More TV for less! - LG QNED85

[@KalijahAnderson]

For those not in the know, there is a major difference between mini-led and micro-led. Mini is what they describe here where it's basically just a high density of dimming zones. Micro-led is like Oled where each individual pixel has its own lighting. Micro-led has all the benefits of oled without the burn in problems.

[@dtemp132]

Yeah it seems like micro-LED is the end game TV: no burn in, can get extremely bright, all of the other benefits of OLED. Not sure what drawbacks will be left once microLED TVs are available.

[@waltertrey]

@@dtemp132 price haha

[@LaskaiTamas23]

@@dtemp132 QD OLED is as good and radically cheaper.

[@KalijahAnderson]

@@LaskaiTamas23 yeah, but you can still get the burn in, just not to the same degree.

[@LaskaiTamas23]

@@KalijahAnderson Same degree = almost 0% chance. If you display ESPN or CNN for 8 hrs / day for 6 months it has 100% chance. But... who does that? Who buys an OLED/QD OLED for that? And who would buy a 100k MicroLED for that? No one.

[@Diadras]

I have a QNED at home and what shocked me the most was the colors. When I got into the big city in Elden Ring the roofs were actual GOLD in color. The reds were amazing as well. Right now I am watching House of Dragons in 4K HDR and they really make use of it in that show. Stuff really pops and it is amazing to watch. Best 1.1k I have spent.

[@wombat5252]

I had the QNED85 from LG for about 3 weeks. I kept noticing the light bloom. It's a great TV but I returned it and spent extra $$ for the C2. My first ever OLED. It's ridiculous. I cannot ever go back to LCD or LED but I'll still admit that the QNED85 is a good TV and at a good price.

[@Diadras]

Yeah, If I could I would've just spent more and went for an OLED. But this TV was already outside my price range :)

[@larrymtz83]

There is a lg in costco 65 in qned at 700 should i get it?

[@kaano8108]

Bro may i ask what Settings u got? Trying to get good colors too for movies and gaming :(

[@titvitequelcriss]

@@larrymtz83 qned85uqa 65'' at 700$ imposible

[@Zzzlol94]

Having calibrated and tested many of the different sizes of the QNEDs, LG's local dimming is horrible in comparison to Samsung. This model, the baseline miniLED, has huge dimming zones which are very slow at responding to changing brightness. The QNED90 is fine, but the Samsung QN85 still beats it out handily. And the QNED90 is priced similarily to the LG OLEDs. The QNED80/82 doesn't really have local dimming, even though LG still puts it in the TV, as it is edgelit. LG does OLED well, but they are so far behind with their QNED panels.

[@mikemcmike6427]

That’s Lgs problem. You either go low end, or high end Oled. I have two oleds

[@DanielKennedyaeos]

Do the LG's all dim after 3 minutes in HDR (regardless of the brightness of the content) like my Samsung Q90R?

[@Zzzlol94]

@@DanielKennedyaeos Pretty sure every 2022 model, including Samsung, don't have that issue except some of the OLEDs. The Q90R is now 3 years old and doesn't use mini LEDs, even though it does have local dimming, so not really comparable in this situation.

[@mikemcmike6427]

@@DanielKennedyaeos there is ABL auto brightness limiter that varies model to model to protect the OLED pixels from damage.. some models are far worse and more aggressive and noticeable. it can be disabled in the manufacturer menu. it is based on the content though

[@pawala7]

For a proper implementation of miniLED, I'd probably look towards Hisense. They've actually killed it this year.

[@ap0kalyps3]

I got myself a QNED a month ago, but I'm not that happy with the HDR, the display has very rough lighting zones or what they are called, where the backlight of the TV turns on when there's a bright pixel on the screen or something and when I watch movies with aspect ratio bars it's really noticable, it's ok when the image is fullscreen, I'm also watching every movie with subtitles and they always trigger the backlight, which makes watching dark scenes really painful, fortunately most of the streaming services support subtitle styles, so I changed mine to be less transparend or grey, to not trigger the backlight so easily, still a bit of a pain in the butt for something that expensive

[@redinho1994]

The high-end Samsung Neo QLED are a bit better at dimming, by having more zones, a VA panel with better native contrast and a dimming algorithm, that doesn’t display smaller objects like subtitles at full brightness.

[@matteventu]

Unfortunately that's the issue with mini-LED TVs. I personally still believe that mini-LED, for me at least, would be a better purchase than OLED. As I'd keep the TV for at least 10 years, after that amount of time an OLED panel would be extremely badly degraded in quality, while a mini-LED (i.e. LCD panel) would have 99% the exact same quality.

