Shooting 16mm Film on Digital, a Love Letter to Vintage Zooms

Getting the film look is a lot more than just slapping on an "aesthetic" or "cinematic" grade in post.
Join me in this little experiment to get closer to that sweet nostalgic film look in camera.
Hope you enjoy!

[@zachhaayema4481]

I love this. It's crazy how zooms are slowly becoming so relevant, when I was in film school a zoom instantly made your project "less cinematic" This was at a time where gimbals were just becoming more accessible and smooth tracking shots were considered the peak of getting that cinematic look. But I was truly enthralled with how all these shots turned out here, it's something so different from what we see these days. Maybe the key to that cinematic look is just making something look different, elevating an image to a type of surrealism.

[@danielp_adams]

Everything old is new again haha. But i really do feel that these 10x zooms open up so many options for creative shots, i kinda only showed a few in this video but you can really get some interesting shots. To me, to be cinematic it helps if the shot or sequence makes you feel something. In this case the slow zooms, type of shots, color, and subject make me feel like this was a snapshot of past times and i'm just observing in a nostalgic way. Thanks for watching!

[@chrisw443]

The film i made in college, had alot of zooms and didnt lean into the shallow dof look unless it was a tighter shot. Besides a singular iphone its a timeless look.

[@Francescofilmmaker]

I love zoom lenses - bought a set of primes but I was I had a zoom too. There’s something so nice about a zoom :)

[@Thomas-Fleming]

Those in your film school weren't Kubrick fans I'm assuming? lol

[@danielp_adams]

@@chrisw443 timeless for sure, having a deeper depth of field helps to tell the story 👍🏼

[@9billiondogs]

As someone who has recently become equally as obsessed with the idea of making digital footage look like 16mm film this is really cool to see! There's some gold out there but there's also way too many videos claiming they've created the "ultimate" method for "epic swag 16mm vintage retro cinematic b roll" yet all the footage is filmed on a full frame camera at f1.4 on a gimbal lmao. Also, the Shaun of the Dead crash zooms were perfect, can't wait to see what comes next!

[@danielp_adams]

Those were my thoughts exactly! Thanks for watching!

[@terryhope2074]

Beautifully shot and took me back to classic 60's and early 70's film making. Why the hell wouldn't you do that!

[@danielp_adams]

Right!?! So many great things would not have happened if people listened to the others telling them it’s not worth it 🤨

[@karol.sobanski]

Finally someone who does something in a unique way, rather than copying over and over. Great video man! 🎉

[@danielp_adams]

Hey thanks! Hope it was entertaining 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@RobertAEmmonsJr]

I’ve never hit subscribe so soon into a video. Clever, thoughtful, beautiful cinematography, and an original and edifying piece of nonfiction filmmaking.

[@danielp_adams]

Wow! Thanks for those kind words! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@YuvalAloni]

Exactly my experience these last few months. Actually shooting on a 16mm super lens gives much of that missing piece in creating 'the film look'. It's not just the look itself in terms of color, flares etc.. but just the practical way in which you have to use it and the sensor size etc.

[@danielp_adams]

Hey Yuval! That's for sure! Shooting with the smaller sensor gives you a more similar depth of field and final look. It also greatly reduces rolling shutter (not present in film). It will be hard getting the film look shooting a full frame sensor at f1.4 haha 😬. Big fan of your channel by the way! cheers!

[@jackduckworth5879]

The versatility of your shooting style is genuinely insane. Such an inspiration. Looking forward to seeing more work!

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! I try to keep it different and dynamic 👍🏼

[@davidmorefield]

Finally someone else interested on vintage zooms on modern sensors. This video was a trip. Awesome job man.

[@danielp_adams]

Si many told me it wasn’t worth it! Thanks for watching! 🤙🏼

[@BigBlobProductions]

I was fortunate enough to shoot s16 on an old ARRI SR2 back in film school. There's a discipline that it forces you to learn which I feel is so lacking in most things I see filmmakers shoot today. Creativity isn't limited by your restrictions, it's fueled by them.

