Ship Yard Welding Procedure

Mancub is doing a flux core welding test that is used a lot in ship building. Instead. of doing the same old test, we decided to step it up and see if Mancub can beat the Arcair automated arc gouger.
We're going to start with welding out 3/8" plate using select 730 gas shielded flux core wire and the ESAB rebel 285. After it's all capped out, we will flip it over and arc gouge the backside. We will do 3 feet by hand ar gouging and 3 feet with automated arc gouging.
Let the best man win!
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[@Welddotcom]

*By request* - here's the depth gauge from this video: amzn.to/2CP2gaC

[@glauckoma2713]

loosen your rollers some I can see those grooves in the wire ;)

[@pauljensen9295]

@@glauckoma2713 you're supposed to see them on flux core/dual shield.

[@glauckoma2713]

@@pauljensen9295 small grooves are okay but too much pressure can crush the wire and mess it up

[@phiksit]

Flat weld like that in a shipyard... you'd probably be using ceramic backing tape with 100% CO2 shield. No back gouging necessary. Or even a single pass with ceramic tape and subarc.

[@00xYamahaRacer]

1/2" thick weld test for the shipyard I'm at.

[@shermrock345]

Love how this channel shows everything. Shows what happens in real life. Mistakes lol and how to fix them. I don't care who you are you makes mistakes. May not like to but we all do it. It may not look like some of us do because we fix them before we let it go out the door. It's good to know that if something gets out of whack when you are fabing or welding that it isn't the end of the world.

[@fhurlburt6532]

I welded back in 1971/72 in the Beaumont Tx shipyard, we used DC welder with jet rod we had to burn 100 lbs of rod per shift.

[@keithjohnson281]

Dude now you're talking!!!!! I had to burn 125 to 130 pounds of FCAW- wire a day on the San Mateo Bridge job in the Bay Area around 98'

[@janeblogs324]

3:56 wow you can see the grooves from the knurled mig rollers

[@everlastgenerator]

Awesome demo mancub! You're getting better everyday 💚

[@darrensamuels1511]

Great video I have only air arc gouge by hand never seen one of those machines it definitely lays down a nice gouge. I mainly use the air arc on mining jobs in Australia we don’t get all the flasher machines. Thanks mate you did a good job.

[@tomt9543]

Absolutely the best close up welding shots I’ve ever seen! Very good!

[@debayumukherjee7057]

Beautiful Weld mate. The machine's 1/4 inch weld was so clean. It was a pleasure to watch

[@kennystroner7431]

at 6:00 in I can see your two plates bowing. I think in a hurry kills us all! I am not the most patient person. See my previous painting jobs and not giving proper drying times. I had the same problem with making my small welding table. 1st time it was pretty bad. I cleaned it up and got my quarter inch steel down after cutting it with a grinder. Even after that in the end one of the pieces bowed just a little. Still worked out anyways. I was pretty impressed that my Hobart Handler 140 was good enough to make 1/4" x 6" x 18" steel actually lift up! I just bought the welder 2 months ago. It was my 2nd project after welding my hollow tubed metal chair back together. Besides safety being number one, fun is a close 2nd! Thanks for the video!

[@IppiopaidFEEDBACK]

I never realize how technical welding is. Thanks to KZbin, I now know a little bit about this trade!

[@ethandallmann1363]

Most of the time it isnt

[@simplyorange8553]

Great video, thanks Mancub! Gouging is so much fun!

[@mrtfrompv]

ManCub - your best work yet! Great explanation, a bit of humility, and showing us how to fix a mistake (fit-up). Thanks!

[@maxxvozzelli172]

Here from Newport News Shipbuilding making the Navy’s Nuclear Powered Aircraft Carriers and Subs. We run Pulse Arc MIG, carbon arc all joints and Pulse Arc the back side. We bevel with cutting torches and carbon arc rods. Thanks for the content!

[@bassmaster229]

We did something similar on the rail road in tank car repair UTLX. We weren’t allowed any power tools. Chipping hammer and wire brush only. No arc or chipping hammer marks allowed outside weld area. Test was done on 7/8”x 12” test coupons. Gouged first side 75% of metal thickness, weld, flip over and repeat. Over head vertical and horizontal. Then it was sent for X-ray. This was the process we used for tank structural inserts.

[@petermccuskey1832]

IAs a 67 year old welder I learned a lot. Thank you for you time.

[@toolbox-gua]

Mr. Mancub, I son’t care what the others say about it, you are just a plain good guy, and your videos are just asngood as the others.

