Shopping cart jail: Stores face fines to reclaim abandoned carts - even if they were stolen

Had trouble finding a shopping cart lately? Some stores are having trouble keeping them on lots because people keep stealing them. Now, laws intended to keep cities free of abandoned carts may be contributing to the problem - by charging stores fines to reclaim them.
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[@mrsw2923]

Seattle never fails to disappoint. Instead of notifying stores that they have found their stolen equipment they punish them for being robbed.

[@melioristicone333]

Not just Seattle though, this is national. I work across the continental US yearly. Not just drug addicts taking them either as this video chose to word it. I've seen many people with $50,000 trucks mid 30s to mid 40s steal carts off the corner of lots. From LA to Philadelphia Metropolis to towns of a quarter of million in the heartland... Ignoring the subject of carts and exploring theft across the country, it would seem our issue is societal. Why does everyone say theft is so bad in public forums, and then engage in the behavior themselves?

[@mattwaters9008]

lmao fr

[@mattwaters9008]

@@melioristicone333 You say that as if everyone is stealing shopping carts, most people dont steal shopping carts.

[@melioristicone333]

@@mattwaters9008 literally not everyone of course. Figuratively... Societally, all internet forums are inundated with videos of people stealing s***. Almost five decades I've been alive, the number of thieving bastards per capita is much higher last 10 years or so. I'm going to guess the majority of them don't tell the people around them they are thieving bastards. Otherwise there'd be a lot more people in jail and theft wouldn't be so prevalent lol. Considering the amount of theft versus the number of people caught, one could rightly assume you are in close proximity at any given moment to a thieving bastard that will tell you they are otherwise.

[@richardscott8159]

Anything to rip off the people, they are going to charge you for being a victim of a crime and let the the criminals go free! Now the city is just as much of a criminal, as the criminals that stolen your property in the first place. "Let's Go Brandon"

[@nowhereman7398]

The city should be arresting people for having the carts off store property. Isn't that shoplifting?

[@doneown503]

they are trying to go after whomever has the $$$

[@joshballenger3629]

That would cost more to tax payers. Plus its book n release. Homeless never show up to court

[@SixtiesFan87]

In SF and LA anything under 900$ is a misdemeanor and cannot be arrested

[@1houndgal]

It is stealing.

[@so3683]

@@SixtiesFan87 carts are more than 900and it's not just sf and la it's the entire state that promotes shoplifting and has had these policies for many years

[@highhorseofcourse]

$25 each to recover stolen merchandise is insane. Stop letting people walk away with them.

[@Wulfenburg]

Should stores open fire on cart thieves? :)

[@plinko84]

@@Wulfenburg You are exhausting. You responding like that only shows your lack of cooperation to humankind and progress. Try being helpful instead of sh!tting all over a reply you don't like. Have a lovely day.

[@Wulfenburg]

@@plinko84 I am exhausting, your girlfriend was exhausted after I ploughed her all night. She kept saying how you were so needy and pathetic :( And you have a good day too dude!

[@juliaweber212]

Exactly charge he those who steal

[@Stig007]

Don't think of it as paying $25 to get your $400 cart back think of it as paying for the resources it takes to round up your carts and put them in one area for you to come get them because you didn't hire somebody to go find your carts yourself. These carts aren't lost they know exactly where they are. But they don't wanna get them . Arresting the homeless just waste more money that comes out of the taxes you pay.

[@snortkarl2070]

This is bs , give the company's their STOLEN carts back. Charge the aholes with crimes who actually STOLE THE CARTS.

[@LK-pc4sq]

lol no ! city pays labor income to pickup and transport these carts the tax payer should not have to subsidize this.

[@juliaweber212]

I agree

[@justinmanson2793]

Welcome to Seattle and Portland!

[@auroramothergoddess]

The gov just needs a way to make money

[@thatsawesome2060]

What about company label the cart with their name, so when we see one who push the cart, we will known where it stole it from.

[@ryanjones7681]

They're not allowed to stop people from stealing them. But you charge the store when people steal them? Guess stores are gonna stop having shopping carts to use

[@m9078jk3]

Excellent

[@plinko84]

I would buy my own cart and bring it. Make them collapsible. Anything to not hurt the stores and prevent the bums from being shitty.

[@Kay0Bot]

The stores should just build a moat around all their stores and a drawbridge

[@robertcarmosino6563]

Wait

[@LetsDanceTampa]

@@Kay0Bot that's actually a good idea. Buzz customers out lime in some pawn shops and jewelry stores. When they check out. If the have a cart, the bagger goes with them and bring the cart back.

