Shishiro Botan Tech Talk - Botan's Opinion on a few things【HOLOLIVE】【ENG SUB】

[@sweetpotatodesuwa]

Ah yes, Botan Tech Tips haha

[@solidcroft]

yes please!!

[@Rawwad_zeo]

Who’s this Linus guy we have botan

[@nooblangpoo]

But she hasn't dropped anything yet.

[@TakeshiMitsuhide]

YET

[@serinahighcomasi2248]

Lioness Tech Tips

[@furensuko]

There is something so funny about Botan, a giga chad PC gamer girl being in the same generation as Polka, a circus girl with potato PC.

[@Jeridiculous]

Poltato PC*

[@miredmind]

Well, you'd obviously give beef to the bigger creature so, 5 million gram beef PC for the lion and poltato PC for the fennec fox

[@PerciusLive]

So far from what I've seen with her other streams is the shes using the: Case - ROG Strix Helios Mobo - ROG Maximus XII Extreme CPU - Intel I9 10900K Cooler - ROG Ryujin 360mm Rad RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX (speed and size unsure)

[@nocturnal0072]

@@PerciusLive Jebus, that is king of the jungle for sure.

[@YataTheFifteenth]

@@PerciusLive Holy fuck that's an overkill setup. Well, not really but still.

[@ShinkuDragon]

ah yes, the holy four. politics, baseball, CPU's and religion. never ask, never tell.

[@beansoclock8748]

Botan's just talking about her PC and stuff and the chat is having a war about Intel vs AMD

[@Ersdown_Liberia]

Not just CPU honestly. PC in general will get people into arguments until they're united fighting against console gamers.

[@tribopower]

@@Ersdown_Liberia Seems about right lol

[@ShinkuDragon]

@@Ersdown_Liberia i just went with the same words botan said, i could've said sports instead of baseball and it would've been more accurate too.

[@Ersdown_Liberia]

@@tribopower oh no. No offense though. It's just in PC people fanboy about everything.

[@submarinecatdraws1079]

"... don't think air cooling is quite up to the job." Noctua would like to speak with you.

[@fredhopratama9835]

I mean if she doing extreme overclocking

[@Azurekiteful]

@@fredhopratama9835 No daily consumer or even pro ones do extreme overclocking. Only competition or hardware tester do extreme oc and it's usually with liquid nitrogen. The benefit of using AIO water cooling is for the looks and it doesn't look bulky inside your case.

[@fredhopratama9835]

@@Azurekiteful yes I know that, what I mean is there are a lot of good air cooling that compete or even do better job than AIO, if she doing not a light overclocking then going AIO or even water-cooled system is better choice than air cooling, but she said that water-cooled need regular maintenance and she kinda hesitant to go full water-cooled and thanks for the comment

[@nekotofu_official7665]

Most people I know who use AIO is happen because they want their PC didn't scream like a jet engine. Or yeah, because they think AIO is better even though they didn't do overclock whatsoever.

[@hibatyolian2967]

it's i9 10th gen we talking about, those bastard can suck up to 200w with turbo boost 2.0

[@YarugumaSou]

As soon as she mentioned Intel a war broke out in the chat. And hey she's using the same ram as mine

[@M4TTYN]

damn dudes never can be civil huh? omg to no one should be a bias fan boy but man some get triggered so easily. hope pro intel ppl won't lie that AMD has intel destroyed with Ryzen *bet some would of course* as intel having delay's after delay with their *word lake* line man their naming scheme is funny also funny AMD dropped bikes if i had $350 i'd cop the one with orange wheels to ride out mask on too. $350 ain't that bad of a price too shame US only

[@SakuyaFM4]

@@M4TTYN I used to be an Intel guy, too, but their high-end stuff got way expensive, and running AMD Ryzen fit my bill more as I don't have a second PC to stream from. I also use this PC for other things like encoding, video editing, and 3d rendering, so multicores help so much.

[@indiexanna]

Too many people forget that Intel is far more marketed in Japan compared to AMD Overseas, we watch people like Linus, Dmitry, Jay, Steve, Kyle, Austin, Paul, etc explaining stuffs in great detail with perspective Doubt the JP people watch them

[@thetruestar6348]

@@indiexanna that is very true intel has been around longer than AMD so they have more of the market as well and AMD has been rising up in the last couple years. Honestly the competition in the PC market from what I've seen from getting into it in the last month has been really good.

[@tkmisere7591]

@@thetruestar6348 Intel and AMD have 1y foundation gap, but intel had better funding, and most of 2000s cpu improvements are from AMD, includinh x64

[@betrangustama]

She just "Dropping things" away from becoming HoloLinus

[@astienyusuf7428]

instead of LTT it becomes HTT

[@brunozarate6231]

@@astienyusuf7428 A nice K-ON reference, oh yes...

