I want this on ALL of my keyboards now! - Epomaker Shadow-X

[@RustyBrakes]

Imagine if it was something useful like a fingerprint sensor for Windows Hello?

[@pazdikan]

Especially if more apps decide to start using keypasses, the only option now is to buy an impractical external fingerprint scanner. I'd love to see fingerprint sensors in good mechanical keyboards!

[@lorensims4846]

I'm loving that functionality on my MacBook Air. Jes sayin'…

[@swirlofsilliness]

​@@pazdikanor even support for using our android phone fingerprint scanners for Hello

[@MarcSpctr]

​@@swirlofsilliness It used to allow Samsung Phones' Fingerprint Sensor to be used for that purpose but then Microsoft changed stuff and removed the support.

[@MarcSpctr]

​@@lorensims4846 last time I checked even Windows laptops have them. MECHANICAL KEYBOARDS is the point of discussion here not LAPTOPS.

[@thebreatho]

I can't believe that knob is not for volume, that kills it for me

[@TroublesomeOwl]

yeah, that just killed the sale for me, i was about to pull the trigger

[@jan-Juta]

I imagine it's programmable

[@ChillKG]

I have th80 pro from epomaker The software lets you program it

[@PHIplaytesting]

@@jan-Juta Watch when he turns it; it looks like it clicks to about 5 different stopping points.

[@TheRogueAdventurers]

It also doesn't have media controls, I use those so much on my keyboard I don't think I could move away from that

[@KinGlamour]

I hate keyboards without the F row, I use those function alot

[@LOKO22Bach]

I don't do shit and I use them too, not all of them but I use them at least five times per boot, I don't think I would be able to replace them with macros since all of them do different things (depending on the program running)

[@profosist]

@@LOKO22Bach you just press the fn key as your pressing it

[@LOKO22Bach]

@@profosist the inconvenience adds up when you have to use other modifiers at the same time

[@profosist]

@@LOKO22Bach luckily as it turns out humans have many fingers

[@operatorlink]

​@@profosisthands not big enough to simultaneously press the fn and number keys to toggle f keys with 1 hands. I set macros on my f keys to do shit

[@jasonh4534]

Back like 10 years ago or so, there was a keyboard where every key was a small OLED… Expensive as heck though.

[@1337Atreyu]

The Optimus. Wanted that thing so bad. And I remember it from the early 2000s. Like 2004 or something.

[@jasonh4534]

@@1337Atreyu I was thinking around the 2010 time frame… But that’s the one.

[@Okusar]

The Optimus Maximus by Art. Lebedev Studio. Extremely cool, but extremely expensive and limited.

[@cybertonto72]

Always thought that by now we would have at least the F-row keys as OLED keys. I remember seeing that keyboard and thinking I don't want those keys as my WASD keys but I would love them for a macro pad

[@sadmanh0]

Razer had a laptop, and keyboard too I think, where the macro keys had OLED displays in them.

[@BenjaminWagener]

I would like to have fingerprint readers on all of my keyboards.

[@dfjab]

yeah that'd be great, doing it securely is another matter though.

[@xpodx]

​@dfjab what do you mean, your the only one with your fingerprint.

[@royk7712]

@@ImproveConditions not everyone is omniscient about encryption man

[@AndyJMacLeod]

I have Apple Magic keyboards, and I love the fingerprint sensors. No more typing in usernames, emails and passwords!

[@gakuyax]

Function and print screen keys are a must imo. Also i dont see the use of that tiny screen when i have a bigger screen called the monitor.

[@88porpoise]

Kind of disappointing that they didn't even go into its capabilities. Is it just limited to a picture.or a gif or something? In which case it is just a novelty. I could see it having a niche practical benefit if you can feed it CPU/GPU usage/temps, have it pop up email or teams notifications or things like that when you just don't want it as in your face or using up screen real estate.

[@mastrer1000]

I really don't understand why you would not fill those massive bezels with more keys

[@mexibobor]

also does the keyboard support anti ghosting or not? For such a gaming focused channel I waited until they mention it, but they didnt..

[@88porpoise]

@@mastrer1000 Presumably those bezels are there to contain something.