[@Hiker_who_Sews]

You could blame the thieves, but where's the profit in that? Better to extort the victims who have money. Plain common sense dictates not to destroy something that is useful and will only be replaced by a new item. Hmmm.... it seems to me that the people operating the cart jails are receiving stolen property.

[@steveeddy6876]

Yeeessss! Don't you love our greedy Beaucracts

[@mystikalxs3996]

well said 💯👏

[@davidscott9572]

100 to 1 the town is run by Democrats

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Yup, go after the stores instead……. is the city totally made up of idiots, or are there any smart people trapped by red tape?

[@senorpimps4678]

Glad to see how you finally start to see how things work!

[@johnscott2972]

Similar to allowing theft of retailers and prosecuting those who attempt to stop the thefts and then penalizing the general population with locking up merchandise and receipt checks and all of these other "measures" rather than dealing with the source issue. It's not that hard to hold criminals accountable, there is no validation or argument in favor of these current tactics. Penalizing the victims is wrong, period!

[@kingofkingsmoonpie4075]

Nailed it! Where is Bob the snob furburger? Well I will tell ya. He's trying to stop the moms demand action from humping his leg like a bunch of wild dogs. And taking away our 2nd amendment which will cause more shootings like bu buf Buffalo, Texas, and a like.

[@eileeneclark9011]

6/11/22...Aldi's in Atlanta---where I used to live--- + Central FL---where I now live--- have 🔒/ 🔗 system where ppl put in a quarter + pull out unlocked shopping cart 🛒 to use...THEN after using, ppl put the empty shopping carts 🛒 back + get their quarter back. The parking lot stays clear + nobody's vehicle gets damaged + stores don't have to hire/pay employees to retrieve shopping carts. EVERYBODY SEEMS TO WIN! BUT IT IS NOT FAIR FOR CITIES/ COMMUNITIES/LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PENALIZE STORES FOR STOLEN + ABANDONED CARTS WHEN THEY REGUSE TO CHARGE ILLEGALS + HOMELESS FOR STEALING/USING/ LEAVING THESE CARTS ABANDONED ALL OVER THE PLACE! ESP WHEN THEY DELIBERATELY DESTROY THE DECENT/USABLE/ UNDAMAGED CARTS....THEN PAY RECYCLING BUSINESSES TO HAVE THESE CARTS DEMOLISHED + CHARGE THESE FEES TO THE STORES WITH MISSING CARTS! GOVERNMENT IS UNWILLING TO CHARGE THIEVES/VANDALS BUT SURE ARE QUICK TO BLAME THE VARIOUS STORES + CHARGE THEM FOR ALL THIS NONSENSE!

[@rs6109]

You just know it all, dont ya john, maybe the carts can carry guns and defend them selfs lol

[@jlm3303]

NOBODY checks my receipts.... PERIOD.... ILLEGAL SEARCH..... DO NOT COMPLY.

[@thethingonthedoorstep3464]

@@eileeneclark9011 Yes the Aldi's require the .25 deposit and it helps. I don't live in an affluent neighborhood but many people don't bother to get their money back. They leave the carts in the parking lot or use the .25 to get a cart for their belongings.

[@SeeSaw99]

I own a trucking company and a few times each year, I deliver brand new shopping carts to supermarkets. These are considered "high value" loads because each new cart costs so much. To destroy these carts after they've been stolen is ridiculous and an insult to the grocery stores as well as the people who build them. 🙄

[@LetsDanceTampa]

And adding more unnecessary items to our landfills!

[@juliemorgan4937]

Not helping climate change any what a waste and a scam Its theft

[@XJ9sodypop]

I always appreciate a sturdy piece of equipment, but F these stores tbh. they pay their cart pushers 8/hr and expect them to work outside in the summer 10 hours a day. my coworker was always exhausted. so glad i refused to fill in when he got sick. they should pay for exploiting his mexican ass

[@ohhhreallynow9056]

That is the dumbest thing because if people are stealing them it is not the stores fault. So Seattle decides to punish the stores for criminals actions.

[@foesseauau4178]

Would you let people steal from you?.

[@NormanNorthman]

Are the police actually gonna respond if the store calls and report somebody stealing a cart? Or are the stores supposed to physically take it away from the person, possibly injuring them and facing a lawsuit?! I feel like the government, whether it’s city, state, county or federal defend the criminal and not the tax payers.

[@jerrynadler2883]

The city of Seattle is a giant racket. City officials siphon MILLIONS for themselves and their crony buddies.