[@DimMVK]

It's still an IPS display which is horrible panel for TV's.

[@sheldonpetrie3706]

Yeah is blooming. I have the same occuring on my 2019 X950G, and currently planning an OLWad upgrade. I find the blooming can be helped by installing bias lighting behind the tv.

[@johndoe9575]

Yeah Samsung is still the king of micro led but oled is still a better choice

[@gmt1]

10:26 I wish that were true. This exact TV at 55" in US costs $1100 USD, which converts to $1620 AUD, but in reality LG sells it for $2576 AUD. Even if we add Australian 10% GST and shipping fees it still costs over $400 AUD more.

[@anth5189]

If you live in Australia you should understand that the government doesn't give a sh$t about the people. They are the reason we get ripped off and the cost of living is so high.

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Thieves

[@nanashi1879]

So I just went ahead and purchased the new LG, 85 series QNED mini-led, in their 86in model. Love the television so far. Turned my panel brightness all the way down to 15 from the default 100 to get those crisp dark images, with no halo effect. Television performs flawlessly with my Xbox series X.

[@MSDOGS1976]

If I turn mine down to 15 it's unwatchable. Too dim. But I'm in a bright room so maybe that is why.

[@groto27]

Correct, most need more than one OLED. Edit: ha, he changed the title from “Not everyone needs an OLED” lol

[@user9267]

OOF

[@NicoD3000]

True. I just need my 48CX and 42C2, its like breathing air at this point

[@ashvinnihalani8821]

It would be interesting to see what is the criteria for changing the title is? Is it algo dependent or if people make too many negative comments

[@exvils]

@@ashvinnihalani8821 most youtuber do this, thanking title and picture to get more likes.. or in this case it can be feedback from someone from team

[@exvils]

@@NicoD3000 yeah i am going to get c1/c2 as monitor (as i dont watch tv) and throw out aged gw2760hs (that served me well since like 2015) but dont know how big should I go.. In old house we had 50UK6950 which was steal for 430€ atm 55c1 is really cheap tho could be too big as a monitor, or i could go for something like 42c2.. or 48c2 .. as they all are at same price range

[@matthewshields]

If you don't have anywhere to lay the TV flat use the box. Also you can use the bag that's probably around the TV to protect the screen if you lay it on the box.

[@13loodLust]

Me on my TN Panel watching this: Yes, the TV image quality is very nice.

[@clairifedverified2513]

@@user-iy9vk8tt9m Funny thing is, by that time a TV like that will be so old a compamy would be embarassed to make it lol.

[@MSDOGS1976]

I have this tv in 65" and it's been great in my bright living room. I'm not anti oled as I have a 48" one on the way for my bedroom. But for a room with a lot of natural light I decided on the qned85. No regrets and would buy again.

[@NeonVisual]

I remember about 12 years ago when TV's with huge 50" screens started to become available, not long after the biggest CRT's we could get were 32", and the age of "jumbo" tv's was the next biggest marketing gimmick. Little did they know that in 2022 people would need a truck to deliver the TV, and by 2030 the TV would come on a carpet roll designed to take up the entire load-bearing wall of your living room.

[@theElemDragon]

Like when my parents bought their first "flatscreen TV" (Not referring to the flat glassed CRT's). A 50" Samsung plasma TV that was only 720p, and probably cost something like $3,000+. And it weighed something like 96 pounds WITHOUT the stand. TV's nowadays it's like "Yeah.... I can hang it on that wall mount all by myself. No help needed" as you hoist a 65" TV halfway up the wall. That freakin thing.... You couldn't even get it off the FLOOR by yourself, let alone in any way where hanging it on a wall bracket was an option.

[@andrebrait]

It's honestly absurd, though. I only have a 55" because the 48" version of my TV is almost an entirely different animal. They nerfed it so much they made the 55" and up the only versions that make sense. My living room is barely big enough for a 48", let alone a 55" and I definitely will never go above that. I already have to turn my head sometimes.

[@shs747]

@@theElemDragon These plasmas had more accurate colours and better latency than even tvs of today (if you turn off black frame insertion features).

[@theElemDragon]

@@shs747 maybe... But I'll take a modern LCD over an energy hog plasma any day of the week. That thing was a literal space heater of waste energy.

[@moldyshishkabob]

Fahrenheit 451 parlor walls when?

[@gnunard]

I work as a tech for a big box and have been calibrating, Calman from Portrait, hundreds of TVs and I can truly say; the QNED/NANO is two of the displays that have the absolute worst results of any of the budget TVs. If you want the biggest TV no matter what sure but, if you use it for anything other than looking at your bad decisions by yourself, I would save a couple of months for a 860, q6x-q7x or, if you can, c1 (last gen and often for sale)

[@DelTalkoh]

What is an 860?

