Shortbed 5th Wheel Towing - I saved over 200 lbs payload and $1000! Don't buy before you watch this!

The video explains how I saved over 200 useful payload capacity pounds in my short bed tow vehicle and saved over $1,000 too! Is everyone saying you need a slider hitch to pull your 5th wheel? If you are thinking of getting a short bed tow vehicle and 5th wheel, you want to see this first! It also shows you how I can do 88 degree turns in my short bed truck and 5th wheel combination without having a heavy slider hitch! Explains what to look for in a 5th wheel so you may not need a slider hitch.
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Pullrite has 2 models of Superlite 20k hitches. Model 2600 is a single attachment point that connects to your gooseneck ball. This is the one I use amzn.to/3aEY3Cw
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Also pictured in the video is my RDS Auxilary Fuel/Tool Box that holds an additional 40 gallons of diesel fuel. This extends my towing range from 250 miles to 650 miles and helps me avoid those busy fuel stops and allows me to stop at the cheapest price fuel stops, or at the end of the day once I have disconnected my 5th wheel.
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[@outlaw8461]

The chucking and bouncing with this type of hitch is brutal. Changed to the b&w companion and I have no complaints. Pulls like a dream and have to check my mirrors more often to make sure my RV is still back there. Just my thoughts

[@brianbong5803]

Out Law agreed, I own a Mega Cab Ram, can’t imagine towing my 35’ 5th wheel without a slider.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Outlaw, thanks for your experienced opinion. I too, had experienced the same chucking and bouncing for a bit it seems after I upgraded my 5th Wheel tires for G rated tires. I readjusted the the hitch position and the problem was solved. It rode nice and smooth again.

[@tikijim4231]

I agree. I've been towing 5th wheels since 2005 w short bed trucks. I have a no slider curt.

[@acdii]

I went with a Reese Sidewinder and Curt A20. Can make 93 degree turns with 4" of cab clearance still with an Arctic Wolf 3660SUITE. The A20 weighs 108 pounds total. If for some reason my trailer needs to be towed with something else, there are two locking bolts and remove the wedge. Best part of the Sidewinder, I can spin the thing 180 degrees out of the way so it can't be walked into on a dark night. What I don't like about these ball type hitches is they offset the pins CG behind the rear axle to give you more swing room and lighten the front axle. For best handling the pin should be on center or slightly forward of the axle to keep the weight on the front axle. You must have a magic F250 if it's a power stroke. The dry pin on that trailer is 2080 pounds. I have yet to see a diesel F250 with enough payload for that and passengers.

[@wadeh9302]

Being a heavy haul truck driver for 32 years my theory on this hitches and the floating head type hitches is it makes the camper rock back and forth to easy when your on a rough road and a crowned road. No resistance to the hitch, can't feel the movement in the tow vehicle. So if your taking a corner to fast your TV isn't helping it from laying up and then you have a rollover like you read about now and then. Picture a tractor trailer having a hitch like that, be rollovers everywhere

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Wade, thanks for commenting! We always appreciate professional and experienced information. It helps us all!

[@jandblawncare8570]

Thats one thing that concerns me too. We go to some camp grounds that while the roads are finally new pavement they seem to be pitched big time for run off and 45-65mph zones plus these camp grounds around here at least, most have some ridiculous crowns and ditches on either side. IDK I might be making more out of it. With us living in a city environment we need to make some very tight turns, as much as I'd love to keep my bed free, I dont want to be making insurance claims so I'll stick with the Pullrite Superglide.

[@skyking4501]

Man i don’t have the vocabulary to express how glad i am that you made this video. I have almost the same vehicle and i been scratching my head about the cost of the hitch. Life saver!!!! Thank you!!! 🙏 i also love that tool box. Tell me bout it.. please

[@fmaracco]

Thanks for taking the time to post an informative review. Gives me more confidence in the hitch I just bought!