[@philipchampion]

That's democratic America for you

[@ronnie32567]

The bastards always have, the damned criminals have more rights than law abiding tax payers

[@mesasandifer838]

@@philipchampion lol when people say this under comment threads does it magically fix the issue at hand? Or

[@theresagomez2605]

@@mesasandifer838 fix it, no. It does explain how we got here though.

[@JK-co4lz]

I do not understand this state. Why is the government, both city and state, penalizing the businesses for legally creating a drug addict's utopia that caused this effect? This is just expediting and amplifying the damages that the legislatures are doing to our ecosystem and economy.

[@fordtuff2600]

Vote Inslee out

[@chrisredfield4017]

VOTE !

[@daleestep9518]

Liberals

[@auroramothergoddess]

The gov just needs a way to make money

[@shiwan45]

Because these states are greedy for money .

[@killer44spl]

How can you destroy someone else's property that was stolen from them

[@starshine3588]

Maybe the Seattle government should be the ones finding and returning the carts to the stores where they were stolen from. The blame isn’t on the stores…and they shouldn’t have to pay fines…..the blame is on the people who run that city and allow crime and criminals to run rampant and also allow homeless people to get away with whatever they want too. That city government should be out working to collect all those carts and return them to the stores by their own hands. Hold those accountable who are accountable…..none of the stores are guilty of anything.

[@luvncolo2075]

SOLUTION: Do Like Aldi's in the South (KY) The Carts are lined up with padlocks on each/with slot for quarter/. It costs the consumer 25 cents to get a cart /Then you get your Quarter back when you return your cart/ and padlock it to get your quarter . PROBLEM SOLVED. Also no cart chasing or vehicle damage from runaway carts.

[@bhazerelli7611]

In Washington State that wouldn't help...people constantly give money to addicts and homeless so they will have no problem acquiring quarters to get a cart with....

[@LK-pc4sq]

IS this the same ALDI from Europe????

[@Stig007]

@@bhazerelli7611 But is the city kicking homeless people out of their carts to take them and impound them? Or was this video just about abandoned carts. Carts that ghetto people or the homeless have taken and then left unused somewhere else.

[@vanrajsindha9918]

we shopped at aldi in coralville Iowa same thing quarter in quarter out

[@9thplace612]

Aldi's in the Midwest is the same

[@phays10]

This is... This is so stupid. It's hard to imagine this policy is real.

[@ronkostars4258]

It's the democrats... again.

[@Stig007]

I'm sorry but asking the city or a personal individual to do work for a retail entity for free is stupid. It takes time fuel and other resources to round up these carts.

[@tibedog5629]

It's illegal for me to recycle a cart without showing proof I didn't steal it. Yet it's okay for the city to impound a stolen cart and then recycle the stolen cart. Wow.

[@kingofkingsmoonpie4075]

That's Washington state for you, it's stolen property and the state makes a profit not only from taxes that are paid but financial gain from policing stores for more money with fines. Just a thought, what if someone took a cart from that "cart jail"? Would that be called a jailbreak? And now that the person has said cart, is that person harboring a fugitive and be sent to prison? Slippery slope council members.

[@timfeeley714-25]

What about the carts rights ???

[@LK-pc4sq]

walmart can pay for it ...stop supporting Fasshist companies! Though Walmart is a publicly traded company, more than 50 percent of its shares are in the hands of the Walton family - 51.11 percent, to be precise. These shares are controlled primarily through two entities: Walton Family Holdings Trust and a holding company, Walton Enterprises. Members of the Walton family also have shares they control individually. The three most prominent members of the family are Jim, S. Robson (Rob) and Alice, each estimated to be worth about $46 billion. They are the surviving children of Sam Walton, co-founder of the company. Other members of the family include Ann Walton Kroenke and Nancy Walton Laurie, children of Bud Walton, the other co-founder; Christy Walton, the widow of one of Sam’s sons; and 10 grandchildren (such as Lukas, worth about $16 billion, and Steuart, who is on the company’s board of directors).

[@Living_Despite]

There actually is several solutions. Airports figured out decades ago. Deposits. Not only would it fix the problem but you would incentivise customers to return carts rather then have baggers collect them.

[@blackicex1622]

How do we know that the people that own these shopping cart “jails” aren’t paying the homeless to steal them???

[@dreamerofhanuman]

This is such a stunning example of government stepping in and making a problem so much worse.

[@geebert23]

this what happen when you dont punish thieves

[@masonjarhillbilly]

Police will not bother to arrest the thieves when they see it happening.