[@astienyusuf7428]

@@brunozarate6231 wait...no i didn't mean that HTT but yes you can use it

[@theodiscusgaming3909]

@@astienyusuf7428 It can be Lioness Tech Tips

[@astienyusuf7428]

@@theodiscusgaming3909 or BTT as long U dont put "U" between B and T

[@KazumaSensei]

I can’t even afford gtx970

[@3npitsu992]

Oof, with this shortage it ain't worth it

[@hunterzx77]

good times are coming, just wait a littler longer if you still havent bought a new gpu

[@gachaharemseries2029]

@@hunterzx77 or you can get Intel and Ryzen's APU's

[@flambelk4489]

The fact Botan has such extensive of knowledge of PCs makes her a god-tier hololiver

[@KC-bg1th]

The fact that she is talking about AIO instead of Noctua coolers is a sign that her knowledge is just enough to have somebody build a computer for her. Her knowledge is above average, but it’s definitely meant to be part of her appeal to seem like an ultra-nerd.

[@vyor8837]

@@KC-bg1th ya... the 3080 is a terrible buy right now. And intel is lol.

[@aciancone7913]

@@vyor8837 well yeah especially since nvidia now only sells the 3080 and 3090 at best buy exclusively

[@vyor8837]

@@aciancone7913 and with rdna 2 coming

[@kekwait7959]

@@aciancone7913 man for example in russia you even now can find gtx 3080 for 700$. And for this price it's amazing thing. So look wider, not the whole world is USA/Europe.

[@Zerobloodify]

I understand NOTHING about PCs. But you bet your ass I am going to pay full attention to Botan talking about it.

[@M4TTYN]

basically was on about GPU's (graphic card) mainly Nvidia's 3000 series to then CPU (central processing unit) to many get heated on the AMD Vs intel debate as with the iOS vs Android goes too. but AMD has CPU's covered intel been having delays i'v heard Ryzen is amazing new Desktop APU (Accelerated Processing Unit) or a CPU with dedicated graphics on it or IGP (integrated graphics processors) since you won't need a GPU until you get one the ryzen APU are great for low cost PC's new one's coming soon will be just as great

[@stiimuli]

She was spot on about everything she talked about except for maybe a little confusing language about CPU overclocking and maybe selling the 30xx series graphics cards a bit short. It was quite impressive to hear, honestly.

[@Zerobloodify]

@@M4TTYN I am a fucking neanderthal when it comes to tech lol but thanks for explaining

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

@@Zerobloodify The misconceptions that they were dumb is because they were prehistoric hominids (or hominins according to this new nomenclature), well they were cavemen, if they were dumb so were the homo-sapien sapien

[@Zerobloodify]

@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I think a neanderthal would understand PC tech better than me tbh. Or any prehistoric hominid.

[@bongotoucan7913]

7:51 yes that’s what the 3090 is, it’s the RTX Titan of the 3000 series, if I remember correctly Nvidia even said it. The 3090 isn’t meant for normal gaming, it’s more for heavy 3D rendering and jobs like that

[@Epsi1ong]

Yep, Nvidia went ham on the cuda cores in the 3090. The card was pretty much made for productivity

[@PropaneWP]

The only exception might be for hard core flight sim setups that run 3 or more screens. Seems like you need more money than brains to buy a 3090 for gaming. The new cards have hardly been tested yet, though. We don't really know what they can do.

[@bongotoucan7913]

Propane as I said, not meant for normal gaming. Flight sim isn’t a game, it’s an actual simulator, not one of those haha funny simulators either, a serious simulator

[@napiski2260]

Or if you want to play on ultra settings w/ ray-tracing at over 120 fps (maybe DLSS 2k to 4k as well) For "normal gaming" it's an overkill, but for "High fidelity"/"realistic and immersive"/"High-end VR" it's a good card, but still expensive.

[@Invizive]

@@napiski2260 3080 is enough for high-end. The biggest problem with 3090 gaming is that by the time you need its superiority it would already be a bit "worn" and perform worse.

[@trstmeimadctr]

shishiro is both right and wrong about cpu's being overclocked nowadays. the manufacturers make it very easy for you to do it but they usually don't do it unless it is a special edition. overclocking inherently means running a cpu past what is recommended to keep it viable to not lose money on RMA's from running it to death at its limits. also i feel bad for the translators, especially the people live translating in the chat. you have to know english, japanese and computers all at once

[@gwusan]

I do know

[@gwusan]

but I don't know how to use the turbo boost

[@Quickshot0]

Technically some of the modern turboboosts are a kind of overclocking as well, especially on the Ryzen side I think. While it's possible to still squeeze a bit more out then what those systems do themselves, you certainly would have to know what you're doing. For instance by under-volting the CPU, so the CPU auto-clock system gets some more headroom to work with.

[@ClokworkGremlin]

Yeah. All CPUs these days will automatically upclock themselves when they're running a low-thread load(Turbo-boost), but the --K suffix on Intel chip model numbers means you can also tell the system to normally run at a higher base speed(overclocking). If she's relying on turbo-boost for performance but not bothering with manual overclocking, then she doesn't have a reason to buy an unlocked CPU. [edit]Oh, also, all AMD CPUs are unlocked. They treat it as a standard feature.

[@unnamedshadow1866]

the problem is that the CPU she has goes so hot at stock speeds that you technically can't overclock it. This is why people are moving towards Ryzen, more energy efficient and the amount of Cores means you don't really need to Overclock it.

[@leeo1893]

i don't know, maybe i could be wrong but Botan talking and "explaining" (trying to) about the whole PC hardware and stuff joyfully, makes me think that maybe she doesn't have too much people to talk about that and she's really enjoying to share moments like this with us. I really love her.

