Shorikai vs Yuriko vs Krark/Sakashima vs Ikra/Kraum | CEDH Gameplay

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[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

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[@fayrose3605]

Just got my buy list back from them. So happy I used this service over others. Was A LOT easier than others I’ve used in the past

[@DarkEinherjar]

Leaving Unwinding Clock alone in a Shorikai deck is the same as leaving Seedborn Muse alone in a Thrasios deck.

[@lysander3262]

Absolutely based that he didn't go for a Thoracle

[@SrDonJugo]

@@lysander3262 shorikai does not usually play thoracle, blind obedience usually is enough for a follow-up

[@Destrudo5359]

No it's not

[@DiscardatRandom]

Maybe if shirokai was twice as good

[@Magnivore519]

*Mike:* _plays a mid-range deck_ *Also Mike:* _came to the party having already pre-gamed for hours_

[@salchi-papa]

Mike's opening hand in game 1 was FILTHY

[@variant-cover]

I frequently am surprised by the number of T1 Mana Crypts/Vaults/Jeweled Lotus/Etc, often multiple. I could play 100 games and not hit this once.

[@oscher88]

@@variant-cover I'm not sure how many times they mulligan or how many games they play, but the frequency of 4+ fast mana hand is mind boggling

[@woolverton30]

@@oscher88 I think the word you're looking for is sketchy.

[@variant-cover]

@@oscher88 I know some KZbinrs allow free mulligans until a good hand is found to make sure the game is exciting. It just seems like a statistical anomaly for T1 Crypt into Vault into Sol Ring into Jeweled Lotus into Mox Diamond into Chrome Mox (with a Gemstone Caverns on the battlefield lol).

[@amarauk9687]

Free mulligans in cEDH? Impossible. That completely bypasses the drawback of building a greedy manabase and gives any storm deck an unfair advantage.

[@buddadragonmtg4848]

That ashani win was a refreshing and great way to see a win. Finally it wasn't the bloody demon fish combo...

[@Ragnaroc90]

I run shorikai and was great to see it in today's episode! I might have to add some stax to it. Right now it's set up to try and go with untap effects. Such a fun deck to pilot!!

[@WhoTFareyou2]

Lol nick replaying the memnite knowing there's a dockside in Mike's hand

[@Theronxz]

He also revealed chain of vapor, so my choice of casting it was the difference of 14 treasures instead of 12. He also revealed a windfall which if he ended up casting, I would then lose the memnite and not casting it would lose me tempo if it did make it back to my turn.

[@the_real_deafeye]

I’ve had these Yuriko reveals as well. It’s like opening 12 different presents and they’re all the same pair of white socks. #Pain

[@Ex4_]

I'm always happy to see a Yuriko deck. :3

[@gundamassassin241]

I like the blind obedience tech, props.

[@Drummerboyno]

Took us forever to get people to start playing it, is one of the best cards in the deck.

[@kuroshinko427]

Shoutout to Nick's Re-Zero playmat!

[@rotation3860]

I was wondering what Shorikai if was going to do anything and I'm proud to say he erased all my doubts

[@TripsAhoy]

Wanna see more stax decks shutting down the shenanigans ;)

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

I love watching Ashani pilot Shorikai. Congrats on the win.

[@charlesmaillho367]

Noah got targeted hard in that game and rightfully so. At the same time, that heavy focus on him left Ashani free to build his board and defenses to get that easy win.

[@Drummerboyno]

it wasnt that easy, he had to fight through multiple pieces of interactions.

[@robertherlihy917]

I remember playing with ashani. He's good people and a good inclusion to the channel.

[@everythingcoveredff890]

What a first game! I’m wondering if you guys would ever consider playing with more random commanders?

[@nicolasmirson3332]

I really wanna see a Zur consultation deck here !

[@ggangulo]

That game one though......wow

[@TrueHylianKnight]

Jesus christ that game 1. Insane.

[@lilwigese1]

Letssss gooooo shorikai 🔥🔥🔥

[@douglatins]

Would be cool if you guys focused on new potential cedh commanders each new set released.