[@rezjawnwatson5211]

“ tools make you money & save you time “.... I HEAR THAT !!!! 👍🏽

[@cheifmooseknuckle87]

Look at the back of the scarfing rod when manually doing it to is a night and day difference

[@olesammygrant]

This dude is awesome, I wish i had a half dozen like him on my crew

[@TreYay83]

Stop hiring friends and family. Should be scouting high scoring students at tech schools

[@olesammygrant]

@@TreYay83 You ever experience how hiring works a huge shipyard? When HR is hiring 500-1000 people they very quickly start scraping the bottom of the talent barrel. Then they switch to hiring anyone with a pulse and train them from nothing

[@cyberry813]

@@olesammygrantyeah, then in 3 or so years they do a mass firing of 3-400 people ,, wash rinse and repeat, this is shipyards since the beginning of time process.

[@cbartlett7284]

Do this all the time in my structural steel shop! Instead of trying to set a specific depth just watch for you slag layer may have to make multiple passes but it will look much better. Also you could have used a smaller carbon rod to get a little tighter groove with the air arc.

[@MrJuicer88]

Love your videos. Looking into working in a shipyard so this is helpful

[@ypaulbrown]

Ya done beat me, dang

[@JonDingle]

"You got to know how to fix your mess up" a fine quote of the day because it applies to a lot of things!

[@ryanwilson20111]

I worked at a shipyard in San Diego for 3 years and when doing fit-up a vertical bulkhead or flat deck we would lock the ends of the unit with a two foot block weld. Both sides. And that keeps the gap from closing or opening up during weld-out

[@mikethomas6408]

Never seen a gouge on a track before. Good stuff & enjoyed the Vid.

[@Welddotcom]

It's an impressive process

[@akbychoice]

You can mount lots of things to track machines, they are just carriers with speed control. Subarc, MIG Welding, Plasma Cutters, Acetylene or propane torches ( both for cutting or pre-heating)

[@el-on1ot]

This kids more character!!! Good content.

[@jasonwinback]

Gouging on the video goes like psssspsssspspssssss. In real life it goes more like the sound of a thousand lighting bolts going off

[@FranktheDachshund]

The sound of a lot of air moving.

[@darrensamuels1511]

Lol I was just explaining that to my wife I always used ear plugs and ear muffs.

[@jacko4483]

Once years ago my friend and I at work had an evil plan. Every morning the buzzer would go off at 6:30 for work to start. Guys would filter out of the break room to their places, clean their glasses, put on their gear, finish coffee..... We decided that at 6:30 we'd turn on the air arc and keep gouging the 3/4" plates that we were on the day before. We were not very popular for a couple of days 😆😆

[@jwboilermaker]

I was thinking the same thing. The should have had the mic close to the action.

[@kristianskov4841]

WHAT!!?? Say again........???

[@Theweldingmillennial]

Interesting you used a single bevel in the 1G position when D1.1 specifically says its not recommended. Definitely important to address the potential for lack of fusion along the square edge. Looks like you did a great job keeping that wire pointed at the square edge and adjusting your work angle slightly to get good fusion. A lot of beginners bust out on this type of test because they under estimate the difficulty of the square edge. Great job!!!!

[@PanzerChicken69]

You do realise that you can actually SEE true your weldinghelmet, right? 🤔

[@JeremyC-ti4kn]

Knowing how to fix you mistakes staying calm during the test and not giving up when you make a mistake will get you through most test I see a lot of people give up when they make a mistake and don’t think there going to pass even if you don’t it is free practice and opportunity for you to ask questions and get better

[@ypvs9196]

I was a welding inspector,some forld are just likes that, very beautiful weld mate 🤣🤣👍

[@Cory-lk5bu]

More shipyard videos would be awesome need to know what im getting into

[@seanlowe4557]

Huntington Ingalls industries

[@matthix7403]

I work at Huntington Ingalls. Structural welder

[@raymondblacklock]

@@matthix7403 ...I just sent a resume to there for a structural welder position. What's it really like?

[@danielmartin531]

You guys got the big jobs👍🏻 I work at ESG in Florida. Either way this is a good vid 💯

[@ronbest5798]

love your stuff mate from a kiwi welding in Aus keep it coming 🤙

[@thisdj83]

I remember air arc. Now I just do it with a plasma. Cool feature.

[@mikecurley2072]

Great camera work . Awesome video .

[@ypaulbrown]

Would like to see this done after a Foster's Oilcan Mr Mancub!!! Well done.... keep the good work going. PB

[@mancubwelder7924]

Thanks

[@pdean6907]

have a breath or 2 man cub... its ok just a camera bud. good work

[@ypaulbrown]

Outstanding Mancub!!!