[@dork6132]

thank for dedicating your time to this translation. the streets needed this

[@ando5723]

I really like nerding out on these tech talk clips haha

[@FengLengshun]

"2080 Ti is fine" Yes, it's fine now especially if you took them off of those people who sold it at bottom price. I am legit surprised she doesn't use Noctua fans though.

[@kayabutter2883]

My wild guess is that Noctua prolly wouldn't have much of a presence in Japan. Either way if you're not already a Noctua/Cryorig air cooling enthusiast (I am!), the default recommendation these days for high-TDP CPUs are going to be AIOs.

[@gato23]

noctua has only in recent years selling fans not in that gross ass brown beige color.

[@hibatyolian2967]

those AIO cooler (ryujin 360) comes with noctua ippc, and for this case going AIO water cooler is wise choice for i9 10th gen rather than TOTL noctua cooler (those sucker can suck up to 200w)

[@theodiscusgaming3909]

@@hibatyolian2967 The noctua NH D15 is on par with 360mm AIOs.

[@shinyhappyrem8728]

With 3xxx generation being so attractive, many people will upgrade to an RTX-capable GPU. Which will entice game developers to release games that really use RTX. So if you plan to invest into a system that can play new games as they're "meant to be played" for the next five years, 3xxx is probably a better choice.

[@lulo0044]

I want a 3D live with botan assisting another hololive member building a pc

[@Necroneer]

Everytime I watch these Tech talks I feel like a filthy casual.

[@solidcroft]

yea computers are some type magic as far as I know

[@earlofthefallen444]

Same, i were very casual in choosing any part of my pc, as long as i can play my games without lag(?) Its fine

[@indiexanna]

That's how Lamy feels when she heard this kind of tech talk

[@SuperSohaizai]

Well most people don't care and don't need to know so it is totally fine, just knowing the computer parts will probably get you far enough (unless you want to go deeper)

[@bastion8804]

Well, that's because you are. jk

[@endox4851]

Lioness Tech Tips

[@ronggurabrahamsimanjuntak5538]

"I'll be fine with 2080 ti" Me and my laptop with gt 640 m: (poor noise)

[@beansoclock8748]

hey, building a proper PC can be done for under 400 now

[@synapse0]

Well, to be fair gunning for a 1070 or 1080 now should be pretty cost effective. If you intend to run most modern games with high settings it will do the job without issue. If you want to go for something stronger a 2070 super is pretty great, and will run heavy games at max settings for several years. It'll probably drop in price significantly early into 2021 too. The weird crypto mining boom over gaming gpus has died down too.

[@ronggurabrahamsimanjuntak5538]

@@beansoclock8748 you underestimate the poorness of a college student with no income still living with his parents.

[@passingbyguy]

Mine gtx 640m too.. i feel you..

[@HongKongPhooey89]

Fret not, dude. Save up your pennies and, hopefully, by the time you have around 500-600 dollars, part prices will be lower and you can make a great entry level pc.

[@Dhime]

This is why she's got so many subs already... She's one of us. While I can adore and admire other Vtubers, I can totally relate to Botan. Genuine wifu material.

[@ayekach.4051]

Don't forget she even likes fps games

[@afelias]

Thank you Botan for being the voice of reason. 3090 is the 30-series Titan equivalent. It's not for people to play games on, unless they really just want to throw a wad of cash down. It was never meant to be performance-per-price friendly.

[@brownchair2698]

I know you didn't say its a titan. But its not a titan. Just to make that clear to those who are reading this.

[@NatsuHoshiyomi]

Thank you for the translation XD

[@YhelloWish]

Imagine she collab with Linus tech.

[@stiimuli]

Damn, she knows her hardware. Much respect, lion girl!

[@vyor8837]

no she doesn't lmao

[@RR-uc1wb]

@@vyor8837 She knows HER hardware.

[@patootie3529]

@@vyor8837 sure

[@Ohnyoclips]

When you buy over spec pc but end up playing alone every game *Friend Last Online a year Ago noises* ಥ‿ಥ

[@Meonium]

Laugh in Among Us free Android version

[@uyk765]

0:55 "The people buying 3090 are probably true fans or more like the hardcore people" I totally agree with that. The 3090 wasn't made for gaming purposes only. It's for heavy productivity like 3d rendering. Unless you're a hardcore flight simulator fan with 3 or more monitors on your flight sim setup, then a 3090 is a reasonable choice.

[@ArchusKanzaki]

3090 is made for gaming.... For like 4-5 years in the future. If you bought that, you could skip the entire generation, just like people who do buy 2080 Ti can kinda skip RTX 3000 unless they somehow really need to play 4K in 144 or something. Also 3090's price is driven way up since it has way too many memory that is not useful unless you really wanted to game on 8K. Expect a 3080 Ti or 3080 Super which will definitely not have that many memory and targeted more into 4K-only.

[@brownchair2698]

Honestly, since its using GeForce drivers. It was made for games.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

@@ArchusKanzaki in 4-5 years, we'll have a new video card lol.

[@sonicboy678]

@@brownchair2698 Sure, but I'd still argue it can fall into "budget workstation" territory, especially when paired with a 5950X.

[@brownchair2698]

@@sonicboy678 I guess. But you'd be limited by the driver.