[@SD_Sharpie]

To be fair they wouldn’t really have a lot of time to focus on established decks if they did that. There’s too much product released to do that plus what they’re already doing.

[@douglatins]

@@SD_Sharpie that's something their audience could answer, I definitely enjoy seeing new brews and not just another krarkshima, temur pirates, tymna kraum, etc pod.

[@davidpabst8638]

Great game! Any chance we see a no banlist gameplay again?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Maybe one day. No plans currently.

[@MexiPerplexi]

Huh. I never considered infinitely extorting an Iso-rev. That was neat.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It's a valid wincon in azorius Iso-Rev. It's been there for years in front of our faces, but it was never really showcased before.

[@CosmicGiggalo]

Man Ashani always has such cool ways to win with his decks. I love the idea of winning with Dramatic Reversal through extort and a bunch of mana, thats so sick.

[@Xeno-MTG]

To be honest, I think Blind Obedience is still underplayed. It's an outlet for stuff like Scepter or Bomberman while hosing Kiki lines, Dockside ramp and greedy Naus players. Also in a deck like Shorikai playing it as an outlet saves you from running otherwise dead cards like Thoracle.

[@CosmicGiggalo]

@@Xeno-MTG Its mostly because of online mentality when it comes to winning cEDH games. I've seen a *lot* of threads that boil down to if you aren't running the main 2-3 ways of winning the game, its basically garbage and you should stop. That mentality is the thing that is garbage but too many people let it inform their deckbuilding habits in this particular format.

[@lysander3262]

The Dull Thoracle Enjoyer Vs The Flamboyant Giga Mech wielding an all powerful scepter and bludgeoning enemies into obedience The only better win would be giving Pilots haste and winning with combat damage.

[@MexiPerplexi]

@@CosmicGiggalo This is how you end up with stale metas.

[@xOptoger]

Could Noah have lived if he declared the Pyroblast BEFORE declaring no blocks?

[@michaelbrauner8726]

It seems like you could respond in the attacker phase, before the conditions for ninjutsu have been met. I'm not a judge tho.

[@gregoiredelannoy7970]

Yes there is a round of priority after attack are declared, before blocks are declared

[@lysander3262]

Yeah, the only reason to try a "next level play" and wait until after Blockers would be if you expected a Ninjutsu activation, leaving you to then remove the perfect target when they tap out. But Krark provides so much variance already that you're either asking to get blown out OR potentially leaving free value in copied spells on the table. Or both! Sometimes the first level is best.

[@kodylinde4123]

Why aren’t you guys showing the game stats at the end of the video anymore?

[@Broken_Colossus]

Hey nick, "Who's Rem?"

[@vincentemario8905]

Say for that game with a turn2 win . What could be some hypothetical answers to that combo ?

[@vincentemario8905]

Just curious how to throw a spanner into that kind of of overrrun .

[@savilopez8041]

I thought you can’t cast cards outside your color palette blind obedience has a white/black pip please explain

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It’s in the reminder text, so it’s technically not part of its color identity.

[@Basskin]

Fucks sake Mike.

[@Magnivore519]

Ryan even sounds disappointed as he introduces Mike, the pitch of his voice dropped deeper than Batman's.

[@Basskin]

@@Magnivore519 Next we have Mike. It doesn't matter who his commanders are. They unlock URB and that's all that matters. (Love you really Mike)

[@lordndrew]

Isn’t blind obedience illegal in shorikai due to the black mana?

[@zefiend]

The hybrid mana is part of the reminder text for the Extort keyword, not in the card's text itself

[@matthewfredrickson1616]

doesn't drannith magistrate stop Isochron sceptor from casting dramatic reversal in the last game

[@Beocaleb]

Drannith is a 1 sided stax piece and does not stop you from casting things from anywhere other than your hand, only your opponents.

[@manshark4099]

Yuitkos ability beats the dranith that was on the field ?

[@SD_Sharpie]

Yes, ninjutsu is an ability so you’re not actually casting the card.

[@zut8448]

Dranith says “cant CAST spells from anywhere other than hand” - Commander Ninjutsu is not casting, it is *putting* onto the battlefield, thus it dodges Drannith!

