Shoeless Joe Jackson his life and historic locations

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Passing Through Productions

Passing Through Productions

3 жыл бұрын

We travel to Greenville, SC to get a better idea on just who Shoeless Joe Jackson was and get a glimpse of the locations that shaped his life and the places he lived and worked post his MLB career.
Shoeless Jackson is considered one of the greatest Major League Baseball players of all time and his impressive career was cut short in his prime. Caught up in a World Series throwing scandal he was banished from baseball in 1919.
We visit the following:
1. Fluor Field: Home of the Greenville Drive and host to a Jackson statue.
2. The Shoeless Joe Jackson Museum and Library.
3. The Shoeless Joe Jackson Memorial Park
4. The former Joe Jackson Liquor store
5. The grave of Shoeless Joe

Пікірлер: 275
@SpaceHCowboy
@SpaceHCowboy Жыл бұрын
From a longtime Scottish baseball fan. Thank you for this video. Bless you 🙏🏼
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@robbiemacinnes8517
@robbiemacinnes8517 2 күн бұрын
Another fan in Scotland ? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍
@SpaceHCowboy
@SpaceHCowboy 2 күн бұрын
@@robbiemacinnes8517 yes'sir 👍🏼
@marktwain368
@marktwain368 Жыл бұрын
A fitting memorial to one of the patron saints of Baseball. Thanks for showing him the respect he deserves.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your time in watching and the much appreciated comments.
@johnbroadway4196
@johnbroadway4196 4 ай бұрын
IT'S BEEN WAY OVER DUE, THAT SHOELESS JOE SHOULD BE IN BASEBALL HALL OF FAME !
@robbiemacinnes8517
@robbiemacinnes8517 2 күн бұрын
Yes. The ban was a lifetime one, his "debt" if that is how anyone regards it, has been paid. He was human, but his ability, talent and skill deserves to be celebrated & included amongst the pantheon of the greats in Cooperstown.
@raypavey1102
@raypavey1102 2 жыл бұрын
He deserves to be in the hall of fame
@michaelreynoldsok
@michaelreynoldsok 2 жыл бұрын
Late in his life I met a former Furman University (and later semi-pro baseball player) named Eddie Edwards. Eddie said late in his life Joe Jackson would regularly stand near an outfield fence and watch the university team practice. The way Eddie told that story made me realize how much the game meant to Joe. It makes a person sad to think the guy with the most passion for the game had it taken away. Long live Joe’s memory. Thank you for this video.
@King3star
@King3star 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for relating that moment in his life. It makes that scene in 'Field of Dreams" even more tender, when Joe talks about getting kicked out, the smell of the game and how he would have played for noth'n. Can you imagine Joe and Ray embracing on the other side? This is why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
@lillyanp4
@lillyanp4 Жыл бұрын
I have lived in Greenville my whole life. My grandparents on my mom’s side on buried a few graves down from Joe. My aunt great aunt worked with Joe in Brandon Mill and talked about watching him play for the Spinners. It’s a trip to see this on KZbin! One of the best baseball players EVER!!!! It’s truly a shame he is not in the Hall of Fame.
@davruck1
@davruck1 2 ай бұрын
My family is from SC. I’m Black. I wonder if he was passing for white. Some of his story of getting kicked out the league makes more sense. That’s the only thing worse than gambling since it’s clear he didn’t fix the games. The fact he grew up as a sharecropper makes me question most of his story.
@brucecole3263
@brucecole3263 4 ай бұрын
Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame. No question.
@ricewychrij
@ricewychrij 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely tribute. As a Brit that learned about Baseball in the 90s, Joe was 1 of the legends' names that always cropped up. Fingers crossed a commissioner will at some point reverse the ban and induct Joe into the Hall, as he truly deserves
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@smokeymayrand4757
@smokeymayrand4757 Жыл бұрын
Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of fame
@itinerantpatriot1196
@itinerantpatriot1196 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you included that story about Ty Cobb stopping by to check on his friend. Most people aren't familiar with that, they just go off the BS story that hack failed sports writer wrote. The guy was a fall down drunk and he assassinated Ty's reputation after he passed away to sell his book. The story you shared, a guy checking checking on his buddy when the rest of baseball had moved on, and Joe's meek but grateful response to the gesture, speaks to the real character of the two men. Maybe now that baseball is openly cavorting with gambling houses themselves they'll drop the hypocrisy and let Joe in the Hall. He was banned for life and he served his sentence. I'm with you on this one, let him in.
