal fixed natures. Suicune has relaxed (negative speed) and Raikou has Rash (negative sp. def). So if you want to bluff Aura Sphere Raikou, you have to run rash nature instead of something like timid/modest. The reason for this is that the trio were only given out in a Cherish Ball. There are no legitimate ways of getting a shiny non-rash Raikou in a cherish ball in gen 4. In the games you can see what type of pokeball your opponent uses for each Pokemon. So for VGC you have to run rash Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere. But the issue is that Smogon (primary place for gen 4 singles) does not show the ball of the opponent's Pokemon. This is a problem because it means you can run a shiny Timid Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere and it is indistinguishable from an event shiny rash Raikou. This means in singles, there is a FALSE OPTIMIZATION. This optimization is still a thing but it is a weaker optimization. In the real games you can use a shiny Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere but it MUST BE RASH. In smogon singles, you can run a shiny Raikou with any nature to bluff Aura Sphere. This is an important distinction that must be made because currently Smogon allows an optimization that does not exist in the real games.

[@Iris_Descent]

No way, Ranger contributing to one (1) Pokemon's viability. This is why Shadows of Almia is truly the GOAT

[@sundersquare]

7:37 "undoubtably." That ain't a word man :D lol

[@cbuttyvgc]

Babe wake up new vid goes hard

[@yech3461]

another one that didn't get mentioned was shiny genesect which released through an event with blaze kick and extreme speed which weren't available to genesect otherwise (blaze kick later became available to all genesect in generation 8)

[@enoyna1001]

Mythical Pokémon usually aren't allowed in VGC

[@Count_Istvan_Teleky]

Moxie I like that you acknowledge the existence of Smogon despite being primarily a VGC player. Unlike someone else that pretends it doesn’t exist and is inconsequential because it’s not “official” despite having millions of games every month

[@MoxieBoosted]

I honestly can't think of any vgc players that don't also play smogon tbh. So I got no clue who you're referring to

[@emeraldl1on]

About the Johto beasts and shiny Gyarados if you pay attention to the ball animation when it’s sent you could immediately tell if it an event one even if shiny because they were all distributed in Cherish Balls.

[@atrixmj]

Shiny moxieboosted is a really pretty pink I saw it with my own eyes once

[@carlosgonzalezvega3294]

In a some similar way, Zeraora normally wasn't used in his shiny form, due to it being only obtainable in Gen 9, so it couldn't have the tutor move Knock Off, something that a Gen 8 Zeraora could have

[@ZhadTheRad]

Uhh… last time Zeraora shiny was obtainable was in 2020, through a Home distribution from a raid battle event. That was in Sword and Shield. Besides, Zeraora is unavailable in Scarlet/Violet and can't be transferred to them either. It can literally only be used in Gen 7 and 8

[@SeonilKim-ry5lj]

0:51 Poor Gengar. He deserves a better shiny color.

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

At least the mega form looks awesome and is getting it back.

[@looksfineforme9471]

Actually the shiny colour is great, the issue is that the non shiny colour got so desaturated in 3D that they now look so similar. If regular Gengar would still have this popping purple then it would be an insane shiny

[@luigiopaf9994]

For ones like the shiny legendary beasts or the shiny gyarados, you can't actually use just any shiny, it has to be another event one, as they'll be in the event exclusive cherish ball, if they are in any other ball you know for sure it's not those specific events Just thought I'd mention it

[@BDra7]

Dude the music in this! First you use the gambling sound from Simpsons hit and run and then you put meteor herd from sa2b. You're the goat

[@ZakZwald]

Bounce Magikarp was also obtainable on the Winner's Path on the PokeWalker. It has a bunch of other special pokemon, but sadly was also only distributed through an event.

[@scottcrysel]

Currently cleaning up on ranked ladder with my shiny entei from gen 4 that i've brought forward for years. Mints/hyper training have done wonders for old event pokemon

[@dilliondantin]

Blood with the Charizard plushie is a menace and I love him for it

[@th2112]

I remember there was one heatah fajita video where cte was forced to run shiny genesect so he can use espeed, so he made the entire team shiny to hide it

[@goomyiscute777]

Shiny Blacephalon (and Smeargle, I guess) get a special animation for using Mind Blown. Doesn't change anything other than the ball being blue instead of white, but it's pretty cool.

