Razer finally made something I want! - Razer Viper Mini SE

[@InvadersDie]

The most impressive feature a mouse can have is not using the skates as screw covers.

[@doomslayerforever2858]

is there any cause all mine are covered

[@sagames12]

@@doomslayerforever2858 cuz you can repair it when it dies, and trust me IT WILL DIE.

[@brokeandtired]

I bought a Razor Deathadder 2....it was garbage. Clicks were inconsistent and it felt crap. I returned it.

[@mbsfaridi]

@@sagames12 He's asking if there are any gaming mice that don't have mouse feet covering the screws.

[@minutenreis]

@@mbsfaridi typically not because both mouse skates and screws want to be at the edge of the base and you'd typically not expect consumers to take it apart

[@i3looi2]

I like the steel-wheel i hope other brands implement it. The plastic ones are such gunk collectors and are impossible to thoroughly clean.

[@henkheijmen]

The metal ones just corrode though

[@spaceyycs2]

@@craigjamroz7585 yeah you get a nice scroll wheel but you’ll also be playing with a mouse the weight of 17 bricks

[@RisingRevengeance]

@@craigjamroz7585 I liked how my MX Master could handle it. If you scrolled fast the wheel would unlock but going slowly you could use regular steps. I had other problems with it but the scroll wheel is the best I've used.

[@killertruth186]

And some of them has rubber.

[@smileyguyz]

@@henkheijmen If it's 304 stainless, it should outlast everyone watching this video.

[@Only_Oliver]

If only Razer put as much effort into their products as they did for their packaging Edit: I've never actually used a Razer product before KEKW

[@riba2233]

They do

[@rokas3935]

@@riba2233 if they do, how come most of their products are pretty bad?

[@jwmcq]

They have a super-durable magnesium alloy shell, but I bet the microswitches still only last 9 months tops.

[@unpoppablebuble]

logitech cares way to much aswell, but here we are watching an unboxing

[@Sparplepluss]

@@riba2233 no they don’t the only product I’ve ever enjoyed from them is the viper ult, everything else they have is really overpriced and low quality and I hate it.

[@aubrynobicop6924]

Optimum tech did a test on the smart tracking thing and it does make the signal much more consistent although it only makes a small difference but in the end small differences are still differences

[@doomslayerforever2858]

only important for pro gamer 10-14yr olds

[@GroteGlon]

not a real world difference though.

[@GroteGlon]

@@doomslayerforever2858 not even important for them lol. no real world difference.

[@Neoxon619]

If anything, this makes me wish we could have a controller with a premium high poll rate gyroscope.

[@Dunsparce1265]

Dude, it's crazy to see you in the wild.

[@Neoxon619]

@@Dunsparce1265 I’m in LTT comments all the time, though.

[@Dunsparce1265]

@@Neoxon619 his comment section is too full for me to find anyone.

[@xcas9]

Your forgot to note that it has to be hall sensing joysticks too. Dualsense are high poll rate gyro, but they stick drift.

[@haydn6462]

Ps5 controllers can be overclocked to 1000hz polling rate on pc

[@guillaumedessureault5571]

I wouldn't worry about corrosion. the anodizing process creates a protective layer on the alloy.

[@gqqggq7127]

Have light marks rubbed into my plastic mice / keyboards, so expect anodizing probably would also come off with time. The oxidation might give it an interesting aged look though, depending if you like that

[@tiagobelo4965]

​@@gqqggq7127 well, magnesium and aluminium oxides are incredibly hard materials

[@CalaTec]

The problem is screw points. The screws can scrape off the layer and create corrosion points. Hey, but this is just speculation, I don't really know. Probably not a problem if you don't disassemble it to change switches, for example.

[@litrick5471]

​@GQQ GGQ magnesium doesn't corrode like other metals and give a patina. It creates a white powder that comes off easily and can "worm hole" aka continue to corrode deeper into the material unless dealt with instead of creating a protective coating itself like other metals might when they oxidize

[@512TheWolf512]

Anything is better than "soft-touch" plastic. Even rust. However with aluminium body, rust is not issue anyway.

[@KevinIrish]

Should have the Lab test the glass feet vs the ptfe feet.