[@kevinharrington5014]

We have the same hitch. I changed from a traditional 5th wheel hitch to this type, it is a lot lighter but it also is in pieces so it is way easier to lift. I could not lift the traditional hitch as one part. The pull rite is lighter as a whole unit and divides into 5 pieces. One piece, the king pin to ball adapter, goes on the trailer. The rest, the goose ball mounts 1st, then the 2 rails then the hitch. You lineup the hitch on the rails with tabs into slots. You put pins across the goose ball & torque bolts and lock nuts to lock it in. It is very easy to line up the trailer ball into the hitch & a simple turn of a lever locks it in. You can hook up even at a 90° angle. Certain parts need to be sprayed with a lube. It connects to the truck using a goose ball in the floor of the bed. There are bolts & lock nuts that have to be torqued to install it. The instructions list the amounts. They need to be checked periodically. There are also 2 "bed saver" heavy metal cross beams the go under the hitch on the bed floor, their weight needs to be added to the amount in the video. They were included with the hitch when I purchased it. Everything is more expensive after the plandemic, I'm sure this pull right is over a thousand dollars & all the others are likely up to 2 thousand. I did have the adapter on the way you have it in the video (the ball in front of the kingpin) once and due to the terrain in the dealers parking lot, the bottom of the pin box hit the top of the tailgate. I turned it around & have had good clearance between the front of the camper & back of the cab. We watch carefully & go slow in sharp turns. the instructions say it can be installed this way. I have the height at the lowest setting to keep the camper roof a/c clearance below 13'6". Thanks for your video!

[@JIMPETERSON-n7i]

Plandemic? Did your Mom have any smart kids?

[@iansanders9655]

Very similar to the Anderson hitch I went with, I am with you on trying to save every pound to keep the truck light, also the spare tire weighs 100lbs, I removed mine and put it in the back of the trailer by the trailers spare.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

That's a great idea Ian! Thanks for the info!

[@lancomedic]

That's a good idea if you are always connected but what if you drive the truck into town for dinner and you get a flat?

[@j.l.salayao8055]

@@lancomedic no worries, they might have AAA on duty...and dinner might be very late or late night to head back home.

[@1KDirtmod]

Hopefully your Anderson doesn't fail like I've seen before.

[@neitzchejesse4603]

I have seen systems like this that work well, but this one adjust the leverage point of the hitch enough to put extra stress on the frame. Yes it saves on weight, and money, but your hauling a 30-100k 5th wheel. Spend the extra bit on something more sturdy IMO. Next to this the link you provide stats the hitch is 130 pounds, and it now cost 1000$

[@AndreenMotorsports]

I have this same hitch and its been amazing. A much better and stronger design than the Andersen.

[@1KDirtmod]

Hopefully this one won't fold up and fail like the Anderson. My family is riding inside my F-450, I'll gladly take the weight, cost, and safety over weight and price reduction.

[@AndreenMotorsports]

@@1KDirtmod thats why I went with the PullRite. There are several examples of the Andersen folding up and failing but not a single one of a PullRite failing. To think that straight tubes that are crimped on the ends is in any way strong enough to pull a 5th wheel is insanity. You dont have to be an engineer to see that the Andersen will easily fail.

[@1KDirtmod]

Awesome I'm glad you did the research before going this route, I had not but just knew about Anderson being inferior.

[@AlbertAGhazaleh]

Thank you greatly for information been researching and looking to tow setup for 2017 Silverado 2500 HD short bed.

[@lostnparadise3178]

He's crackin himself up

[@quagmyer7230]

Great video, thanks for sharing the ideas.

To each their own I guess !! I'll Stick with Being Safe with my B&W Companion !!

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Chuck, Thanks for commenting! B&W companion is a great hitch! Do you have some pertinent safety information you are aware of you would like to share?

@@lovingrvlife5512Personally just not a fan of those lightweight hitches , And I have a dually so I'm not as concerned about weight. I have seen a couple instances with the Andersen hitch where they have failed, but none so far with the Pull Rite !

[@pigybak]

@ , us dually guys don’t have to worry about weight. my dually has a short bed. i’ll stick with my Pull Rite slider!

[@Jdww89]

3yrs later and the price has almost doubled. Looked convenient, but I can get a used curt 5th wheel roller 16k for $150. Idk if they're any good. I guess it's worth taking a look at since my rams bed is like 5'7"

[@Dannzegos]

Thank you! This was very helpful! Best regards.

[@chuckpoz1968]

Thanks for sharing I’m in that spot as I write this 😱 gives me another option Thank you

[@villamarceci]

Thank you for the detailed information and most of all, for being specific on the Fifth Wheel model and the truck you are using for towing it. Many RV KZbinrs neglect to include that info which in my opinion is needed to decide how it compares to the viewer's particular setup. Happy trails.