[@rikytie7011]

Yep yuriko dodges everything

[@phelandiller4066]

@@rikytie7011 Except Containment Priest. Muahahaha

[@DaxVerus]

Still trying to figure out the reason for emergence zoning himself at end step rather than just going off in his second main phase. Also still not sure why Noah didnt have the pyroblast target any of the blue permanents and not his own dockside.

[@r3dmanMIC]

To get the extra necropotence cards.

[@DaxVerus]

@@r3dmanMIC makes sense. Didn't recognize that. Smart play

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

When did y’all add a new member? I feel so behind.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

A few months ago. We have such a long lead time in our video backlog, that it takes a few months for the videos to air after they are recorded.

[@Jay15199]

That first win by Mike was disgusting.

[@senzawa-zc9wx]

surprise to see shori wins game,have play against it few time ,really don’t think it is close to be good ,maybe tier 3 in cedh

[@Jace998]

Well I believe that Krark Sakashima Clones could have better performance by improving all the decisions. Perhaps put all engines and spells for valuing or drawing on a higher position?

[@lysander3262]

Oof. This is why you interact with Ninjas before the Blockers step

[@lysander3262]

Also, daily reminder that Dockside Extortionist is fair and balanced while Primeval Titan is unhealthy and centralizing.

[@justblay2125]

I activate pot of greed drawing me two additional cards

[@spencerdixon593]

That clip where yugi keeps doing that makes me roll every time 🤣

[@moedark4390]

same game was on another channel. is this shared content?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

What channel? This isn’t shared content.

[@moedark4390]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I must be loosing my mind, sorry, cant find it now,

[@alanyuan8565]

Why would nick counter the dispel from mike …

[@Gabbyreel]

Nothing like a good old turn 2 win to start the day. This is why I prefer to watch cedh instead of play it

[@lysander3262]

It's a spectator sport like boxing, ninja warrior, or beach volleyball.

[@Rabbit3]

Pregame shout out: Go krarkashima!

[@VeganSpaceman]

GG’s “:^)

[@markhunter3533]

That one guy playing single player commander

[@Death_by_Tech]

I have to admit that the players changing spots between matches throws me off, if there’s any way for you to just acknowledge it I think it would help reset my brain

[@jamesgreenwood1703]

I see krarkashima I click and like 😊

[@oscarperezcame]

So glad there's no krark/sakashima decks in my playgroup... it's so boring

[@joshfrancisco6004]

Fifth

[@grouphug1013]

video starts at 1:44

[@mykelbandaa]

trying to go from yugioh to magic but there is way to many infinite combos...

[@alexk5025]

Another Thoracle win. Yawn.

[@ratbaby3107]

Bad anime taste detected

[@theasianone3327]

Am I the only one who thinks blind obedience shouldn't be allowed to be played in a blue, white deck? No hate to the Shorikai player, he's just following the rules. I just think the rule doesn't make sense.

[@Xeno-MTG]

It looks weird on the card, but the rule absolutely makes sense. Extort is a keyword and would mean the same if it were standing on its own. Everything in the brackets is reminder text and not really a part of the card's text.

[@surrealism4764]

winning with turn 2 combos is boring

[@mosselliadelt]

that shorikai list is pretty.... meh

[@PamPamOW]

What exactly did you not like about this list? I just started doing something similar and would like to know what could be improved

[@mosselliadelt]

@@PamPamOW too slow, not enough high impact cards. Using thoracle over jace in shorikai when you're running a humility deck. Too many creatures, also not running polymorph or mass polymorph effects which hugely synergize with shorikai as well (even with humility, you can throw in stuff like swift reconfiguration on hullbreaker or tidespout). Also, no mishras workshop for the amount of artifacts you run, or tabernacle.

[@dearestdoppio8554]

@@mosselliadelt The non polymorph lists are supposed to be slower but more adaptable. There's a no poly list in the ddb.

[@mosselliadelt]

@@dearestdoppio8554 both the ddb poly decks are too all in. Imho. Theres a middle ground thats better.

[@indiojapones2010]

boring

[@gaythiestMTG]

"boring" seems like something a filthy casual would say about the video

[@senzawa-zc9wx]

so what’s meant to be not boring?