[@Fyoozhen]

I still have my original copy of the entei raikou and suicune, it’s so cool being able to use them again in vgc even if they ain’t the best. I used to think it was so cool having sheer cold and suicune and I remember some of my friends being jealous of me in middle school 😂😂

[@JordansoBASED]

9:52 Haven't seen the famous Wolfe's hacked/generated Raichu in a while. I remember watching that Raichu use Endeavor live lol. I was like, "No waayyy" lol

[@Jacket4231]

Wasn’t wolfee’s raichu a reward for the pikachu cup back then? Pretty sure there’s an entire vid abt it lol

[@Jacket4231]

Albeit it was distributed as a pikachu

[@LouX453]

It wasn't hacked, it was just the WORLD CHAMP DIF BABYYYYYYY !

[@rjd-kh8et]

Gyarados has been able to learn Bounce via Move Tutor since Gen IV, so I don't see how that event distribution changed anything.

[@SlashDeath9990]

Transfer moves aren't allowed in vgc that's why

[@Cleffr]

So you're saying that Greninja would not be optimal if it was black or a woman

[@BenjaminAnderson-zp1ex]

Just like real life

[@PKshockwave]

The persona 3 test music tho. Great vid too

[@ricsouza5011]

In the generation that shinies debutted - gen 2 - shinies were actually sub-optimal since they needed to have a specific set of IVs to be shiny, and they werent the maxed out ones. People called maxed out IVs 'perfect pokemon' and shinies werent perfect.

[@cinnasauria]

Rayquaza is another suboptimal shiny because it signals that it doesn't have the absurdly powerful V-Create, which was given to a Japan-only event Rayquaza. And in formats where it's legal, it's better to run shiny Genesect since it got Extreme Speed and Shift Gear from a movie distribution.

[@shadowguy128]

Something I want to point as well is that For generation 2 with how hidden power was based on stats along with its shinyness. A shiny Pokémon would always have hidden power grass or dragon at either BP 49 or 69

[@gaster000]

Shiny galarian legendary birds can really mess with someone's mind.

[@joonas394]

If they get confused, they straight up deserve that

[@jul1us787]

You make the greatest Pokemon videos

[@shinyflygon8883]

In gen 2, being shiny told your opponent some of your IVs.

[@nicosledakis7452]

This is a great channel!! I hope you get to make some longer videos in the future…

[@jesuisunstroopwafel]

Fun fact: Tatsugiri's Shiny forms, like its regular colors, are also real types of sushi. 🍣

[@enoyna1001]

Who would have guessed?

[@SeaOtter420]

With all the new nature mints you’d think the shiny’s that are nature locked could be changed and therefore become even more hidden weapons because they’d expect the original and get the competitive version

[@mystik_owl]

I get where you're coming from, but it wouldn't happen to anybody other than mega-nerds specializing in other formats playing absentmindedly or distracted by something else, and would result in a pretty funny twitch clip, but unlikely to amount to anything more

[@tomas_crusader1756]

7:28 i love the more psychological aspect of competitive games especially outside of the game itself

[@nightmare3642]

I decided to imagine that level 4 Rattata was instead a level 1 Paras.

[@valiantchris6456]

Missed opportunity to make a "All Shinies Are Hacked" joke in the video.

[@nicholaslogan6840]

Fly in the Freedom best SA2 track CHANGE MY MIND

[@Aigle662frileux]

Ofc

[@Dizzy-Luc]

When I learned that as of Gen 9, you can't transfer Pokemon from earlier generations that have "special" moves they'd normally not have... (I got a shiny Mew that took a while to get Fake Out via Gale of Darkness, then transferred it up from Gen 3, only to find out after Gen 8, they *take away any special moves given to Pokemon*) Same thing happened with Lugia via Gale of Darkness too (if you transfer it from Gen 3, up to Gen 8 it's fine... but going to Gen 9 they take away Psycho Boost) Really sucks though since, while I know Mew isn't able to be used in VGC, you can't have it with Fake Out in doubles in Gen 9 due to this removal. (no idea why they made this change except to make it so that "everyone has the same playing field") Makes even less since due to Mew being the Pokemon that "learns every move" but then... taking it away lol...