[@erikzahir5242]

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[@erikzahir5242]

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[@kevinahmir5070]

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[@josephwiltgen1959]

I to pull my 5th wheel with a shortbed. I have only a Ford F150 with the 5 1/2 foot long bed and pull a 34 foot Open Range light. I use the gooseneck adapter which came with it. Pulls great and it also has the contoured cap to allow 90° turns.

[@genekezy5794]

Like to see a picture of that.i too have the same truck and set up I am using a pullrite slider.2018 f150 5.0.27ft fith wheel

[@josephwiltgen1959]

I can't post a picture of my rig on this format. Go to my Facebook page Joseph Wiltgen (Albuquerque NM). You should be able to stroll through my photos.

[@genekezy5794]

@@josephwiltgen1959 ok thanks will do on my wife's facebook.im not Facebook savy.lol

[@dank8017]

I don't need a slider for towing as we have the modern cap as well but I do use one because I need to slide it back so I have more clearance at the tailgate backing it down our steep driveway to our barn. Otherwise I would not need one. Hope that made sense

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Dan, Thanks for commenting! I am with you 100%! That is an excellent reason to have a slider hitch.

[@jerrykinnin7941]

I'm a professional truck driver. Need to mount the fithwheel so you are a max front axle weight with your People and stuff in the cab full fuel. Measure from center of jaw to the left or right back corner. For rear swing clearance. Front swing measure center of jaw to the center front of the truck box. Measure kingpin to outer edge of front corner of the trailer.for swing clearance. Get a CAT scale ticket. RV empty but full truck fuel propane, water, generator fuel. Know your individual gross axle weights. And load accordingly. If the fithwheel is to far back your steering will be too lite. Which suck when in rainy curvy mtn roads or in a crosswind situation. So have fun RVing and spec right.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thanks for info Jerry. A professional and experienced opinion is always appreciated!

[@AlohaJedi]

Thanks for sharing. Very useful info and good video. You earned a sub 🤙😁 When I get my hitch I’ll make a video of the install and hook up.

[@stevenfoster5737]

Great video I have an Anderson hitch which is very similar. You are spot on. Every pound counts for sure. Too many people don’t realize that that can easily exceed the GVW of their rear axle by having a full bed and a traditional fifth wheel hitch.

[@ericcorrow5468]

Good info! Just bought a short bed Ford & plan to pull a fiver....

[@nathanvanfossen1391]

I have a 2017 ram 3500 megacab srw cummins and pulling 2014 heartland sundance 33oock fifthwheel and I'm using the anderson ultimate fifthwheel hitch 24000 steel framed

[@wingsfan233]

This video was so useful, thanks

[@mtrmotorsports977]

Thanks for the video. I currently tow a travel trailer and I am looking to purchase a new pick up and I want to purchase for the future so I will be buying an F350 and have been going back-and-forth between short bed in a long bed.

[@joenissan]

I went with the Andersen hitch. A little more $$$ but it’s lighter AND stronger!

[@robbiejk9613]

Sorry to disagree, but the Andersen hitch isn't stronger and it's very questionable. Alot of marketing gimmicks behind the Andersen hitch.

[@dgsantafedave1]

I have had my Anderson Hitch for 11 years now and put about 20,000 miles on it with no problems. Easy to take out and super easy to hook up.

[@jonelliott9627]

Great info sir. I bought a 2011 open range 42ft toy hauler 5th wheel and my 2020 f350 diesel shortbed. I had no idea about a gooseball option. I kick myself every time I have to muscle the b n w slider out of the bed to load dirtbike or hay. I should've done more research...uuuggghhh..maybe I can trade my slider for a gooseball option. Looking forward to more videos sir.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thank you for the comment Jon and welcome to Loving RV LIfe!

[@r.v.havingfunadventures4914]

That FX4 has skid plates underneath it.. if you don't go off road you can take those off and gain another 50-100 lbs.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thanks for commenting K C. That is a creative idea, but I do offroad and prefer to leave original equipment on the truck.

[@bishopgeorge1333]

Well, I finally bought one of these hitches and I can get about the same degree backing up as you can, I get about 80% which I will never get that much angle. We mainly go to RV resort or go out to the Army or Airforce base because I'm a retired Army military which the spaces are a little bigger and they not as crowded backing in, I love this hitch for all of the reason you mentions.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Congratulations George Godman! I am glad I was able to provide some useful information for you! I agree with you that I have never had to cut the angle that hard when parking the RV either, but it sure is nice to know you can if you have too!

