Shoma Uno deserved better! Cup of China, GP Finland, and NHK Trophy Review

Hi guys!
Here is my official review of the Cup of China, GP ESpoo, and NHK Trophy for 2023. The next will be the GP Final. Enjoy!
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[@paolala]

This is somewhat of a repost from twitter @ggcncobtsbp I'll say this; i agree that my videos have become more soulless bc I am rushing to complete them. But my main goal is to be a gateway into the world of fs. Be that friend that you don't have (and i don't have) where you can turn to to talk skating. So if i achieved that for anyone I am happy ♥. Thank you to anyone sending me kind words & I promise I will try to be more informed in my future videos.

[@potatorobot]

youve actually been that for me recently! ive always wanted to get into figure skating but havent been able to up until now (time wise mostly) and your videos help give me just a little insight into everything going on before i go and look into certain events and skaters, and if i see glimpses of programs i like, so thanks for that

[@isomi3981]

Honestly reality tv sounds like a joke compared to figure skating drama and news

[@paolala]

facts!

[@emiliavachon]

Kao Miura picked the music himself 😔✋ It’s the Attack on Titan soundtrack and the costume is also what they wear in the show. He’s stated before that he worked with the choreographer to blend his fav show with his skating, and that he tries to imagine the characters from the show while he skates. It’ll grow on you

[@emiliavachon]

i’m also so biased because he’s my favourite men’s skater and aot is my fav show but trust it will be your fav by worlds

[@prisonisinourminds8070]

I think it is in general important to know the story behind every performance (if there is one) bc it gives you a completely different outlook on the program. Same as yulia lipnitskaya skate at the Olympics wouldn’t be that impressive if people didn’t know that it was based on that movie. I know Schindler’s list very well but my cousin for example asked me why she was wearing that ugly red dress 😂🤷‍♀️ when you know what’s going on it gives you a completely different impression

[@Haruyokoiii]

Like ik the costume might seem boring to some people who doesn't watch anime but it's literally a cosplay of the corps uniform and it fits the theme of the program. As a big AOT (and Sawano fan)I love the costume

[@roomazza3311]

I had to rewatch his skate to get it but I also love AOT so it was one of my favorite programs tbh and the music was so good too

[@KatiexThexLady]

Kao's free music was from Attack on Titan soundtrack. A hugely popular anime that ended recently. His costume was dressed as a scout from the show. I do agree it wasn't fully vibing for me but maybe he was a big fan of the show and wanted to show it some love. It is cool music if you get into it trust me. :3

[@paolala]

ohh, wait maybe if i had this context i would like it better haha. Thank you for sharing!

[@anonimorph]

he loves anime, so maybe he does like AoT

[@CLynn-ip1xi]

​@@anonimorphI believe he said that it was his favorite anime

[@Laralove14927]

You need to do better. If you’re going to make videos like this that you know will reach a wide audience you need to do research before making any statements that are critical towards a skater.

[@yunqiliu6228]

@@Laralove14927agree. She gives the impression of I’m not a big fan of Kao nor care too much about Asian culture, so if I don’t get the program on the get go then it’s bad choice 😅

[@cyanpets]

Shomas short took my breath away. I think the way he skates just is special

[@CheyenneSedai]

It really worked that first time for me, hasn't been as effective since, but that Cup of China one was magical

[@paolala]

agreed

[@sydneytoshok8481]

Honestly, it seems like Kevin is going through some struggles with his mental health that are showing in his skating. In the k&c at French nationals, he was in tears… saying that every day in general is hard for him, that he is afraid that his career has passed him. Mental health is not discussed nearly as much as should be, especially in sports and especially amongst men.