[@awacsadmiral_weeaboo5193]

If Linus Sebastian made a video against her it will be an unforgettable war

[@tohohomoccho]

正確で、PC知識に富んでいて、意を汲んだ訳に感服しました...！

[@king0vitrial]

1200w platinum PSU!?!? Holy hell! Now that's crazy.

[@Axeman20]

Yeah, I've come to realise my corsair ax1200i is kinda overkill.

[@vladan1079]

She wields overwhelming power.

[@nekotofu_official7665]

Consider how efficient CPU and GPU nowday, I think you can go with 850 or even 650. But yeah, I think she didn't wanna upgrade her PSU anytime soon.

[@puchu108]

yup her old corsair 1000w should do the job nicely

[@Tk3997]

​@@nekotofu_official7665 850 is overkill for nearly any system, even a few years back testing showed the strongest CPUs on the market coupled to paired top end graphics cards only got slightly over 650 watts at max possible load. Far more likely single card systems usually barely broke 450. Shrinking die sizes since then have actually reduced consumption, so current systems would need even less wattage. While running a PSU near it's maximum possible most of the time isn't ideal, a 60 to 70% load factor is acceptable without much efficiency loss, even up to 80% really only produces single digit efficiency losses. Essentially any modern gaming system will likely run without issue on a 750, if it doesn't have dual GPUs 600 is probably plenty, 650 if you want to leave a margin because you think you might overclock. Really anything over 850 nowadays is pure overkill unless it's some crazy unicorn build with the absolute top end parts and a bunch of overclocking on them. If you want to splurg a bit forget the wattage look at the over factors modularity, efficiency ratings, etc use that cash to buy a GOOD lower wattage model rather then stretching to buy a lowest bidder one with more watts then you'll ever need.

[@pickaxattacks1879]

She was correct about everything, cept for the water cooler part

[@XDbored1]

yeah some of the reasoning was weird or maybe just her explaining but i still think she ended up with everything correct i have a NH D15 and i love it but its too big it doesn't look as a good as a AIO and its a pain in the but to get the memory in and out in some motherboards you cant even reach the first slot usually you will only use 2nd and 4th so that's not a deal breaker but then you have to reach your hand around the cooler to get the memory still. Custom water cooling is not that much maintenance compared to a AIO so maybe she was wrong on that one but its still a lot of work to get installed the first time. once its working you only need to change the water every year or so if your metals are properly matched and your using clean demineralized water to start with and you have a good clear anti corrosive coolant it would probably be ok to leave it for a couple of years usually you will feel tempted to swap out some part like GPU or memory before your due to change the water and you can just do that at the same time you can also use your old water container to measure out the new water so its a bit easier to measure out the amount of water/coolant you need to add after the first time with a AIO/custom water cooling you also have more room to stick extra fans in the computer compared to a air cooler you could stick a fan on the memory a fan of the VRM a fan on the CPU socket you could even stick a fan blowing down on the GPU if you wanted it to work backwards

[@trustmeImadoc91]

Also, not trying to start a war or anything, but I think for budgeting purposes right now at least it's always a safe bet to get a ryzen CPU. Similar performance to current gen Intels, and while the price gap isn't as big as it used to be it's still there.

[@slippinjenny7410]

Also Ryzen is almost all hearing the best choice for gaming PCs right now.

[@ShaunaJagan]

This girl deserves to be a Hololive Gamer now

[@rinalds637]

hololive gamers are all animals and botan is one too, wouldn't be far fetched to consider them related

[@Raidanzoup]

@@rinalds637 I see I'm 3 weeks late to the "she's got the ears for it" comment, but here I am anyway.

[@ShadowFluux]

It’s the Lion’s Tech Tips!

[@rennacy5729]

Botan is the complete perks. Good at fps game, knows much about pc and build, have a heart warming laugh and most importantly she's a lion. What else could you ask more?

[@Temluis]

00:00 Grapic card 2080 or 3080 01:33 Some testing Power 02:05 CPU model and some useful information 04:04 Heat is no joke (Cooling) 06:09 Botan GPU choice and information about her choice 08:15 Botan GPU recomandation for new pc build 09:25 Botan PSUs and chating 13:12 Part change 13:42 "Thhis could start a war" 14:00 Why botan chose Intel 15:20 Next topic

[@Galafador]

“I’m planning to use 2080ti....” Oh no botan NOOOOOO “...since i already have it” Oh...rip

[@gilgameshlfx7006]

Is something wrong with 2080ti?

[@Galafador]

@@gilgameshlfx7006 nvidia just announced 3080 which is almost twice the performance and half the price of 2080ti

[@koreannom]

@@Galafador * 2 RTX 2080, they didn't say 2080 ti

[@koreannom]

@@Galafador and MSRP of $699 in USA (prices differ per country)

[@Galafador]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2qbmXZvmsSSjtU graph at 30:50

[@cosmo8771]

Such a cultured woman, amazing 👏

[@Cielzerozx004]

When she said it can oc itself then i think she is talking about boost clocks on cpus. But for me, to attain the highest clock speed is to manually adjust it in the bios.

[@nekotofu_official7665]

Yeah, but Intel can do Turboboost to 5ghz with ease. Maybe that's why she mistaking k stand for automatic overclock.

[@shinyhappyrem8728]

@@nekotofu_official7665 the question is: 5GHz for how long?

