Shopgirls- The True Story of Life Behind the Counter- E02 Revolution on the Floor

[@karinecarde1254]

Brilliant series. This lady makes all her shows special. She's the best!!!

[@SwedeProof]

She's fabulous, conveying genuine empathy for Victorian-era servants and shopgirls.

[@sharonballantyne1735]

And "The paradise" made it look so lovely ..I liked that show!!

[@mindakahn9964]

Sharon Ballantyne I loved the show too, but read Emile Zola’s book. It’s wonderful.

[@giselematthews7949]

that was about a store in Paris France

[@wendyeames5758]

@@giselematthews7949 the show had relocated the story to England. I wonder if Paris treated their shop girls better?

[@lesliehicks743]

Loved this episode! A nice bookend to the series "Servants: The Truce Story of Life Below Stairs" showing how the women went from being in service to working in stores. Also fascinated at the concept of "living in" workers that was the norm.

[@serenitycuracao8026]

I love this historian’s presentation. I’ve watched her episodes on being in service along with this topic. Great presentation & I’ve learned so much 😃

[@robbinpapalucas6613]

No human will ever be paid their worth for each human is priceless.

[@jmartin6552]

you should start your own business and be the example of how to pay priceless humans.

[@kolonarulez5222]

Looks like treating retail workers like garbage is a centuries old tradition. That's depressing.

[@zubaydaharoun]

Yes, you're right

[@csteele24]

Yes they speak about how not making sales quota was ground for termination as being shocking and unthinkable and a relic of the past when workers had no rights. Yet there are several companies that still practice this today.

[@jmartin6552]

@@csteele24 It is only horrible when it affects women. Men can get canned for any reason. Just 'equal' women have to be treated special because they're 'better, stronger and smarter'. You dont have a 'right' to have a sales job and not sell. LOL @ 'shocking an unthinkable'

[@bluecat3103]

J Martin oh,oh someone got triggered by the word "shopgirl "

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

When I worked in retail, the training was extremely minimal and even though my first post was at a hallowed department store, it brought me zero status. In fact, some shoppers 9nly a few) went out of their way to show disdain. I worked for Hudson and for Jacobson. I simply love beautiful spaces and it was the only way I knew how to be surrounded with beautiful things. Plus, we got generous discounts and could still take the sale price and clearance when I worked for Hudson. It was only Xmas work, unfortunately. I was never able to procure full time, permanent employment there. Today, both have gone out of business or were bought out, basically absorbed by larger corporations. Today, all retailers face bankruptcy and I find it difficult to feel sorry for them. They never cared for their employees and even participated in racism, even in the north, but I gave it my best and ignored the nastiness.

[@srky4346]

The people doing the most work get paid the least...nothing’s changed

[@lone6718]

Thank god for the British development of the Co-op, their principles and ideals helped develop the, now, hundreds of the food, farmers, feed Co-ops in the US. As well as the concept of the living wage, something that all co-ops review at least every other year. We also have staff questionnaires that grade how their bosses are doing.

[@ActionableFreedom]

YE but the movement is sadly dying. It would be the best damn thing to use in the age of IT/Systems Science (due to rapid and simplified logistics) but I have been busting my balls looking for a place like this to work/join. Tragic. And unions simply dont translate well into our modern world sadly.

[@miriamhavard7621]

That last part!!!!

[@wendyeames5758]

I've looked to join a co-op but there aren't any around me. With the popularity of urban and suburban gardening and homesteading, I think it would be neat to have a hybrid of a co-op and the old Grange system. It'd be great if people could get discounts, and lessons for self-reliant living.

[@wmr9019]

Very good documentary over 100 years later we appear to have gone backwards most people's wages have not increased in 10-years, MPs have had an 80% pay rise since 1999, I am a professional engineer my wages have only gone up by 10% in the same time period so something going wrong

[@hellooutthere8956]

You think it is bad there you should be here.