[@5ebliminal]

Make it a short

[@chrispHD]

Didn't this guy 'meh' on a Starlight mice? Charge him $100 more dollars, make it come from Razer, make it EVEN more limited, give it to him more than a full year later with some minor generational upgrades on the sensor, and he'll gush over it.

[@PocketDrummer]

12:40 - Audio Engineer note: the Mic is clipping a ton here.

[@ac.creations]

Not for me? Maybe it's on your end

[@fieldrat9046]

I forgot that the main gamer complaint is that their mouse shell isn’t rigid and perforated enough.

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Rigidity is more of a feeling in hand/longevity of materials kind of thing. The perforation is for the weight which is a huge thing for enthusiasts which is clearly the target market. I heard on good authority that it feels almost identical to a normal viper in the hand.

[@MrTaunks]

the plastic they were using before outlasted the switches anyway so what does the shell's material matter anyway?

[@nickmcpimpson]

​@@MrTaunks it's the same reason people like leather steering wheels or stainless steel appliances; do they last longer, not necessarily, but they feel nicer and some people value a more premium feeling material on something they touch and hold all the time.

[@roundandedgeless.1218]

@@MrTaunks I get what you're saying but switches can be replaced though, which I assume you would do if that happened to a 300 dollar mouse of yours.

[@Gavinskey]

The past couple gens of the Viper and deathadder have been really good. Razer mice are actually top tier these days.

[@Carkand]

Ageee. I have a v2 pro wireless and it’s the best mouse I’ve owned yet

[@bazookatooth]

Haven't they always been? I've tried many other mice over the years, but my deathadder from ~2013 is still my favourite in terms of hand shape and component quality. Always a bit confused over the bashing razer often gets, but maybe it's because I've inadvertently skipped the last 10 years of razer mice.

[@xINSAN1TYx]

@@bazookatooththe last 10 years of razer mice die within 2-3 years.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

@@bazookatooth I think around 2014 is when the unreliable mice came out. The Mambas, the Nagas, etc. They've definitely been improving since around 2016 though.

[@Shyvorix]

@@DankMemes-xq2xm Yea 2013 to 2018 was not a good few years for Razer. Was after when their mice actually started to have some quality to them again.

[@leagy]

Amazing mouse, but Razer really missed the mark on why the Viper Mini was so popular. The price point. The shape is pretty safe but not for everyone, but at such a cheap price and just a solid overall mouse, it was very hyped and recommended widely. Unfortunately, Razer saw this as a kind of push for the best of the best in a mouse, influenced by the hypebeast Finalmouse magnesium alloy mice, and perhaps innovation by the likes of G-Wolves' many ambitious strides. They made this. Sure you can argue that the many polls taken by Razer to the community over the development caused this, but they were blindsided by buzzwords... lol anyways theyre working on a non magnesium one soon, for the average consumer.

[@Tirth-Patel]

They have announced that a normal plastic version will be released with 3995 sensor and optical switches same as their flagships like viper v2 pro and deathadder v3 pro

[@doomslayerforever2858]

just wait a year it will be $150

[@Shyvorix]

@@Tirth-Patel Yep. 2 more models coming in early summer. The Pro variant and a third probably more budget friendly variant.

[@sid6645]

Its a signature edition. Why would it be cheap?

[@nickmcpimpson]

It's called a Halo product, it creates buzz and excitement that gets people in the door, even if their budget will land them on a cheaper product down the road. Razer has a mixed bag of reputation and I think they are trying to shake the cheap "gamery" reputation.

[@Dan-Simms]

Pretty 1337 mouse indeed, 4k polling rate wireless and extra skates are pretty sweet. Edit: omg the price though!

[@TotlKaos]

It's also one of the top flipper items out there now. You can't get one anywhere unless you pay a flipper for it.

[@extremedaemon]

awesome piece - happy that i was able to place my order today! order arriving between 27th and 31st this month - cant wait for it

[@M4rio21]

$280?!? had me excited about it the whole video until you dropped that bomb.

[@peteriddqd]

its 1 of 1337 limited edition you probably wont find it so...

[@M4rio21]

@@peteriddqd makes sense. I thought it was going to be a mass produced product.