[@aikeduke]

Also there's a PGDN key, but no PGUP. and i hate that

[@--_DJ_--]

One thing I learned this week using a tiny borrowed laptop at work for some "programming" is that I hate tiny (less than full) keyboards. I have wondered if I could live without my numpad, the answer to that is a resounding no.

[@profosist]

just gotta get good ;)

[@igoresque]

Separate numpad is good

[@NeoAcheron]

Numpad and a damn page up key, ever tried using a terminal without those?!

[@--_DJ_--]

@@NeoAcheron Other than delete, I rarely touch those 6 keys.

[@jordanb6025]

@@--_DJ_-- how do you live as a programmer never touching home or end

[@Jj82op]

This 70% layout looks very weird, I guess it's just not common. I'm sure it does fit for a specific kind of person. Oh really reasonable price too.

[@jagdteaguer]

No one needs anything more than a 50% imo, learn layers and save time

[@lbgstzockt8493]

Just add the buttons and save even more time. Just buy a bigger desk.@@jagdteaguer

[@Nightykk]

Add a Fn button, and just get rid of 50% of the keys, let every single one have a double function. Just git gut.

[@jivewig]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@jagdteaguerexactly! Keyboards should just have one key. The input can be registered by clicking the key as many times as the ascii value of the character you’re trying to type.

[@zeciby]

@@jagdteaguer mmmm when it comes to gaming I am 100% with you there! But as someone that uses for example blender a numpad isnt really something I can not have since its used for navigation.

[@ansems3309]

I never understood this: Professional and 70%? I need the numpad. I can't work without the numpad.

[@neruwu]

That and no function keys either. Makes this completely useless imo

[@chutcentral]

​@femboy_nero Yeah, completely useless. Not like you can type with it or anything.

[@MST3.5]

I m architect with 65% keyboard. I m already used to no numpad already

[@neruwu]

@@chutcentral for me that's like looking at a car without a steering wheel saying "well you can technically still drive the car tho"

[@danielqiu7812]

Good news! Not everyone does the kind of work you do where a numpad is useful.

[@ELCrisler]

I want my Function keys for gaming. Of all the features you thing keyboards need, a silly image screen seems like one that is really not needed. Someone noted a better idea below, how about a biometric sensor.

[@OptimusPrime420s]

I still use the Logitech G19. The screen feature was amazing, though through the dropped support, today its a bit lacking. Back in the day it was amazing. You could play KZbin Videos on it or put stuff like timers or photos. It could also display CPU usage natively. Had it been further developed, today this would be the most useful tool for PCs.

[@_Doskii]

Would have been nice if you looked more at the software and what the screen can do.

[@redavatar]

Yes I have absolutely no idea what that screen is for other than being a gimmick. Can you make it display system info?

[@sunjames3276]

they dont have time for that

[@redavatar]

@@sunjames3276 Really? The screenshot AND the title are all about the LCD screen, it makes people click on it to discover what it does AND THEN THEY DON'T EVEN EXPLAIN? You can't say they have no time for that after they do all this! Also didn't they say they'd improve the depth of unboxings on ShortCircuit a while back after criticism of doing exactly this? It's getting to a point where these ShortCircuits only repeat specs you can find on a product page and little else of note.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@redavatar thats the whole theme of this channel. showing gimmicky shit that serves no real purpose

[@thor.halsli]

What features can the display show? Fans, cpu, gpus, input delay, audio latency? Managed to talk about everything but the one reason people might buy this

[@marcusthegamer348]

Gotta love keyboard nerds inventing their own ways to describe the way a switch feels, ah yes, a very creamy switch indeed Plouffe

[@TBonerism]

With outer bezels that large and a target that includes professionals, there needs to be a Function Key row at the top. move stuff down to make room for it at the top

[@zata3834]

4:30 bro really said jifs 💀

[@jGRite]

With all that chin space they could have threw the knob further up and to the right so it can have a page up button. Page up button is important, insert however.....

[@jntrcs]

A sponsored short circuit vs a non sponsored short circuit is like the difference between Gordon Ramsey vs Mary Berry judging your cooking

[@IRMacGuyver]

@4:30 you cannot upload peanut butter to a keyboard.