[@ajrwilde14]

the story of the shopgirl who became an MP was amazing, I wish this was the kind of history we had learnt at school

[@Merrida100]

"You've all done very well!" …."Thank you Mr. Grace!"

[@StoriesbyIrish]

Lmao! Glad I'm not the only one xD

[@theresesprinkle2103]

Thank you for the history lesson. Very interesting .

[@anaitali8256]

The so-called ‘Capitalism’ was described accurately by the 13th Century scholastic giant, Imam Ghazali, and it is relevant today. ‘If one purchases that, which one does not need, then one has stolen from one’s self,

[@jmartin6552]

Yeah its far better for individuals to be told what they need or dont need .. and forced by law not to have what is 'stolen from one's self'. AKA socialism. The love of the feeble minded to be ruled over is a phenomenon that no 'scholastic giant' could ever explain.

[@bluecat3103]

J Martin You got some serious issues pal.

[@ajrwilde14]

that's not capitalism that's just greed

[@zephyrsky__]

That's amazing, finding your liberation through chippy papers

[@lindamac7465]

Very good documentary!

[@fred6319]

no expense spared except the workers wages

[@pinkythechihuahua3156]

I've somehow lost the first episode, so I'll have to say my piece here. In the US this is working "retail". Retail is dominated by women. I worked for Wal Mart for 6.5 years. All the bad press you've heard about WM is TRUE! In order to keep my job I worked off the clock as a department head, which only means you get $1 more an hour, and you get steady hours unless you're needed to set modulars. Then you get to work from 10pm til 7am. No one gets to sit down. Being a cashier is very hard on the back, legs and feet. The only place I have ever seen where a cashier is able to sit down is Aldi. So what's changed over the last 200 years? Nothing. We are still treated as second class citizens. Underpaid. Taken advantage of. Lied to. Given promises that were never kept, and pay raises that are a total joke. Thanks to retail work, I have been on disability for almost 2 decades. One last example, I needed to have a hyterectomy. I was told that I would have to wait a month because inventory was coming up! I told them to stuff it. I had that hyterectomy. I got labeled as a trouble maker.

[@marztar]

Lol you can't expect FAIR or RIGHTS when you're part of the bottom of the barrel of the work force. You didn't take an education seriously and now you're paying for it. Don't cry about it. Get your ass into night school and LEARN SOMETHING. The society we live in now rewards those who seek to utilize their minds and add INNOVATION to the world. Uneducated repetitive jobs are thus destined to get replaced with AUTOMATION.

[@laurabogar3956]

Your comments are disgraceful. How is it, you assume, that someone is supposed to have the funds to get an education on the wages paid by retail work. Not to mention the abuse of hours and time such places incur. Many retail workers are quite educated and have found it difficult to find employment in their respective fields of study. I think it would be wise to further educate yourself before spitting any more vitriol towards a situation you do not understand.

[@marztar]

@@laurabogar3956 truth is EDUCATION matters. If you care for your position in the work force only an education will help you move upwards. Put aside statistics of people working low end jobs while qualified for better... that's still poor choices from that individual. You CAN NOT DENY that education is the ONE TRUE OPTION for a person wanting a better life. Excuses as to why that option is not viable are just excuses. If a person wants to improve they will take action and stop playing victim. Crying about it only does more damage to the individual by carrying the stress of an existence extremely dissatisfied. She even made clear that she has had a type of disability because of that job. Yet still chooses to do nothing about it. Maybe my comment will offend her.. (if she is as fragile as you) or maybe it might trigger a bit of DETERMINATION within her to say ... "he's fcken right... I got to make moves to get my ass out of that shithole..."