[@peteriddqd]

@@M4rio21 probably later

[@whoisthatthingwhat]

@@peteriddqd no its not

[@whoisthatthingwhat]

@@M4rio21 it is

[@stitch1007]

After many years of Logitech mice (and keyboards) I decided to give Razer a try with their Basilisk V3 mouse. Wowzers! I like it so much more than my Logitech stuff. I am probably still in the honeymoon stage of ownership but I don't think I have ever liked a mouse this much this fast before. I am considering giving one of their keyboards a try but don't have a good excuse to change out what I am using at this point.

[@simmysims9209]

It not going to last as your mouse. I did use a long time Logitech but did change for Razer what broke after a year got a new one what broke also. I did go back to Logitech.

[@fieldrat9046]

Synapse is a POS though

[@doomslayerforever2858]

@@fieldrat9046 yeah thats why i only use it for my keyboard i had the mouse side of razer

[@VexxedSR]

My Razer 8K lasted 2 months before the scroll wheel gave out. Even the Glorious Model D that I gave away still works fine after 2 years and they're famous for bad QC and construction.

[@luckymark571]

@@simmysims9209 Depends on how you use the mouse lol, i have had a viper ultimate for 2 years and still works great

[@jsommersful]

Mag alloy has been common in construction tools for years with no noticeable corrosion in the areas I touch.

[@sid6645]

Well magnesium is theoretically reactive. Maybe its reactive to specific stuff that the source the video referred to came across a lot? Idk.

[@wazeFPS]

I know this is a small critique I’d appreciate a bit more research. The bottom of the mouse is plastic not for cost savings, rather for the wireless since if it was full magnesium it can drop out connection. Same for the final mouse which has resin bottom

[@NaoKeysVT]

As cool as this mouse is, its kind of a slap in the face for people waiting for a 'normal' Viper Mini Wireless.

[@indmur]

It's coming later, dw

[@fleepity]

@@indmur this aged like milk

[@donaldfuller5058]

Magnesium is a metal that in time will evaporate on it own. And it is flammable it is what they make road flares out of. Now other metals rot away but not magnesium it goes to a gaseous state. So the metal part that craps the finish off the magnesium exposes the metal starting the evaporation. Now you can use clear finger nail polish to seal it back up and you should. And if you smoke keep it away from the mouse because that would be a really bad fire that your home fire extinguisher may not put out.

[@beap-6]

Well to be fair steel is much less volatile than iron in a typical environment. It's not pure magnesium or a powdered magnesium compound.

[@darryljack6612]

Im a simple man, i see the ball of amazing chaos that is David and i click.

[@HowToLinux]

You made i Typo in the Thumbnail. It should say "Mental"

[@SIedgeHammer83]

If there's standard size version, I would buy it at a heart beat.

[@TheTyisawesome]

I agree mini size is not for me. I get that larger is more weight, but the larger size is worth the comfort to me

[@calvintrinh4869]

Viper v2 pro, compatible with 4khz polling, no holes but 10g heavier and has a plastic body imo isnt much of a difference

[@joshiepooh]

@@calvintrinh4869 I tried a V2 Pro and didn't like how much louder the clicks are than my Model O wireless. I was willing to ignore that, but the back button also multi-clicked every time I single clicked AND the firmware update didn't give me 4K polling. I'd love to try the Viper Mini Signature, but being a limited signature edition- you can't just order one and try it out. :(

[@CaptainNomae]

@@joshiepooh you can replace the v3 optical switches with the v2 versions which I hear helps with the sound.

[@First-Last_name]

I still rock a Microsoft gaming mouse from like 2008. Best mouse I ever had.

[@playsntraffic3708]

I can verify that hubs, even good powered ones, DO make a difference with some equipment. I.e My Razer Nommos have issues (turning off randomly) when plugged into my separately powered USB extender, however they have 0 issues when plugged directly into the MOBO. Also, great video as always!

[@audiocorps2334]

I wish more mouse makers made metal/plastic/resin scroll wheels Logitech is the only one but only for very specific models. The rubber on scroll wheels feel so bad when they deteriorate.

[@DocBrewskie]

A LOT of vape mods are magnesium alloy. I quit vaping last year , started in 2015. From my experience the finishes never hold up for shit. I have a draw of mods that looks like they were in a war. Just from daily use.