@scattau41
@scattau41 2 жыл бұрын
Great use of “cavorting”. I agree with the points you’ve made. He’s served his time.
@Iconhulk
@Iconhulk 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Cobb was a Freemason... 👎 Hopefully he Found Jesus.
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 2 жыл бұрын
He couldn’t read or write so how could he sign anything!
@itinerantpatriot1196
@itinerantpatriot1196 2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestpassaro9663 You might want to look again. I never said Joe wrote anything. I said a drunken washed up sports writer out of New York wrote a hit piece on Ty Cobb, not Joe Jackson.
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 2 жыл бұрын
@@itinerantpatriot1196 ok
@natterbat
@natterbat 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I grew up in Greenville. In the 1990s, while supporting a campaign to get Shoeless Joe into the HOF, I had an opportunity to talk to his younger sister Gertrude and a young friend of Joe's who learned and was inspired by him to play baseball (Joe Anders - Brooklyn Dodgers). Near the Brandon baseball field is Woodside Mill, which has an almost hidden baseball field with original dugouts and stands from the 1920s. It was for sale then, and I almost bought it, but thought such a treasure should be community owned It is now owned by the county recreation department. Shoeless Joe managed a baseball team there after the ban, I think when he was in his 40s. It is said that even then, he could routinely hit the chain link fence 415 feet away.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words and amazing comments!
@christywright4039
@christywright4039 Жыл бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions That’s awesome I lived there was born there.Thanks for the history lesson 😊❤
@tomayres4237
@tomayres4237 2 жыл бұрын
Put him in the Hall of fame!!!!!!!!!!
@Thebigtipper101
@Thebigtipper101 2 жыл бұрын
He was still a great player and he should be in the hall of fame
@marcbrooks2466
@marcbrooks2466 Жыл бұрын
I AGREE!!
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Жыл бұрын
No, he accepted money to throw the 1919 World Series. Hell no!
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Жыл бұрын
@@marcbrooks2466 I do not agree.
@lancemousel3457
@lancemousel3457 Жыл бұрын
The bambino patterned his stance and hitting on shoeless Joe enough said I rest my case should be in the hall shame on hall of Fame idiot people
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Жыл бұрын
@@lancemousel3457 I know he was a great hitter; this is not the point. I need no history lessons about baseball from you. He accepted money to throw the 1919 World Series, and this is an absolute FACT! He does not belong in the HOF, and he is NOT in the HOF, and I am not asking to like it. Disagree with me all day long, and you will still be wrong!
@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN
@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN 2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that he could never live down being casted out of Major League baseball. I hope one day he gets reinstated and his ballot for the Hall of Fame.
@bflatfood
@bflatfood Жыл бұрын
Terrific, terrific job! Really well done. Your commentary, the pace of your voice, goes right along with the period of time you are reflecting on. Excellent!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
That made my day, thank you!
@stanwilson8758
@stanwilson8758 Жыл бұрын
Proud of my shoeless Joe Jackson from our hometown my grandfather played with him on a mill team before he became famous,he was a kind gentleman.
@dannywallace4905
@dannywallace4905 Жыл бұрын
Great job. Love this game and it's history
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@robbiemacinnes8517
@robbiemacinnes8517 2 күн бұрын
Many thanks for this video. Delighted to see the field and museum. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 күн бұрын
@@robbiemacinnes8517 my pleasure! Thank you for watching.
@marciamcguire6501
@marciamcguire6501 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous Homage and Tribute . Bravo. I hope Joe Does get that Reinstatement and Hall of Fame Tribute he SO deserves. Tragic.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words! I agree I was hoping commissioner Manfred would do the right thing and now he’s done the same as so many before him and just kicks the can down the road. I’m hoping the success of the field of dreams game may have an impact.
@marciamcguire6501
@marciamcguire6501 3 жыл бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions YES ! Perhaps THIS will have a visceral response from him to right this !