[@aaronjimenez7825]

Shoma's NHK skate apparently all his quads were called underrotated, to his and his coaches' confusion

[@carolinea6769]

Okay so I just rewatched Yuma and Shoma's NHK free skates and, I'm sorry but the tech panel was too harsh on Shoma. They called every single one of his quads q when in reality, both of his quad toes were perfectly fine! I even put it at .25 speed, and the 4T-3T in particular was squeaky clean! The tech panel just made those calls up! Rewatch it if you don't believe me. Like I can see the first two getting called q if the judges are being super strict and calling it based on when the toepick hits the ice rather than when the blade bears the skater's weight. By that standard, sure the first two quads were borderline q. But idk, I thought the judges were supposed to make UR calls when it's noticable in real time, as in, you can see the blade pivot on the ice. Regardless, one less q call would have earned Shoma the gold, so the tech panel really did the most to help ensure Yuma qualified for the final. Also, the tech panel may have been checking like hawks for Shoma's URs, but they didn't call Yuma's Lutz edge which should have received an unclear edge (!) call. So... they were selectively strict imo. As are the people who harp on Shoma's technical flaws but don't have that same energy for other skaters.... Has Shoma had uncalled URs in the past? Sure, as have most skaters if we're being honest. But his jumps at NHK were not noticeably UR, and certainly not all of them deserved q calls. Honestly, I genuinely do not care about the nitty gritty technicalities, that's not why I watch the sport. But the tech brigade that's like "finally shoma's urs were called at nhk"... it's just like, did you actually watch the skate in question? So I decided to take it upon myself to actually look at the jumps since the people who claim to care so much about being tech sticklers clearly did not 💀

[@christinethorp3684]

Yes! I went back and watched all Shoma's jumps in slo mo, too, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. The fact that ALL those quads received positive GOEs in real time shows that the tech caller went in afterwards with a "gotcha" attitude and wiped them out, basically. It was the most blatant politically motivated result I've ever seen; just disgusting! I don't know how an investigation wasn't called. That tech caller should be banned from future competitions!

[@aimee3845]

Yuma didn't need to win to qualify, he would have only needed 2nd and to win the total score tiebreaker against Shun. He could do that fine bar complete disaster, in which case there would have been no saving him anyway. I'm not saying they weren't harsh on Shoma's underrotations (it was a harshly judged competition on rotations overall) but implying they were harsh on Shoma solely to get Yuma into the final doesn't seem plausible. It would make no sense as a tactic, anyway, as Yuma's scoring ceiling is lower than Shoma's and he scored lower at his first GP assignment than Shoma did. Why would they be dying to get him into the final at Shoma's expense?

[@carolinea6769]

@@aimee3845 you're totally correct that Yuma didn't need to win in order to qualify for the final. As far as the panel's motivations are concerned, I can only speculate. Whatever their reasoning, it's clear that their calls or lack thereof benefited Yuma at the expense of Shoma because the competition can only have one winner. Shoma already had a silver from his first assignment whereas Yuma had a bronze. By giving Yuma the gold and Shoma silver, that's a safe way to ensure that they both qualify whereas if it was reversed, as you pointed out, there was a possibility, albeit unlikely, of Yuma losing the tiebreaker. To me that seems like a plausible reason to score Yuma favorably and Shoma unfavorably-not necessarily to prevent Shoma from qualifying but to ensure that they both do. Otherwise, I'm left just as baffled as you as to how this scoring outcome took place. You're right, Yuma had a lower tech ceiling, and yet he still won. Why?Your guess is as good as mine.

[@aimee3845]

@@carolinea6769 if the unlikely event occured where Yuma lost the tiebreaker, his score would have dropped lower than anything they could feasibly drop Shoma's to after he'd skated, so it's not a scenario they could really defend against anyway. I think the tech panel had a point to make, but I don't think it was getting Yuma in to the final. As to how he won, Yuma deserved his score even if it's thought Shoma deserved more. His skating quality is second to none and he deserves his goe

[@carolinea6769]

@@aimee3845 I see what you're saying, that Yuma was basically going to sink or swim regardless of how Shoma was scored. I get that, and I don't disagree. But I still think it's possible that the judges may have wanted Yuma to win over Shoma so that he neatly qualified for the final without even having to worry about tie-breaker scenarios. It's not logical, because Yuma would have qualified regardless, but it's a much tidier way to have both Yuma and Shoma qualifying by placing them 1-2 in that order. Since Shoma skated before Yuma, the technical panel dinging all of his quads opened the door for Yuma to take the victory, which he narrowly did. It's just my speculation. And I agree that, apart from the 3Lz, Yuma deserves his GOES even though I feel that Shoma was scored too harshly. You don't have to agree with my speculations, that's fine. But this whole situation is puzzling me, so I am curious what point you thought the tech panel was trying to make.