[@clou09]

Nah, the margins for overclocking is too small (100~200mhz) with a big trade-off of heat and power it's not worth it anymore. The best tweak right now is memory latency and timing tweaks. My R5-2600 is nearing stock 3600 levels in gaming with the right configs.

[@nekotofu_official7665]

@@shinyhappyrem8728 obviously, not for a long time. Or else even a water cooled CPU will get roast.

[@Explodingstrawberry125]

Great to see vtubers knowing their stuff

[@NightRoseAlt]

The main thing I need to update is my GPU, my old 1080 Ti is getting a bit out of date it seems XD Otherwise, most of my other specs are at least close to Botan's. Yay hehe

[@xLeidenFrost]

I built my first pc in 2013 with i7-3770, 16gb crucial ballistix sport ram and gtx 650ti (upgraded to 1060 6gb in 2019) . Lasted me 7 years. The i7-3770 is still a beast at gaming

[@wiryantirta]

4:15 “if it turns out its overheating I’m giving up” Intel: “I’m about to end this Vtuber’s entire career!

[@sonicboy678]

Hey, at least it was Comet Lake instead of Rocket Lake.

[@drakke125Channel]

Its nice to learn tech from vyoutubers who know their stuff.... I'm sick of not knowing so whenever I listen to people it helps me feel better.

[@Kortexual]

Linus better watch out, Botan's coming for him lol.

[@motoharumotoharu]

Indeed. The worst thing about upgrade is the new generation of Motherboard and technology series. It always pains me each time I decide to replace my used up parts just to see that my DDR2 parts are no longer available on the market. And out dated parts series especially the one which is no longer widely available usually were put in a quite high price despite being the obsolete series.

[@Arcterion]

12:52 -- _[looks at own 10-year-old PC]_

[@TakeshiMitsuhide]

I agree, older PC has greater endurance and lifespan than new

[@ono8633]

Can't disagree with this

[@SuperSohaizai]

@@TakeshiMitsuhide we don't know about this one yet though unless a lot of newer parts are reported failing

[@elisirfly]

@@SuperSohaizai Older parts overall have better endurance because of larger nodes - so they are less vulnerable to erratic power input or changes in voltage and heat expansion/shrinking cycles. New stuff has better performance but it's significantly more complex and crammed on the chip area with all those tiny nodes and paths. Other than cooling I'd say a lot depends on PSU's ability to provide "quality" energy to your newer components as cheap ones -especially without any DC/DC converters can brick your stuff quite early into their lifespan.

[@SuperSohaizai]

@@elisirfly hmmm makes sense, thanks for the explanation

[@kocokan]

Botan Tech Tips my source of tech news

[@duck3472]

BotanTechTips : "3090 will be overkill" My vega 8 and wallet : "Indeed"

[@antonioetv]

How's performance on that APU for ya? I wanna play games like Doom Eternal and stuff but I'm too broke

[@duck3472]

@@antonioetv im not sure if it can run doom, but its pretty good if you just want to play games like csgo, valorant and genshin impact too. But if you have more money, i recommend you to buy better laptop/pc

[@Fate_37]

I think I just found my favorite VTuber.

[@abdfiqhi]

Honestly if it still overheat then she might as well go for threadripper 3990x lmao. That thing with 64 core 128 thread is a monster

[@Axeman20]

Those are server grade CPUs though which would make sense for their intended use.

[@abdfiqhi]

@@Axeman20 I heard that it wasn't? Maybe I was mistaken. From what I heard the server CPU of AMD is EPYC not Threadripper. Maybe I was wrong

[@TakeshiMitsuhide]

I tot threadrippper isn't for gaming purpose?

[@abdfiqhi]

@@TakeshiMitsuhide ah I see. I was mistaken then. I ever read that the server proc of AMD was EPYC so I thought the threadripper wasn't server. Welp, thanks for the correction!👍

[@abdfiqhi]

Then it should be r9 3950x or 3900xt then that I put on my recommendation above

[@lintrom3205]

This is gold XD

[@TraxeriMai]

I would say AMD Ryzen is a perfect choice for processor as it runs gaming perfectly.

[@guessit5036]

*2 years passed* Botan: Aight, imma head out for parts for a new PC

[@aran2742]

Botan Tech Tips

[@Haruharu792]

Somehow seeing a girl talking about PC tech is weirdly interesting.

[@vivre909]

Seems pretty normal to me

[@kawaiiyandere1049]

You must not talk to girls much huh?

[@Haruharu792]

@@kawaiiyandere1049 more like the girls around me doesn't take interest in any tech at all

[@Ersdown_Liberia]

@@Haruharu792 same lol. Fml

[@RayRahu]

@@Haruharu792 Same, never met one.

[@briansantos1700]

6:25 Press F. You paid to be a beta tester with the 20xx series.

[@shinyhappyrem8728]

NV would like to charge the same for the new generation, but now they're competing with consoles in a time when many people have much less money.

[@andresantos3487]

She is a famous vtuber im sure she can afford to buy another one

[@Nathalens]

still waiting for AMD Threadripper Pro to be released. can't wait to build up my new setup

[@BastardWolf28]

Botan Tech Tips. BeeTeeTeeStoreDotCom The only thing she drops is your depression rate.