[@chrisredfield4017]

Don't blame the Police. They do not make policy. The elected officials do

[@masonjarhillbilly]

@@chrisredfield4017 Police enforce laws. They do not get to pick and choose which ones. RCW 9A.56.270. (1) It is unlawful to do any of the following acts, if a shopping cart has a permanently affixed sign as provided in subsection (2) of this section: (a) To remove a shopping cart from the parking area of a retail establishment with the intent to deprive the owner of the shopping cart the use of the cart; or (b) To be in possession of any shopping cart that has been removed from the parking area of a retail establishment with the intent to deprive the owner of the shopping cart the use of the cart. (2) This section shall apply only when a shopping cart: (a) Has a sign permanently affixed to it that identifies the owner of the cart or the retailer, or both; (b) notifies the public of the procedure to be utilized for authorized removal of the cart from the premises; (c) notifies the public that the unauthorized removal of the cart from the premises or parking area of the retail establishment, or the unauthorized possession of the cart, is unlawful; and (d) lists a telephone number or address for returning carts removed from the premises or parking area to the owner or retailer. (3) Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor. (1) It is unlawful to do any of the following acts, if a shopping cart has a permanently affixed sign as provided in subsection (2) of this section: (a) To remove a shopping cart from the parking area of a retail establishment with the intent to deprive the owner of the shopping cart the use of the cart; or (b) To be in possession of any shopping cart that has been removed from the parking area of a retail establishment with the intent to deprive the owner of the shopping cart the use of the cart. (2) This section shall apply only when a shopping cart: (a) Has a sign permanently affixed to it that identifies the owner of the cart or the retailer, or both; (b) notifies the public of the procedure to be utilized for authorized removal of the cart from the premises; (c) notifies the public that the unauthorized removal of the cart from the premises or parking area of the retail establishment, or the unauthorized possession of the cart, is unlawful; and (d) lists a telephone number or address for returning carts removed from the premises or parking area to the owner or retailer. (3) Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor.

[@AlyssaMartiniMusic]

I’m getting more confused the more I try to understand this situation

[@Jedimindset]

Just keeping running the businesses away. Yep that's the plan. 🤬 Stupid! Why punish retailers?

[@LK-pc4sq]

Walmart can afford it Though Walmart is a publicly traded company, more than 50 percent of its shares are in the hands of the Walton family - 51.11 percent, to be precise. These shares are controlled primarily through two entities: Walton Family Holdings Trust and a holding company, Walton Enterprises. Members of the Walton family also have shares they control individually. The three most prominent members of the family are Jim, S. Robson (Rob) and Alice, each estimated to be worth about $46 billion. They are the surviving children of Sam Walton, co-founder of the company. Other members of the family include Ann Walton Kroenke and Nancy Walton Laurie, children of Bud Walton, the other co-founder; Christy Walton, the widow of one of Sam’s sons; and 10 grandchildren (such as Lukas, worth about $16 billion, and Steuart, who is on the company’s board of directors).

[@Jedimindset]

@@LK-pc4sq it’s still stupid

[@chrisredfield4017]

VOTE !

[@Stig007]

It's $400 for a new cart. That's a huge expense you would figure that they would protect their investment a bit better. . . The resources they use to round up these carts and hold them or crush them doesn't come from nowhere it's not free the labor is charged and if the city is doing it it's just coming out of your tax money taxes that could be spent elsewhere so either pay the $25 to get your cart back which is a bargain compared to how much a new one costs or let it go to crush and pay for that . Small businesses will suffer a little bit but again replacing a cart that is gone is more expensive than just paying $25 to get it . You can't pick and choose on who these fees apply to Everybody has to be treated equally so big retail giants have to be treated the same as small businesses in regards to certain Instances. . . Do you really want a big retail giant benefiting from free taxpayer funded labor or do you want them to pay their way like everybody else?

[@hazmat2277]

@@Stig007 it's a punishment for having your property stolen no matter how you look at it.

[@emberhusky6878]

Destroy them ? Give them back ! I mean it's easier than destroying them.

[@LK-pc4sq]

Then the retailers can PAY THE CITY the back labor for picking up the carts and storing them!!!

[@arbiterofperil]

I watched a woman drive an electric cart out of a store up and over the hill. I called the service desk and informed th and last I seen the woman was still cruising down the road. I would think an electric cart is quite expensive. You would think they might have made an effort to recover it.

[@Wardell43]

Roughly 10 years ago, it was a crime to stop someone from stealing your carts. Businesses need to move away from the insanity before you are sued into oblivion.