[@katsunee8254]

Shoma will propably retire after this season, then we will have no beautiful top mens costumes left😔😔 At least we can see Yuzu's ice show costumes, they always bring me joy

[@paolala]

omg nooooo

[@giuliacleti5950]

Let's hope he said that just because he was upset with the judges! I love Shoma💕, and I 'm surely not the only one here 😊

[@Ardit-kq4bt]

Well he knows that with Malanin sadly he has no chances so he will retire.Malinin has only jumps in his skate nothing else .I wish judges would penalize Malinin in the components scores because he doesnt deserve more than 5

[@AM-tl1xi]

I actually enjoy Kevin’s short program top! But that short program makes me quite emotional , the music just pierces through my heart and he interprets it beautifully.

[@lookingnerdy]

it hurts my soul to hear someone talking bad about the Attack on Titan music so much :( However, I think Kao's cut of the AOT music was... not great. That show has SO MANY amazing tracks and he used the least interesting ones. However, I still love the music and hope to see more anime music in the figure skating world. A lot of it is SO GOOD but many people don't even know if it's existence.

[@Cheetahviper]

Kao miura loves attack on titan. He chose his music and themes for his free. Shoma has stated to people this year is about giving the fans a skate to enjoy so he's not worried about the scores.

[@matchaeylle]

Paola uploads on the same day I land my very first jump (waltz jump) is so special to me today ❤

[@tomkroh2712]

Oh you know we've been waiting for your insight on this whacky sport we love. Great video as always!

[@queen_gucci]

Let’s go!!!! I’ve been waiting for this one, turn up!

[@fatifeodoskating]

Ok, I call BS on the IOC. Shame on them.

[@luzcalderon7808]

You can always trust Russia to bring back THE MESS

[@SM-gy5wv]

girl kao's free was AOT😭😭

[@carolinea6769]

Omg missing Amber's SP, it's probably for the best 😭 she came back so strongly in the free

[@bayp930]

people once again bringing up that one "interview" with "shoma" to bash, and saying all his jumps are bad 🤡 its literally one jump and shoma and stephane are both aware, it doesnt mean he doesnt deserve to be one of the best skaters rn. he has always said he will work harder to improve and you cannot tell me he hasn't gotten so much better since he started working with stephane. his skating is beautiful, i do agree with his landings being very soft and his musicality being unmatched. when he lands his jumps, no matter what you say about the technique, it takes my breath away. i also understand you don't want to support a skater you believe is immoral, but you also shouldn't believe everything you see on stan twt. people will do anything to bring up their own faves, especially create drama for other skaters

[@FanyusAnonymous]

Sorry, I may have misunderstood, but would you mind explaining what you mean when you talk about a skater who's seemingly immoral? Is this referring to Shouma? Thank you!

[@saqweq]

Stan tw*tter is cringeworthy especially the F*nyus.

[@Haruyokoiii]

​@@saqweqsure blame everything on the 'fvcking fanyus' again, as you always do even though we have nothing to do with this video 🙄

[@ofirangel2025]

when i tell you i ran

[@Pikachu-kw4fv]

The funny thing is, among the belgian skaters, ppl are talking luna is avoiding competing against nina cause she doesn't want to lose against her. So you liking luna so much more than nina is interesting to me. I've been on the ice with nina so I've watched her train. And I really, truly, love her skating, her jumps and her spins. Granted, never seen luna skate in person I so can't compare

[@est-fm9ui]