[@anonsforever_cloud]

This is my kind of mouse right here. Any every day item that can be used as a weapon is my kind of product. 😂

[@Ali-rb4bo]

the gold controller would be a better bet

[@tman152]

It's a serious missed opportunity that they didn't make the box a charger. Put a battery in there, have the box charge while you use your computer, then when you turn off your computer and store your mouse in the box, the box battery transfers to your mouse battery. Then you have a reason to unbox your mouse every session, and the box has a permanent use.

[@Buzzel-NL]

I don' t really like the whole Razer stuff. But they are one of the only one's that actually makes left handed mouses of some decent quality.

[@k1nguerra]

smart tracking is actually a big pluus, raw accel is still used a lot for my friends and that helps getting rid of it.

[@albinoitj]

LTT should make a mouse training video. For example... Show us a few different games with good training parts where we could try our mouse with different configs like dpi, pulling rate, lift distance and how we should interpret the results... Because it's not only about one test, it's about doing it again and getting used to.. How much / how long should we test the configs and grip? How much is enough for us to know as much as David : I'm a 800 dpi guy.. Maybe it's a good idea.

[@NY-Vice]

I'm not going to promote another channel, but LTT is not the place you would want to go for something like this. They are extremely knowledgeable about tech, but not so much when it comes to taking your gaming to the next level with things like honing in your sensitivity/dpi, mouse grip etc.. You'd be much better off looking for some sort of KZbin guide by a pro/high level player for a game you play. David is entertaining and makes fun to watch videos, but he is not a great source for "mouse training".

[@albinoitj]

@@NY-Vice I don't need pro tips to become pro player. Just basics on how to.. Which makes them a good choice to star especially with charismatic people on their videos. Not sure if I would like to watch a 3 hour seminar of a pro gamer cussing me and my family to just: GITGUD But thanks for the reply

[@C1H6]

PSA: If you use glass mouse skates, research what type of mousepad you should buy! A cloth mousepad will get worn in and start having rough spots due to the glass skates, therefore ruining the "smoother" aspect of glass skates!

[@MCG31]

Pricey but for something many of us use for hours a day it seems worth it. Also comes with a nice stash box.

[@thunderarch5951]

You're better off with a g pro for half the price if you want to go top notch with your mouse But to be fair, with 280 bucks you literally can buy your whole peripherals and have a good experience

[@jack-bn3zh]

nah. i would like a $1000 dollar mouse if not a $2000 dollar mouse for my daily work. Since im using it everyday for many hours, i would prefer the best of the best. this 280$ dollar feels like ass to me. only 1k+ or more mouse seems worth it. until i found a perfect $1k+ mouse to daily drive with. im not settling with this trash razer product. (sarcastic)

[@MrDimitrija]

The original Viper Mini has the exact same shape, only 10gr heavier and of course, wired, BUT it's only $25...

[@NyangisKhan]

The huge fucking holes in the back is a big nope for me. Shit'd be pretty annoying in the beginning for sure. And IDK if anyone would actually get used to them. Why didn't they just go with the roccat route where they block the empty parts with a very thin layer of plastic. The marketing name for it was "bionic shell" I think.

[@scottg3192]

A razer mouse I bought came with an amazing stash tin that I still use for stashing 4 years after I sold the mouse

[@adamstrachn]

I'd pick it up if it were larger. My hands can palm very large baby heads, so I need something a little more substantial underneath my mitts.

[@nickrobinson9629]

David is one of the most engaging presenters. I'm ready for every word he's got to say.

[@hoodio]

actually the motion sync makes a visible difference, it eliminates the inconsistencies you see when flicking the mouse over the desktop

[@dosanlol]

man you have the hottest takes imaginable, first the sensor polling optimisation thing improves consistency and makes tracking better. second the plastic on the bottom is so that wireless is POSSIBLE in the first place and doesnt just randomly die. third the magnesium alloy was used in the starlight by finalmouse as well as a afew others in the past, they didnt have corrosion problems so why should this with a probably superior pain coating process? objectively the best hardware in a mouse shell today with one of the best mouse shells. im no razer shill and have 3 superlights but still...

[@dosanlol]

also the pricetag is the same price as the starlight pretty much... as its ONLY competition in the market space is priced above it and there is never stock for it give it a bit more love would you?

[@the-dbp]

Oil protects from corosion, it forms a polymer layer that binds to the metal and prevents moisture from reacting. So don't worry about your greasy hands, they will not corode the magnesium alloy.