[@randallsmith2521]

The C1 IMHO is better than the C2. Yes, the C2 can get brighter, but with that brightness comes too much blue.

[@shadouxg7150]

what aobut hisense tvs?

[@Showwieh]

@@randallsmith2521 sounds like something no one would notice in a normal environment

[@randallsmith2521]

@@Showwieh it is pretty evident when there is white on the screen. To be fair, you need a good amount of white before you notice it.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

Mini-LED certainly looks interesting, I think I'll get one when it becomes affordable in 6 years.

[@shoman24v]

It's already pretty affordable now? The 75" model is $1,599 on Amazon.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

@@shoman24v It seems that we have very different definitions of "affordable."

[@shoman24v]

@@Voltaic_Fire yes, compared to an OLED of similar size, it's more affordable. Sacrifices get made the more affordable something gets.

[@vladrazym9955]

@@Voltaic_Fire lol, so true

[@MobileDecay]

I picked a 50 inch tcl for $400. with beautiful colors and black levels.

[@Neoxon619]

Makes sense, OLED in its current form is harder to justify in bright rooms. Plus the peak brightness can go higher for HDR on MiniLED.

[@LaskaiTamas23]

It is IPS which is sucks. Even 1000 dimming zones the QN90 has 6000:1 contrast ratio lol a VA with 512 zones can have 30k:1

[@ultraviolet2497]

Bright rooms also negate the effectiveness of pitch black darks in OLED

[@LaskaiTamas23]

@@ultraviolet2497 There are alternatives: VA + MiniLED or QD-OLED. IPS is garbage. For a monitor its okay.

[@disadadi8958]

@@ultraviolet2497 Why would you have such a bright room, then? I mean more often than not you can actually have control over the lighting of a room.

[@LaskaiTamas23]

@@disadadi8958 I dont get that too. If I want to watch something I do it in a fairly dark room. 500 nits for OLED is perfectly fine. My friend's Q90T can deliver 1500+ nits... makes no sense... it hurts my eyes lol

[@iswordlogici7760]

Finally, someone defends dark room mode lol. When im gaming after work at 2 am without darkmode level 2 on my C2, its like insta headache from how bright the tv gets

[@Chipsaru]

Not getting that at all, turning displays to 100% all the time, so the picture looks as it was meant to be, bright for bright scenes and dark for darks.

[@shoman24v]

There's a lot of hate in this section. I saw this hoping it was a review, but it was more of an advertisement. I actually just bought this TV in the 75" flavor a couple weeks ago. Coming from a 55" Samsung from 2012, this thing is awesome. It was $1,599 from Amazon, which is way less than any OLED in that size. This thing gets bright, blacks are good, some blooming when viewing local dimming tests depending on the size of the white going across the screen, but it's not an OLED so... I mainly went this way vs OLED because of price, no burn in potential, brightness, matte screen.

[@zureai]

Me too. Plus i wanted a 75” tv. A 77” c2 oled was almost double the price lol. This tv is most hated lol

[@shoman24v]

@@zureai Rtings has one and will be reviewing. I am hoping it does well. Also, see the link below. User does a very in depth a review and says it's quite good kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHS6hZyufK2Hb5I

[@zureai]

@@shoman24v Yeah I’ve been waiting on a rting review

[@slakr2392]

Same I had a 55” Circuit City tv now I’m on a 75” what a difference 🤩 and I got mine at Costco for a 5yr warranty

[@OfficeCubicleGaming]

I bought this exact tv for my living room for gaming with my series X and I absolutely love it

[@jipidydoo]

It's a bummer you getting the crappiest hdr available on the market

[@OfficeCubicleGaming]

@@jipidydoo I only bought it to be able to play 120fps games on a 75 inch tv without paying a ridiculous amount of money. That and it was the only one I didn’t have to wait to go pick up in my area lol

[@zureai]

@@jipidydoo lol it’s good for the price

[@leefhead1]

I REALLY miss having PIP. my use case would be to have my security cameras (that are being used as baby monitors in some cases) showing in the small screen while watching content on the big screen.

[@Ali-Sensei]

Never thought of that. That's a good way to keep an eye on the baby while watching KZbin.