[@memetan_24]

Landorus incarnate in gen 7 monotype and ubers couldn't be run shiny as at the time the only way to get it's hidden ability was through dream radar which was shiny locked so by running a shiny you where telling them you has sand force meaning the set was physical as apposed to sheer force sets that where mixed or special attackers

[@Tlaloc1]

iirc, an example you didnt mention is in gen2. you never really want to run shinies since they have a stat disadvantage due to the way that shinyness is determined in gen2.

[@Sol_Calibre]

The plushie mindgame lmaoooo 😅

[@deckblackwing]

I shiny hunted all 3 versions of tatsugiri with 0 IV Atk, just beacuse it is a Sp. Atker. I just refuse to have sub optimal mons 😂

[@celestialwish1478]

"Who would bother going for the shiny Charizard X amiright?" > Me, liking Shiny Zard X better than regular Zard and Charizard Y's shinies. That shade of blue-green/teal is my favorite color. It contrasts really well with the bright red and I love it. It also feels- very vaguely since the colors aren't exact- like a Salamence reference. With the blue-green and the red. Also because Salamence's regular form is Blue and its shiny is Green.

[@MayVeryWellBeep]

Shiny Galarian Moltres is great on low ladder for the way if bluffs being a fire type

[@kenc6569]

The opponent can also just watch the pokeball animation, if its cherish ball theyll know it has special moves

[@joshuapope6563]

I am definitely going to be trying for as ll of my competitive teams to be shiny. The extra tilt might win you the match.

[@Lungdis3ase]

Started Pokemon X in the New Year. Been taking my time raising diverse teams and Pokemon I've never used before. Really taking time to explore and talk with npcs. Z-A IS ANNOUNCED, get the super rod. Go back to route 3. Instant shiny Gyrados. (Naive, nods off alot.) I named her Lucky.

[@bubs4581]

Technically it doesn't even help to converse information to run the shinies. All of these event Pokemon come in cherish balls so running a shiny to conserve the information of what moves you can have was literally worthless if your opponent was smart enough to watch the ball when sending them out unless you had the event Pokemon itself. I've heard about people shiny hunting Gyarados in 2017 because they thought it would help them and it's very silly how much time was wasted for NOTHING.

[@MoxieBoosted]

The opponent needs to check for the split second the ball in the air. If they're busy writing stuff on their notes or just not attentive this matters alot

[@bubs4581]

@@MoxieBoostedAnd if they're playing optimally they would check that.

[@Nurylon]

Oh this is such a great point. If someone is seriously researched and experienced enough to know what moves a mon can/can’t have based on it being shiny in-the-moment, they’re obviously going to be attentive enough to make sure they watch the ball animation.

[@takenname8053]

Never knew about this for shinys!

[@metrothered]

I recognized every song in this video. I think they're under SEGA these days. Great taste!

[@purplebeach3145]

Love the editor

[@JordansoBASED]

I forgot how awesome Greninja's shiny was! That Ash-Greninja needs to return! The new Battle Bond ability is ight

[@ericstelzman5190]

We might get to see it in PLZ.

[@celarts5752]

I just like running shiny Pokemon cause I hunted for them and they're my babies

[@AgentSapphire]

I ran shiny pokemon in gen 8 because I hoped people would check my team post game and notice the gen 2 mark and excessive ribbons on my shiny lugia.

[@SquiddyJohn]

Tapu Koko did eventually get a shiny event in Gen 7 that could have any nature

[@sipp8741]

honestly surprised gen 2 didn't get brought up.

[@TheRedScizor]

Couldn't they just tell based on the ball they were caught in? Like if your shiny Suicune isn't in a Cherish Ball that's a dead giveaway.

[@MoxieBoosted]

Only a split second to check so you get an advantage in game 1 likely

[@exocutionn]

I’m making a Tinkaton team and I’ve decided to get a shiny, because if I’m going down, I’m going down in style

[@thomashost272]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Gen 2 at all. I don't think there are ANY tournaments for Gen 2 these days, but still, shiny mechanics for Gen 2 meant Shiny Mons were inherently at an advantage, though I'm not sure if anyone knew that back then or if that was a modern discovery.