[@falrexion7709]

Logitech g19 had a screen and it's probably my favourite non-mechanical keyboard, though I wish they'd done a version with the extra keys on a separate pad so you could move them around/remove them

[@popuptoaster]

I have a Mountain keyboard, that has 4 little screens on the detachable number pad and one on a detachable thingy that fits on the top.

[@touma-san91]

And you can buy Mountain DisplayPad to it that has 12 more screens.

[@segmentkings]

And not a bad word about the lack of page up? I am too old for this ****. ;)

[@vincevanalphen]

4:31 It's GIFS not GIFS

[@governordog]

He pronounced it right. The creator of it named it after his favorite peanut butter jiff

[@xpertvis]

Dude has probably giant wide screen monitor on his desk, maybe two. But he definitely needs another tiny screen on all of his keyboards... No doubt about that.

[@kyjo72682]

You don't need a monitor if you already have one built into your keyboard.

[@nilsbottjer7129]

What in the world would you want a screen like that for?

[@fenice319]

I don't like having a knob which stands out that much but doesn't have that much use, especially if won't move it around. It would be nice as to change volume. The price is great tho, I was expecting it to be like 150

[@nit-Inundate]

Very useful when switching between volume>rotate>zoom>brush size>panning etc. in media creation though!

[@kyjo72682]

@@nit-Inundate You know what's even more usefull? A *PgUp* key.

[@ZumZumZarum]

With those thick bezels, they might have included the F row

[@peanutismint]

@3:58 "What is that?" It could not be more simple, Luanne. You want me to show this to the cat, and have the cat tell you what it is? 'Cause the cat's going to get it!!

[@kayonesoft]

Good ol Jraphics Interchange Format

[@JRCSalter]

Sooooo, what's the point in the screen? It just displays a picture? Not sure that's a good enough reason for it to be included. Seems like a massive gimmick to me.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Royal Kludge makes a 87% keyboard with almost identical layout, but the screen is just black and white that shows just battery percentage, macOS/windows mode, and which device to select to when you’re switching between cable/BT/2.4ghz And that keyboard has volume controls with the knob in addition to switch devices

[@user-mt4zr5kp7h]

Nice little keyboard, but I think that picture thing is stupid. It'd be nice if you could tap into, like, the CPU temperature or something and have it display on that little screen. But just uploading an image to be there statically, I think is kind of dumb. You could put a sticker on there and have the same thing.

[@duheful]

Plouffe, we need a keyboard roundup of your favorite keyboard at different price points (maybe every $100)

[@FaZekiller-qe3uf]

4:3 Don't you mean Gif?

[@FrozenFingers]

Could you make a video for really dirty environments, that are either really easy to clean while being low maintenance or that prevents food or other particulates from entering?

[@selectthedead]

I really don't understand the appeal of RGB with none shine through keycaps.

[@BlastKast]

I've been aching for another keeb video. Great vid guys.

[@thehorsefromhorsinabout]

Sacrificing PG UP for a knob is pretty questionable. pg up, pg dn, and del are essential keys for me, rather they sacked ins, end or home. otherwise not too bad.

[@c.horvath]

All of these keyboards sounds loud clicky AF, how can people bare these on the daily basis?

[@cormoran2303]

I still miss my old Logitech G15 with LCD display at the top where it's actually useful.

[@companyoflosers]

what exactly is the utility of the display other than just displaying pictures? they didnt really go over that much...

[@chaver28]

i love having a full keyboard with numpad, its so good for productivity... also he called it a JIF!!!

[@HaniiPuppy]

Why did they get rid of the page-up button? NO SCROLLING UP FOR YOU. ONLY DOWN.

[@gfcwfzkm]

Weird position for the knob, page up gone but page down still there? Useless low-pixel display instead of something useful

[@korishan]

"You can upload jifs" What about gifs?? jif = JPEG Interchange Format gif = Graphics Interchange Format

[@animemerbd2113]

4:31 'jiffs'

[@LE_SSERAFIM]

Very attractive keyboard. BUT ! No Func Keys No Volume Knob It's critical to me.

[@mechpilotace123]

Very interesting that the screen keyboard thing never caught on in the Logitech G19 days, but every new keyboard comes out with a screen on it these days. Also the G19 was one of the first Linus videos I saw back in the day.