[@undone14]

In my household, I have a 77c9, 77a80j and a 42c2 in my home. I love tv tech and looking closely at the g3 vs a95l. I upgraded my step sons tv from a Vizio m series to a 55qned85 today. He plays Roblox and fortnight, etc so an OLED may be overkill. I definitely was close to getting him a 55c2 but got the QNED for a great deal. This tv is definitely solid so far (at Costco it was $799.99 with a 5 year warranty and $100 streaming credit)

[@IgorEngelen1974]

bought an oled a couple of years ago because i'm into movies and series. really like it. but i agree, some ppl just need something that shows an image. Like my parents for instance. they have a Philips with ambilight but it's sitting at an 45 degree angle from the wall; freaks me out every time i see it

[@Dionyzos]

I can relate, my parents bought an OLED because they had money to spare and didn't want something cheap. They're only watching regular TV at 1080p or less and have never seen HDR in their life. The only thing they actually could benefit from is size and they could've gotten a much bigger one if they went for a good regular LED TV. You really can't teach an old dog new tricks.

[@DanKaschel]

@Bzake what TV do you have? Movies look incredible on my C1.

[@Lionsidiot]

I looked at that exact same tv in Best Buy and all I noticed was the heavy blooming around bright objects and white lettered titles going across the screen. I know in the store they use store mode (found on every LG TV) to really crank up the brightness and contrast and that definitely could have affected the blooming issue. But Next to it I saw an LG B2 OLED 65in that had zero blooming issues. I went with the OLED. This review kinda sucked. He really didn't demonstrate anything that the tv can do or will do. I hope he does something more informative later on. I suggest watching something with closed captioning on in a darkened room.

[@ZacharyMcClane]

This is a sponsored showcase, not a review. LG mini-led tvs are not good compared to Samsung's and Sony's. But at the price you pay for them, it is a no-brainer to get an OLED.

[@zimbu_]

It's sponsored, so they have marketing talking points they have to cover. Of course, there's leeway, but if LG says "don't talk about the number of dimming zones or color calibration" they can either scrap the deal and possibly LG stops giving them early access to their more interesting products or they can follow the instructions.

[@Lionsidiot]

@@ZacharyMcClane you are right about the choice to go to an OLED is a no brainer. If I was going with LED I would have went with a Samsung or Sony like you said, but even the OLED beat them out in picture quality. I'm not sure what the major difference is besides panel between the LG B2 line and C2 line, but the display was beautiful, and accommodates for gaming with the HDMI 2.1 ports.

[@gingersnaps6941]

Good job on the editing. The cuts are super snappy so information flows like butter in the microwave. Love it!

[@tambourking]

Haha! Loved that he placed it facedown on the couch. Lawdy. When I got my OLED, I called a friend over to my house to help me stand that up because of how thing it is.

[@BlueKnight87]

Not sure why you didn't comment on it, but the one thing that's annoyed me on lot of LG tvs is that the AC power cable is hardwired. Is this an Apple studio display thing where they expect you to buy a whole new tv just because you accidentally f**ked the power lead by accidentally resting the panel/one of the feet on it while moving it around? Or is it replaced with an IEC C7 cable + C8 port on the tv in other markets. I noticed this on the Sony X95K when you did that a while back as well, and it infuriates me.

[@natsukage3960]

Most LG TV I've seen in the last decade are not hard wired. It's been IEC C13 for everything before 2009. then C5/C6 till around 2015, and then C8 until now? They've hard wired the OLED series though, possibly because it uses a lot of power, and don't want potential issues. Also, repairing an AC power lead is something anyone can do. If it's messed up, you chop it up and replace it with a Leviton connector from your local hardware store. No one ever replaces the whole TV for a power connector.

[@BlueKnight87]

@@natsukage3960 hmmm... fair, but you'd think they'd just go back to C5/C13

[@danieldougan269]

Can you guys please do a video on universal remotes in the era of smart TVs? I'm actually a bit nervous about upgrading to a smart TV because I'm afraid I won't be able to make my Logitech Harmony remote work with it. And I love my Logitech Harmony, even though it's a low-end version.

[@CASyHD.]

Harmony should still work, with traditional Smart TVs and addons like FIreTV. For Magic Stuff Like LG'S or Samsungs Wii Remote Style you need to read up, but all the Button Presses in most Cases still get send via IR

[@danieldougan269]

@@CASyHD. I was thinking I would need a Harmony Hub for this purpose. I already can't use my Harmony 300 for my Roku stick. Logitech discontinued the Harmony line, which disappoints me.

[@Eli-zb2yj]

Oled get perfect black But mini led are brighter Qd-oled and micro led Is the future

[@georgejones5019]

They're researching QD with uLED.

[@matteventu]

Not to mention OLED suffers from display degradation at concerning speeds, and it always will due to the organic matrix. mini-LED are the present, micro-LED will be the future. Surely not OLED, which is okay for phones you keep 2-3 years. Surely not for TVs.