[@keonxd8918]

Yeah its expensive at $280. Only if u can even find one for sale anymore since its a limited run mouse.

[@JordanSugarman]

I like how he keeps repeating that this is a "money is no object" product, then mentions that the plastic base is probably a cost cutting measure.

[@jomeyqmalone]

I remember for a hot minute glass mouse pads were all the rage. Using glass sliders on one of this is making my hair stand up just thinking about it 😬

[@Lamarama]

Ice mat and Steel mat baby!

[@shhhota]

Glass mousepads are more popular then ever, and also make much more sense than glass skates on cloth pads. Easier to change out ptfe skates than ruined cloth pads

[@YHK_YT]

8:19 aircrafts ships and planes ?

[@Jadiaz-ev9hm]

Looks awesome, but I prefer a very heavy mouse. I know I'm weird for it, but it is what it is.

[@MeruXYZ]

Right there with you. Feels much more accurate. I do tend to quiver ever so slightly and my super light mouse just makes it impossible to be accurate with.

[@thenonexistinghero]

It's basically their version of the Finalmouse Starlight.. except it doesn't look half as good.

[@quattroconcept4]

I managed to get one at retail price and then sold it on eBay for $800. Nice deal. Thanks Razer.

[@doomslayerforever2858]

proof or it never happened

[@Natepwnsu]

They've been making Rims out of magnesium for in excess of 10 years now. No reason the alloy shouldn't be ultra premium. Unless its plated on something else. Which i would bet it is.

[@Chrish1981]

A to c cords are still absolutely necessary, until they change all the usb ports to c which I can't see happening anytime soon especially on cheaper computers.

[@Channeldyhb]

i wish i could get a bigger mouse with a bunch of side buttons, the only mouse with enough side buttons is the naga trinity, i need buttons for accessibility

[@eagleeye7166]

Same, I've gotten used to having at least 7 thumb buttons because of the wired trinity

[@gqqggq7127]

Add me to the list. Using G604, and in my eyes it's perfect. Infinite-scroll wheel + ton of (well-placed) buttons, wireless, 1k Hz, and only needs 1 AA battery that lasts months. For me it's as close to perfection as there is. All these FPS mice can go in the bin, I have zero interest.

[@Channeldyhb]

@@eagleeye7166 yuppp

[@Channeldyhb]

@@gqqggq7127 i miss the Logitech scroll wheel lmao

[@HaddBradd]

I hope they make a normal wireless mini, much preferred with a DPI button (incredibly useful macro) and removal batteries (significantly cheaper)

[@trogdor8764]

The skeleton body may look good when it's brand new but it will trap dirt and be difficult to clean. Also unless you are in the habit of getting mad and punching your desk or throwing your mouse across the room (in which case you should be working on that instead of playing video games), I don't think durability should be much of a concern...

[@Cortanakya]

Durability is always a concern with razer products. Seriously, their stuff works decently but it's a certainty that they'll fail earlier than products made by their competitors. That's coming from somebody that uses a razer keyboard and mouse.

[@Mephora]

The holes here are probably big enough to toothbrush the inside

[@ivyr336]

Ptfe feet has to be smoother. The glass feet are probably just there as an option because they should last forever.

[@ryandewerff]

Magnesium Alloy is what most high end dslr and mirrorless camera bodies are made of today and they’re some of the most rugged things you can buy. I wouldn’t worry too much about the material’s longevity

[@Tech.Closet]

Razer philosophy 🤣

[@continentalglue]

Ok, but hear me out, instead of having 1 LED with 3 customized options for indication, just include 3 LEDS with a specific function. 1 for connection status, one for battery status and one for whatever the other status was.

[@lukasbuhler1359]

I know a lot of people disagree, but I prefer mice with some weight to them. It would be nice to see new higher end ones that aren't super light

[@mcslender2965]

I'd say your sentiment is popular among most casual gamers. Super light mice are more geared towards sweaty ttv streamers, esport athletes and competitive players. I'm only semi sweaty but having so many options that fit my tiny hands is so nice tho though

[@MrDimitrija]

The original Viper Mini has the exact same shape, only 10gr heavier and of course, wired, BUT it's only $25...