[@Gkruze]

Nice welding and hard labor pays off in the long run. I the Shipyard on 32nd St San Diego’s navy installation shipyard, NASSCO Gen DYNAMICS 12 weld code tests plus they added 4 more tests including ceramic backing ; ceramic makes a remarkable machine weld, looks like a silver bead of dimes. $100 a day if you passed all three days and plus pass the fire training class. I worked shipfitters and ship Repair’s main yard dry-dock

[@Slouworker]

It hasn't paid well in a long time given the stagnant wages

[@jimwright1148]

We used to make a "Y" Piece and hook up 2 500 amp machines and was like a knife through butter,and looked like a machine finish,the higher the amps,no slag to chip off!

[@kennethdodds2323]

Mancub, you are becoming more polished in your presentations--good job.

[@madcapmagician6018]

nice video thanks for the info. you mentioned ship spec... is this it ? 1/4 inch back gouge?

[@DCweldingAndArt]

"Is that smoke I see over there, Cub? What'd I tell you bout sparkin them spliffs in the shop." Haha the inspector didnt seem nervous AT ALL. The Hyde to your Jeckel 🤣 play inspector more often so people can stop complaining bout your nerves lol just messin brother, great video my man!👍

[@keithjohnson281]

You only fire up tspliff's in the parking lot when you are first learning

[@craigwilhelm7335]

Great job bud!!

[@jarrettmcmillan712]

Can we get a review on the beveler

[@TheMatizyahu]

This scene when Mancub is removing slag from weld was almost pornografic :D

[@clayhudson8892]

Mancub penetrates some rock solid steel

[@ASAPJermz]

@@clayhudson8892 🥴🤣

[@nekkedwelder6980]

Yeah I loved watching him penetrate. When he gently rubbed her straight bead with his hot hammer, I came so hard I had to empty out my leathers.

[@ASAPJermz]

@@nekkedwelder6980 You dirty 🐀

[@TreYay83]

I used to maintain rail cars. We cut stuff off and weld new stuff on all the time. Flux core everything. There's nothing more satisfying than finishing a weld and seeing the slag pull itself off at the beginning of the weld

[@Jrez]

Air carbon arc gouging is a lot of fun.

[@davidusry5048]

This is what i do at work everyday. Huntington Ingalls Industries Pascagoula, MS building Navy ships. We use ESAB 71T1 .052 wire dual shield with 100% CO2.

[@welderboy13]

You in the shop 😴

[@davidusry5048]

@@welderboy13 Unfortunately im not. Im on a freshly laid hull still on blocks.

[@jacko4483]

Is the 100% CO2 better for heavier parts? I thought 75/25 was what I've used, but it's been a while. Although I have a nice Miller 350 Pulse that I haven't used yet for dual shield....😁

[@welderboy13]

@@jacko4483 just used compressed air bro

[@keithjohnson281]

man oh man that must be like welding with a pencil and those rolls must weight two tons apiece.

[@Nate-uf3kw]

MADE IN CANADA ! nice job man cub really liking your videos

[@Welddotcom]

Thanks for watching

[@GOAT_GOATERSON]

I LOVE CANADA

[@frozenbutter3936]

Yoo what kind of gloves are you rocking in the video I need something like those thank you!

[@melgross]

Great. As far as I’m concerned, you won, by personality alone.

[@budiwitjaksono3207]

Can we use for back gouging of circumferential seam of pressure vessels? The circ seam will be rotated on rotator and we put the gouging torch on a stand/ holder instead of on rail.

[@tomayrscotland6890]

Excellent demo lads. Tom in Ayr Scotland....

[@retiredwelder]

I’ve asked a few channels but nobody seems to want to do it. One of the test at the ship yard I worked “bath iron works” was a double bevel no landing 1/8 inch gap ceramic backing vertical up with 0.45 100s hard wire pulse arc mode. Not allowed to touch what comes out under the root pass on ceramic side. It has to be a perfect weld. But you can grind on your fill passes on the front side but not touch your cover passes. I’d really like to see you guys do this plate. We used 95/5 gas. 3/8 plate🙂

[@retiredwelder]

I typed wrong. 3/16 gap 1/4 inch plate

[@krunalkapadia2299]

Where can I find current and voltage settings for different electrodes with different diameter,in ASME or AWS??

[@norbas0381]

Whats your air pressure? for me you need more pressure as much as the compressor has and the graphite electrode should be 1 inch shorter and cutting should be easier.

[@user-bd6go6pf4f]

Hi! Can you guys show please how welding armour steel?