[@RikkuEcRud]

Greninja was my first thought seeing the title. Didn't realize it's never been VGC legal though. Kind of hoping Legends Z-A brings Ash-Greninja back, I don't really like the one-off stat boost Battle Bond was changed to in SV. Even if it has to stay VGC illegal, being a pseudo Mega is _so_ much cooler.

[@everettw.9610]

Another set of shinies that can trick people who aren't that good/aren't paying attention is the shiny Galarian forms of the legendary birds, especially Galarian Moltres. Since all threes' shiny colors are just the color schemes of the Gen 1 birds, if someone isn't paying attention then they attempt to hit your psychic/flying galarian articuno with a normally neutral fighting move, just as one example. Galarian Moltres is the best one to do this with just because Zapdos and Articuno have very distinctive postures in their galarian forms that make them a lot more difficult to mess up, while shiny Galarian Moltres looks practically identical to normal Kantonian Moltres

[@Berzrking]

To everyone that takes the time to breeds for egg moves, breeds for perfect stats, and breeds for shiny. There’s a reason we make it to masterball every ranked season we play, anyone can pick up a hacked Mon. But they can’t fake our dedication, See you in the next regulation, you deserve to be there ❤️❤️❤️

[@MoxieBoosted]

As someone who does everything you said and doesn't hack: Bro chill it's not that deep lmfao

[@bigmonke3348]

Couldnt you tell the beasts apart by their cherish ball?

[@MoxieBoosted]

You only have a moments glance to tell

[@tristanalain9239]

I feel lonely as the sole fan/lover of Shiny Zard X....

[@CoilCannon]

I’ve sold my soul and a lot of my time to shiny hunting. To my detriment, a lot of my comp mons tend to be shiny. But hey I guess it’s not as big of a waste of time as I originally thought (Still pretty substantial though. I’m addicted to sparkly things)

[@PassionWorker13]

Gonna run an all Shiny team of exclusively Slowbros and Slowkings lol

[@jackthepokexpert4207]

Feel like it should also be mentioned for all Gen 2 mons since DV's determined stats and shinyness and no shiny had perfect DV's

[@nikgokuhil]

Even in pokego its advantageous You can often confuse people with things like scyther/shiny scizor or considering how sucky the game can be on some machines, you can actually freeze someone's game or make them lag if you throw out a big shiny pokemon

[@ashemabahumat4173]

You could actually manipulate mons in Colosseum and XD to be shiny once transferred iirc, its just that the shiny property didn't exist in-game. But, the way the game manages and stores mons' data makes it possible to to become shiny in other games. Similarly, the "genes" for a square shiny can come through in gen1 transferred mons and onwards. It's all mon and trainer I'd shenanigans and a consequence of them reusing code across the generations

[@YOM2_UB]

Shinies do exist (and some Pokemon have wildly different palettes in those games), but the Shadow Pokemon were intended to be shiny locked. They're properly locked in XD, where only the non-shadow Pokemon can be shiny, but the locks were faulty in Colosseum, locking the Pokemon to the opponent trainer but when caught they might be shiny for you. Trading has nothing to do with it.

[@ashemabahumat4173]

@@YOM2_UB I see. I didnt really say anything about trading specifically, tho

[@YOM2_UB]

@@ashemabahumat4173 You said "to be shiny once transferred" and that "the shiny doesn't exist in-game" which gave the impression that a non-shiny Pokemon could become shiny once traded to another game.

[@ashemabahumat4173]

@@YOM2_UB well I treat transfering and trading as different things since the idea is to migrate them to other titles versus simply trading with your friends in the current gen. I wouldn't think the later would change anything. That said, in gen1 that's definitely how it works on account of DV's. But if I'm wrong here then I'm wrong here.

[@AI-DreigonGPT]

4:08 Can't have Entei in *insert the state of ur choice here* 💀

[@Cochu]

Based Splatoon music 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@murkiri]

i gotchu

[@Cochu]

@@murkiri Goat