[@danielp_adams]

Restrictions are sometimes liberating and you can focus more on the story and visuals rather than technical possibilities 👍🏼

[@SesjaZen]

This is so awesome idea! I'm so glad ive stubon upon this channel

[@EposVox]

This was pretty rad

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks man! Big fan of your channel for a while! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@EposVox]

Thank you! Your color grade in the arcade scenes was PERFECT, I must have the secrets

[@danielp_adams]

@@EposVox thanks! Those were grade using the Dehancer plugin 😉

[@EdProsser]

This was soooo good! Just watched this with my morning coffee and loved getting lost in the zooms. The music choices were on point too 🎉 PS. Your opening narration had a slight Fear and Loathing Las Vegas sound to it

[@danielp_adams]

Hey Ed thanks for watching! Those long zooms are really fun to shoot, it would be cool to see a modern 10x zoom from Laowa or something. Fear and Loathing is such a crazy and awesome film!

[@forbesbeedie8635]

I had the exact same experience! Watching with morning coffee, lost in the zooms. Absolutely gorgeous, thanks for sharing:-)

[@danielp_adams]

@@forbesbeedie8635 thanks for watching and the comment 🙏🏼 I would get lost while filming it haha. I just wanted to spend more and more time in a location just waiting for good situations to zoom in on!

[@sebastiaobarcellos486]

This was so well done that I forgot I was watching something shot on modern day, so it was a jumpscare when a lady appeared in Air Pods

[@danielp_adams]

Wow thanks! That’s a great compliment 🙏🏼 I would love to film something like this in NYC or LA

[@playinghousepodcast]

Dude, this is fucking great. Four minutes in and I'm already subscribed. Love the originality and dedication to the craft. 10/10.

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks 🙏🏼 I really enjoyed the process of making this video 😃

[@nikitos.production]

Ooooooh that's great, oooh very very very beautiful! Man, u can't believe how much inspire i get from this! Great! Thnx u!

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching! I’ve been so inspired by other creators on this space, it’s cool to do the same for others who watch my videos 🙏🏼

[@davindigital3645]

Amazing! Thats pretty much the look I’ve been lusting after.

[@ItsDrewsif]

Very well shot, man! And always happy to hear some Charles Bradley.

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks man! Charles Bradley makes everythig a lot better haha. Cheers!

[@davedocimo6441]

Just stumbled across this channel. Holy crap this kids a genius!

[@danielp_adams]

Hey thanks! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@benonyangore1536]

I think I found my new favorite creative channel!

[@danielp_adams]

Wow thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@juanjgf]

I have seen a lot of videos about this stuff in youtube, you sir, you did it, I completely buy the look, completely. Cero dudas, mejor film look en la plataforma compa.

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! Using the correct sensor mode (16mm crop) and a proper lens helped a lot! Muchas gracias! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@desmondmacnamara6068]

You’ve always had some of my favorite work in the FB group!

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks a lot man! I’ve been loving the Zcam F6 for quite some time 😊

[@wearetrackclub]

This is super cool! Love your video style. Amazing footage 👌🤩

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏼

[@connorquigvids]

Wow that shaun of the dead re-creation was spot on

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! That was super fun to film 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@johannes666]

this has to be the best footage ive ever seen

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! Glad you liked it! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@expiredfilm92]

this was the most filmic look i have ever seen on digital here on youtube. great video :)

[@danielp_adams]

Wow thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kiliansalomon507]

Absolutely beautiful!

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Elmapachito33]

Wow I love this so much ..Amazing work , I’m speechless 👏👏👏

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching!

[@javixo1997]

"Suave un toque, esa es la escuela metálica!" Jaja qué tuanis mae, de verdad sí recuerda un montón a 16mm. Suscrito y también lo seguí en IG ✌🏽

[@danielp_adams]

El patio que llaman! Pura vida Javier! 👍

[@calebbrunkow]

This video is fantastic! Love the look and editing. Been looking for one of those 10-100’s forever haha

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching! 16mm 10x zooms are a great option for sure! The angenieux 12-120 is also pretty accessible 👍🏼

[@itsandyfs]

Incredible execution, this video really talks about what kind of creative mind is behind your work, definitely got inspired to 'get loose' a little from a world full of 'creative rules' ruling most markets, hope to see more, subscribed

[@danielp_adams]

Thank you so much for this comment! I really enjoyed making this video and hope to bring more like this! these comments keep me going! cheers!