@movieman9100
@movieman9100 2 жыл бұрын
He has done his time. Let him in.
@elizabethloera2139
@elizabethloera2139 2 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely delightful!
@darylhoskins5696
@darylhoskins5696 2 жыл бұрын
Love Greenville , Spartanburg Area , Beautiful Place and very Nice People!
@georgescroggins1051
@georgescroggins1051 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you so much for sharing his amazing story.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@Joezeppi1
@Joezeppi1 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this tour my friend!!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@edwardgarcia3718
@edwardgarcia3718 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It seems to be that Shoeless Joe was a very kind man. Just sort of accepted the bad hand that he was dealt and then tried to do right and live a humble, quiet life in his beloved town. This made me hope that MLB gets him into the Hall. He deserves it.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, and a great player, but NO, he does not deserve to be in the Hall. He accepted the money, and of this, there is no question.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@garymorris1856 yes several historians keep ending up with that same conclusion.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 2 жыл бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions Yes, it's always pointed out that he hit quite well in the Series of 1919, but often omitted that he did not hit well in crucial situations, and his defensive play was very questionable.
@brucestanley9330
@brucestanley9330 Жыл бұрын
@@garymorris1856 Just as long as you feel that exact same way about the steroid cheats that have forever ruined the entire game of baseball and not just one world series.
@Scott-jf1nh
@Scott-jf1nh 2 жыл бұрын
Well done video. Thank you. All baseball fans are curious about Joe Jackson. So sad they took MLB baseball away from him.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@mollymay2.071
@mollymay2.071 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent history video!! So professional and informative!! Keep up the good work!!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Molly thank you so much! I really appreciate it. This is maybe the most fun I’ve ever had making one.
@Michaela243
@Michaela243 2 жыл бұрын
I just have to say THANK YOU for this amazing video! Mike
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
That means the world to me that you enjoyed it. Thank you so much!
@amethystlong9149
@amethystlong9149 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video and putting it out here. I've hear people say he was born in 1887 (Wikipedia), 1888, 1895, etc, etc... it seems a mystery, much like why he's not in the Baseball Hall of Fame. But going off this, if he were born in 1895 and in the year 1900 he'd only be 5 years old. Aside from all this... again, thank you for making this video and sharing the information and experiences that you had.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Yes I pinned a comment about why I got the birth year wrong. I appreciate so much you watching and commenting.
@MrNicebuttrue
@MrNicebuttrue Жыл бұрын
Good job with this personal view of this historical summary. I can tell you know and enjoy Greenville, my home town!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@petersancinito1560
@petersancinito1560 2 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening and most enjoyable! Thank you!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@petersancinito1560
@petersancinito1560 2 жыл бұрын
I always believed that Jackson was handed a very raw deal by Landis and your video only reaffirmed that belief! Shoeless Joe was, and remains to this day, one of baseball's most tragic figures!
@Southwesternism
@Southwesternism 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks a lot
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the kind words!
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!!
@marcuscarrozza732
@marcuscarrozza732 3 ай бұрын
Back when i was in my late teen years( i am 56 now ) ,i living in North Carolina and was working for a cable company and we would go to Greenville South Carolina from time to time on jobs . I wish i knew shoeless Joe lived ther i would have tried to see what ever there was about him . I always loved badeball , always will.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@berean77
@berean77 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! That museum in Greenville is now on my bucket list! A couple of observations: The museum, formerly his home, has a street number on the door of 356 - the same as his lifetime BA. Coincidence? At 7:48, where they show the commemorative plaque at the base of his statue, the second paragraph leads with "At the peek of his career..." We all see typos all the time - but on a bronze plaque? A little embarrassing, I think.
@robertculbreth694
@robertculbreth694 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to throw a series when you're doing everything in your power to win. Pete Rose sort of got what he had coming. Joe, nah! No way.
@Emcee_Shan
@Emcee_Shan 3 жыл бұрын
Great video sir! Stellar 👍
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much my friend. Really enjoyed this one.