Hiiii!!! Lately I've been so caught up with my new job and couldn't find the time to sit down and enjoy your videos. Now I have two left to watch and happily sitting in my bed with my cozy blankets. ❤ My love for figure skating has slightly waned after the Russians were banned international competitions (which was the right choice!). Hopefully you'll create more content you're happy to put out in the future. Don't be so hard on yourself. If it's not your primary job/source of income it's not worth it to stress about a posting schedule. We're here. At least I'll be here, waiting for you. ❤

[@lunahorse67]

as a swiss im soo glad that we finally have some representation in skating again after stéphane and sara meier 😭

[@Glitteringmoonstone2022]

I ❤ Lukas Britschgi. His step sequences are incredible and I am seeing him coming into his own. I am also a fan Kimmy Repond

[@shamal17]

me too and I really like Lukas!!

[@UsernamesForDummies]

I agree. I’m a bit put off by Paola La’s commentary, though. She obviously cares more for a pleasing costume than a great step sequence. Last year, when he won bronze at Europeans, she didn’t even mention him. Same with Kimmy Repond. I doubt she has ever even watched a Stephane Lambiel performance, but is still gushing over Russian skaters that quit years ago.

[@townsongs]

requesting paola to cover ice dance drama again because the spanish euro assignments are causing CHAOS in id community 😭

[@denalowry8710]

Great analysis and commentary

[@jakobmax3299]

18:00 i think Kao actually chose his fs musoc himself. Its from a popular Anime (Attack on titan) and he has said on multiple occasions that he is an anime fan.

[@andyy3596]

Not the AOT music slander 😭😭

[@harrisonandary1410]

Nah cuz NHK ladies results had me double checking all my socials to confirm hahaha. I mean like you said NHK is usually stacked especially since skating is huge in Japan so seeing an American - Belgian podium through me off 💀🤣

[@CheyenneSedai]

Mikhail and Adam have risen to one of the top of my list of skaters (of the ones I didn't know before) in the men's discipline. Huge fan of both of them. Oh and those Kevin comments hurt me having seen the GP Finals and French Nats

[@CLynn-ip1xi]

Yeah those comments aged horribly 😭😭

[@figureskatingmess]

I loved your dress commentary 😊❤

[@Laralove14927]

Surprised you didn’t address the corruption surrounding Matteo Rizzo at Espoo. He deserved better, he was wronged.

[@slofi2376]

what happened?

[@TheFlowMind]

@@slofi2376They took away a step sequence and removed like 10 points so he would end after Kao. He really deserved going to the GPF after so many years. I’ll take him a milion times over Kao.

[@Haruyokoiii]

Kao chose a soundtrack from AOT with the hope that it would be recognised outside the sport. I think he did a good job. The music is composed by Hiroyuki Sawano, one of the best Japanese composers ever.

[@Felix-xt9fg]

leave kao's attack on titan program alone 💀🤌

[@yurii_plisetsky]

if you liked hana yoshida's costume, you'll definately like inga gurgenidze's free programme from the junior world's! when i saw hana's costume it reminded me of inga's

[@nikitashaitan9984]

3:40 Petrosyan would be 18 and even if she fails all of her quads, she still has tripples which is more than enough to win in female field as of right now she surely will not be at her best form, cause her form is as good as it could be right now but like who could potentially be her rival? there is no comparison with anyone

[@sarahwang9929]

Sofia Samoldelkina looks like she's polishing her ultra c elements(she landed a 3a+3a sequence on insta) and she's the same age, so possibility sofia.