[@itsandyfs]

You really got me thinking thoughts about my old trusty T3 @@danielp_adams

[@elarrioguajardo208]

The legend has returned! Good to see you again. How've you been?

[@danielp_adams]

Haha thanks man! things are good! been busting my a** the last few months in between paid shoots to finish this youtube video 😅. Thanks for watching!

[@mateibradescu635]

Amazing video! Loved the production quality and the story. Keep at it!

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching and the comment! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@craigfrank]

“Why not” is often a good question.

[@danielp_adams]

100% agree! Nothing to lose (except money haha)

[@elfilmslike]

great work brother

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@jmalmsten]

Also. This makes me wanna get some servicing done to my Tamron 18-270 lens... Only problem is that, as it was built to be a budget stills lens, it makes hard clicked aperture changes during zooms, messing with exposure while adjusting the zoom. I wonder if it might be possible to rehouse its glass in a more manual set of tubes and gears to get it working better for 1970s zooms. Probably cheaper to find a better 10x zoom for my APS-C Sensor BMPCC6KG2 camera.

[@danielp_adams]

Hey thanks for watching! Yeah for sure it would be easier to find an old parfocal zoom to adapt. The glass will be much better quality.

[@elarrioguajardo208]

Also I love Charles Bradley & The Menahan Street Band!

[@danielp_adams]

so much soul! 😃

[@elarrioguajardo208]

@@danielp_adams 👍😀👍

[@paolamacharekchys6233]

😮😮 Thankyou so much for this video ! I found this inspiring. It makes me want to start creating more original things.

[@danielp_adams]

Thank you so much for saying that! That is one of my goals with this content! ❤❤❤

[@daniellastres8056]

as someone who is Costarican, you did a lovely job capturing SanJose

[@danielp_adams]

Thank you! Pura vida!

[@VietinghoffAlex]

I've been trying to do this lately too, so cool to see you do it! Also loved the b-roll of the lens itself, really cracked me up, haha. Not sure if it was intentionally funny, but it was great.

[@danielp_adams]

Hey! Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 🙏🏼

[@RadianFilms64]

Amazing video! Just found your channel and I really like your style! Can't wait for more videos from you! 😃

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! Hope to be posting more soon ;)

[@RadianFilms64]

@@danielp_adams Thant would be great! D

[@michaelmarshallphotography5515]

This was amazing! Very well done!!!

[@danielp_adams]

Thank you so much! 😉

[@fparkes6]

Great video mate, really love the zoom shots, beautifully coloured too. I was looking at this one, prices are everywhere, about what did you pay?

[@danielp_adams]

Cool thanks for watching man! i found a pretty good copy from someone in Europe that had just serviced the lens. After import fees and shipping it came out to about 3000 USD. Hope that helps!

[@fparkes6]

@@danielp_adams thanks for the reply, ok that’s a good guide for me. I just subbed mate. Love the colours of yours other vids too!

[@danielp_adams]

@@fparkes6 Thanks man! hopefully another video coming soon! cheers!

[@maxthompson]

Wow that last shot was amazing

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! You mean the sunset shot? 🌄

[@maxthompson]

@@danielp_adamsYes! So cinematic 🎥

[@chrisw443]

Nothing beats a lens like that.

[@danielp_adams]

It’s an awesome type of lens! 10x zooms are so much fun 🤩

[@buddyfx7026]

instant sub, you've got flavor and a lot of time in post!

[@danielp_adams]

Hey thanks for watching! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@TheBrianMertz]

This is so good! Just got my S6 today, now you got me thinking 🤔

[@danielp_adams]

That’s awesome! The S6 is great! I’m guessing it has an even better S16 mode because it doesn’t have to crop in to the sensor as much.