[@peanutsarecheap1997]

That's crazy. You're going to make the store owner pay for a stolen cart 🛒, or hold it hostage, or even WORST make them pay a fine. This literally sounds like racketeering.

[@seth7745]

I tried to contact a store once to pickup one of their carts on my street and was unable to. The stores could easily create a program to make reporting stray carts easier so they can send people out to pick them up. This way the city would not feel the need to get involved.

[@chrisredfield4017]

You completely missed the point. Enforce the laws already on the books. Vote these progressive clowns out of office.

[@edgarkoen1230]

It is a good solution to deal with the current situation.

[@Stig007]

@@chrisredfield4017 I'm not sure what the point was to miss but my boss did the same thing we have a lot of carts come to our business property from stores all over he called the stores they had no interest in coming to pick up the carts. But we are left to deal with them and that takes time and time is money so somebody should have to pay for that we don't do work for free. We are a family own business and all the baskets come from big retailers. . And the recycling centers won't accept it if the retailer's name is on the basket so I had to hack up the baskets which took time.

[@leslieprigmore2854]

So, then wouldn’t the city be guilty of receiving stolen goods? The DA should then prosecute the city.

[@livingdead247]

There holding these stores property hostage! If my bike gets stolen and found it’s my property and it gets returned free of charge. They need to sue the city!

[@Stig007]

On an individual perspective that works but when you're talking about a big profitable entity expecting an individual or the city to collect their property and give it back free of charge is charge is silly they are expecting somebody to do work for you for free. I understand there are small business suffering from this. But if you are that small then you don't have a lot of carts to loose. And are more likely to keep track of your $400 investment.

[@ripperfisher182250]

@@Stig007 government isn't a business. It's a governing and enforcing body. The correct thing would be to return the property if marked clearly. If not move on to a recycling program to help prevent unnecessary trash from building up.

[@JJones-nf9ce]

Why not simply return the carts?

[@Ahsao]

Some stores have a system that’s like an electric dog collar for carts! There is an invisible barrier surrounding the edge of the parking lot & if a cart goes up to that line the wheels lock on the cart 🛒 the only problem I noticed with that is that some of the stores don’t know how to unlock the wheels once it’s been activated so they’re parking lot ends up looking like this junk yard! Or they could just pay someone $25 an hour to make sure their carts don’t leave the property

[@glizzyap4912]

Exactly and I thought every big store chain definitely had that lol. Costco has one and it works great

[@FionaApplewright]

When they're charged for destroying abandoned carts,large companies make it a tax write off. There is absolutely zero penalty for the companies who can afford to actually do something about the problem,andthe cost is passed down to small and independent businesses.

[@theconcerned]

typical. punish businesses for failed democrat policies.

[@LK-pc4sq]

ahahah no true!!! you dont understand INCOME INIQUALITY the wall marts of the retail world are super rich thanks to off shoring good paying us jobs to china that do not abide by international law when it comes to humans rights and co2 emissions. Though Walmart is a publicly traded company, more than 50 percent of its shares are in the hands of the Walton family - 51.11 percent, to be precise. These shares are controlled primarily through two entities: Walton Family Holdings Trust and a holding company, Walton Enterprises. Members of the Walton family also have shares they control individually. The three most prominent members of the family are Jim, S. Robson (Rob) and Alice, each estimated to be worth about $46 billion. They are the surviving children of Sam Walton, co-founder of the company. Other members of the family include Ann Walton Kroenke and Nancy Walton Laurie, children of Bud Walton, the other co-founder; Christy Walton, the widow of one of Sam’s sons; and 10 grandchildren (such as Lukas, worth about $16 billion, and Steuart, who is on the company’s board of directors).

[@steveeddy6876]

Yeeeeeeeessssss!

[@simp2234]

Greatjob

[@thomasstecyk792]

Nobody gets a shopping cart to take their groceries home. People take carts for convenience. Stores do not have recovery Officers for carts. Four hundred dollars is a misdemeanor and thieves do not care. Now maybe making it a federal crime to take carts, maybe that would stop this type of theft.

[@scenicdriveways6708]

This is one of the reasons I hate liberal states and cities. They are punishing the stores for the actions of thieves. They are forcing stores to "buy back" their stolen shopping carts for $25 each, and if they don't, they get charged double for the city to get rid of them. Keep in mind that these costs get passed onto the consumer. I have a much better idea. How about a $5,000 fine for anyone caught with a store's shopping cart off the store's premises? If they can't pay the fine, then they have to do community service and work for the store they stole from by retrieving carts in the store's parking lot. And if they don't show up, sent them straight to jail.