[@LifeOfSy_]

Is there a benefit to using a plasma cutter with a gouging tip over a rod?

[@yeahbro4280]

This is the most efficient way to weld plate because one the speed so much faster second is the amount of weld filler is cut way down compared to your typical 1/4 in gap with a backer I always scratched my head when I was at places that used backers just to also gouge the off takes way longer this is the way

[@tomherd4179]

Nicely done, thanks. At best one could tie with the machine.

[@akbychoice]

Ceramic backers are great for this joint.

[@alexanderlouis4801]

hi... im just wondering what the stick welding machine using that copper type rod? my 1st time seeing a machine using those kind of cooper rod

[@kylemcclureazadsalahazadi6529]

"The true and practical definition of experience is knowing how to correct mistakes.". -Kyle McClure

[@snaplash]

Wanted: a fume extractor that automatically follows the arc.

[@topanteon]

Think that could be done pretty easily

[@CTSCAPER]

What is the fix if your weld is over 1/8" proud on the V-wac?

[@tomt9543]

You’re back to sweeping the floor!

[@byron3373]

Are you supposed to hold that depth gauge at an angle or 90 degree to face ?

[@wemcal]

Great video, super great video!!!

[@tapioca7115]

Mogee wins again. I tried to win against it ripping tubing to make chocks (giant hollow wedges )...yeah. Good welding Mancub ! You guys' camera crew really know how to work their magic.Their "travel speed" is spot on !

[@jordanmasse2954]

Arc gauging sucksss you do well I worked at cs wind in canada I used to keep the stick out like 2 n half inches and I pointed the stick out more out on a 20 degree angle never had anything to scrap on edges

[@NRGDiesel]

Nice work. One thing win measuring depth the tool looked like it was slanted to the face of the material. That will throw off your reading.

[@Ali.g.97]

Is there air running thru the gouge rod??

[@MrBooojangles]

I'm just a hobby welder, using it to fix my machinery and stuff. I use a stick welder with 6013 weld rods. I guessed that ship welding was technical, but that was massively technical. A couple things I want to ask though. I always get metal warping, even if I clamp it and do short runs, then when I finish and take off the clamps bam and it springs out warped, but I notice you tack welded those bridge shape plates on the back, does that stop warping the metal? Second thing is I notice you did long welds without stopping. I always thought you don't do that because it would heat up the metal too much and distort it?

[@himynameisjeff]

Yes, that's what the bridge shaped plates counteract. Without those, the weld would cup the two plates toward the weld, and as he mentioned in the video, the material expansion still ended up opening his root opening because it wasnt tacked closely enough. Hope that help

[@MrBooojangles]

@@himynameisjeff thanks yes. Can i also ask you, is it easier to weld with a Mig welder then a stick welder and do you get as much warping with Mig welding. It's just I mostly have to weld steel of 2mm to 8mm, but I notice guys using a Mig welder on car bodywork seem to be able to weld that thin stuff with no problem.

[@benreed4918]

I did not read any comments this may be in here. But try looking behind the rod. When you get to sound material you can see a faint line where the filler meets the steal your welding. And you can see any porosity or slag trapped in your first pass!

[@weldingtroop2179]

Great Content. Thx

[@jarradhansen5626]

Can yous do a review and a thing to show people how to run and use a straight plate oxy cutter

[@craigr7976]

Cool video , but i have been TIG welding in Aseptic / Pharma for 15 years..... Why the Gouge? Why not create your own atmosphere and purge weld ( like food process pipe ), Bevel , turn welder up , fill her up with good penetration? Not saying what you did was wrong , i know its correct, i just don't see the need. Loved the video, always wanting to learn!!!!

[@michaellastimoza1753]

I hope all shipyards follow these "by the book"" procedures... In reality, it is a different game out there. cool video!

[@SPANKmusicofficial]

Jesus dude you’re a great welder! RELAX! Speak with intention and slow DOWN. I used to have the same problem where I would get so nervous I would speak without breathing. It’s not you it’s your breathing!

[@SH19922x]

Wheres old bloodbeard at? I hope hes resting and not pursuing high piracy

[@thetexorcist2235]

This is solid gold

[@s.weldingandfabrication4287]

A lot of NAV SEA 248 also uses this same kind of procedure for "full pen welds". where I work we weld assemblies for the reactors on the virginia, columbia and ford class ships and subs.

[@s.weldingandfabrication4287]

@@joejoe8455 South east Pa?