[@dhrida5518]

The smart tracking feature seems a good idea! I have a Logitech g502 and it felt a bit stuttery with cheap mouse matts I corrected it by buying a Logitech mouse matt, anyway I would prefer if it was titanium haha

[@thunderarch5951]

My razer viper mercury (which I paid 30 bucks) has it too, it can be optimized for the surface you're using, but honestly I find it useless, don't know if they did something different for this one

[@saiyaman9000]

Logitech also has some sort of surface tracking in the software not sure how well it works though

[@sid6645]

A titanium mouse? I think its too expensive to machine titanium lol

[@roundandedgeless.1218]

@@sid6645 I'm pretty sure they're talking about a titanium pad my g

[@Kradle]

* You can use the Hyper speed dongle with the Viper V2 Pro (I'm using one now). However, you have to get it either bundled or lucky enough to get one in stock. One thing about 4khz polling rate...you can kiss your battery life goodbye...

[@Erdie5]

Mice started out lightweight, then we literally started adding weights, now we're back to wanting lightweight, but even lighter. Reminds me of cellphones. In the beginning, big was bad. Then we got the Razr, the LG Chocolate, hooo doggy! Then they decided bigger was better and now we have giant bricks we all carry around, some fold in half because even that isn't big enough. Apparently. Tech preferences are kinda funny over time.

[@RafalBorowski]

0:11 Is there any product that Razer came up with, without that philosophy?

[@mokahless]

Review is lacking a lot of important information and testing: -Repairability: How is it to take apart and put back together? -Switches: What kind? If not optical, what brand/model? Are they hot swappable? -Scroll wheel: How's it feel? Optical or mechanical? What encoder? -Are the profiles stored in on-board memory on the device, or just stored in their windows crapware? The entire market has solved wireless responsiveness and reliability and have more than ample polling rates, yet it's all they scream about in their marketing still. Meanwhile, most mousewheel encoders become unusable after 2 years of daily use, and a lot of mouse switches develop issues over that time (especially logitech, who are rumoured to overvolt them to make them wear out faster. see "logitech doubleclick"). I really REALLY hope you guys start doing real testing when "the lab" is ready but honestly, a lot of this could have been tested or looked at during the shoot.

[@valiukasd]

This is not a review mate, it`s just an unboxing and first impressions, they just happen to add some specs every now and then.

[@CheradenZakalwe]

its an unboxing and first impressions. Thats what this channel is.

[@MauroTamm]

It's a razer - what repairability do you think it has? They build devices to last until the end of the warranty.

[@brurpo]

Well, pro cameras are made of magnesium aloy, right? Some are even waterproof, I dont think its an issue.

[@UnluckyJellyfish]

Love seeing David excited about stuff. Must underrated LTT members.

[@United_Kangaroo1992]

He doesn't want to use a hub because of a very small chance of error. But then uses a wireless mouse?

[@Carkand]

Yeah they are pretty reliable these days

[@9PlatinumGamer9]

I'd not trust even Razer's "premium" products to be good. I have their 200$ Basilisk Ultimate, and the scroll wheel is so bad. Because of their adjustable resistance gimmick, the scroll wheel is super loose, and it double scrolls, skips steps, and the steps are uneven. And the software is so bad compared to even my 6 year old Roccat Kone EMP. It can't even swap profiles automatically, like Roccat has been able to for years and years. I've had 3 Razer products, and they've all had some problems that products at that price point shouldn't have.

[@samgerers]

Cameras like the Nikon Z6 is made of magnesium alloy, which feels very good. However where the hand usually touches the camera it's covered with rubber.

[@christoingram]

David is a great presenter, he’s lots of fun on this side of the camera

[@HedgehogY2K]

I just did a bunch of research and realized that not only is finding a bluetooth 2.1 EDR mouse next to impossible, it's also impractical when you can instead buy a 2.4GHz mouse with USB. I've got the USB ports to make it work. 2.4GHz headphones and mouse using dedicated USBs and the 3rd one for charging while expresscard slot gets USB 3.0 device, which really does help as I'm receiving speeds of 110-150MB/s for my 1.81TB and 3.63TB Sandisk Extreme V1 and V2 SSDs, very serviceable for a laptop that only came with USB 2.0+eSATA (useless extension of a USB port).