[@isaac198428]

So if a store employee confronts a thief, they get arrested and fired. If the city recovers the stolen shopping cart, they’ll sell back the cart to the store (victim) and if the store refuses to buy its stolen cart back, the city fines/charges the victim for recycling that cart. The city is hustling like the mafia. This is a shake up by the city punishing law abiding businesses for actions of criminals.

[@XJ9sodypop]

racketeering

[@georgelahmon4539]

First they need to pass a law making shopping cart theft a felony, even if it's possession. I understand that it cost money to collect them. If they actually clean and sanitize them plus deliver them to the stores a small fee should be applied to recover the cost, or maybe enact a tax. Clearly anyone stealing a cart should be arrested and if they have an income like ssi or s.s. should garnish their check to pay for it. Once again liberals and their policies are rotting society to the core.

[@davidperry4013]

No it shouldn’t be a felony. But, theft of a shopping cart should still be jail time. 90 days in the slammer and/or up to a 1000 dollar fine will fit the crime.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

That guy laughing about stores not having any carts when you need them while HE is the one destroying them really enraged me.

[@XJ9sodypop]

it sucks. im not a leftist but these companies can afford it. 20 bucks to regain a $400 piece? done deal. if kroger doesnt like it they should pay for a security guard

[@AIWFNW]

Bubbles wld be losing his mind

[@MsSarahGahan]

In Ireland carts have a wheel lock on them. So if you attempt to wheel the cart out of the car park of the store the wheels lock and it is pretty much impossible to push because the wheels won’t move. Perhaps the independent store in the US could look into that however, I’m sure thieves would attempt to take the lock off if the car park wasn’t supervised for long enough.

[@XJ9sodypop]

we have that already. people arent weak dude theyll just slide the cart

[@williamjarvis6775]

The city police should return the stolen carts to their owners. If the city does not return the carts they should reimburse the stores.

[@angelbrumfield6134]

This is BS. Citizens if you see a cart and can bring it back to the store do it. It's crap it's come to this but we can't allow the cities to run off good businesses and it's a cheap good deed. The stores could offer gift cards for carts brought back or something like that too. Idk just thinking of solutions until the people making these unfair ridiculous rules up get voted out of there.

[@XJ9sodypop]

its not really the citizens problems. im not gonna sweat for a rich company either. if they cant pay a measly 25 bucks then F em. cheap store only wants to pay people 9/hr then F em

[@lprice5583]

If you see someone with a shopping cart rolling down the street arrest them for possession of stolen goods. Throw them in jail so they have to spend a couple days without their precious drugs. STOP protecting the worst of society. They are not protecting you.

[@LetsDanceTampa]

Yes!

[@MF-ty2zn]

Why don't they just call and tell them to pick them up wherever they are? It's stolen property. They shouldn't have to pay to get their property back.

[@killer44spl]

How can you charge someone to get there get their property back when somebody else stole it from them so if someone breaks into my house steals my TV I'll call the cops I have to pay to get it back from the cops

[@martenkrueger8647]

The cities do it to everyone ever have your car stolen? well it goes too impound..when the police recover it and you the victim get raped by the city!

[@bradleybruvva3021]

A lot of those carts without names could be donated to senior homes or apartments to help people with groceries to their door! Many apartments already have them.

[@namewithheld7835]

Disgusting... instead of going after the homeless .. the city is too scared so they go after the law abiding citizens

[@AlmaVasquezjr]

Because arresting a homeless person gives them a home. Jail is free fresh cooked food, a nice clean dry bed with no bugs or vermin,, a roof, air conditioning or heat depending on the season, clean freshly laundered clothes, and maybe medical attention. A bathroom, indoor plumbing, a nice shower with soap, and maybe even a tv, and books to read, all of these resources without having to do any work.

[@laurafranich4807]

What makes you think the homeless aren't law abiding citizens? I'm sure some aren't and I'm sure many are. I'm also pretty sure people who live in houses may occasionally commit crimes. Do we then ask;"Why don't they go after homeowners instead of law abiding citizens?"

[@namewithheld7835]

@@laurafranich4807 1. "What about... " is not a defense. 2. We are talking about the *crime of stealing shopping carts. 👏👏👏Good effort, though... B for effort .. F for execution and substance

[@laurafranich4807]

@@namewithheld7835 I'm sorry for veering off course a little. I didn't realize you had been appointed moderator of the comment section.

[@wilsterone6689]

Wait, the karts are stolen and they fine the store???? How about we prosecute the thiefs??? Complete bat poop crazy!