[@marztar]

@serendipidus1 Yes well done for realizing that there is a hierarchy system and that regardless of the position anyone holds, anyone can go either up or down. That's why my point is relevant. There are opportunities if one takes ACTION. Someone ultimately has to fill a shity job yes but that wasn't my message. It's that playing victim doesn't change your situation. Your comment is thoughtful and I respect your opinion but it's too SJW for me to agree with you. Fairness is something we all interpret differently. There's reward in achievement because achievements don't come easy. If it was all easy then there's no drive to achieve anything. I don't agree with many of the systems we have created and the western way is definitely reaching boiling point.. but solving that is part of our evolution. Change depends on how much the people desire change. People who just complain don't actually want to be the action... they hope someone else makes it happen for them.

[@missdemeanor3524]

I worked as a cashier for Michael's. One day I called in sick bc I had pinkeye. It was gross: bright red, swollen mostly shut & oozing pus. My manager said I had to come in anyway! I explained to her exactly how awful I looked and that I was contagious, but she didn't care. I got fired for no-show. BFD.

[@Canuckmom128]

You have to chuckle at old Maggie Thatcher and her disingenuous attempts at trying to persuade the working classes that she was "one of them". If Thatcher had her way there would be NO Labour Unions and probably no NHS. The son of the Store owner who began profit sharing for his employees may have been grumpy, but was certainly WELL ahead of his time, and quite revolutionary in recognizing that employees having a vested interest in the company doing well meant a better run, more profitable business. Those poor girls who had to "live in" - like indentured slaves. 😣

[@LynxSouth]

I'm not even British and I can't bring myself to laugh at Thatcher or what she did to so many, especially the coal miners.

[@jaifletcher2969]

Wonderful doc

[@iseejewelz3874]

so basically nothing has changed

[@deliciaestes8555]

Greed and abuse have been around since the beginning of time. People are so vile.😬

[@skooterfd]

Is it just me or is the audio slightly out of sync with the video? At least it's in focus as some of these made for TV Doc's aren't!

[@DarioAntonio626]

Yes it's definitely out-of-sync.

[@karenbaily]

Not just you! Definitely out of sync!

[@Luna.3.3.3]

Yes, the audio is out of sync. A shame, it's maddening for me... lol, a distraction to a good doc

[@rosemarydudley9954]

No, it's not just you. I noticed it too. 2019...

[@devinisdead4061]

👄 👄 👄 👄...9 seconds later, yes it is out of sync.

[@andreahanson7770]

Nothing has changed at Mark's and spencer

[@3monsters014]

They are describing walmart pretty well.

[@jmartin6552]

Walmart workers are a meme for one of the worst workers on the planet.

[@paulstovall3777]

In this day and age of technology, it must take work to get audio/visual tracks out of sync. Otherwise, an excellent documentary.

[@sonyahdepasse9424]

You genuinely made me chuckle, thankyou!

[@tchrisou812]

My favorite thing about escalators is that they never break down..........they just become stairs for awhile maybe

[@oncoucharrest5910]

tchrisou812 I spent longer at the mall one day than I was supposed to, my hubby was at home with the baby, I told him the escalator broke down and I was stuck there for an hour. He didn’t buy it lol.

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

Nowadays, the conservative answer to employees who want better working conditions is that its the employees' responsibility to leave the job if they don't like it. Now how does that improve anything? It doesn't. That's why we need labor laws. Government being on the side of the employers never has and never will trickle down any benefits to labor.

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

Thank you for this expose'. Nothing we currently enjoy can be taken for granted. Every good turn in the western world, improving the lives of common folk has come with great effort. Revolution doesn't come alone with being dissatisfied. A sense of kinsmanship must exist or we never act collectively. In that, we stay oppressed. Today, retailers don't fair much better. I worked retail off and on for around 10 years from 1982. I was never satisfied. I felt insignificant and doomed, b/c I liked the work; I just didn't like the terms of doing so.

[@hellooutthere8956]

The British are still class bound.

[@mastermooky]

and racist as hell

[@northsouth252]

And proud

[@jmartin6552]

Its too bad they aren't tribes warring (rather than groups separated) where it would be considered perfectly ok.