@bobfulton6744
@bobfulton6744 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@goodcopbadcopwrestlingpodc6117
@goodcopbadcopwrestlingpodc6117 2 жыл бұрын
Was in Greenville last week but the museum was unfortunately closed so was great to get some glimpses inside from this.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! I’m glad you were able to see some of the museum through the video.
@larryparker8677
@larryparker8677 Жыл бұрын
Joe Jackson is a model of what we all should strive for. To be humble, to always do your best, and show kindness to one another. A simple man that had his career cut short by a vengeful commissioner. It saddens me that this ruling could not have been reversed by one of the very best human beings... Joe Jackson!
@mrbig4532
@mrbig4532 Жыл бұрын
Always do your best does not apply to Shoeless Joe he admitted he was part of the fix and went out of his way to not do his best and he delivered. I don’t want to hear he didn’t know what he was involved in he wasn’t able to read and write but he still had common sense .
@jeffreyh.1176
@jeffreyh.1176 Жыл бұрын
Citation please.
@Lavaman3682
@Lavaman3682 Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Thank you....
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@stevenpristoop3236
@stevenpristoop3236 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video of early baseball.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@88gair
@88gair Жыл бұрын
BRAVO! You've restored dignity that the man deserves...
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@TheInsaneChef
@TheInsaneChef 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! I went by Rickwood Field in Birmingham on my trip. I love Baseball history
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir! Baseball definitely will always be my favorite.
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 2 жыл бұрын
Is it Hank Aaron stadium in Birmingham also you can see it from Interstate 65
@gregpohlmeier
@gregpohlmeier 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool, always been fascinated by joe as I have always been a white sox fan. Thanks for showing us!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@Skunkape74
@Skunkape74 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff...Thanks for sharing!!!!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@robertcinsc2171
@robertcinsc2171 2 жыл бұрын
Joe also played for the Pacific Mill-Lyman team for a couple of seasons in the late 1920s. There were team pictures that hung in the Lyman Community Building. I saw them in the 70s during my Little League years.
@omarm808
@omarm808 Жыл бұрын
Joe belongs in the Hall of fame..no doubt!!
@herbhouston5378
@herbhouston5378 2 жыл бұрын
What was done to him was horrific! He did his part to win! This man did NOTHING wrong! If he has any family alive today the current commissioner of MLB needs to do a Worldwide apology for the unfair way he was destroyed.
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 2 жыл бұрын
He probably should not have taken the money to throw the games then (which he testified, under oath, that he did).
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 2 жыл бұрын
He made dubious fielding decisions throughout the series. Still, to have been barred for life from the HOF was unfair.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Жыл бұрын
No, you are wrong.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Жыл бұрын
@@vgr112261 No, he should not be in HOF.
@ronaldgavlick732
@ronaldgavlick732 Жыл бұрын
Compared to the criminals in sports today he's a saint
@Eddyrozay
@Eddyrozay 7 ай бұрын
Put this on to go to sleep but ended up watching the whole thing. Great vid 👍🏽
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 2 жыл бұрын
Jackson hit 375 in that series!
@marcbrooks2466
@marcbrooks2466 Жыл бұрын
I love the video!! I will visit Greenville in his honor.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@iamgbaby12
@iamgbaby12 Жыл бұрын
This man deserves to be in the Hall of Fame
@teejay6063
@teejay6063 2 жыл бұрын
Cool watch for any baseball lifer. Thanks bro 👍
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@teejay6063
@teejay6063 2 жыл бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions You're welcome. I always knew the basics of the story, and researched Joe more after watching the video. Guilty or not, he served his time! Pete, same thing. Reinstate these guys. Their baseball prison terms were MORE than fulfilled at this point.
@KitschyTravels
@KitschyTravels 3 жыл бұрын
Very well made video!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.
@amihays7449
@amihays7449 Жыл бұрын
I love learning the history of baseball ⚾️ 👏👏💃💃
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@Voots7
@Voots7 4 ай бұрын
Very cool.
@TC-dw6wg
@TC-dw6wg 9 ай бұрын
Great job Arron
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@donbonnell9973
@donbonnell9973 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@DewmonicAbyss
@DewmonicAbyss 3 жыл бұрын
Had to grab some popcorn for this. lol Great job putting this together! Retiring with a liquor store.. Not a bad way to go out.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much my friend! I really appreciate you watching.