[@Max.J.H.]

Good job, Looks magical!

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! 🙏

[@fromanotherdayfilm]

my mentor happens to be the DP of shaun of the dead, I will have to show him these clips! great vid

[@danielp_adams]

Whaaaat!? That’s awesome! Big fan of his work! Working with Edgar Wright must be insanely cool!

[@sebastianrooks6778]

I love this so, so much.

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@WasabiNoise]

Great production! I think some bits felt a bit slow because I'm too used to fast youtube videos but once I settled in it was really pleasant to watch. Saludos desde Catalunya.

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching! Saludos!

[@supercine35]

Meanwhile I have become tired of using vintage manual lenses, now I prefer modern automatic lenses, although I keep many vintage Arriflex cine lenses from Cooke, Angenieux, Zeiss, Schneider, Kinoptik and so on.

[@danielp_adams]

It's all about shooting styles and preferences, in the end they are just tools for achieving the desired end result! That's a great collection of lenses you got there! hope you enjoyed and thanks for watching!

[@viper3391]

crosswalk scene is killer, with the moonwalking pedestrian signal @ 6:39

[@danielp_adams]

The light was just right for that shot! Nice hard side light ;)

[@MortyFilms]

Amazing production quality, you’ll be big! 🔥

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks man! appreciate it! Been enjoying your channel for a while now ;)

[@MortyFilms]

@@danielp_adams Sweet, that‘s very nice to hear 🙌🏼

[@Luiti87]

Beautiful ❤

[@Igor-ol5kz]

You literally achieved the film look in a way I've never seen anyone else do! You should do a tutorial sometime hehe

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! I may do something like that! Although this video covers the mayor poins 1. Shoot in 16mm crop mode 2. Try to use old vintage zoom 3. Film color grade 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@lostlukex]

@@danielp_adams can you make a color grading tutorial? I really love how you graded the footage and i would love to know what is your process like, or if you use some powergrade or plugin

[@danielp_adams]

@@lostlukex sure thing! I’ll start working on that next 👍🏼

[@butaleo]

great montage amigo! shots, music, colors, transitions - beautiful! I have few Qs: how did you do the transitions like on 4:51 ? 5:01 ? also regarding undercranked effect on 5:40, did you make it in post or did u shoot lower framerate, slow shutter? and regarding zooms : did you use motorized zooms? THANKS! subscribed

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks man! The film burn transitions are overlays and the under crank was done in camera by shooting at 6 fps and 360 degree shutter. All zooms were motorized using the Tilta Nucleus Nano II. Hope that helps! Cheers!

[@FanaticoFilms]

love the transitions you have in this piece. Do you mind sharing that fx/transition package? thx

[@danielp_adams]

Hey thanks! Most of them are manually added, they are whip pans and step printing sped up layered on top with a blending mode set to “screen”

[@FanaticoFilms]

@@danielp_adams oh wow! Great job. Maybe you should do you own package and sell it! I would buy it.

[@navarrog]

Can you go more in depth on “step printing”?

[@danielp_adams]

@@navarrog sure! It’s when you set the camera and playback at a slower frame rate. In this case I set the camera to 6 fps with a 360 degree shutter. That’s what gives the effect in camera.

[@GONEHIDDEN]

dude ur the best

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! glad you enjoyed it! More coming soon! 😎

[@somoscrispy]

You my boy Blue, you my boy!

[@jmalmsten]

Those perfectly still reel change marks (akacigarette burns) bothers me more than they have any right to... :D

[@Iloveak123]

This video is recommended to me and while watching I thought a video with quality this high is usually coming from a channel that has at least 100k subs. 😂😂 Keep at it and you will get there!!

[@danielp_adams]

Wow thanks for the kind words! Doing it for the love of filming pretty much haha literal zero return 😂🫠

[@cleverghostchili]

Nicely done, been looking for a zoom forever. Hope this isn’t the last

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching Ghost! Won't be the last for sure ;)

[@WillvonTagen]

Great video man. Thanks :)

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching! Cheers!