[@Redfour5]

Wait a minute.... I don't see any rails in your bed. That's a pet peeve of mine, how are you attaching that to the bed... AND, is it easy to pull out and re-install? AND, how is it connected without rails? I was already considering a Pullright set of "SuperRails" that have a sort of puck like system allowing you to remove the rails, but they are a thousand bucks... But you went right after my "concerns" regarding hitches. The Dealer shows me some Demco??? full install at over 3K and it weighs almost 300 lbs. I'm sorry, I want to use my bed, not have a behemoth of a hitch living back there taking up all the room...that I CANNOT lift even with another person's help... I can lift that thing in and out easy...by myself...

[@bishopgeorge1333]

Yeah, I just sold my B&W non-slider hitch and bought the 2600 but I have to run the number I don't know if I can get the angle that you have but if I can get at least 80% I will be happy.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

I have mounted the kingpin adapter in front and behind the kingpin. Naturally you get more cab clearance with adapter in front of the kingpin, but I like the ride better with the adapter behind the kingpin which puts it closer to the cab. Either position is acceptable though.

[@bishopgeorge1333]

@@lovingrvlife5512 okay I am going out to install mine now, I would have to take some measurements to see how much clearance I have when I set it up. I have a 2019 Jayco Eagle 321RSTS with a 2018 3500 ram so I will see, great video.

[@stephsfishing4742]

Curious, what you do to your rear truck suspension ? Airlift bags maybe?

[@herb7877]

Two questions if i may... #1. F250 diesel; do you have an issue with the pin weight and cargo in the bed being overloaded. I see some F250 have the same or less cargo capacity than my F150 gasser. #2. I've heard you can void the warranty or at least cause extra stress on the trailer frame by converting them to a Goose neck. Is this true and have you had any issues since doing this ? ... THANK YOU

[@petreskyfilms]

GREAT information ~ thanks!

[@lindamurray5503]

Great video, we're looking for a gooseneck hitch for our 36 ft alpine 5th wheel, but question, is this still on a rail? How is it set up in the truck? We have a gooseneck ball in our truck.

[@mcclungfarm7965]

I have this hitch. Mine is in a F350 dually and is a single point attachment. It basically pins down to the gooseball. You can also get one that attaches to a standard rail system. I love this thing so far. I have towed about 3000 miles with it. The reason I was watching this is I wanted to see the height adjustment. Mine has to be on the highest setting for 7 inches of bed rail clearance. Most of the videos I see they have it on the lowest setting. Also, there are some pin boxes that this hitch doesn't work with. You can find the list on their website.

[@Unconventionalreefer]

Hello, I just installed this on my 3500 ram megacab. I utilized all 3 off set points (goose ball receiver, orientation of the actual hitch/pyramid, and the orientation of the ball on the kingpin) for the max amount of clearance...are you utilizing all 3 offsets? I'm wondering if I'm transferring too much weight off the axle?

[@bi0lizard1]

Have you been pleased with your Ford? Trying to decide between a Ford 350 or a Ram 3500.

[@jackmason7518]

Good Morning. Just like to see if you are still happy with the hitch. Jack PS i will be towing a Grand Design 337RLS in a short bed truck. Jack

[@chuckpoz1968]

Hi Jake I’m running out of time to get that new fifth wheel ! All my problem I know. My Q is are attaching this to a in bed goose ball system? How are you anchored ? Please

[@jerrybichsel1855]

Thanks for the info. Questions: We just bought a 2004 Dutchmen 27RL 5th wheel, which has a more 'squared' off nose. Towing will be with 2016 Ford F250 Crew Cab, 4x4 short bed. I have scheduled to install a Pullrite ISR Super Glide 2700, but then came across this video last night and got wondering if it would work instead. I'm assuming not due to the squared off nose of our older trailer? My truck does NOT have any 5th wheel or gooseneck prep so thinking of the Pullrite CBT system. Thanks for any info.

[@denisfredette7495]

You gets what you pays for. Good luck.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thanks for commenting Denis! I am very pleased with my choice to date and look forward to more. I will definitely report any not so great experiences as well should any arise.

[@xplmr1]

If only every turn was on a pancake flat surface. Be careful if your pin box has any suspension in it. It can fool you and appear to have a nice gap until you hit the breaks and it kisses your cab.

[@hillbillytrucking8483]

I like my longbed

[@jetftrplt1]

Check out Andersen hitch. 35 lbs, will support up to 26,000#s.