[@PlyAkira]

Does she has water bottle? Or does she drop an expensive stuff? Speaking of droping stuff, here our sponsor!

[@BastardWolf28]

@@PlyAkira how could I forget! She drops granades. *Poi.

[@wikidude]

POI! Tech Tips

[@DeSpaceFairy]

"The nerd in this one is strong" - some jedi wizard probably.

[@distinctloafer]

Just a normal pc where I can see Botan's face is enough for me.

[@annguyenlehoang7779]

Im planing to buy rtx 3070 and build my whole new PC xD .

[@fronttide]

don't forget the monitor, you have to make sure to put all of those horse power to work.

[@MansMan42069]

My condolences

[@Azurekiteful]

For me I'm waiitng for 3060, would be pretty sweet deal. If the 3070 is faster than 2080 ti like what nvidia said then 3060 prob the between rtx 2070 and 2080 power with much more cheaper price

[@joe579003]

RIP your dream

[@rizqeenurhani3683]

First time seeing an idol that's actually tech savvy

[@spongebobfan78]

I like how Botan is basically a Western kind of gamer (unless it's actually pretty common in other parts of the world and I'm not just aware of it) but also happens to be a Japanese idol

[@Zambrano2199]

JP guys prefer mobile games and consoles. So Botan is part of the l33t squad of people in JP lol

[@linnylinlinlin]

I already don’t understand Japanese but I’m glad Botan is knowledgeable about stuff like this! さすが　ららーいおん!

[@BlissBatch]

4:53 - "But I don't think air cooling is quite up to the job..." $90 Dark Rock Pro 4: *AM I A JOKE TO YOU*

[@nekotofu_official7665]

As long you didn't do any extreme overclocking, even a stock cooler will be fine.

[@gato23]

there are cheaper AIO that makes the same or better cooling.

[@hibatyolian2967]

it's i9 10th gen we talking about, even noctua nh-d15 struggling to keeping temps under 80c

[@nekotofu_official7665]

@@hibatyolian2967 I think Noctua can still handle it under normal session. It's not like you push it to 5.5ghz all the time.

[@hibatyolian2967]

@@nekotofu_official7665 for normal condition ( not stressed/full load like blender or prime95 ) it's still safe, but there's not much cooling headroom

[@Raidanzoup]

Seeing this video on my recommended videos keeps reminding me that the author of Nodame Cantabile made a manga about overclocking PCs that I need to check up on now that it's been a few years.

[@LtZetarn]

"Local Lion start a fanboy wars" news at 11

[@nff2112]

botan tech tips

[@suggggg]

mfw im still rocking my 1050 ti from over 3 years ago and there's already two new gens of gpus

[@TakeshiMitsuhide]

meanwhile my 750ti still in good condition XD

[@GugureSux]

I got the i7-2600K from 2011, and GTX 1060 6gb. So far, all games have worked just fine. Easy 60fps at 1200p.

[@andresantos3487]

Mine is a i7-7700 with a 1070. Plays most games fine on high settings, exept Cyberpunk, but we all know the problems with that game lol

[@ftk-alt]

as a person who hav experience in IT retail i would say she hav a wide extensive knowledge in PC parts as well as how it works

[@Ken_neThT]

Botan trying to sound cute makes her sound like Marine XD

[@patootie3529]

U mean like the voice she's always using? That's her normal speaking voice even in her own personal channel lol

[@ricogwapo5100]

Watching this right after watching the POLTATO PC clip. what stark contrast lol

[@logancapes]

Everyone arguing over Intel vs AMD. Meanwhile computer engineers just wondering who will be the first to make a CPU with an integrated RTX level GPU.

[@algis-kun8777]

aint happening soon, the bottleneck is not the chip, its the memory bandwidth.... dedicated GPU are fast because they have dedicated and specialized RAM for their arquitecture structure.... system ram is too general purpose in comparison hence slower.

[@logancapes]

@@algis-kun8777 Is there a reason why a CPU could not have integrated RAM? Aside from legal reasons about monopoly and unfair advantage and whatnot.

[@algis-kun8777]

@@logancapes The real question is... How much cost, upgradeability and modularity would you like to give up for it? In my opinion, Integrated graphics has always been conceived as a budget oriented option and/or for use cases where heavy computing is not required.

[@MaxyStorm3]

To be honest, it would turn out too expensive, if you look at the newer and most powerfull CPUs they don't have integrated video anymore, I will use Ryzen 5 3600x as an example, AMD shortned the distance in their circuits to lower memory lag, but it comes at the cost of some increase in heat as the circuit is really close to each other, but what they did was to make the processor have a bigger area, so having an integrated video takes some part of your processor capability, so it is not viable to make a integrated RTX CPU

[@MaxyStorm3]

Sorry if it was too long but it should be like that

[@olorinistar9903]

Her new computer is STACKED

[@bakagamingcommentary]

the i 910900k a unicorn cpu , intel bascliy replace it with the intel i9 10800k. 20 series a joke atm they can bought second hand a lot time half the price of it brand new. but again she probably got them sponsor giving to her for free, there rumores of large warehouse of unsold 2080 ti.

[@SkiLayYT]

Wait WUUUUUUUUUUUUT A warehouse full of unsold 2080ti-s?