[@burnte]

I had a 19 inch tv/vcr combo in the mid 90s, a Panasonic model. The remote had a wheel that you’d roll up or down with your thumb for menus and volume. It was the greatest addition to a remote since the power button.

[@NeonVisual]

Now, remember to put the TV face down on furniture while you lean on it to read the input labels.

[@MGTEKNS]

If you click green button multiple times ( I think 4-5 times quickly) in a row it will spit out current fps/hz and these tvs usually have vrr.

[@wombat5252]

I literally had this exact TV for about 3 weeks. For the money it's great and the picture is great, but I kept noticing the light bloom. I spent a bit more and got my very first OLED, the C2 and I cannot EVER go back to LCD or mini LED. OLED is just ridiculous.

[@JCUDOS]

1:39 "As is tradition" Holy shit I just had to go watch the Canadian royal wedding again and laugh my ass off... as is tradition.

[@MaximusAlcarinque]

You're not alone, buddy.

[@bubbaj5007]

Once you go OLED. You can’t go back to lcd/led anything. The picture is just to nice to give up. Sure, A LOT of people just want a big image for as cheap as possible. But once you spoil yourself with the image of an OLED. Everything else just looks washed out or dull.

[@Rockaxldude]

Plus the image degradation during game mode kills non-oled image quality. I'd rather save a bit more and get an oled

[@awfawf4546]

Disagree. I bought an LGA2, looked like crap. Maybe it was because it was their entry model, but lots of black crushing, and highlights were not bright, and it was dim even in the dark (my two cents). But this LGQNED 85 crushed the A2 with respect to brightness, I had no light leakage or bleeding issues at all, and don't have to worry about burn in (also no DSE on my display). Colors are incredibly crisp and vibrant, the contrast is more than decent, and the panel is a 120 hz display. The C3 is obviously better than the QNED 85, but not THAT much better than the B3, A2, and QNED 85. If I had to choose between the B3, A2, and QNED 85 I might lean towards the QNED....but between the C3 and QNED 85, the C3. Just don't do the firmware update if you get the QNED 85 2022 version...LG did something to screw with the lighting apparently in their update, and the 2024 version I bought and returned was absolutely horrific. Using a firestick to avoid the situation on the 2022 display.

[@Bdot888]

I love LG but im glad i didnt cheap out and went for their C2 instead. I have a dark room so it’s plenty bright and contrast cant be beat. But If you have a super bright room I understand not going the oled route for that case

[@mgoff956]

Make sure you get what the image processor does and what the ARM SOC does correct if you're going to do TV reviews. Messed it up again, you did last time on the Sony review as well. The Alpha is the image processor it does not process the menu making it snappy. Please get this corrected for future reviews.

[@kristjanbjarni9303]

Shoutout to the editor, síðan hvenær vinnur íslendingur hjá LMG?

[@BSGSV]

I really hate that manufacturers STILL put all connectors and ports on the TV's main circuit board on the back of the TV, far away from any edge making them inaccessible when the TV is mounted on a wall. It would be better for users if ports were on a daughter board near the edge of the TV so one could connect and disconnect USB, HDMI or audio or optical inputs with ease.

[@sacleocheaterz]

Samsung used to do this with their One Connect box but for some reason shelved it, shame as it was extremely handy.

[@cody5495]

You are never supposed to lay a 75-in TV flat like that

[@SibirLupus]

I bought the 65QNED90 a few months ago on sale for $1,200 (before $300 Best Buy Rewards points). Movies on it are amazing. Cinema mode on the TV has incredible colors that are true to life, and Dolby Vision or HDR content are outstanding. It’s not OLED, but for the price it’s fantastic :).

[@wombat5252]

Yup. I tell that to people. I had the QNED85 for about 3 weeks but then returned it. Spent a bit more and got my very first OLED, the C2 at 65". I kept noticing the bloom effect. OLED is pricey but it's RIDICULOUS when it comes to contrast ratios and colors. It's just insane lol. I am NOT saying the QNED LG TV's are bad, they are definitely good for the price though and some people prefer that increased brightness.

[@JunkyVirus]

How you unpacked and lifted that TV hurt my soul.

[@matteventu]

And the here's even a huge paper sheet in the top, right as you open the TV box, telling you exactly how to unbox it. Can't really stand people that don't spend literally just 20 seconds looking at manuals 🤦‍♂️

[@TetraSky]

Samsung’s Neo QLED technology uses miniLEDs - this new technology allows for the TV to be brighter and provide a more varied, better quality colour display. The LG QNED combines miniLED with LCD - the backlight is lit using the miniLEDs, these LEDs then light the LCD combination of both quantum dots and nanocell.