[@pizzaman532]

Great review. Just bought the same hitch. BTW you must have got a really good deal on it for $500.00

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thanks! I appreciate you watching!

[@JC-li2xo]

I've been told that one thing that a gooseneck style ball requires instead of a fifth wheel pin is safety chains. I don't see any here. Otherwise a very informative video.

[@drjprice]

Not required when you locking break control connected

[@JC-li2xo]

Breakaway a separate issue and is required for trailers 3000# or more. Safety chains definitely required in most states. See www.everything-about-rving.com/are-safety-chains-required-to-tow-a-5th-wheel-trailer-in-the-us. See www.everything-about-rving.com/are-safety-chains-required-to-tow-a-5th-wheel-trailer-in-the-us.html

[@Yvesbroy]

Thanks for this video. Just ordered the 2400 version 4 points connection for $500. I have a F-150 6.5 ft bed and 28 ft GD Reflection 230 RL with rounded edges so I hope I’ll be good for close to 90 degrees turn....i heard this system not compatible with 90 degrees turning point pin box, true ?

[@killer2600]

"i heard this system not compatible with 90 degrees turning point pin box, true ?" Yes, true, not compatible

[@jeffsmith4525]

My Demco auto slide weighs just 310 lbs (ouch) but it works perfectly. Good thing the F350 has plenty of towing capacity

[@HTSS8]

Not "towing capacity", you mean payload and/or tongue weight rating.

[@roykarensanders3070]

Just watched bro, thank you.

[@carlosandrade7439]

I'd go with a Gen-Y gooseneck box and use my ball for more weight savings.

[@THETOPGLOCK]

Nice rig! But it looks like you need all the payload you can get. You’re probably over your GVW quite a bit.

[@1towmater1]

Check out the anderson hitch

[@lexusstucco]

the first scenes of your video seem to be corpus christi and your house looks like one that is in the neighborhood of moses

[@justinwaite26]

That must ride hard?..there no cushioning block or anything like a normal 5thwheel hitch has I have the curt one you showed and the top plate and jaws are housed in a big rubber.blocks inside the hitch to cushion the bucking

[@deviousrcngkrew]

Hi just saw your video you said in it that you keep your PIN in the closest setting to your cab but if you set it to the furthest you believe you will not have any issues coming into contact with your cab and you could easily do a 90 degree turn just wanted to confirm and also wanted to know what your reason is for keeping it in the closest setting I'm looking into getting a truck similar to yours and currently tow a fifth wheel thank you

[@roberthudson4440]

Back of the pin box will hit the bed rails if turned the other way, giving you LESS turning abilities

[@CBL138]

Nice video. Thanks for sharing. Do you have a plastic bed liner in your truck? If so, did you cut out the area what the hitch feet secures to the truck?

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Yes, I have a plastic Berliner the hitch sits on top of. My hitch only attaches to the gooseneck ball. It is a single point attachment hitch.

[@tommyt2854]

Thanks for sharing. Wish I woulda seen this a month ago! But besides that, what's your opinion on the Predator generator? Thanks.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

I love it! We have over 700 hours on ours so far and has been running great with regular maintenance. I just installed remote start, choke and cutoff. Check out the my video on that too!

[@tommyt2854]

@@lovingrvlife5512 thanks! I looked for your video but couldn't find it. The gen is big enough to power the ac?

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Tommy T, it will run the a single 15k but a/C with no problem. I also can run my microwave at the same time as well. I did install an inexpensive ($99) soft start kit from eBay on the A/C just to be a little easier on both a/C and generator when we went to Phoenix AZ last year.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Here is my generator remote video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJmafYhtn6ZslZo

[@tommyt2854]

@@lovingrvlife5512 thanks for your advice/vids😀😀😀

[@daytime8153]

The thing that is so interesting is that No one is mentioning the fact that his trailer has a pin wright of almost 2800 lbs. And hes driving a 250.😮

[@stephanie12416]

3250 door sticker say f250

[@davecc1000]

Thank you

[@1KDirtmod]

It amazes me how many people will trade weight reduction and a little cost for safety! I care about my family too much to gamble with lightweight coupler.