[@jmartin6552]

@@mastermooky Yeah. Why cant they be like Africa or China where they have many races living in peace? Ugh .... wh7te peepol.

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

and the USA is too. "only the rich deserve respect" or at least that's what conservatives would have you believe.

[@MS-cg1mj]

I think that red and grey are her favorite colors.

[@BKirkpatrick]

4:54 wait whaaaaat that lady is one of my college professors!

[@louise-yo7kz]

Escalators scared me for a long time

[@philomelodia]

louise I wiped out on some escalators once. I''d had about six or seven drinks too many that night. I was going up the escalator. I zoned out. And I landed on my ass when they reach the top and I didn't get off in time. I had lots of fun that evening though, my embarrassing little episode not withstanding.

[@louise-yo7kz]

@@philomelodia oh nooo

[@skylar_kada]

My grandma scared me about escalators when I was 5 by saying that if I didn’t jump off in time, my foot would get stuck and the escalator would chew me up...all to make sure I didn’t get hurt...😑 I believed it and would jump off them for years! 😂

[@Merrida100]

Ha! Mine too! What's with our grandparents scaring the bejeezus out of their little grandkids? I was warned about showing my navel (a bird would make a nest) or swallowing a watermelon seed (it would grow in my belly). What's up with that? lol @@skylar_kada

[@skylar_kada]

Merrida100 omg! I was scared off about sthing to do with my belly button too! And the whole swallowing seeds one! Lol don’t they have any creativity? They all use the same scare tactics 😆. But I’m rly relieved somehow to hear there are other ppl out there who’ve been scared of escalators since they were kids. Makes me feel like I’m not the only one 😝 😂

[@mindakahn9964]

As a retailer I listen to this and everything they did with their staff of associates was counter productive to making money. It’s so obvious I want to bang my head against the wall. So antediluvian.

[@marztar]

How's it "counter productive to making money" Paying workers under is the oldest way to increase profits for business owners. It's still happening today. It's why immigration is booming around the world. The third world sees a shity minimum wage as a 50x pay rise compared to what they get before they're imported into the west as cheap workers.

[@hellooutthere8956]

Yeah once you remove slave status of your employees and treat them decently profit goes out the window right?

[@7777777roma]

Harrods Lord Lovat Scotland GOD bless you all

[@Merrida100]

Oh my! Why did they serve all these ladies chocolate cake, but no silverware? Was it just for "image"? Here we go again.....keeping up appearances?

[@-Reagan]

Haha! Seeing your comment right at the very part of the video, I was noticing that, too!

[@ann-carolinemorner6405]

The gas was turned of for security.

[@mitziharris9236]

Just watched “Mr. Selfridge”!

[@jason60chev]

Were the shop girls allowed to take a dump during the day or were they docked pay for that, too?

[@BioshockChar]

Probably ... ladies don't poo

[@-Reagan]

I was wondering when - in the 15 min between waking and breakfast or closing shop and mandatory lights-out they were supposed to bathe! I think pooping and peeing is out of the question. It must've been a very smelly shopping experience.

[@Matty06001]

@@Hibiscus123 Yep, gotta go fast.

[@V.Hansen.]

All they got to eat was bread and butter so I guess that only makes a bm about once a week.

[@thesparklingunicorn8543]

Its amazing how much has changed with women being better educated now than it was back in the Victorian times and Edwardian period s

[@heyitsme6067]

So basically working at Target is still the same....

[@amypoucher9620]

Can't live off mim wages now.

[@Matty06001]

@serendipidus1 Oh, Repub Trumpkins, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'd give ANYTHING to throw your ass into a tedious, skanky minimum wage job and see how you like it. Although by the stupidity of your spelling and grammar I suspect you're not capable of working at all.

[@lindainglis8506]

I’d rather be a shop girl than a factory worker. Hard work is not unjust slavery. It is how the world works sans the whip.