[@s.weldingandfabrication4287]

@@joejoe8455 okay, no we are a sub contractor for newport news and electric boat. we work off of a lot of 2550-500 code

[@keithjohnson281]

What is a full pen weld? Do you mean a complete joint penetration groove weld?

[@s.weldingandfabrication4287]

@@keithjohnson281 yes, in the codes that I work to it is written both ways.

[@christianhurlburt8436]

Got the same hood

[@glenndwyer5786]

This guy is good.i can do a good weld but im not a welder.im a machinist.there is a huge difference between sum1 that can weld and a welder

[@DonnyBwelding1]

Back gouging is so hot right now.

[@Welddotcom]

So hot 😂

[@kimchiwelder8410]

Hi, This is 🔥Kimchi Welder🔥 who is uploading welding videos in Canada. Thank you for the informative video today.👍👍👍👍

[@bkingtz1]

Which type of TIG AC/DC welding machine you recommend for TIG beginner welders? I have experience with MIG but wanting to buy TIG for some small project's and Aluminium, SS etc. welding at my mechanic shop? Of course I don't need worst chinese type which will fall apart in a year, also is there any good combo with plasma cutter?

[@mikethomas6408]

I bought a Hypertherm 45XP. 3 phase 20 amp plug so I run it off the welder on my truck. I'm in Australia and always try to buy the best and this Hypertherm is absolutely unbelievable. Wonderful technology from the USA. It cuts, fine gouges, heavy gouges, engraves and with the Flush Cut Nozzle/tips it bends the plasma arc 45 degrees so you can cut flush. I am SO HAPPY with this machine. Worth every cent.

[@bkingtz1]

@@mikethomas6408 Thanks man, really appreciate it.

[@hamiddahman8271]

The best channel

[@maddogs4526]

Cheers boys...

[@Skeezik1998]

Hey man cub, is your dad okay? Haven't seen him in videos for a long time

[@jamesbec9224]

Slick with it

[@ypaulbrown]

Would like to see just how far the arc gouge sparks are flying.....and also the decibels....

[@Welddotcom]

Loud and far 😂 We'll get some wide shots for you on Fridays video

[@jacko4483]

I make sure I've got about 30' of a flammable free zone minimum!

[@Skeezik1998]

Maybe I'm just stupid, but I never understood how the air is passed through the electrode to gouge the metal. Could someone explain that to me please? Thank you.

[@aaronready8195]

The air doesn't pass thru it, it blows behind one side of the rod so that you can control the direction the slag goes to push it out of the grove otherwise it would be an uncontrollable mess

[@brocktuma2743]

Awesome video. Though I think you need to cut back on the caffeine lol

[@knightrider1545]

Overhead arc gouge and grind

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

Next time I build an aircraft carrier, you'll be my first hire as an inspector/weldor. If your schedule would permit a year or 4 on the project, of course. (Does anyone else still spell the welding operator "weldor" or an I behind the times?)

[@akbychoice]

Jeffry Blackmon people either don’t know the difference between Welder the Machine and Weldor the person or they don’t care.

[@sourbrothers73]

Weld or.... or what?

[@jamesj.7750]

Of course a machine will do better on a table with a nice straight weld joint... that occurrence doesnt happen very often though. And if it does, just butt the plates together and sub-arc em. Youve got a good gouging hand though, that takes a lot of practice. I would say i wish i was skilled at gouging but that shit sucks lol

[@beachboardfan9544]

Why carbon arc instead of gouge with the plasma cutter? Is one better than the other?

[@Welddotcom]

A lot of places are using more plasma these days. We need to be play around with it a little more.

[@mg110695]

Less high frequency in a shop environment

[@beachboardfan9544]

@@mg110695 What do you mean?

[@Jus4ya]

Anyone got a link for the depth gauge tool

[@Welddotcom]

amzn.to/2CP2gaC

[@QuangHuy-wp9hl]

How I can buy a gouging machine? I living in Viet Nam .

[@randymack1782]

any talk on the torch welding that once was done? yes ships, 1 of my grandpas talked about doing it, then after a close call, came back to rural area to live. I would guess very early to mid 1920's then I had a welding teacher that was in his 70's in the 1980's & he talked about torch welding ships in his youth, he pushed torch welding hard, plus when I took auto-body, late 1980's, my dinosaur teacher a different teacher than welding teacher, wouldnt allow any welding process but torch & lead to fill gaps, or just metal finish, so even today I prefer torch, but love seeing old torch work. its such a dying art.

[@reymartculta9972]

hello there... new subcriber frome philippines...

[@bcso_bodycam]

@weld.com wheres mr bob moffett? Can we get him to come do a special appearance soon?!?!?!?