@danielcorreard3746
@danielcorreard3746 2 жыл бұрын
shoeless joes glove is where triples would go to die a quote from the movie field of dreams shoeless joe was a great player and it's sad he will never get the well deserved honor of entering the hall of fame
@jerrydowning3774
@jerrydowning3774 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight into the life of Shoeless Joe Jackson. It appears if he knew about the scandal he never participated in it even if he did attend a meeting. He batted .375 leading all hitters in the 1919 World Series with no errors and I think I saw something where he threw some runners out besides in that World Series. It appears he was a successful businessman which says a lot for him since he was illiterate. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
@michaelliverani9440
@michaelliverani9440 2 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to get the background of some of the players in early baseball. I really enjoyed this video. I like getting to know the man. Good job! Thank you.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your comments so much!
@daniellinehan63
@daniellinehan63 Жыл бұрын
Read L.Ritter's " Glory of their Times" About baseball old days- a great great read
@mikepaukstis9892
@mikepaukstis9892 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@jj90789
@jj90789 3 жыл бұрын
Smashing the like button 👍 thank you..thank you very much
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you King!
@michaeltwigg44
@michaeltwigg44 5 ай бұрын
Definitely deserves to be in the hall of fame! one of the greatest! Actually he is #2 on my list of the greatest of all time! Thanks for posting this video great work!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@michaeltwigg44
@michaeltwigg44 5 ай бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions You're welcome 😊
@danacoleman4007
@danacoleman4007 2 жыл бұрын
well done!!!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@ronniebishop2496
@ronniebishop2496 2 жыл бұрын
Good presentation.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@KentuckyRanger
@KentuckyRanger 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! What an in depth, and awesome history of a baseball legend. Thanks for sharing!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend! This was a joy to film. I really appreciate you watching.
@KentuckyRanger
@KentuckyRanger 3 жыл бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions I'd keep up better, but I don't hardly ever get notifications, so I drop in from time to time, to see what's new, LOL! While not a huge baseball fan, this was very interesting. I'm also glad, that you didn't go into all the horrid details about his part in the cheating debacle, but focused on his awesome career.
@LoriFoster
@LoriFoster 2 жыл бұрын
Kinisaw Mountain Landis was born near my home town. There’s a small plaque on the side of the road for his remembrance.
@bobstewart8032
@bobstewart8032 2 жыл бұрын
He really seemed like a truly decent human being. Some people may say that being illiterate is a sign of stupidity. I think one has to be very intelligent to get through life when not being able to read or write. This was an awesome video!
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@bobstewart8032
@bobstewart8032 Жыл бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions you're welcome!
@MapleSyrupPoet
@MapleSyrupPoet 2 жыл бұрын
A lot in Joe's eyes 👀 deep soul
@marcbrooks2466
@marcbrooks2466 Жыл бұрын
I hope I'm alive when they finally realize that he truly belongs.
@vassa1972
@vassa1972 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 7 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!
@soupdragonuk
@soupdragonuk Жыл бұрын
As a huge baseball fan from the UK the fact that Shoeless isn't in the Hall is the most disgusting travesty in baseball history. He's one of my favourite players of all time.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting sir!
@MapleSyrupPoet
@MapleSyrupPoet 2 жыл бұрын
Uniform, bats, quite valuable I imagine ⚾️⚾️⚾️
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
*Mistakenly said Joe was born in 1895 due to the fact the subject of a previous days filming was born then. Joe was born in 1889. (Some sources say 1888)
@Joe_Jackson
@Joe_Jackson Жыл бұрын
Cool
@zonkster909
@zonkster909 2 жыл бұрын
Like Ruth, up from nothing to greatness.
@Creek54
@Creek54 2 жыл бұрын
He's always my first choice in my all time greatest White Sox players.
@ericerickson7544
@ericerickson7544 Жыл бұрын
I think it has been long enough that Joe Jefferson "Shoeless Joe" Jackson should be reinstituted back in the M.L.B.