[@Cangeltibon]

Linda Inglis Aren’t you just the proper capitalist.

[@AlexisMitchell87]

Sisters doing it for theirselves.

[@everythingviral972]

themselves

[@richardsmith2627]

LOVE BEAMISH!

[@flossie5432]

And BLISTS HILL ,a rebuilt victorian town at Ironbridge Gorge in Shropshire...Brilliant day out.,

[@laurametheny1008]

Thank you!😂

[@Adriano-tc2li]

Episode list. 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5e8mYqtmJd3gNU 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIaUi5ZmjbKJpZI 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKzonaJnc2ch5Y

[@ann-carolinemorner6405]

Harsh treatment? They risked the lives of other people.

[@trainrover]

I'd supposed my mum'd been lying about the 20-storey height of Détroit's Hudson department store.

[@marciaricksgers2018]

Toward the end of the video, the question “what IS rayon?” is asked. It’s answered very badly~ “manmade”. Very simplistic. It’s a manmade fiber from a natural product~ cellulose.

[@Patricia-zt8ub]

and in most cases is a horrible, cheap fabric, that does not hold up well.

[@marciaricksgers2018]

Patricia Manzi that’s true today, but it was an amazing staple from the 20s through the 70s, before polyester and nylon took over. It was often called “artificial silk”.

[@arbel7655]

I think it's a lovely material (or maybe rather "can be"?) with fluidity and weight. Its care is a pain though.

[@Startrekker6231]

Attacking their own mothers, sisters & daughters. The patriarchy is & has always been the weakest link.

[@markvines7308]

Pity the sync can't be fixed

[@tokyobear]

Lovely doc. Unfortunately the speaking/picture are out-of-sync. Unfortunately really distracting for me, so I had to stop watching after a while

[@geoffupton]

jeezzz sound is out of sync with vid! lol

[@hellooutthere8956]

In England the shop assistants get commission or they use to. Never got commission here in the united states. Terrible terrible nation.

[@heathereileenoquin]

53:55 "what IS 'rayon'? still unanswered

[@heathereileenoquin]

www.teonline.com/knowledge-centre/manufacturing-process-rayon.html

[@TemeryN]

simply put it's chemically treated wood pulp =)

[@tundrawomansays5067]

A damn PITA of a material susceptible to terminal wrinkling.

[@marylouroberts4645]

Shity cheap shiny material

[@LynxSouth]

@@tundrawomansays5067 Yeah, they make crushed velvet and crinkle cotton. Why not create 'wrinkly rayon' and make everyone's lives easier?

[@trainrover]

Had she bought her meal at any counter over here, then there'd undoubtedly have been a tip jar in plain sight.

[@hellooutthere8956]

The employers take the tips over there.

[@ajrwilde14]

food servers get proper wages and holidays here so they don't need tips yay socialism

[@DeerheartStudioArts]

come on techs, get the audio in sync

[@BbBb-cl5py]

Turn the volume off and lipread . V

[@DeerheartStudioArts]

audio out of sync boooooo

[@victoriakelly5531]

Where is episode 3?

[@tuezmoi]

I can't find it. :(

[@lone6718]

Victoria Kelly like another person said, you have to google it using the full title.

[@Adriano-tc2li]

The episode 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKzonaJnc2ch5Y

[@sophiepasarin3095]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKzonaJnc2ch5Y :)

[@sonyahdepasse9424]

@@Adriano-tc2li Thankyou 🤗

[@fred6319]

the men where given their jobs back except the poor sods that were killed

[@IGUniverse]

The american onwers were cruel with their staff

[@hellooutthere8956]

So tht is wht a co op is. I have long wondered. Why do ppl look down on a co op?

[@strawberrytart3540]

There is audio but no video

[@1501Anne]

I was really looking forward to this & lots of images or film of the past. The presenter seemed to be more in the documentary than anything else. They should take a leaf out of David Attenborough documentaries, he makes it about the documentary not about himself as this lady does.