[@TheEtueify]

@@SkiLayYT Nvidia was (extremely) disappointed in the 20series sales numbers. This is while they already expected ''lower'' sales due to how little the 20series improves over the 10series. The 2080Ti was hurt most as wasn't convincing enough an generational leap so more people stuck the 1080ti compared to how many kept the 980ti after the 10series launched and was more expensive than anticipated for the small incremental improvement. Raytracing adaptation was so abysmal that the 20 series simply didn't seem to have value for their price. DLSS 1.0 was a bad joke and DLSS 1.0+ was a rare unicorn. With the 30series there is DLSS 2.0, however it doesn't require game designers to implement it and has proven performance gains with minimal loss in quality. ( It's considerably better than upscaling a downscale unlike DLSS 1.0 ) DLSS 2.0 ( 4/8K ) when not pausing a game is undifferentiatable to native resolutions according the reviewers. ( when pausing it's even hard to tell unless you're going out of your way )

[@HuskyKyurem]

BOTAN TECH TIPS

[@aidenhuynh9590]

Now there’s two languages I don’t understand

[@Nick-ko1tw]

My finger is ready for 6 taps forward but i'm glad I don't need to do it

[@エズカイレズ]

About the overclock thingy, it just shows how knowledgeable botan is in pc stuff. She's half right. For most intel CPU, in the older times overclock is done by many because the CPU can achieve better performance than the default by doing so. But as time goes on intel keeps on pushing the performance to the point that there's not much people can overclock. Sure they can, but even a 10% improvement is hard to achieve with overclock nowadays. Coupled that with a new feature. Intel CPU, if they are that they have enough power (and the CPU is cool enough) by default will push the performance beyond their "standard" performance rating. Thus why botan says overclocking isn't necessary. It's not that they are automatically doing it, but this auto tuning feature means that there is a lot to tweak yet little to gain from overclockinh

[@sylv9570]

I overclocked my old intel laptop few years ago and heats up like a rice cooker 🤣.. It didn't broke but its not optimal since once it hits its temperature limit it auto shuts down 😅

[@Slayerzard]

エズカイレズ with velocity boost and XFR being a thing she's getting more and more right as time goes on...

[@エズカイレズ]

@@Slayerzard well yeah. Velocity boost and XFR are basically auto/smart overclocking

[@SicklySeraphYT]

Honestly, it's really cool having someone who knows a lot about computer talk, especially when your friend is running a potato pc lmao

[@lucelent8427]

To be honest the case she chose isn't exactly airflow based so theres a chance the CPU might overheat

[@shingshongshamalama]

To be completely fair, I have never had bad airflow cause my CPU to overheat in over twenty years. Unless you actively are overclocking your stuff all the time, it's probably not a problem. Just have a decent CPU cooler. Or just dunk the entire machine in oil and get a heat pump.

[@nekotofu_official7665]

It depends where she put the radiator for AIO. Also kinda curious which 2080 she using.

[@theodiscusgaming3909]

It's an AIO cooler, airflow is irrelevant.

[@theodiscusgaming3909]

@Danish Wistara What I meant is that in an AIO setup, the airflow of the case isn't the limiting factor in most cases. Even in cases like the NZXT H500/H10 with closed off front panels, they perform reasonably well. This is because AIOs are mounted at case fan mounting points where they can intake fresh air from outside or exhaust their air from the case, unlike air coolers which operate completely inside the case and need additional fans to intake/exhaust air.

[@nekotofu_official7665]

@@theodiscusgaming3909 AIO still had Radiator, so you still need air to cool down your PC.

[@cliffcabz429]

I really like botan. The true hololive pro-gamer

[@goldone1029]

Didn't they killed 2080ti with the new 30xx series?

[@nekotofu_official7665]

That's how Nvidia works.

[@Invizive]

It's still cheaper to use 2080ti that you already have instead of buying a new 30XX. You would be able to wait several years then buy 3XXX.

[@AlejandroRodolfoMendez]

Botan: welcome to my TED talk

[@SunnyBlam]

One day when I have the money for it, I want Botan to give me recommendations for PC stuff. I have a Polka-tier PC, probably even worse. It just barely plays games from 2015.

[@fredhopratama9835]

for now, appreciate what you have and probably watch many review to enrich your knowledge until you satisfied with your choice

[@captainblacktail8137]

You can buy an off the shelf one, the of buying the parts themselves and setting it up isn't really that much cheaper last i checked so its not worth it if you aren't familiar with it.

[@Axeman20]

The buildapc subreddit has some good builds for whatever budget you may have.

[@rarminqorset3628]

Industry can change really fast. DDR5 RAM is also already ready market. Wait for new shift in industry. .....personally I want superior AMD graphic drivers

[@A0P_PvP]

@@captainblacktail8137 prebuilts are so much more expensive? what do you mean?

[@Fahmi4869]

Listening to this makes me want to build a gaming pc, but my budget isn't even ready

[@MrSquishles]

linus botan colab when? :o

[@yori_pramudya]

all hail botan tech tips

[@MetalGamer00]

Botan should definitely stream pc building simulator

[@carsontodd2443]

Lets buy Botan a thread ripper. I think they're coming out with a new one at some point, id have to dig for it to find it.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

her i9 is fine, she isnt doing rendering while streaming a game.

[@joulmn]

why are they need the non-K version ? basically INTEL marketing.