@ronniebishop2496
@ronniebishop2496 2 жыл бұрын
The one constant that keeps everyone equal, the place where you can’t buy your way in, you have to earn it by being in the top 1/2 of one percent, of the genre, you have to be great just to play baseball. And people know it’s real, it’s not rigged it has rules for everyone.
@frozentspark2105
@frozentspark2105 2 жыл бұрын
Hero's get remembered, Legends never die - Babe Ruth
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 2 жыл бұрын
I never quite understood his banishment from baseball. He never attended any of the meetings with the players conspiring to throw the game, and he was the leading hitter in the world series. Something doesn't add up. I believe that somehow this man got railroaded.
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 2 жыл бұрын
Probably should not have taken the money then (which he did, by his own admission, under oath).
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 2 жыл бұрын
@@bauerj3398 He did testify in the affirmative, however history will show that he was railroaded. He took the advice of the attorney hired to defend he and his teammates. That attorney was very short-sighted. Sorry, but lawyers are ruthless. I was once accused of a crime I most certainly didn't commit. Money was tight and I was assigned a legal aid lawyer who told me to plead guilty to a lesser charge. When I said I had committed no crime he said well then go hire a lawyer because it's "my job to get you through the system ASAP." Long story short, I had to borrow $5,000 from my sister, hired a real attorney, and the mess was cleared up 1 2 3. I realize the man wasn't using a legal aid attorney, but he was just going with the legal advice given him. The money was forced on him and he basically either took it, or followed legal advice saying that he took it. Why would he conspire to throw the series, and then go out and have a great world series? It doesn't make any sense to me. It's another one of those many instances where the history that was recorded was pure bullshit. Look at all the erroneous things that history has recorded about Ty Cobb. Hell, history tells us that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK 😂
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 2 жыл бұрын
@@mtp4430 Wait, so you are saying he lied and didn't take money? That is some serious revisionist history you got going there. If you want to try to argue that he took the money but then didn't partake of the game fixing, that is a reasonable discussion, but to pretend he didn't take money, when he did, and he admitted he did, is just plain ludicrous.
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 2 жыл бұрын
@@bauerj3398 it's obvious you don't have much experience with lawyers or the practice of law. The jails are filled with people who claimed culpability in things they never took part in. It's all part of the system, and unfortunately the system doesn't work. However, it's the only one we've got. I said he may or may not have taken money. Just because he said he did regarding the legal advice he was given doesn't necessarily make it so. I was advised to plead guilty to a crime I've never committed, just to get a reduced sentence. Why should I have a sentence at all if I'm innocent. It took me $5,000 and an above board attorney to squash that claim before it even went to court. The evidence was clear that I had done nothing, but these legal aid schmucks advised me to plead guilty to a lesser sentence. This man was an uneducated illiterate man. Documents actually had to be read to him because he didn't even know how to read. But you're right, he shouldn't have taken the money. But the jury is still out on whether he took it or not. Ask yourself this? Why would the conspirators who devised the plan to throw the series pay this man when he never delivered on his promise? Instead, he had an outstanding series. When things don't add up you have to question it. And you have to question it two or three times when it involves our legal system. If he was advised it would go away by just admitting he took part in it, and that was the legal advice he got, and uneducated unsophisticated type that he was, would probably go with whatever his counsel advised. Maybe he did take the money as he stated. But I believe that was coercement. Go ahead, make a deal with underworld figures, then renege on that deal, and see if they pay you LOL. The man was the leading hitter in the series. You don't pay a man who double crosses you. That's just plain and simple logic.
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 2 жыл бұрын
@@mtp4430 It is obvious the only experience you have in this matters is that of a criminal. Keep making up excuses, talking out of your ass, in complete disregard of the facts, and pretend you are some sort of autodidact Perry Mason, if that helps you puff out your chest a bit. Meanwhile, in the real world, Jackson testified under oath that he took $5000, signed a confession to the exact same effect, and stated afterwards, the exact same thing (his bone of contention was that he was promised $20,000, but only got $5000.)
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838 2 жыл бұрын
His house that he was born in right here in downtown Greenville south Carolina!!
@79antigua
@79antigua 5 ай бұрын
he was also called sockless joe as told in the book "Commy" the life story of Comiskey written in 1919., you should also read the book 8 men out for more facts than the movie.