[@sirena3470]

Petrosian cannot surpass Jia Shin, Ami Nakai or Kaori Sakamoto with only triples... She needs her quads because she doesn’t have very good skating skills and her jumps are actually weak. Akateva’s jumps are stronger but she got a stress fracture in the same leg for second time, I don’t think she will be able to return. There is also another Eteri girl named Daria Sadkova, she will be age-eligible for the Olympics but she is very inconsistent and rarely lands her 4T cleanly. Zhilina and Muravieva are much stronger, but they would never be chosen over an Eteri girl

[@strawberrylime33]

You can acknowledge that petrosyan is a good skater without saying that the other skaters are shit compared to her. I've only seen this horrible proclamation come from the Russian press, everyone else treats skaters from other countries with respect. Ugh.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

​@@sirena3470 This is ridiculous. Adeliia with just triples can beat them all. While you're thinking about Adeliia losing quads why don't you pray that Jia Shin doesn't end up like Haein Lee, Young You, and Yelim Kim by the time she also hits puberty at 17/18. Losing rotations on triples and popping all her triples and out of stamina like them barely at 20. Most Koreans lose their triple jumps by 17 while the Russians lose quads at 18 but keep their triples. Who's really losing here? Zhilina? Seriously? She is weak at consistency despite having the best jumps in the world. She is the most inconsistent russian skater with ultra-c other than lame Maya Khromik which is why she can't be "chosen". Alina Gorbecheva from a no name coach will be "Chosen" before her. Tell the girl to get stronger mentally because she's not delivering enough for anyone to back her. Alina G from a no name coach beat Zhilina with just 1 quad. That's how weak Zhilina is. Muravieva's jump content isn't good enough this season. She was good last season, but this season she's fallen mentally ill in terms of ultra-c and falls on all 3A attempts in competition. Her mental health is not good and is in the garbage this season she would easily lose to little Kaori. I do 100% believe Kaori would beat Muravieva with her current mental state.

[@yohanes2034]

@@savanahbabyyyy yeah but how many of that Russians skaters who can really skate? Not that many. Sure they can be consistent with triples and the scores will rise up but for me, I'd choose others to watch.

[@notdickonson]

If you are able it would be cool for you to cover the jgp (junior grand prix) aswell, i would love to hear your thoughts on it :))

[@dimitrif.m.4091]

Have you heard about the allegations against Hana Yoshida's coach, Mie Hamada? I only recently found out, it's scary how sweet she acts on camera.

[@CheyenneSedai]

Unlike Eteri, you definitely can't tell with Hamada that she's basically the Eteri of Japan.

[@84rinne_moo]

Yes Oda Nobunari actually brought a lawsuit against her, although didn’t win.

[@FanyusAnonymous]

Would you mind expanding on this? It's difficult for me to find news on figure skating. Thank you!!!

[@savanahbabyyyy]

@@CheyenneSedai Hamada beats her students. Eteri's students including Aliona said Eteri doesn't do that

[@PumpkinCandleGetLit]

I want Yuma to skate to funky remix techno jazzy something weird as hell or just like ABBA.

[@peachxblue]

~ 9:50 what does it mean when ppl say “she popped her double axel” - it looks pretty good to me? Does “pop” refer to rotations or landing?

[@kohlinoor]

Usually means that the jump's rotation fizzled out a tad too early. Often you'll see their leg "pop" out before it's supposed to, expecially in combo jumps.

[@MaggieJaneSimpson]

could you do video explaining the jumps and just the ropes of ice skating? i enjoy your voice very much and i would love from you like an introduction for the newbies in the world of ice skating (if you didn´t do it already)

[@khadijah55555]

There should be a figure skating documentary because I would watch it

[@miidnxghts]

i just noticed there’s lots of clockwise jumpers this season

[@compka93]

I do not enjoy figure skating as much as I used to. I loved the artistry and music. Now its all about quads. That is why RIVERDANCE was such a big hit - it was the artistry and music and they way the skater related to the music. Now all you have to do is go out there and hit as many quads as you can.

[@ruby_mwami]

When are we getting the GP and JGP final

[@MelinaImmonen]

Wait wdym Lukas is a new skater to you😳 He's been around for years and he got bronze at Euros this year

[@Loveeleven10]

'like what a cult would play during a human sacrifice' is kind of accurate. The anime was dark.