[@Donnirononon]

I used to mod G19's by removing everything but the screen and adding physical Buttons as well as a 3d printed case. Basically a little screen with 12 macro keys. Sadly the LGS software is so godawful that I gave in and bought a Beada Panel and tbh I would never want to look back. Still have like 3 G19's in the basement and two Modded ones flying around. It is a great product but if one part of it is unuseable or damage the other one will be missed just too much. When it is seperated, you keep the display and get a new KB when you feel like it.

[@CookinBeatloaf]

Very interesting that the feature never caught on in the past, but now every keyboard in the future comes with the same feature from the past.

[@murphygg]

I've got an TH66 & I love the build quality for the price point

[@K-o-R]

They killed the PgUp key for something that could have been a side slide switch...

[@baundiesel]

Why does he say GIFs wrong? Is it a Canadian thing?

[@ezgmystic6232]

Just picked up one for 65 they are on sale for amazon prime users couldn't beat it

[@sheldonpetrie3706]

Now I can finally watch Oppenheimer in the way Nolan intended

[@conanruisi]

These switches have been made by Nkk switches for YEARS. They have a kit so you can make a full keyboard with only screen switches. This could have been done for like 10 years

[@Vending_Mecha]

If you love this, you'll love fluxkeyboard even more. Cant wait to purchase it

[@batt3ryac1d]

My keyboard has a little black and white OLED panel that is pretty much completely useless I have a little cat gif on it. I love it.

[@Elbereth_TV]

Excpmmunicate this man this instant!!! He said ”jifs”

[@gsestream]

put e-ink displays under every transparent key cap, or on top in each key cap

[@commonfolk663]

Did I just watch a video about keyboard with screen and get 0 info on what screen can do, besides static image?

[@HolybasilYT]

Nevermind about the keyboard. Did he really just call a gif for a jif?

[@lescarneiro]

@UnjustifiedRecs It's the season of jifting after all, I look forward to all my jifts at tree as well.

[@ben.harnwell]

I know the 'inventor' tries to tell us this, but it stands for Graphic Interchange Format I don't say Jraphics ... @UnjustifiedRecs

[@xnamkcor]

"For professionals". *Has no 10-key

[@handymandy7326]

That was one of the shortest review video's I have ever watched from this channel

[@Sizukun1]

I'm confused, is the little screen to have a tiny little piece of digital art on the keyboard at all times? What is it even for again?

[@TheCaniblcat]

I still want a KB with each key having a programmable LCD in it. Swap between languages or game icons on the fly without having to swap keycaps.

[@309electronics5]

It would be even nicer if the software would be opensource and run on like a rp2040 raspberry pi chip unstead of some unknown microcontroller running oem firmware. Then also a lot of programmers/devs can make awesome software for it and display complex things (and even doom or bad apple)

[@Triflixfilms]

After the $1800 desk, I was surprised that this is reasonably priced. Good for them!

[@xpodx]

😂 Right? I'd rather have a 4090 ha

[@vaodinYT]

Very nice sound for a stock keyboard. Nothing could get me off my wooting tho it's just too good for gaming

[@trbdann2]

I thought Plouffe already owned a display

[@glados_tc]

So it sounds as though there are several features of this keyboard that threaten all of mankind, but in the end are "not the end of the world".

[@yuricorrea2491]

I bought a Langtuo LT-104 for the screen and knob (the knob is programmable). I'd advise you guys to take a look at it.

[@ultraveridical]

No Page UP is a dealbreaker.

[@pocketlint82]

I've seen a couple keyboards now with, what I would call, useless knobs. The connection mode should just be a switch on the back and the knob be volume. How often are you going to be switching modes? Most people would never touch that knob after day one because it has a useless function. The screen is kinda cool but also a gimmick that doesn't do anything. Still cool it's there for that price though

[@lp67O]

No numpad. No function keys. For enthusiasts and professionals in WHAT area?

[@SlovakLegend]

if they had a full (I dont know if they do) I'd maybe look into it.... I like the sound of the switches

[@ChronoXShadow]

My only complaint is the top and bottom bezels are wasted real-estate. Could have easily just put macro keys or media control buttons there. If they ever either slim down the bezels, or add an extra row of keys/buttons(like the f row), I'd definitely buy one, even if it's $100.