[@pyroman49wedd86]

Does it have to have safety chains since it’s not a kingpin

[@georgewebb6963]

Hello, I have the same Pullrite 2600 in my Ram 3500 short box. I like the ease of installation and hook up but not the towing. I get loud banging noise every time I stop and start pulling. The hitch slides in the free floating bottom plates and it clangs. I have the nylon spacers and retorqued many times. I have changed the ball mount from forward to back, did not help. Do any of you using this hitch have similar noise?

[@Spridle60]

Came here from IRV2

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Welcome Mike!

[@prosbach]

So, I am wondering why you would not put the hitch point in the rear position, does the shift back make that much difference in the weight on the axle or the ride dynamics? Seems like the extra room would be extra insurance against a cab strike. Also, was wondering if not having a hitch plate makes for a less stable ride, is that an issue? I am interested to see you also have a storage box. It it also a extra fuel tank? What brand is it? I am looking to buy my first 5th wheel and truck. Been towing a trailer over 20K miles for past 5 years. Ready to upgrade, decisions, decisions🤔

[@roberthudson4440]

With the extended hitch position you will hit the back of the kingpin on the bed rails in a sharp turn at around 50°- 60°, much sooner than the 80°- 85° he is getting currently.

[@trucker1375]

I have this hitch in my 2018 ram 2500 mega cab, I tow a 2013 cedar creek silverback 29RE. I think it is a good hitch other than how high you need to raise the camper up to hook or unhook. I've had issues with the bolts on the mount that attaches to the kingpin, the 2 long bolts bend after torquing. I got free replacement bolts from pullrite, replacement bolts bent as well. I installed exactly how the instructions said. It takes my confidence away from this hitch. I've also had the bolt loosen up that holds the vertical ball mount, I'm currently looking to sell my hitch and purchase a curt Q20. Anyone interested in my pullrite?

[@royharrison8590]

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[@charliebelle6693]

Take out an extended warranty on the truck. Most engine work is going to be $$$ due to the cab having to come off the truck. My son has the identical truck (2015) and paid almost 2K for a $300 DEF heater to be installed.

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Charlie, That is good advice! I did buy the Ford extended warranty because my friend had the same issue with Def Heater. I however had the Death Wobble at 38k miles, and the regular drive train warranty would not cover, but the extended warranty did. That was about $1500 worth of work. My Truck only has 45k miles now, and warranty good for 5 yrs or 150k miles.

[@TheDesertdawg1]

Did you even look at the Blue Ox Super Ride ?

[@robertsimica6719]

Does it come with safety chains?

[@markd5067]

Will this work on a 5'5" bed of a Toyota Tundra without a slider?

[@HTSS8]

It's not a "short" bed, it's Standard. The short bed is only on half ton trucks, the 5.5 bed

[@SunsetSeekers]

Nice rig!

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thank you Sunset Seekers

[@nathanwhitaker3712]

Will it work for a Toyota crewman with only a 5.5' bed ?

[@lukman8400]

Is this stronger than Andersen ultimate? This looks thin for the weight of a fifth wheel. And the addition of extra ball that can break. I saw several pics of Andersens where the ball simply snapped after light collision or hard braking. Did anyone seriously compare this adapter to andersen ultimate? Thanks.

[@alejandrotorreblanca1228]

What is the payload capacity ( per sticker on door) of your f-250 and what is the weight on your tongue on fifth wheel? just curious, looks like a big 5th wheel for that truck.

[@fremontgeneratorservice3824]

Where did you get your hitch for $500

[@daveross7436]

I’ve just started searching for a new tow vehicle so I can move up to a 5th wheel. So far the F-250 diesels I’ve seen have limited payload capacity, like in the 2200-2300 pound range. That wouldn’t leave much left for other cargo and passengers if the pin weight of the rigs I’m looking at once loaded is 1600-1750 pounds. Can I ask you the load capacity of your tow vehicle and trim level?

[@Nuffs]

For reference, 2020 Chevy 2500HD with diesel fully loaded (high country) has 3045 payload available.

[@daveross7436]

Thanks, that sure beats the Fords and Rams I’ve seen!

[@bishopgeorge1333]

Hello sir, I also want to ask that is on the draw down bolt is your nut directly under the funnel or farther out from the funnel, I'm looking for to go back farther toward my tailgate?