[@victoriadesamotracia]

THE Shae Lynn Bourne choregraph Kao's program and he selected this music because is from his favorite anime, I didn't watch AOT and knew nothing about the music or the anime so much but the program is really amazing, sad that you can not enjoy it because probably you only take in count the" vibes" and do not know how a programs is choreograph and how a skater enhances that by their understanding of the music and theme.The proof of that is that you think Kevin's bolero is something when its really terrible especially the chore sequence meanwhile Kao slays on the choreo sequence. Watch Carolina's Bolero , the only one that counts as good.

[@alliflower17]

HOW DID I MISS THESE EVENTS. HOW?!

[@peachxblue]

Omg ~ 17:56 that’s an awesome idea, a JAWS skating routine, maybe in a shark costume 😂😂?

[@Micah9985]

Are there any programs that you do like?😂

[@cuearesty]

The IOC needs new committee members. They never sanctioned Russia as hard as how they kept the Haudenosaunee Lacrosse team from entering their event: an actual sport the First Nation people (THEY) actually created. I know it's not about Ice Skating, but IOC has no excuse not to disqualify entire nations. Especially RUSSIA. Their qualm for allowing Haudenosaunee to enter their team is because they identify as a separate nation (from North America), flying their own flag. Apoparently a bigger sin than doping and waging wars.

[@tuuleri]

Yes, ioc has allowed russians to compete BUT each federation makes the decisions about whom they allow into their own competitions and it's in those competitions athletes can get country places to the olympics. So, if isu don't let russians compete in the 2025 worlds and that year's nebelhorn trophy (that has been the last chance to get a country place previously), it's no russian skaters in Milan 2026.

[@BahamaWynters]

6:12 Yep! Red glove and a little bitty dance just for herself but you can join in. Yeah.

[@LlamasAtMidnight]

Honestly, I'd watch a 5 hour, in-depth video from you, i love hearing your opinions and analysis

[@victoriadesamotracia]

she barely know how this works 🫠

[@victoriadesamotracia]

she barely know how this works 🫠

[@CaraMarie13]

I have to say, I like Ava Marie more than Isabeau. Her jumps and movement on the ice grabbed me right away.

[@josephine.france5]

Paola also kostornaia is skating to her old departure music again with kunitsa

[@genevieveblackburn1348]

just trust that you do NOT want to watch Amber's short at GP Espoo... it was so hard to watch

[@LlamasAtMidnight]

16:12 "That one guy from tumblr: the One cellar"

[@townsongs]

21:30 oh girl... do i have news

[@kenmoreSF]

Your videos must be mirror image because they're all jumping clockwise, which I know is not true.

[@LlamasAtMidnight]

She does it to avoid copyright strikes from the isu

[@casey6222]

Does this mean they will finally trial Kamilas case and make a desicion next year? Or will Kamila retire before anyways, because she is now in THAT age

[@cassthegod9775]

One thing you have to keep In mind is, russian civilians don't decide if there government goes to war it isn't there fault. As an American I don't support everything my government does, and they might not ether

[@nikitashaitan9984]

so far there are like 6 russian allowed to compete at Olympics

[@savanahbabyyyy]

who are the 6?

[@haterlarimoc]

not sure if you're aware but it is known that kevin aymoz has supported and keeps working with his coaches who have helped cover up se.ual abuse of a minor

[@KP-zd3hc]

Slightly forgivable if and only Liza T makes the Olympic team.

[@sophie7780]

the ioc decision re russia is very disappointing but not surprising. time to boycott

[@nataliapanchyshyn385]

The russian comeback makes me sick. The bloody money still win.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

Don't watch

[@nataliapanchyshyn385]

@@savanahbabyyyy the Olympics? Easy.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

@@nataliapanchyshyn385 Good :)

[@taramcbrearty2918]

Shoma was robbed period. And yuma is far superior a skater overall than illia it looks like judging is going back to there old tricks again

[@eugeosynthesisthirtytwo]

I don't think a skater being called out for his bad tech is robbing

[@mastermargarita3926]

Paola please talk for 5 hours❤️❤️❤️

[@yohanes2034]

I've been one of his fans and enjoyer since 2017, but it's no denying that he's infamous for underrotating his jumps and got away with most calls. I'd say that his placement in the Oly 2018 and 2022 should be down 1 spot because of the uncalled URs. So I think it's a bit overreaction from Stephane to call it a "scandal" from 1 competition where maybe 2 q calls are too harsh. Also not too mention that "4F" technique he keeps on doing over the years racking on points. I like his PCS sides but I would not defend his jumps.