[@sturdybutter]

Maybe I’m crazy, or just poor, but $1700 on a tv is absolutely crazy. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to bring myself to pay even $1000 for a tv.

[@MrQwertyzone]

You aren't crazy, just not their target market. Its basic economics lesson that you should have known

[@zureai]

Btw this is a mid end tv too lol

[@cesarvarela5438]

Idk about qned but in OLED LG is killing it

[@TheCrimsonWall]

This stuff is just slightly better NanoCell which I have and very much regret.

[@DrewMiller1]

Imaging having a home that would fit a 75 inch TV.

[@baronclime6423]

Or being able to afford one.

[@matteventu]

Lol I live in a 1-bed flat in south-east England (which per se is a measure of how tiny the flat is lmao) and I've managed to fit the 75" QNED86 there. It almost takes up a whole wall of the living room but... Who cares 😄

[@pyromethious]

He killed me when the TV was laid screen face down on something smaller than the screen itself. I've seen so many displays ruined by even the slightest pressure on the panel.

[@DonJohn87_MusicTV]

Yeah that was a total "step 1 throw away the manual moment" smh

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

and this would fall under accidental meaning your warranty wouldn't cover your idiocy

[@mrkenan1]

It's a soft surface, nothing will happen to it. I've seen thousands of tvs placed like that (with more layers of tvs on top of them), they can handle the spread out pressure pretty well.

[@LaskaiTamas23]

It is IPS which is sucks. Even with 1000 dimming zones the QN90 has a 6000:1 contrast ratio lol my Q80T with 48 dimming zones has the same. 48 = 1000? 😄😄😄 and that has just regular LED not miniLED back-lit

[@seanm8802]

Blooming.

[@Kaidox1971]

Very good video, i don't know if my english will be clear but here : I don't see the point of having an ARC connection, I have a 65 inch LG TV from 2022 and I take the Optical output that I plug into my Yamaha RX-V559 amplifier, if I plug in the ARC or e(ARC), I send the sound to the transmitter but it still the transmitter has to send the sound to the sound bar or sound system. I may have one less wire behind my TV but one more behind the amplifier. In my opinion if you have an amplifier that does Dolby Atmos, DTS X or Dolby Digital Plus in this case the e(ARC) is good for you, but for my part, my Yamaha amplifier is 18 years old and it doesn't do Atmos, only 6.1 Dolby Digital EX and DTS ES, a little upgrade soon :)e

[@deminybs]

Got the DW"F" version of the 👽 QD-OLED panel last week and it's the best thing ever 🥰

[@TetraSky]

I like how LG's OSD says "std" right in the middle. While I know it stands for something else entirely... std is not the 3 letters you want to see next to each others in English.

[@Brian_Fantastic]

Hows the backlight bleed in dark scenes? I had the QNED90 for about 2 weeks before I exchanged it for the C2. There were a few scenes in House of the Dragon where everything had a very distracting ghost around the brighter objects, and I simply couldn't deal with it. I am MUCH happier with my C2.

[@Bdot888]

Smart move fellow Brian! I also have the C2 and its one of the best purchases ive ever made!

[@titvitequelcriss]

just bought this one to remplace my nanocell85 2021 and the difference are just WOW

[@caretaker2185]

Battle Beyond the Stars (a 1980 Rodger Corman B-Movie) had a character using weapons that looked similar to that.

[@MushyPlushie]

My old MP3-player had an OLED display. It wasn't every good. It was so dim I could barely see the battery indicator when shining a light on it. But that's OK, because it only had 64MB of memory, so I was swapping tracks like every other day and that would charge the player. What I'm saying is I didn't need the OLED display so the video title is true. I'm gonna watch the video now.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

OLED has progressed significantly since your old MP3 player came out. Not all OLED panels are equal. 1st gen PS Vita has an outdated crappy OLED panel vs the Nintendo Switch OLED for example.

[@kikmi1900]

Best intro you guys have done in ages, 10/10 would lol again

[@duck_hi]

Best part of this was getting to see the Paige, Spinner, and Manny drama with enhancements!

[@Lead_Foot]

Contrast is garbage though. LG IPS LCDs need hundreds of dimming zones just to get to the contrast a VA TV gets without any dimming zones.

[@diabolicgoldfishable]

i have the 86" version and i am in LOVE.

[@app1e]

Hope I can watch this video fully without the app crashing lol

[@marshinz5696]

Thank god it’s not just me. Did you check for an update? One released on the 22nd.

[@davidj2473]

Right, what gives?

[@zackdenardis]

Hahaha same here!