[@NY-Vice]

The top end Razer gaming mice have been excellent for the last few years at minimum so I am not sure why this host seemed so apprehensive at the beginning about a new high end Razer mouse. He also mentions Magnesium Alloy being used & how he doesn't know how it would stand up over long periods of use but fails to mention that Razer took this design idea from the Finalmouse Starlight, as well as a few other things. The Viper Mini SE was released as a direct competitor to the Finalmouse Starlight, as can be seen just by viewing the two mice or comparing specifications, so I think some comparisons (or even acknowledging the Finalmouse that inspired the Viper Mini SE) would have been useful. Sometimes LTT channels hit the nail right on the head when they have people like Anthony host a video about retro game consoles or Linux, but why is this host reviewing high end gaming mice when he seems to have little knowledge about it? I'm sure he is knowledgeable on other topics, it seems like he was put in a bad spot here. This is a top end enthusiast product meant to compete with an existing enthusiast level product, I would have liked to have seen a enthusiast review it like we do for so many other types of products on LTT channels.

[@riba2233]

Because David is actually clueless about mice, plain and simple. Idk why they let him do this...

[@mokahless]

You think? Well, I sure hope that's the case because this review lacked a lot of important information about the mouse, that definitely could have fit into the video without even lengthening it. Is the profile on-board or stuck in windows? What switches does it use? How's the scroll wheel? etc.

[@NY-Vice]

​@@narwhal4304I looked up some of his previous mouse reviews which only made me more confused. In this review he says " I don't know if there is that many devices that are magnesium alloy that come into contact with disgusting oily hands, it remains to be seen if finger grease will mess this bad boy up " Despite the fact that almost exactly 1 year ago he reviewed the Finalmouse Starlight 12 which is made out of the same material.... Did he forget that he has already used a mouse made out of this stuff?

[@andljoy]

Never understood why your mouse must be so lightweight. A bit of weight lets you be more accurate. Just get used to higher DPI settings and you dont need to have its to light as you dont have to move it so much.

[@Bearnos]

More weight=less accurate

[@whoisthatthingwhat]

Less weight = easier to move, stop, start, etc. high sens = less accurate. iron rank opinion ^

[@haggarduser]

David is such a great host :)

[@lobau_]

it's 2023, the packaging should be a recycled brown cardboard box. Come on LTT Group. It's time to call those things out.

[@colt45lmer]

razer seems to be picking up their quality. i picked up their optical low profile keyboard. Its super amazing compared to the low profile from logi. Still gonna be rough to get away from this logi mouse tough with the charging mat i literally never have to plug this mouse in and its amazing. Almost thinking that mouse would be sick for shooters and have the regular one for everything else

[@doomslayerforever2858]

i have the razer huntsman tournament but use a xtrfy mouse

[@Len_M.]

I don't get the obsession with being light when we just went through a phase a while ago of putting weights in the Mice.

[@mcslender2965]

Less strain on your hands, faster movement for low sens/dpi fps players who likes to flick aim. This trend is set mostly by high level fps streamers and eSports athletes

[@ians7184]

An expensive product from Razer? What's new?

[@thesmiffable]

Did they put in a scroll wheel that actually works? Because hopefully they fixed it if money doesn't matter, since the £65 quid I paid or mine isn't enough for it to be functional

[@kod-s]

Knowing Razer quality as of late, the mouse has a lifespan of 367 days.

[@NY-Vice]

In this review he says " I don't know if there is that many devices that are magnesium alloy that come into contact with disgusting oily hands, it remains to be seen if finger grease will mess this bad boy up " Despite the fact that almost exactly 1 year ago he reviewed the Finalmouse Starlight 12 which is made out of the same material.... Did he forget that he has already used a mouse made out of this stuff? Or did the writers forget? Or both? I'm confused how this slipped through the cracks, considering this Razer mouse was made as a direct competitor to the Finalmouse 12 series.

[@TravisRayLive]

Fun watching reviews for products that none of us can buy.

[@Florianski]

Any info on when this thing will be available to buy?

[@thorlordofthunder2677]

there is fake leather, and leather. No such thing as vegan leather😂

[@veneratedmortal4369]

I have always liked razer tracking and mouse shape. They are larger mice and I much prefer the tracking to Logitech. The razer cords are waaay better as well, you don't even notice the razer cord where as other mice the cord feels like an anchor. And the scates feel smoother.