[@HannahhRalte]

I will never forget how Jun was robbed of Worlds gold. He's used to getting his horrible jump tech uncalled and this time too he thought he could get away with it. It's not a scandal. Everyone in the figure skating fandom who has eyes and is not biased to him can see his flaws.

[@yohanes2034]

@@HannahhRalte shoma has many fans too who will gladly overlook his uncalled UR when he’s winning/ on podium but when he’s apparently short by 2 pts to win, they will gladly click the replay button to confirm the protocol. I agree with you that WC2023 Jun should have won that cause in that comp, shoma was also getting away without calls.

[@alinareybey3263]

You’re getting Dragged on Twitter… 💀

[@BahamaWynters]

Love your report but the split second edit between skate and cloud background forced me to listen but not watch. Thirty-seven minutes of Stroke! alert; is my Mac ef-d up or was this intended. Like your diction so didn't need closed captioning. Yeesh. Please don't do this again.

[@mariiie.B]

Shomas faked jumps for once get rightfully called out and he and lambiel throws tantrum ?? He definitely does not deserve better scores

[@watchmedo635]

Lambiel’s reaction was so wild lol, especially when Shoma’s technique is so clearly errored

[@sirena3470]

His jumps are literally fine except his 4F

[@kathrynmogavero5680]

Ummm . . . Stephane said some things he shouldn’t have. Shoma, after the first confusion of ‘what’s happening?’ said, “those are the rules and we have to follow the rules.” He acknowledged his under rotations, as he should, and said he would try his hardest to improve his jump quality by J Nats. He made a BIG point of complimenting Yuma, saying Yuma’s skating was great and he didn’t want anything to detract from Yuma’s performance. That’s rare in figure skating, or any competitive sport. Yuma’s dad said so too. Shoma is cool.

[@mariiie.B]

@@sirena3470 fone except the uncalled excesive underrotations.

[@kathrynmogavero5680]

@@mariiie.B Every single quad jump of Shoma’s was called at NHK and given zero GOE. That’s why Yuma won, although I loved Yuma’s skate. So did Shoma, who raved about it after the competition. The regular judges scored his tech at 106, but the technical experts said every jump was under rotated. The craziest part of it was that all these outside people weighed in, like Johnny and Tara who said nothing was underrotated, and they weren’t even there! Other Japanese, like Tatsuki Machida, who was commentating, and Shizuoka Arakawa also complained about the tech judge’s rulings. It was totally crazy!

[@deeangel6396]

I think Shoma was disrespectful to the ISU body this season and his long program music sucked along with the mistakes. He came across as arrogant and that didn't put him in a good light. I leave it there.

[@Pikachu-kw4fv]

How was he disrespectful? Not defending him, just curious cause I don't follow japanese skaters at all. I feel like he comes across as confident, not necessarily arrogant. And a program needs to be acted out to some degree so as long as his demeanor while performing matches the music. I don't see how his points should suffer? Or is it about his demeanor off the ice? Again I don't know

[@soy_estellita]

wdym

[@racsco876]

Just reading your comment, I can see that you don't know anything about Shoma.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

@@racsco876 It's because of the misogyny thing. No one will ever let him go.

[@bobuddy3513]

Huh?

[@elaisamisstery1577]

it is very sad to see how the Olympic community uses Ukrainian pain and trauma for drama. there have already been cases of Ukrainians competing with Russians in other sports. Olga Harlan is a good example. there are no neutral Russian sportsmen, they are all trophies for Russian propaganda who will receive funding from the military, and by allowing Russians to return to big sports, you simply give the Russians the opportunity to fuel their nationalism, although now they have to go through moral torture because of the genocide that their country is doing for their money.