[@app1e]

@@marshinz5696 yes my app has the latest version installed

[@04rquin]

Thank you for using Gears 5 as your sample. Love it :)

[@doniscoming]

I have a 55" OLED TV in bedroom, 4K 97in projector in living room and 43" VA monitor from iiyama and I love all of them! Aand what I love the most is that they all cost me as much as 65" OLED 😅

[@rustler08]

It's $1,300 or less for a 65" OLED and a good shifting 4K projector (which isn't even a real 4K projector) would set you back more than $2k by itself. So, not sure what point you're making, other than you have a mediocre projector and a small bedroom TV. Hell, I could get a 77" for $1,800 based some of the Slickdeals I see.

[@doniscoming]

@@rustler08 yeah I was comparing to a default prices of 65in OLED of course - which was 2000+ euro in here for C2 ^^ For my 55 OLED I paid 1000usd, for W2700 which true - isnt a true 4K projector but they way benq achieves 4K is really fine- it was on a great deal 800 euro. And for my iiyama prolite 43" 4K 144Hz monitor I paid 600 euros but sold my old 32" AOC 1440p for 270 euros 😉 But true You can get awesome deals on OLEDs so it's always a great option to choose as well - My friend got a 77in LG for 2000euros and its epic!

[@vladrazym9955]

Dude, you are the best! I love your sense of humor the most, just know it

[@SlugCatLife]

QNED, QD OLED, Mini LED, etc... I give up, I swear they just started making up new marketing terms to confuse people at some point.

[@JustinEmlay]

On most LG TVs you can plug in a USB ethernet dongle and get faster data. It's USB 2 so that's what? 600Mbps? Certainly better than 100Mbps and in my case even with very good WiFi throughout my home, it's much more responsive than WiFi and I'm able to play faster data rate videos from the dongle. Test with the huge array jellyfish test videos.

[@Decipher13]

USB2 is 480mbps. Still an improvement, yes.

[@JustinEmlay]

@@Decipher13 Ah yes, thanks!

[@burnte]

I appreciate the dubbed voiceovers rather than just some text.

[@penguros4945]

2:07, did James screwdriver not have a bit in it? lol

[@AlexChipman]

More TV for Less* Less meaning $1700 0.0

[@Anna_Rae]

OLED is too good. I’ll pass. I’ve never had a problem with OLED being dimmer than LCDs. It’s bright enough these days

[@disadadi8958]

Especially for me because I like dim displays. Bright ones feel like my retinas are burning. I'm running both IPS and Oled at lowest brightness setting but have to drop brightness in nvidia settings for the IPS in order to get comfortable levels.

[@wakaflockaproject]

Heck even my plasma is bright enough

[@Balomis]

OLEDs are only dim if you're used to super bright LCDs. If you haven't had an HDR TV before you'll never notice the lack of brightness! Hell, my B9 can still sear my eyes at night with the right content

[@wakaflockaproject]

@@Balomis exactly ppl are silly who wants a washed out bright picture

[@titvitequelcriss]

so its far the same price. here in quebec city, qned85 65'' 1700$ and LG EVO 65'' G3 3500$

[@FWSeba]

As much as I love short circuit and LTT, this review doesn't do this TV justice. I got the 50" one for 630€, which was quite the deal, and it is amazing. The black are really inky, given that it's not an OLED, and the colours are ridiculously rich. There is a bit of bleeding from the dimming, but only in some situations, like when the pointer is the only lit up thing on the screen, but usually not during movies. I am coming from a 10 year old TV, but I also have my LG IPS monitor, so I'm not just starstruck by mediocre modernity. Gaming at 120hz on a TV is very pleasant, though there is some ghosting BC the pixel response time isn't too high. Game mode and the general movement in games help out a lot with this though. Otherwise I can fully agree with everything that was said in this video. I was a huge fan of LG already, and this TV has just made this bond stronger.

[@Balomis]

ShortCircuit is not for in-depth reviews, it's mostly just unboxings and shorter live-commentary-as-it's-being-experienced.

[@wombat5252]

Yeah I bought the 65" QNED85 and had it for about 3 weeks. What you said is 100% on point. I made the jump and returned it to get the 65" C2. My first ever OLED and it's absolutely ridiculous. I can't ever go back to LCD or LED. The colors, the contrast ratios, the response time, the insane amount of ''dimming zones''. The QNED85 is a good TV that I still recommend but OLED is just out of this world.

[@istevens78]

I love that you had Degrassi TNG on. Ah, memories.

[@DaapDaap22]

i just got a QNED86 (2024) but again here i see no mention of VRR ghosting problem.