[@lovingrvlife5512]

George Godman, You have 2 options for moving your mounting point towards the tailgate. The funnel is away from the draw down bolt, so funnel can be in front of or behind your gooseneck ball if that is your attachment type. Naturally it is preferable to have the funnel behind the gooseneck ball in a shortbed truck. I would imagine the option is the same for the 4 point attachment version. You can also place the kingpin adapter plate with ball in front of or behind the king pin, also giving you additional options for your trailer movement towards the back. I currently have my set up with the funnel behind the gooseneck ball, and the kingpin adapter behind the kingpin so the kingpin and the trailer weight seems to be centered over the ball. I hope this answered your question and thank you for watching and commenting!

[@bishopgeorge1333]

@@lovingrvlife5512 Yes sir, I went back out to my 5th wheel yesterday to add chains to my setup, my state don't require them but in case I might go through the states that require them I will be legal. I move my draw down bolt to the position that you have yours and I was able to get another 1 1/2" out of it backward, so I'm better now if I can get about 80% -85% I will be happy, thank you for your reply it did help.

[@fmaracco]

@@bishopgeorge1333 Hi George. Like you and the OP, I also have the 2600, and I want to add safety chains. How did you attach the chains to the king pin adapter? Thanks!

[@bishopgeorge1333]

@@fmaracco the king pin adapter have two set of holes on the flanges, you can put 1/2 eye bolts but I put 5/8 eye bolts they goes there.

[@fmaracco]

That's what I thought, George. My adapter doesn't have those holes, which is interesting as I just bought the hitch. A call to Pullrite is my next move. Thanks again

[@markab71]

How are you not over weight on your truck?

[@evanbrown2385]

You can drive a coach bus style rv with no cdl. You're exempt. & I seriously doubt he grosses over 26,500

[@markab71]

@@evanbrown2385 this has NOTHING to do with a CDL. The truck isn’t tasted for over 10,000 he probably weighs 7800-8200 before the pin weight of the trailer. The fuel and gear and all that other stuff, he’s got to be overweight.

[@evanbrown2385]

@@markab71 f250s havent been rated for a 10,000lb towing capcity since the obs years (92-97). A manufacturer recommend capcity isnt a legal entity, if it's under gross 26,500 it's legal. I dont disagree its sketchy for the average person who doesnt have experience towing.

[@markab71]

@@evanbrown2385 dude you’re missing the entire theory behind towing. With the pin weight, fuel, equipment, the truck itself weighs over 10,000 pounds. Which puts it, the truck, over weight. That truck can probably TOW 14,000 pounds.

[@evanbrown2385]

@@markab71 The truck itself doesnt weight a lb over 8,000 the trailers probably pretty close to the same. Towing capacity already factors in the "truck itself" weight. So how would he be over weight? Hes got 6,000lb of supplies/ miscellaneous gear.

[@jasonmekush5280]

u pull that spare tire off that pickup and fasten it under rv ull save an addit 100 pounds

[@caseystjames32]

Can I keep my tool box in my ‘17 F250 with a B/W slider hitch

[@outlawdiesel5221]

Yes. I have 2013 f250 shortbed with a regular tool box on my bed and the b&w companion hitch is a couple inches off it.

[@robbiejk9613]

At 7:48, for me that is way too close to the Truck bed, if that was my Truck. I'd put 3 more inches. Is that your distance after moving everything you can to get the trailer back as far as possible?

[@royallen9698]

Have you ever attended any Heartland rally's.

[@HopeCreekConnemara]

I don’t care what you put on it, I would never tow a big air blocking fifth wheel with a short bed truck. The center of gravity on the truck is just wrong.

[@mikec8123]

All short beds aren't the same length. Ram is 5 inches shorter than ford.

[@Ram-re5em]

I don’t really get short beds why would anyone buy a short bed he bought a truck for work and a haul stuff but with a short bad you can’t haul stuff. I have a ram 3500 diesel crew cab long bed long bed

[@larryfoster2628]

Do you get what you pay for

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thank You for commenting Larry! I could not have asked for a better product. American made and delivers on it's promise to perform. I would buy it again without a doubt.

[@VP23]

Pay for quality

[@jameslowmanjr6141]

It’s funny most of you are like save weight. But your 5th wheels are all over 10,001 lbs GVW Dry. So without your non-CDL class A drivers license Pennsylvania DOT would shut you down. Recreation vehicle doesn’t apply when you are talking about weight classes. That’s the GVW number on that sticker. Class C or Class B is towing 10,001 < Class A 10,001 > this is how it looks like on the back of your DL Pennsylvania started checking yrs ago after so many accidents with all types of trailers have been happening. Now Ohio started 2 yrs ago that was good for me. Because as a retired truck driver I was asking to go down the road from are campgrounds to drive a friends 5th wheel RV home for him. Ohio DOT was waiting for campers going home Sunday. It was funny how most snob nose fifth wheelers were becoming my best friend now. So just putting it out there.