@robbiemacinnes8517
@robbiemacinnes8517 2 күн бұрын
8MO is a great book, give The Betrayal by Charles Fountain a try, it's more factual.
@ethanmarten7966
@ethanmarten7966 Жыл бұрын
Reinstate Joe Jackson.
@richardhausig9493
@richardhausig9493 3 ай бұрын
I agree.
@SgtRock-cr2sh
@SgtRock-cr2sh 2 ай бұрын
Put Joe in the HOF!!!!
@Brians_C8
@Brians_C8 Жыл бұрын
He should be in the hall of fame but we got stupid commissioner. I hope we get a good one who will let him in.
@USMC-cv5sd
@USMC-cv5sd Жыл бұрын
Great singer in the 1980's also. Lol Seriously and obviously he wasn't a better hitter than Cobb, Ruth, Gehrig or Hornsby to name a few but he is THE NATURAL.
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838 2 жыл бұрын
I live 25 min from fluor field!!
@weirdowolfstudio5409
@weirdowolfstudio5409 Жыл бұрын
I hope the Jackson family is profiting from everything
@timalan5376
@timalan5376 2 жыл бұрын
In comparison to what pro athletes have gotten away with today, he was an angel, and really should be in The HOF.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
Now now... Two wrongs don't make a right...
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Жыл бұрын
No, he should not.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 hell no!
@michaelbaker602
@michaelbaker602 2 жыл бұрын
I would hope that somewhere down the road, Joe is admitted to the HOF. After all, Cobb was enshrined in the #1 spot and he too bet against his own team during his playing days. You can look it up.
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 2 жыл бұрын
What about Pete Rose will he ever be in the Hall of Fame
@O_Mahan
@O_Mahan 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikekeeler6362 no chance
@Max-gn9tg
@Max-gn9tg Ай бұрын
Did he ever do any interviews? Like later in life during the 30s-50s?
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions Ай бұрын
I’ve seen a magazine interview from 49’ www.blackbetsy.com/theTruth.html
@Mr1gladiatore
@Mr1gladiatore 2 ай бұрын
You would think by now that an honest baseball commissioner would have reinstated him considering he was acquitted of any wrongdoing. His case is a perfect example of guilty by association. Just look at his World Series stats. Are those the stats of someone trying to throw a series?
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 2 ай бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly!
@SJam491
@SJam491 2 жыл бұрын
In regard to the Jackson-Cobb meeting, I was under the impression that next to no one in baseball wanted anything to do with Shoeless Joe. Despite Cobb's faults, he was an exception. Am I wrong?
@joenewman7474
@joenewman7474 2 жыл бұрын
Cobb's faults? So all the other players were boy scouts, right? Are you kidding!
@SJam491
@SJam491 Жыл бұрын
@@joenewman7474 You're right. Mel Hall was pretty bad.
@artpekarekiii4320
@artpekarekiii4320 3 ай бұрын
Here we celebrate a man who was banished from baseball. Induct Pete Rose in the HOF.
@waltdude
@waltdude Жыл бұрын
Man he looks just like Ty Cobb
@foghatrocks
@foghatrocks 2 жыл бұрын
So sad.
@mlm21
@mlm21 3 жыл бұрын
I find it "funny" as many people I've worked with over the years. Many seemed to prefer Football or Ice Hockey. I've noticed people seem to be swinging back to Baseball. I prefer Baseball. I don't get Football, Ice Hockey or Basketball.
@PassingThroughProductions
@PassingThroughProductions 3 жыл бұрын
It’s always been my favorite. My dad was a big fan of Pete Rose and that got me into the sport growing up.
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 2 жыл бұрын
@@PassingThroughProductions Nobody played the game harder than Pete Rose.
@thehighlanders607
@thehighlanders607 2 жыл бұрын
MLB will let juicers into the Hall Of Fame but not a legend who hit .375 in the World Series while committing no errors? MLB per usual is on the wrong side of history.
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 2 жыл бұрын
Which “juicers” are in the HOF?
@thehighlanders607
@thehighlanders607 2 жыл бұрын
@@vgr112261 Ortiz, Pedro and Pudge to start with.
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