[@varunaX]

'2 hdmi 2.1 ports, but 1 of them is the e-arc' has to be the dumbest idea ever. pretty much a dealbreaker if you have a soundbar, as you only get 1 hdmi

[@devamjani9423]

6:56 just slap on some bias lighting at the back of the TV and your eyes'd be all good! Max brightness ftw (altho it might decrease the life of your panel? idk)

[@UCm0i6w5lBlRthCtZEoj99tg]

"random person who left it there" is code for "Stolen from work"

[@99nerka]

Color buttons are for teletext :D

[@thunderarch5951]

I'll tell you a secret, most countries still have antenna for national tv, we don't need to pay 50 different packages 100-200 bucks to do so

[@dtemp132]

I was looking at TCL 6-series 4K TVs the other day, they have 4K/120 and 4K/144 ports depending on the model, BUT the eARC ports are just the 4K/60 ports! WTF?! Why would I want to hook my receiver that supports 4K/120+ to an eARC port that only supports 4K/60?

[@Hunter-nw1om]

check the R646. it has 120hz earc ports

[@Matt-rq6wz]

Not sure laying the tv face down on the sofa edges is the smartest. The screen can easily crack or warp.

[@AarPlays]

Thank you for showing the bird

[@martinb7554]

ATSC 3.0 is coming, and already here in a lot of markets. An antenna input is more than necessary

[@MintyDude]

The Series X sitting down there, looks so menacing honestly

[@castform57]

That mention of the LAN port is one of the things I hate with TVs these days. Why does it have the port if they're only going to be 100mbps. I guess some businesses can probably use them with advertisement or something low bandwidth.

[@stealthis]

They should let you combine it with Wi-Fi on as well

[@PickemMMA]

I am glad i went with LG C1 and decided to invest in the Bose sound system, the experience is so emmersive watching movies or even listening to music

[@nc33228]

LG FTW, Samsung is RIGHT there on par

[@NewBreed2205]

Did that screwdriver bit got stuck when screwing the TV feet? I find that hilarious when talking how good that LTT SD is ....not that It matters....but it's just funny

[@quazy1328]

Can you permanently turn off the pointer, because if not I would rather not have TV than be stuck with a LG. Also why are they still using NICs from the 90s?

[@star_man]

Good review content but the wobbly handheld camera was super annoying, did you run out of tripods?

[@diablofan285]

Bought a 52" back in 2008, underestimated the size of box, luckily I only lived 10 min walk away.

[@occono3543]

The wheel button on LG remotes breaks pretty easily.

[@denvera1g1]

3:03 I cut from satellite in 2013 and have been recording over the air TV ever since making my own personal homeflix, i didnt get wired home internet until 2020 so subscriptions/high seas was not an option either.

[@MobileDecay]

Qned makes me think of Ned Flanders saying"Toodly doodly neighbors! 🤓"

[@AsherTech]

im sorry but that remote sucks compared to the earlier years of remotes...they removed the play pause buttons...just why

[@vadnegru]

Projector in my small bedroom gives 83" image. I would definitely prefer 75" TV in that kinds of situations.

[@zuzufinke4300]

what i dont get is why dont TVs come with ports in the middle pointed down like a monitor it would make cable management so much better.

[@chrisperrywv]

My son LOVES to watch Minecraft / Roblox while playing Minecraft /Roblox on the iPad. He always has the KZbin video screaming- drives me nuts.

[@hkhan1989]

No mention of OLED? Even cuts away on the WD-OLED graph...

[@EagleEye8208]

Not the manufacturer's recommended installation method for everyone. I'm crying just looking at the panel lie precariously on that sofa.

[@steaksoldier]

I've got the 65 inch version of this tv and the low latency mode and fps counter and such pops up even when yuou plug in a steam machine too. Damn good tv for 1440p 120hz gaming.

[@DarthV506]

How it's for less? Pricing? Some basic specs?

[@norfunk]

Calling optical(or TOSlink) vintage made me feel very old.

[@phobosmoon4643]

i have a big tv that i dont use because ive had bad experience buying mounts. LTT main channel has got me pondering making some 80/20 mcmaster car over-engineered special home made tv mount.

[@CASyHD.]

Im Rocking my 250$ 58" Whatever Panel TV with a 5.1 PC Speaker Setup and its all I need. It Looks good, its gets incredible Dim and it uses about 70W and the Sound is Very Nice. I Dont get why you would Say This Mini LED Quantum Dot whatever is the minimum you need and saying cause the prices gone down so much and yet it still being over a 1000$ for the smallest Variant. God Damn Have some sense.

[@12pandemon]

I love my samsung qn90a. I look at a lot of static content so OLED isn't really an option for me. GOod to see LG is still in the game with miniled Tvs, as I want another for my living room.