[@rongjohnson2448]

And if you think it's going to get any better around Seattle and Gomorrah you were born yesterday

[@4.0gpa44]

Charge Seattle with posession of stolen property. This is illegal. File a civil RICO lawsuit. They can't charge victims.

[@BelieveWhatuWant2]

Why would a tax paying local business be expected to pay a fee to recover stolen property? If it were my business I would report them stolen daily. Hopefully the the city council would figure out it is cheeper not to charge a fee then to pay an officer to respond and write up a stolen report every day.

[@bhazerelli7611]

I wouldn't be surprised if the city council has instructed the police not to respond to those calls.

[@ShieldThane]

lmao Government can't fix Potholes.

[@dthreadjr]

The government is just cashing in left and right on these problems that they helped create

[@steveeddy6876]

Yeeeeeeeessssss!

[@saramae3145]

Love the idea of giving unmarked carts to the homeless instead of destroying them. Also I have seen a lot of housed people using carts to walk their groceries home. Maybe there is a way to rent one to make that possible. That would probably help with the carts being returned

[@GoodGuy-wq4md]

How many Police Officers drive past cart thieves (who in all fairness would say they found it) a hundred times per day?

[@chrisredfield4017]

So it's the cops fault ? Elected officials make policy, not cops.

[@GoodGuy-wq4md]

Those carts cost $300.00. That's theft. The scallywags are taking advantage of the system, they're opportunist, they'll steal whatever is not nailed down. The Police have higher priorities, but some scolding wouldn't hurt much for the retailers. Just saying...

[@krupter]

Wow where do the towns get the right to punish thrift victims! Grow up!!!!

[@Arcwol]

Outrageous!

[@janetd443]

JFC, stores need to do decent cart management and all other organizations/entities need to be reasonable. For crying out loud, we got enough problems. So irritating.

[@dabberdan3200]

The cart jail is located right off pacific just north of Milton coming into the SOUTH END of federal way city limits…LIBERATE THOSE SHOPPING CARTS 🛒 behind lowes and home depot

[@never2late454]

Bubbles would be more than happy to take these carts. Some of you will understand this, some won't.

[@GR3YD3ATH]

extortion...

[@May9ninth]

Facts

[@randyjohnson4988]

Charging a business for stolen carts is extortion on a expanded level great job guys 🤯

[@foshomoney]

state sponsored extortion

[@steveeddy6876]

Yeeessss!

[@MNDashcam]

This city is a disgusting mess. Give the stolen property back like any decent person should.

[@MF-ty2zn]

My neighbor's car was stolen. The thief abandoned it, and it was towed. She had to pay the towing fee and storage fee to retrieve her car.

[@xenon54]

Considering carts can be (as stated) $400......or even $500, $25 is a fair price to reclaim. Otherwise the business needs to send an employee into the local area to pick up stray carts. I've done that in the past. It didn't hurt my feelings any.

[@XJ9sodypop]

no employee will travel 3 blocks to hurl a cart for minimum wage. F these stores. they donated to BLM. thousands. walgreens donated a quarter million. but theyre too cheap to pay someone with a big truck to round carts? stores deserve it

[@cbjueueiwyru7472]

I like that they are blaming homeless people and then charging the stores.... Maybe they should focus on fixing homeless problems

[@lehsu]

Solution: fine anyone outside the parking lot in possession of a cart. It’s no different than shoplifting.

[@carlasmith2105]

Seems that lowering the recovery price would be more of an incentive for store owners to reclaim them. If the store owners don't want them, then offer them to public for recovery cost minus the identifier.

[@ricardomartinez112]

They should pass a law to jail the homeless for using and stealing the carts

[@poet_stowage4574]

Solution: pay any person 5$ for a returned cart 🛒. Supply the local homeless with carts that are to be destroyed. Make a monster cart with full suspension and hire one homeless man to go around town retrieving all the carts. Put up MISSING signs all around town with a picture of the cart that was stolen and then when you find the person with it film them and shame them online so that everyone else knows not to fuc around. And finally the only other solution I have is to start a local Facebook page that displays all the local people that are walking home with carts and or hauling their belongings and make them local celebrities untill they get the message.

[@Primalxbeast]

I think people can figure out that homeless people with carts have carts without putting pictures on Facebook. Does that person with a cart have a cart? I can't be sure, let me check for their picture on Facebook.

[@markmiller3308]

Should be like BC where you have to put a $.25-$1 deposit.

[@LK-pc4sq]

yes I used to live there it works very well

[@jennyl.2689]

Why should stores pay for their own carts? Seattle is nuts.