[@McDudes]

what she says towards the end, about a good PC lasting long, is so true. Mine have lasted for 6 years.

[@nekotofu_official7665]

We need her to do collaboration with Linus, Gamernexus, Bitwit, and Jayztwocent And let them fall into Rabbit hole.

[@TheSilentsama]

Lioness tech tips

[@spongebobfan78]

Language is probably the only thing keeping it from happening

[@awacsadmiral_weeaboo5193]

Austin already fell into the rabbit hole

[@kotan2185]

Now we need a live PC building with Shishiron

[@HikiZIMA]

that one guy in the comments: running straight E-85 and push 718 WHP

[@andresgizmos1271]

I buRst out laughing at that comment ;)

[@magmamaster1801]

It's crazy how fast technology moves. This video is only 2 months old and intel CPUs have now been objectively surpassed in every way by Ryzen and now we are waiting on the release of the RX 6900 XT which is supposed to match the 3090 for $500 less.

[@bojaidin]

Apparently even the 6800xt surpasses the 3090 in some cases with SAM enabled. Pretty wild!

[@Kortexual]

The RTX 3090 replaces the Titan class GPUs from the last gens, so yeah you definitely don't need it for gaming. An RTX 3070 or 3080 will do you just fine, heck, the higher end 10 and 20 series cards still hold up just fine today. I'm just wondering how AMD's RDNA 2 will do against Ampere though. PCIE 3.0 probably won't bottleneck the new GPUs at all either, so 10th gen intel is a safe choice. Although with the introduction of RTX IO, that might change in the future due to the sheer amount of data it pushes, but the implementation of that in games is gonna be slow. For CPUs, AMD is definitely king in heavy CPU loads like rendering with the amount of cores and threads you can buy on the cheap from them, the Ryzen 3900X gives you insane value. For pure gaming though, the 10900K is definitely still on the top. Also for the auto-OC thing Botan was talking about, yeah, turbo boost exists but that isn't the same as an all-core overclock either. For example, the 10900K can boost up to a maximum of 5.3GHz, but only on a single core. Its all-core turbo is only 4.9GHz. If you were to overclock, you could push the all-core turbo up to 5.3GHz or even higher depending on how well your CPU overclocks, how much voltage you feed it, and how good your cooling solution is. Some motherboard vendors do let you enable an auto-OC mode in the BIOS, but most of the time it feeds your CPU too much voltage, which produces too much heat. I think a beefy air cooler like Noctua's NH-D15 could definitely handle a stock 10900K though, there's really no need to go with an AIO unless it's for looks or you're trying to push an extreme overclock, but that wouldn't be viable for daily use anyways. I also really want to see Botan try and do hard-line water cooling. I want to see how that ends up lol.

[@ANDELE3025]

I mean, for most games the 700+ cards are still functional once you hit the overkill (and usually quite unoptimized) shaders n shadows down a notch or two. And id say 3600 gives better value than 3900X, half the price for merely 6-8% better non rendering performance and solidly better overclocking energy efficiency.

[@koreannom]

I recently purchased an RTX 2080 ti for $1200 AUD in Australia. Prices for GPUs have always been kind of fcked for us (the card I bought has an msrp of $2200 AUD) and considering the low supply of the RTX 3070, I decided to not even bother have my hopes up and just pulled the trigger on the discounted RTX 2080 ti.

[@animefanrk2k]

This makes me want to upgrade my computer... again. If parts go down in price, I'll hopefully be able to upgrade cheap, since my motherboard is at the tail end of the current generation and I won't be able to use the next one. You can tell she's a tekkie since she builds her own PCs on a regular basis~

[@Failzz8]

Ye, 2021 is looking like it's gonna be one of the best years ever for getting a new pc/upgrades

[@elisirfly]

I kinda don't get it why she rushed buying that new i9 and mobo for it this early. Could have waited for October/November when new AMD cpus are out and then decide whether go Intel or AMD tbh. Even if she wouldn't pick AMD I'd say Intel could have cut prices after Ryzen 4000 release to compete better for customers and then buy that i9 - same with NVIDIAs stuff regarding AMD's gpu offerings. But it's all judging from money saving standpoint after all.

[@elisirfly]

@@koayty Does make sense if time is more valuable than money for her as it's the time of the year with biggest demand for PC parts too. Intel vs AMD in not much of a diffrence but imo it's a bit wasteful not going for cheaper 3900X now on a X570 mobo and later upgrade to 4900X for example with added benefits of PCIe 4.0 (only Intel doesnt have it now) if we're talking about high end optimal setup. As for money she makes I doubt it would be $50k as holo vtuber only gets about 35% (30% YT 35% HL) of SC money so maybe $17k max from first moth. Still, that's quite a lot of money.

[@anzu0o211]

@@elisirfly Money for her isn't the problem, its all about time/performance. Even when the new AMD cpus are out and it deems better than the intel she can easily change into it but I highly doubt so since Intel dominates the Japanese markets right now. Edit: Also to add up to the income, all hololive vtubers also receives a monthly salary from the company so 17k$ for first month is still on the low side as an estimation.

[@nolategame6367]

Gotta say though, according to her own reasoning, and thought process (still, RTX 3000 does work on PCIe 3) intel wasn't even a option, since then it's be stuck back at 3.0