[@jamesandcamera]

I shoot S16 digital too, super fun. Much more affordable lenses if you know a trick or two and where to look. I got a 21x S16 Cinezoom that cost a bare fraction of what I spent on an old old old 10x S35 cinezoom. I would go the S16 zoom any day of the week, now over S35 cinezoom. 21x ratio and a full macro switch is just too good to give up.

[@danielp_adams]

That's awesome! it seems to me that old s16 zooms were made with a lot more features and versatile uses in mind. Also the size and weight difference vs. s35 zooms is crazy! Thanks for watching!

[@alibirang9921]

Amazing

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@alibirang9921]

I know the fact your video is graded very well(Halation, grain and…, but is that only the lens that made your video looks so natural, filmic and so real as negative(Film) ? Cause I have seen a lot of tutorials and so far none of them have been even close to your real filmic vibe that can not be explained by words:)

[@danielp_adams]

@@alibirang9921 thanks! It’s a mix of a bunch of things. Shooting 16mm crop sensor changes the way you shoot (deeper depth of field). The lens helps a lot in the way it renders the image (sharp but not digital) and the colors it produces. And the final touch is the color grade. When it all comes together you can achieve this look 👍🏼

[@alibirang9921]

@@danielp_adams thanks a bilion

[@adriancrespo4274]

I've never met another DoP from CR! thank you for taking such gorgeous footage of my home country also that ziess lens is lovely, still tons of character stopped down, how did you feel about it wide open?

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks for watching! It's a very sharp lens even wide open all through the zoom range. It makes the s16 crop mode look like 4k footage. Cheers!

[@nicholasboule5134]

Great video, great lens. Only downside is this lens about to jump in price.

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! I don’t think I’ll have that effect with such a small channel haha

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! I don’t think I’ll have that effect with such a small channel haha

[@samuelguce]

Great zcam use, going to get the 5:1 meteor EF’d and try some myself!! From a S6 and K3 user

[@danielp_adams]

That sounds rad! i've seen some nice stuff with the Meteor and the K3, very tempted to pick one up to shoot some actual 16mm film 👍👍👍. Share the footage when you can!

[@samuelguce]

@@danielp_adams I'll let you know how it goes - I removed the loop formers myself with a little bit of anxiety but all worked well so far as I know - Going to do a bunch of tests for my first roll - will share when dev'd :)

[@danielp_adams]

@@samuelguce definitely share when it’s done!

[@Eavenuetv]

why sweat it mate, the bmpcc og or digital bolex are super 16, and has that film look 100 percent.

[@danielp_adams]

Yeah but I don’t have that camera haha I used what I got 😎. The lens is the magic for sure 👍🏼

[@Kickit2000]

I love this fact in your shots, that the playback seems slightly fast .. makes it very authentic. Did u do this on purpose?

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! Some shots are yeah 😎

[@guidedvisionsmedia]

What fluid head do you use? Great video!

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! I use a Sachtler ACE head. It’s pretty basic but does the job 🤙🏼

[@ignaciocampos9785]

When is the movie coming out!!!! Epic video bro!

[@danielp_adams]

Haha thanks for watching Nacho! 🎉 just waiting for the script 😜

[@redbeardproductions-kevind9806]

I also have a Z Cam F6. I see you have a "S16" option as well as a "S16 16:9" option. I only have on super 16mm option, and it is "S16 16:9". So I'm curious about the "S16" option... what is the difference, and why don't I have it? Thanks.

[@danielp_adams]

The insert was done with the original E2 which has those two modes. Everything was shot on the F6. The F6 only has one mode (16:9). Cheers!

[@petet66]

Great video! How much was the lens?

[@danielp_adams]

Thanks! You can find this same lens in the 2K - 4K range. There are a bunch of versions. The one you want (and the one I have) is the latest generation type II.

[@MrMassimomoni]

hi , nice video...which framerate did you used?