[@Johndoe-176]

Funny that people talk shit about razer but I have never had a bad or faulty product from them and they are really all I bother to buy after getting less for more from other places.

[@hurley2609]

4:50, most of the Sony mirrorless cameras use a magnesium alloy body

[@onimashou8705]

Anyone remember the Magnesium phone the Essential PH1? Overpriced junk, I'm patiently waiting for Logitechs G division to respond.

[@Akkbar21]

If the price wasn’t stupid high, I’d at least check out a Deathadder shaped one of these.

[@berrigan5121]

For this price you might as well buy Zaunkoenig M2K. It's 23g, carbon fiber and 8000hz polling rate. The grip may not be for everyone but it's the best you can buy currently.

[@CobaltLobster]

Can we call it Pleather again? “Vegan Leather” is an oil executives word for fancy plastic.

[@dsimms6]

now if they included a wireless charging mouse pad with that, I'd be sold! I have the Logitech Pro with wireless charging and never have to plug it in and it's probably the best thing ever.

[@st33ldi9ital]

bet the switches in it still only last a year at most and bet it still doesn't have any debounce circuitry... lol...

[@melvinanndy]

If wer comparing at price point, the naga V2 pro is cheaper and has more functionality with only a slight drop in sensitivity but you get way more customisation. Granted its probably twice as heavy

[@Hellspooned2]

I want a premium version of the G903. All the button customizability and support for powerplay.

[@HerbaMachina]

the G903 already does that... ?

[@Hellspooned2]

@@HerbaMachina yeees? I want a premium version of it that keeps doing that

[@Thefess]

I still use my logitech g400s mouse that I've had for 8 years now and it still holds up to this day. It's been though it's paces being slammed, thrown, dirty ect. I've never felt the need to upgrade from it as it's perfect for me.

[@davidabner8885]

$280, ouch, I wouldn't have watched this video if I knew that from the get go

[@fliggopolis]

Optimum tech has a cool video on motion sync and it does make a difference at least on paper

[@RyTrapp0]

@4:20(smokem) - It's not "honeycomb", it's SKELETONIZED. I don't know why the PC tech industry has such an issue with calling things the wrong thing just because someone started it that way - "open loop" and "closed loop" water cooling for examaple, they're ALL closed loop by any other definition of "open/closed loop"; closed loop means that you have a fixed fluid that you recirculate, open loop means you AREN'T recirculating a fixed fluid, that you're intaking and exhausting an 'outside' fluid, like how open loop cooling system boats scoop up river/lake/sea water, circulate it, then spit it back out, instead of having a self contained cooling system(there are closed loop cooling boats too). But, yea, that's gotta change, can cause some 'misunderstandings' if someone isn't just balls deep into custom PCs. Anyway, that industry annoyance aside... props to Razor for going for a "price no object" mouse(and not just a "it's really limited production and hand made; but otherwise it's a standard mouse), that's honestly kinda been something that's missing. Feature set is lacking some, and only a 3 year warranty is legit BS for $280(how about 5 years guys? $280 is a LOT of money, it better last me a number of years...); but, aside from that, it looks like an awesome first attempt. Frankly, I'd like to see an accompanying keyboard too, you have your expensive custom keyboards of course but lets see the major brands offer a $350-$400 keyboard with some crazy features that only they have the resources to pull off. Hopefully we get a more budget oriented version of this mouse with like a stamped aluminum chassis instead of this expensive magnesium piece(as bitchin as it is), get some good ol 'trickle down' development lol(even though we're supposed to pretend like that doesn't happen cuz dumb political nonsense... lol).

[@Teh-Penguin]

All my cameras are from magnesium alloy and the only wear on them after years of usage are scratches.

[@JobinJacob94]

13 minutes video for a mouse unboxing and first impressions is crazy. Respect our valuable time.

[@AaronShenghao]

13:34 Razer HQ burst into celebration like NASA just landed first man on the moon.

[@c.sec73]

I have one. I recommend it to all small/medium hands users. It's a perfect mouse. The QC could be better though. I had to RMA mine and now I'm awaiting for the replacement - scroll started wobbling side to side, giving tick sound. It was really annoying.