[@nataliapanchyshyn385]

Say it louder👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@leticiacampos5247]

Its not their fault. They shouldn't be punished and treated like criminals because of their's government mistakes

[@nataliapanchyshyn385]

@@leticiacampos5247 no they should bc they did nothing to stop their government.

[@AM-tl1xi]

⁠@@nataliapanchyshyn385They’re figure skaters, how are they supposed to stop their government? I think just not outright supporting (like the ones who wore Zs) it is what we can expect. It’s very hard to be a dissident in Russia and they depend on the government for their careers. The federation has to release them if they do want to change countries and they still have family there if they denounce it. I can’t understand how hard it is for Ukrainian athletes and we do know Russia uses sports as soft power so things get even messier.

[@eli64ff]

The US & Europe have been financing and benefiting from wars since like forever and noone punishes their athletes for it, you guys are just biased...

[@user-kh9ki3kq8m]

shoma has some of the worst possible jump technique girl i’m sorry but i wouldn’t say his skills are perfectly balanced 😭

[@sirena3470]

His jumps are legit okay except his 4F

[@bobuddy3513]

Wrong. And his jumps improved even more once he started working with Ghislain. 2 of the 4 jumps at NHK were not "q". That gives him the win. People make such a big deal out of the 4F. He picks to the side rather than the back. Watch how others jump the flip -- even the triples. Same thing.

[@LlamasAtMidnight]

He has most of his jumps down

[@HannahhRalte]

​@@sirena3470his toes are cheated af and his loop is a disgrace to Hanyu. His leg positions mid air are ugly and his axis in his 3A's are just ugh

[@Haruyokoiii]

​@@sirena3470they are not 😂

[@sallymaeyourass]

hahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahaha

[@watchmedo635]

Honestly I can’t stand Shoma, after his sus comments about women. I’m rooting for Yuma for worlds! Edit: Since this is already getting replies: I don’t want to support a skater who has made misogynistic comments (literally saying he strongly dislikes, even hates, women). Sure he’s a cool skater when you factor out the cheated quads, but I’d prefer to support someone and support their journey if I didn’t have reservations about comments they’ve made.

[@Jeremy-wp4yh]

Learn to separate the sport from the personal. Also, there was no ill intent.

[@watchmedo635]

@@Jeremy-wp4yh I’d rather support an athlete who has good morals 🤷‍♀️ he’s a good skater but I can’t support someone who makes flippant comments about women

[@katsunee8254]

What did he say? I haven't heard :O

[@watchmedo635]

@@katsunee8254 it was from a interview/livestream he did, he said that he is uncomfortable with women and that he especially ‘hates’ women his own age and can see through their supposed act. He then put on a ‘girly’ voice giving an example of things women say, and said that he hates women his own age because he sees them as just trying to date men. Someone then asked if he’s saying that he dislikes women his own age and he replied saying yes, a lot, that it goes beyond discomfort but to strong dislike. There’s a full transcript of the interview floating around somewhere!

[@katherinetelfer1741]

What did he say about women????

[@HannahhRalte]

Ik some of you like Shoma but imo his jumps deserves the qs and he and Stephane should not whine like a loser. He has a lot to improve and saying he has nothing more to improve is just wrong because he has so many flaws. He's used to getting inflated scores and when they got called out he just whines like a baby? That is just so petty. I feel bad for Yuma

[@sirena3470]

He didn’t say he has nothing to improve... He said he doesn’t know how to improve what he has. There is a huge difference

[@HannahhRalte]

@@sirena3470 still, he should not whine and look at himself, trying to work on his flaws. For example, his flip is horrible, he underrotates his jumps a lot and his legs are ugly mid air. His loop is barely 4 rotations and his programs have lots of crossovers. He should work on those. Instead of acting like he's Stephane's son and trying to 'make Stephane happy uwu' all the time. He's trying to be Yuri from YOI so bad and it's cringe.