[@danielp_adams]

Hi thanks! I used 24 fps 👍🏼

[@runnerone5358]

Zoom in and out in 2024 🎉

[@vanraz]

You just convinced me to buy that Angenieux 12-120 f 2.2 lens I was eyeing for a while :) the zeiss from your video was out of my budget sadly.

[@danielp_adams]

The Angenieux 12-120 was one of my options! it's definitely a great choice with a great look also 👍

[@vanraz]

@@danielp_adams yup, seems like a cheaper option :)

[@vanraz]

@@danielp_adamsI just got it, very slight vignette midway trought the zoom (Lumix S5iix in 1080p mode) but works well. I guess this will be mainly a tripod use lens. Need to find a way/tool to use the zoom ring more easily.

[@danielp_adams]

@@vanraz that’s great! Share your footage when you can! for sure a tripod lens haha, I use the tilta nucleus for smooth zooms 👍🏼

[@vanraz]

@@danielp_adamsI was thinking about using a follow focus but need to find a gear for this lens, sadly it is not geared like your zeiss :) Will share when I have something decent with it haha

[@brennanmartignoni4192]

So what was your color process for this? Looks similar to cineprint

[@danielp_adams]

I used Dehancer for most of it, thanks for watching 👍🏼🤙🏼

[@somoscrispy]

😍😍😍

[@berlinbluestar]

How did you color grade the clips? Do you use any plugin?

[@danielp_adams]

Yup, used the Dehancer plugin 🤙🏼

[@kolecava]

Have you seen "The Holdovers" ?

[@danielp_adams]

Not yet! It looks great, Paul Giammatti is so good always.

[@kolecava]

@@danielp_adams the film emulation is spectacular. Of course the sound, wardrobe etc plays a huge roll but damn, best emulation I've ever seen.

[@danielp_adams]

@@kolecava I’ll be watching it for sure! Was it shot on digital?

[@AleGoyenaga]

Conoche San Jose de noche

[@danielp_adams]

jaja gracias mi broooo! 🧡🧡🧡

[@velkillmer]

9:28 ninja

[@danielp_adams]

Guy was tripping for sure haha

[@butaleo]

please next time upload in 4k to get less compression! thanks

[@danielp_adams]

Hi! this is uploaded in 4K 😎. Thanks for watching!

[@butaleo]

@@danielp_adams oh, my TV didnt show it 😬 Great job!

[@The-Travel-Man]

Kodak still makes 16mm film. If you really want to have a 16mm film look, you don't go through pains and expense of buying a single telephoto lens, you buy/rent a Bolex camera and a bunch of Kodak Vision film stock instead. Kudos for trying, but it is not a visible grainy 16mm look, nor is it the experience. Lewis Potts as in his namesake channel, shows how to achieve a real 16mm look with the real 16mm film camera.

[@danielp_adams]

Yeah that’s great, for sure shooting on actual film would achieve … the film look. That’s not what this video is about, but thanks for watching anyways 🤙🏼

[@woodywu931]

So you didn't shoot on 16mm film, you shot on a lens for 16mm cameras...?

[@danielp_adams]

That’s correct 👍🏼

[@McShoeGlue]

All this zooming hurting my head, too much camera movement. Let the action happen! Zooms are for convenience not constant movement.

[@danielp_adams]

Well, it’s a video showcasing the lens, on a normal shoot I wouldn’t use the in camera zooms thaaaaat much. But thanks for watching 🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@McShoeGlue]

@@danielp_adams yeah man I get it, I think it would have shined a little more if we could see the optical characteristics rather than just the mechanical features.

[@McShoeGlue]

I mean we can see the optical characteristics but I’m found it hard to ingest. Just my thought, otherwise nice job ✌️

[@danielp_adams]

That’s cool, I appreciate the thoughts 🤙🏼

[@moondrop.agency]

So we've been down the same rabbit hole and I want to recommend a few Lenses that have similar qualities on a tighter budget: SOLIGOR MC ZOOM MACRO 28-80mm f/3.4-4.5 {M42} RMC Tokina 35-70mm f/3.5 {FD}

[@danielp_adams]

Awesome thanks! But I was really looking for that classic 10x range. Are these parfocal?