[@fruitfly77]

Great example of how some laws just didn’t work as expected and need to be repealed. Punish the people STEALING!!

[@the.original.throwback]

Many European markets use an automated cart deposit system that almost eliminates the stolen shopping cart problem. Inserting a one euro coin releases a cart for use. When the cart is returned and locked into the system, a one euro coin is returned to the shopper. Works like a dream.

[@wallyb7207]

...and who pays for the fines, the consumers.

[@2ksbill724]

Stupid, stupid, stupid!!! The stores are getting robbed twice! And the thieves get away without anything to hold them accountable for their actions. Where has common sense flown to?!

[@the_homie_me]

This gives me an idea, find stolen cars and have people bail it or punish them for it being destroyed if they don’t bail it out

[@northwestgardener5076]

The police do nothing to recover the stolen property, the absolute insanity prosecutor the victims.

[@AlmaVasquezjr]

Sounds like stores should stop providing carts and force people to buy less food.

[@starmud2]

This sort of program is used in many states successfully... it cuts down on the amount of stray carts everywhere, which helps discourage use by those who take them off property to begin with as they arent as easily accessible. In California our target district paid a fairly minimal expense to a few families who collected stray carts and returned them to our locations monthly. We began paying for monthly high pressure washes of our carts and focusing the funds that would other wise be spent consistently ordering new carts to instead supporting gigs in the community. The program was a win and it would have never taken place if it weren't for the city/country imposing fines for stray carts to convince the larger retailers to focus funds on collection vs replacement.

[@juliah8601]

What the hell? Stores are supposed to pay for carts stolen from them?! Or the carts are destroyed?! How wasteful! And backwards. And stupid. Come on, people. You can do better than this.

[@pheto1521]

So if someone steals my car, it's my fault? This is the government overreaching and coddling criminals. Sounds like we need to overthrow their asses...

[@chrischeshire6528]

Another city where politicians sit around trying to figure out a new revenue, which probably just go's into someone's pocket. Catch the crooks who steal the carts and punish them.

[@m----]

That 'jail' is in possession of stolen goods. Throw the jailer into jail!

[@josephandrews2353]

That doesn’t seem right. They are stolen, you have to pay to get your stolen stuff back. Sounds like extortion.

[@peety6323]

That's complete BS💩 Then food prices will go up even more. There is absolutely nothing right in this world anymore. 25$ per card is ridiculous!

[@jinglejazz7537]

I did that in 82, I took a cart home in winter because I couldn't afford a cab, I took the cart home, emptied it, and then took it back to the store. A man would go around the neighbourhood on Sundays and pick up carts and take them back to the store. Seemed to work. They tried the locking wheels thing at one time.

[@PyroShields]

That would make sense to do that or the worst take it back to the store next time you shop.

[@seanwhatshisname1831]

New shopping cart 400 dollars is STRAIT BULLSHIT

[@jessehaaland7689]

Why would they want Carts with all the drug residue and crap on them from them ppl?

[@seth7745]

I have allways thought about this with stolen cars. I would rather have full coverage pay for it than some GPS theft recovery service bring a stolen car back to me.

[@lynnleigha580]

Extremely stupid, how can the stores prevent this? Some stores put poles on their carts, so they can't be taken outside, but that's not practical when it comes to groceries and other household needs

[@robertphillips6296]

Imagine that, being charged for the recovery of your Stolen Items!?

[@rustedratchetgarage6788]

If the store property is take off the physical location its not the stores liability anymore

[@danielrollins4315]

Proud to be an American. : If I see abandoned carts I return them. Ask not what you're country can do for you ask what you can do for your country.

[@annajames9682]

How does it make sense to punish the people who were the victims?!??

[@michaelbochenski6299]

Flag politicians , judiciary and police officers and add a $100 cart fee every time they shop. Solutions are simple.

[@marksullivan6319]

"Destroyed" you mean recycled. Which they're going paid for and then getting paid again by the stores. Who are the victims in this situation. This is really messed up.

[@indefiniteartblock434]

Stores and customers are still the victims because then old people can't find carts to use. Why make them wait for the stores to get permission to order more instead of making the "jail" bring them back? These jailers are out looking for carts everyday, I'm sure they can afford the gas to drop them off because no individual store has the means to pay for this service.

[@Nirrrina]

Best thing about my neighborhood grocery store isn't just that it's a discount grocery. But that they allow the locals to use the carts to get their groceries home. Then you just leave the cart where they can see it & they send out a truck to collect them. They always seem to have enough carts still at the store.