[@jameslowmanjr6141]

Joe DeMasters You’re funny not for hire you put that on a big truck with a fifth wheel they will definitely pull you over because they’re gonna want to see your logbooks they’re gonna want to know for a vehicle that doesn’t have a DOT number on it why are you saying you’re not for hire. Anyway to keep this short. I used to be a truck driver because of my physical card I lost my CDL in order for me to continue pulling trailers over 10,000 pounds you have to have a non-CDL class A drivers license and you can say but but but all you have to do is drive down to your local Department of transportation and ask them do I need a class A non-CDL to tow over 10,000 pounds and it doesn’t matter what you’re towing RV lowboy trailers because we’re not talking about what your pulling we’re talking about how much weight you’re pulling and that’s where the difference comes in. And there is no hotshot DOT‘s there people just like us that have a job to do that’s the keep everybody safe on the highways because people like you that don’t know what you’re talking about are the reason why there’s quite a few dead families in Pennsylvania because you have no idea what you’re doing when it comes up to towing heavy equipment.

[@robbiejk9613]

@@jameslowmanjr6141 James, I can agree with you to a degree, but not everyone who tows a 5th wheel travel trailer is a "hot shot". Yeah, there are some idiots out there who can barely drive a car and speed all the time, then start towing a 5th wheel and transfer their horrible driving habits from a 4,000 pound car to now driving a combination of around 20,000 pounds +. I am not one of them. Agreed that there are some major imbeciles out there towing these things. I've seen people towing a 5th wheel as big as mine (41' long x nearly 13 feet high) tailgating someone in the fast lane at 70+mph. I was passed by the same size rig on I-30, East of Dallas once with trailer brakes smoking and it only got worse the more miles they kept driving. Just East of Dallas, a fire started in the ass end and they FINALLY exited.

[@killer2600]

Licensing requirements vary state by state. I live in a state that has no weight restrictions for personal/non-commercial driving on a basic drivers license.

[@cisco1dog]

CDL, means commercial drivers license. Having been in the business for 40 years, I can tell you that no state requires a “cdl”, for any weights under 26,200 lbs.

[@JasonEyerly]

That only applied to PA residents. States respect the reciprocity of a DL so any non PA driver won't need that.

[@jabojr5171]

Don't use that hitch or you'll void your warranty. If you don't care, that's another story.

[@bobstewart9365]

Anderson hitch is trash !! Reese goosebox whips it in all senerios !!

[@bobstewart9365]

Ok I am changing my stance on my Reese goosebox the one I love if u have an 8 ft bed it is the best hitch on the market but I have a 2019 f350 shortenbed and I was backing the camper in the drive and just lost focus because earlier that day I was using my gooseneck dump trailer so I wasn't thinking and I turned to sharp and I heard a pop and u know that is never good and it was the camper hitting the cab and shattering the back window so the goosebox and this pull rite hitch this guy is trying to brag up don't do it get a damn slider if u don't have an 8 ft bed !!

[@Gladfulspirit]

Not a good idea. Completely changes the design intent and the way stresses are transferred between vehicles.

[@blackpepe]

if you had a real truck with the proper 6 wheels then 200lb wont matter

[@stewpidasso288]

Diet?

[@lovingrvlife5512]

LOL! Stew you are correct! That would definitely help as well! ;)

[@adamshaw8214]

Big deal 200 pounds.

[@scottlocklear6354]

I would never own a short bed for nothing

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Scott, thanks for commenting. I understand preferring longbeds, but just curious on what your experience with short bed trucks is?

[@scottlocklear6354]

@@lovingrvlife5512 for me the ride quality and for me I'm a certified diesel mechanic and I drive from north Carolina to north Dakota every 4 months and I have a 145 gallon fuel cell in the bed and all my tools but my Preference is my 7.3 I have 3 of those 2 f350 and excursion and 2 6.0 that's bulletproof and studded and I get 22 to 27 miles per gallon on each truck my off shore boat weighs 16,500 and each vehicle pulls it with easy effortlessly thanks for the come back I hope you the best with your rig

[@lovingrvlife5512]

Thank You Scott. That's good information to have.