[@nelsing1978]

I used to love my Logitech G19 and wanted to get something like it that is mechanical. But i have not really seen anything in a long time. I also want it to be full-size because i really want the numpad.

[@AuraMaster_7]

Why, though? I would rather have actually useful features on my keyboard, rather than a shitty little pointless low res screen in an awkward spot.

[@Uppfattat]

Yay! my comment got noticed! xD Love your videos Plouffe! Also I'd love to see a speed trial where we actually get to see how fast you can type in perfect conditions (Maybe there is something like that somewhere that I've missed)

[@tehguitarque]

What are some use cases for having a screen in the keyboard?

[@BigFatCone]

Making Ploeff (spelling?) salivate?

[@lp67O]

A new adverisment strategy for parent company is the main use case

[@squidwardo7074]

It looks "cool"

[@pies765]

Not a bad price, though I will never understand the love for smaller keyboards. I just want my space and numpad with good keyswitches

[@matthiasredler5760]

Please review this old IBM Keyboard with the 122 buttons 😅

[@burger-enjoyer]

Really nice that you can upload Jifs.

[@MindstabThrull]

Epomaker keyboard verdict - "Not the worst!" and "I don't mind it!"

[@Modelero]

Don't you love when screw aren't hidden under rubber feets

[@kevinryan2992]

Those bezels are enormous, it doesn't look any smaller than my 80%

[@capability-snob]

Now that the Art Lebedev patent has expired, screens on each key might become a thing. Haven't seen anything that will do the job, though.

[@SrenBruun]

Plouffe is killing it today: 906 grams is less than 1 kilo and 86 USD is less than 90 USD! - you are SO right 😁🤪

[@onieyoh9478]

So it's a really expensive sticker. Got it.

[@IcedForce]

I still prefer either Logitech G19 for the screen or the easier to get replacement, Logitech Arx Control which basicly turns any Android phone into Logitech screen. Combine that with AIDA64 and you have monitoring display.

[@chutcentral]

The Steel Series Apex Pro has a much better, more useful screen imo. It's a dot-matrix LCD, not a full color OLED, but honestly, what good does having a super small, low res photo on your keyboard do? The screen should be used to change keyboard settings and actuation points, and display real time hardware monitoring info. And the Apex Pro is best in class in those areas. Plus, you can play snake directly on the keyboard.

[@Sonic6293]

That's crazy that I guessed your WPM on the money. The knob not doing volume is a bummer, but that screen is neat. And the price is great.(Cheaper than my K12 Pro, but I like QMK too much)

[@--Josh--]

I'm clearly missing something here, but where is the Page Up key? I'm all for a compact layout, but I've never seen a keyboard with a Page Down but no Page Up.

[@Razor2048]

I wish they would make something more like the Logitech G510s even though it is a basic monochrome LCD, it is far more useful than that tiny color LCD display.

[@slizgi86]

Keyboard for Pro without a Numpad and Fkeys, sure....

[@Wombatzone31]

I wished Logitech made a mechanical G19s.... the screen was so useful for keeping an eye on system specs. Now using a Corsair K100, missed the system information screen so much I bought a 3.5inch system monitoring screen.

[@Johnny_Shields]

What's a Jiff?

[@DctrGizmo]

I feel like having a display on a keyboard is kind of useless.

[@MrRom92DAW]

Room for a screen but you can’t have a numpad?

[@MrVoonix]

"They sponsored the video and want me to tell you what I think about the keyboard" ah yeah.

[@Novur]

I've just realized why I dislike Plouffe as a host/reviewer; he's the type of customer that landed us in this "no headphone jacks, all displays have notches, no bezels allowed" phone caul-de-sac. Every time something is NOVEL to him, he slobbers all over it, regardless of how completely stupid or pointless it is, and before he can even come up with a use case for it he immediately says "I want this on EVERYTHING now!" He's a great guy to have around when you need someone to give a positive take on a sponsored product that everyone else in the office immediately identifies as being dumb and useless, but now that I've recognized it, I'm just not going to watch any more Plouffe videos. His face in the thumbnail tells me everything I need to know about the product AND the video: it's too expensive and/or stupid for me to consider buying, and he's going to spend 5 to 11 minutes singing its praises because he loves The New Shiny

[@sety409]

Slinging more boards with that beanie i see. well quipped for the job.