[@jvee6683]

Did she buy lunch for everyone

[@richardwilmotph.d6747]

Sound Not in sync.

[@hellooutthere8956]

The British love tht tea and cake. Yuk. I tried but it was too much sugar for me. I like herbal teas. Couldn't find many herbal teas.

[@ajrwilde14]

supermarkets have loads of herbal teas

[@sirvahntahvgawd4792]

The Great deception and Grand illusion is upon Mankind. Seek Yeshua out before its too late.

[@meeksde]

Sirvahnt AhvGawd your religion is delusional

[@kidddee544]

@@meeksde There is no delusion in illusion, Seek Yeshua

[@kidddee544]

@@meeksde There is no illusion in delusion, Jesus rules.

[@meeksde]

Kidd Dee You can’t make up your mind about delusions and illusions. You can’t make up your mind if what you believe is an illusion or whether your deluded. The answer is yes. Yeshua... Jesus...you don’t even know what he’ll answer to. Guess you better cover your ass lest you know who gets pissy.

[@coyensumaje2135]

weaver

[@rvail136]

The woman who is narrating this is so prounion/socialist/SJW she's started to discredit herself. Too much the academic, too little working in the real world. BTW, I have a Ph.D. in History, so I know a great deal about the academic mindset. Needless to say, I haven't the politically correct view point to work in academia any more.

[@Cangeltibon]

Richard Vail Sir with your degree in history no less do you not see the irony of saying someone is a socialist while they speak of the working class. You are an academic so out of touch with the working class that you don’t understand how important socialism was to the worker.

[@rvail136]

@@Cangeltibon You ASSume I'm an academic. I've worked as a cabinetmaker for the past 25 years. So much for assumptions...

[@bluecat3103]

Richard Vail Yeah, like I'm pretending to be a Puma.

[@Cangeltibon]

Richard Vail Well you are proving to be an a**, I called you an academic because YOU shared that you have a phd in History to give yourself the heir authority on the topic, not surprising that you are doing what you claimed the “SJW” of doing. Funny that.

[@rvail136]

@@Cangeltibon Ahhh, since you can't actually present an argument, you reduce yourself to name calling. Very intelligent. If you have to use ad hominem attacks, you have nothing useful to contribute. I spent 15 years in academia. I left because I chose not to teach that socialism and communism are the wave of the future. In the US, if you can't do that, you won't succeed as a college professor. It's that simple. I wasn't willing to compromise my morals to teach. You obviously aren't particularly well educated, as opposed to being indoctrinated. Well done lass. You get the brass ring.

[@maxlinder5262]

SHE NEEDS A STYLIST.................

[@zephyrsky__]

You need to stay in your lane

[@oncoucharrest5910]

Max Linder she’s a doctor not a supermodel

[@everythingviral972]

@@oncoucharrest5910 She holds a doctorate in history, she is not a "doctor".

[@Merrida100]

Why? What's wrong with her? She's fine just the way she is.

[@Merrida100]

Uhm,....yeah. That's called being "a doctor." @@everythingviral972

[@veritas6335]

Interesting, but out of sync. Dr Cox gives us vital and absorbing pieces on the culture of domestic service and of shop girls, etc., but if she wishes to be an on screen personality, she needs to get her teeth fixed. Bad teeth distract from the presentation.

[@Gempopsicle]

Unbelievable. What a ridiculous comment!

[@Merrida100]

Good God, what a shallow comment. She's fine just the way she is. No one needs to "fix" her.

[@finehomemadewine]

Dr. Cox is a British on-screen personality and she is absolutely perfect in that.

[@donnachizewsky6390]

Quit harping on their teeth! Brits don’t worry about braces like Americans! Take a look at a lot of their actors’s teeth! Their priorities are different!

[@sonyahdepasse9424]

Real women lift each other up.